Proof You Don't Need The Homing Attack In A 3D Sonic Game

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  • Опубліковано 28 лют 2024
  • This really isn't all that hard to do once you get accustomed to SRB2's physics... that and enabling orbital looking... also this was played on controller FYI.
    Do not think too much about what the UA-cam title for this video was a few hours ago, it was all just a dream. :)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 122

  • @ianrennebohm8294
    @ianrennebohm8294 3 місяці тому +48

    The music is Rolling Down The Street, In My Katamari by FearOfDark, if anyone wants to know

    • @DTX0217
      @DTX0217 3 місяці тому +1

      I *thought* it sounded like FoD. Admittedly, this is one of the Motorway tracks I listen to the least, so that's why I didn't remember it with any certitude. (The tracks I most often listen to being Motorway, Funknitium-99, Surfing On A Sine Wave, Polaris, and An Age Of Planetary Pride.) It's hardly a weak contribution to the album, it's just not one of my top 5.

    • @maxrichards5925
      @maxrichards5925 3 місяці тому +1

      Great song

    • @wcofficial524
      @wcofficial524 3 місяці тому +2

      Finally I k ow song of this level

  • @MariusUrucu
    @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +27

    For the people saying I am lying and I DID use the homing attack... no I didn't lol... and anyone saying otherwise has never played Sonic Robo Blast 2.
    I only used the thunder shield monitor for the bounce and never used its homing properties (indicated by the reticle as well as the shield having its own sfx) and the air dash (or thok) does not home in on anything.

    • @Freefiredownload-vn8kf
      @Freefiredownload-vn8kf Місяць тому +1

      your skill are great

    • @sants4560
      @sants4560 Місяць тому +1

      Only skill, and now I'm gonna play the level just like you
      Edit: but what settings do you have in terms of camera. I like how it looks in the video but I can't seem to be headset on the settings

  • @ScrapsandSlaps
    @ScrapsandSlaps 3 місяці тому +33

    “Even without wings I can still fly!”

  • @bennascar2856
    @bennascar2856 3 місяці тому +22

    SRB2 is insane to me because it may be one of, if not the only 3D Sonic I've seen where you can effectively and consistently do things like badnik bounces --- without any need for auto aiming or homing attacks. The fact they've been able to pull that off is something that has always stunned me and still does to this day.

    • @crustykeycap5670
      @crustykeycap5670 3 місяці тому +1

      You can jump on goombas in any 3d Mario game. Jumping in to goombas is easier.

    • @immenseshoutmon
      @immenseshoutmon 3 місяці тому +2

      @@crustykeycap5670 did you not read the specification

    • @pauloraposo8674
      @pauloraposo8674 7 днів тому

      ​@@crustykeycap5670Mario games are not speed platformers like Sonic games

    • @crustykeycap5670
      @crustykeycap5670 7 днів тому

      @@pauloraposo8674 why does that matter?

    • @pauloraposo8674
      @pauloraposo8674 6 днів тому

      @@crustykeycap5670 It means it's easier to miss a jump if you're going fast

  • @Pariah6950
    @Pariah6950 3 місяці тому +35

    This would be a good video to show someone any time they say that the homing attack is necessary for a 3D Sonic game to be playable.

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +11

      I think I might just change the UA-cam title thanks to your comment.
      Speaking of which, I didn't expect you to comment on this shitpost. Love your videos!

    • @ianproductions5540
      @ianproductions5540 3 місяці тому +2

      For most people it IS necessary, not everyone is a God at controlling sonic in a 3d space, especially with srb2's slippery physics

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +10

      @@ianproductions5540 At least reduce the homing range to be like it was in Sonic Adventure. I swear, the homing attack in recent Sonic games has so much range it trivializes platforming and dispatching enemies.

    • @chaozsheep
      @chaozsheep 3 місяці тому +7

      It is necessary if the physics and controls aren't as refined as SRB2's.

    • @reggiereg2064
      @reggiereg2064 2 місяці тому

      Yeah but this kind of reminds of the carefulness in platforming of an old school tomb raider. Not for everybody.

  • @God-xd1wr
    @God-xd1wr 3 місяці тому +13

    SRB2 showed me the magic of midair control and I’ve never recovered since

  • @beegsoder
    @beegsoder 3 місяці тому +35

    srb2 is nut worthy

  • @MariusUrucu
    @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +36

    Quality UA-cam C O N T E N T

  • @anthonyramirez724
    @anthonyramirez724 3 місяці тому +24

    I clicked for the title because W H A T

  • @TheKingOfLordM
    @TheKingOfLordM 3 місяці тому +12

    That title sure is something.
    Aside from that this level's amazing and I love this game too

  • @fisherdotogg
    @fisherdotogg 3 місяці тому +18

    Ah, yes. Badnik bouncing

  • @CaptainF123
    @CaptainF123 3 місяці тому +4

    A homing attack that carries your forward momentum would be peak but I still prefer having it imo.

  • @MacUser2-il2cx
    @MacUser2-il2cx 3 місяці тому +5

    That music reminds me of listening to chiptune compilations back in the mid 2000s here on UA-cam.

  • @TarregorsSrb2Channel
    @TarregorsSrb2Channel 3 місяці тому +2

    this was my favorite level in this level pack; you can just bounce over most of the level, which I did

  • @DarkfoX9001
    @DarkfoX9001 3 місяці тому +4

    I don't know, its possible but for new players its a lot more challenging. I think the ideal solution is to have the homing attack as an option but to make routes and shortcuts that account for both. Definitely a lot of fun when you get it rolling smoothly

    • @sputnikmann6541
      @sputnikmann6541 2 місяці тому

      You should also make the non-HA routes shorter if you master them to give inventive.
      Because why would anyone bother mastering the hard method if the easy one is more efficient?

  • @AuroraBorealis2006
    @AuroraBorealis2006 3 місяці тому +3

    SRB2 is the closest thing to a 3d classic sonic game. It has the same design philosophy as sonic 3 & k, but put into 3d. I remember a long time ago when people thought all 3D Sonic was trash, they'd say stuff like the fact you need a homing attack, or that the level size required would be too large to reasonably do for a sonic game. And yet here's a fan game doing just that, and it's not even finished yet, they're set to revamp the physics to be even more accurate to the genesis games, with it'll even allow for loops and the such to be implemented. Sure it's taking a while, but there's no way a competent team of devs with the budget that sonic has couldn't do this.

  • @OhKayEl
    @OhKayEl 2 місяці тому +9

    This title is giving me brain aneurysm.

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  2 місяці тому +3

      The truth is painful to accept for dedicated deniers

    • @OhKayEl
      @OhKayEl 2 місяці тому

      @@MariusUrucu Don't flatter yourself.

  • @gorofujita5767
    @gorofujita5767 Місяць тому +2

    This only works in 3D and without homing attack if the enemies have some “gigantism” applied to them
    The case in point in this video is noticing how the enemies are twice the size of sonic - something only noticeable once you come close to them

    • @possumorb3770
      @possumorb3770 10 днів тому

      Badnik Bouncing has always been a thing, what are you on about?

    • @CiromBreeze
      @CiromBreeze 2 дні тому

      Eh? Crawlas are only slightly larger than Sonic. Heck, most enemies in The Mega Drive Sonic games are larger than Crawlas are here.

  • @souptaels
    @souptaels 3 місяці тому +6

    The only thing wrong with this level is that I wish there was more of it. Not even gonna lie, I'd say it's the only level worth checking out out of everything in the level pack. It's nothing groundbreaking, sure, but the color palette, music, and just overall presentation really makes this level stand out. The level just ends too quickly for me, unless you wanna pad out the time by watching the terribly long intro.

    • @nuclearkitten6421
      @nuclearkitten6421 3 місяці тому

      dude wdym this is like the worst level in the pack

    • @blackgustavogaming
      @blackgustavogaming 3 місяці тому

      @@nuclearkitten6421 metallic city is way worse

    • @Zerosaber91
      @Zerosaber91 3 місяці тому

      ​@@nuclearkitten6421Blooming Brushes wants to meet you.

  • @kirbythepinkguy
    @kirbythepinkguy 3 місяці тому +2

    Well its true but for some people this level would be hell without a homing attack

  • @megasoniczxx
    @megasoniczxx 3 місяці тому +4

    Man I wish the main games still let you badnik bounce and it actually rewarded you for not just relying on a homing attack.

    • @possibly_ben
      @possibly_ben 3 місяці тому

      the older boost games kinda did this, especially gens sky sanctuary and crisis city, since a homing attack would take away your momentum after landing it, while with a badnik bounce, you kept your momentum afterwards

  • @AcBlu1
    @AcBlu1 3 місяці тому +2

    that is some brazy airtime at the start lol i didnt know that was possible

  • @emmanuelmondesir8677
    @emmanuelmondesir8677 2 місяці тому

    Maintaining the “SRB2 is the best 3D Sonic game” agenda is our top priority.

  • @audiocity1979
    @audiocity1979 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey, adventure sonic got a new update. Its okay, you don't need to be in a **RUSH**
    I'll see myself out

  • @TDB110
    @TDB110 3 місяці тому +1

    Alternative Title: Showing My Skills On a 3D Sonic Game

  • @trickybuthappy
    @trickybuthappy Місяць тому

    For anybody thats wondering, no he didnt use a homing attack, a homing attack locks onto the enemy and thoks/dashes towards them, in this case he used the thok not s homing attack, you havent played a sonic game if u dont know whats the diffrence between a thok and homing attsck

  • @TheFloodFourm
    @TheFloodFourm 3 місяці тому

    I need to replay this game again. Love doing a no thoks given run. You were the one to introduce me to it and I will forever be grateful for that.

  • @KaGenesisDrive
    @KaGenesisDrive 3 місяці тому +2

    Totally agreed with the T I T L E, it's very satisfying

  • @CiromBreeze
    @CiromBreeze 2 дні тому

    Honestly, the more impressive thing here is that you're doing this with Analogue/"Modern" controls. Though, it looks like you have the automatic camera turning turned off, which definitely helps a lot with precision.

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  2 дні тому

      Honestly, analogue stick is probably better for movement, since you can fine tune certain jumps.
      Also, I've been playing a lot of FPS games on controller lately (mainly using Dualshock 4 and 5 with Gyro aiming) and it's honestly really comfortable.
      Not as competitive as mouse/kb, but close enough and a lot more smoother looking during recordings.

  • @blackopskoopa6404
    @blackopskoopa6404 3 місяці тому +2

    Seems like your playing a casual game of floor is lava

  • @S.omeone618
    @S.omeone618 Місяць тому

    This is exactly what Pariah wants

  • @ace5451
    @ace5451 3 місяці тому

    With the way you played, i thought the floor was lava.

  • @staticplays1871
    @staticplays1871 2 місяці тому

    I mean. It can just be a setting toggle.

  • @Kosta991
    @Kosta991 3 місяці тому +1

    I still remember when you had a friday night funking phase on your channel lmao

  • @darkkirby714
    @darkkirby714 Місяць тому

    you ARE the homing attack

  • @TsukiZer0
    @TsukiZer0 Місяць тому

    It's not that you don't need, it's that the convenience of Homing Attacks helps avoid depth perplexion when dealing with enemies in a 3D space.
    Also it's the basic "Just because you can, doesn't mean everyone should", like the Aim Assist debacle in FPS games: Just because you can aim accurately with a mouse, or with a controller if you are more seasoned player, doesn't mean that Aim Assist should be disregarded, it should still be there to help up to the Advanced playerbase (Experts don't need it, of course)
    And lastly: Sonic Robo Blast 2 made the fatal mistake of using Classic Sonic Momentum, which is REALLY jank and unreliable in 3D space.

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  Місяць тому

      I made the title mostly in jest. I just wanted to show off.
      But I do enjoy SRB2 a lot and I think it's the most satisfying Sonic game to control once you master it.

  • @31emanual
    @31emanual 3 місяці тому

    Just widen the enemies, enlarge some hitboxes, and throw in an insta-shield. Do that and even someone's grandma could get some badnick bouncin' in

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, but making it too easy wouldn't make it satisfying.
      It wasn't easy in classic Sonic, it shouldn't be essy here either. Granted it shouldn't be hard as nails either, just you having good control of Sonic.

  • @adreeeandanothere510
    @adreeeandanothere510 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro you gotta play the max control pack it’s great trust me

  • @kixfantasma
    @kixfantasma 3 місяці тому

    People are commenting about an earlier title for this video
    What did you do ?

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому

      Something about Nutella...

  • @chris1229sonic
    @chris1229sonic 3 місяці тому

    Alright then beat crazy gadget no homing attack

  • @RetroRuby1820
    @RetroRuby1820 3 місяці тому

    Yes.. do bounce instead of using homing attack

  • @crongo4284
    @crongo4284 3 місяці тому

    have u played sonic storm
    cool fangame

  • @futureson122
    @futureson122 3 місяці тому

    Its very weird why the developers really tried to remove this ability even tho its perfection to the sonic gameplay

    • @tjlnintendo
      @tjlnintendo 3 місяці тому

      They tried to remove it? The SRB2 devs?

    • @Zerosaber91
      @Zerosaber91 3 місяці тому

      ​@@tjlnintendoThey were gonna replace thok with a new ability in 2.3, but eventually it got scrapped.

  • @FinalHopeTrio
    @FinalHopeTrio 3 місяці тому

    Imagine doing this without models...

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому

      It's still doable... a bit more annoying but doable

  • @MacUser2-il2cx
    @MacUser2-il2cx 3 місяці тому +1

    This is basically Sonic but the floor is lava! :D

  • @niffuM4205
    @niffuM4205 3 місяці тому

    how u gonna say we dont need homing attack when you already used a homing attack in the first 20 seconds

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +1

      There wasn't any homing attack... the thok (air dash) does not home in...

    • @FinalHopeTrio
      @FinalHopeTrio 3 місяці тому

      @@MariusUrucu Anyone with a brain will know that.

  • @chaoscommentz4582
    @chaoscommentz4582 3 місяці тому

    if theres no charater that is just Spindash & jump on srb2, i'll make one. even call it Blandy.

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому

      There is a Sonic 3 style mod for SRB2 that gives you only jump and Spindash (and insta-shield)

    • @FinalHopeTrio
      @FinalHopeTrio 3 місяці тому

      And if not just a style, there is also the S3 Sonic mod that puts S3 Sonic with the same controls as S3&K (You even need to spam the jump button while holding down spin to charge a spindash, otherwise Sonic will only crouch).

  • @MitchConner622
    @MitchConner622 23 дні тому

    *SONIC UTOPIA ( Super Mario 64 )*

  • @tjlnintendo
    @tjlnintendo 3 місяці тому

    Would be interesting to see more 3D sonic fan games not utilize the homing attack.

  • @KLUCZESIA
    @KLUCZESIA 3 місяці тому +2

    Dude no!

  • @wcofficial524
    @wcofficial524 3 місяці тому

    0:20

    • @Zerosaber91
      @Zerosaber91 2 місяці тому

      That isn't homing attack, that's thok.

    • @wcofficial524
      @wcofficial524 2 місяці тому

      @@Zerosaber91 that's the same thing

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  2 місяці тому

      ​​@@wcofficial524Thok doesn't home in. It's just an air dash that you have to manually aim with no homing properties.

  • @IAmCymepka
    @IAmCymepka Місяць тому +1

    0:20 That's cheating

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  Місяць тому

      That's not a homing attack, just a regular non-homing dash

    • @IAmCymepka
      @IAmCymepka Місяць тому

      @@MariusUrucu that literally was a homing ability

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  Місяць тому

      @@IAmCymepka No, it wasn't. Play the game yourself if you don't believe me.
      SRB2 has a thok aka a dash (think Sonic Adventure air dash when not homing), that you MANUALLY have to aim and doesn't home in on enemies.
      Yes, I MANUALLY dashed into that box with SKILL.

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  Місяць тому

      @@IAmCymepka No it wasn't. Play the game for yourself if you don't believe.
      SRB2 has a thok aka an air dash that you have to manually aim yourself and doesn't home in on enemies or item boxes.

    • @IAmCymepka
      @IAmCymepka Місяць тому

      @@MariusUrucu you used the flipping attraction shield ability twice.

  • @mg24sanix
    @mg24sanix 3 місяці тому

    Dawg what's with the title of the video 💀💀

    • @HiCringe
      @HiCringe 3 місяці тому

      What was it?

    • @mg24sanix
      @mg24sanix 3 місяці тому

      @@HiCringe it was something about nuts

  • @ONNZF6
    @ONNZF6 3 місяці тому

    0:31 you just did homing attack.

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +1

      No I didn't... If I did use the shield ability you would hear the electric shield sfx which didn't play...
      Tell me you never played SRB2 before in a single comment lol

    • @FinalHopeTrio
      @FinalHopeTrio 3 місяці тому

      Actually, that was Sonic's Speed Thok, which gives Sonic a mid-air dash in the direction he was facing. It does not home in on any badniks, thus marking it down to a mid-air dash.

  • @Ajans-offical
    @Ajans-offical 3 місяці тому +2

    İlk

  • @anaozin.
    @anaozin. 3 місяці тому

    Ok, and?

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому

      And it's cool af and I want the world to know
      AND YOU WILL PLAY SRB2 AND LEARN TO APPRECIATE IT!!!

    • @anaozin.
      @anaozin. 3 місяці тому

      @@MariusUrucu i played It, and i discovered something, I HATE THE MOBILE CONTROLS

    • @MariusUrucu
      @MariusUrucu  3 місяці тому +1

      @@anaozin. Yeah... I don't like the mobile controls either... sorry about that bud.

    • @lacefrill
      @lacefrill 2 місяці тому

      ​@@anaozin.Just play controller if you have one

    • @anaozin.
      @anaozin. 2 місяці тому

      @@lacefrill buy one for me

  • @SHITTEDEXE
    @SHITTEDEXE Місяць тому

    Real