5 VERY SIGNIFICANT MOTORCYCLES
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2023
- A doco about 5 motorcycles which had a very significant impact when released due to their ground breaking innovations.
ON BOURBON STREET
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You're so right about how the Black Bomber should've been the wake up call for the British bike industry, I remember my sisters boyfriend taking me out on the back of his and it blowing off his mates 500 Tigers and being just as fast as the 650 Bonnies, plus it didn't leak oil like a dodgy refinery, but I remember them being described as "Jap scrap" by people who's bikes were being humiliated by the "Jap scrap".
The DOHC 450 was actually a better and more advanced engine than the CB750 launched in 1969, and quicker too! I know which I’d rather have, and it’s not a Bonnie.
The Triumph Speed Twin was nice. My Dad (who was a Velocette guy) took my Mum on a quick 90mph ride along the Welsh country lanes (to dry her hair!!) on his brother’s brand new Speed Twin in about 1950/52.
A lot of people get overly excited about the CB400 Four. But Honda’s JDM CB-1 400F NC27 with the gear driven cam NC23 engine is a much much better bike in every possible way.
You have to wonder what engineers like Scott and Turner would have come up with if they had access to the modern materials and techniques we take for granted, Soichiro Honda was perhaps more fortunate. Thank you.
Excellent video, the early footage was awesome! No health and safety in the good old days!! 🇬🇧
My Grandad loved his Scott. Great presentation
Scotts were very advanced for their time and thanks for the positive feedback.
The first Knucklehead and the first Speed Twin. Two real beauties. Ace video as always and the graphics, photographs and film footage are perfect. Especially the acetylene lamp sequence. Very enjoyable. 👍
Thanks buddy I love motorcycle history its just cool. Even the lamps are cool.
Try the Rondine 500, that turned into the Gilera 500 straight across the frame GP bike ,
A very fun trip down memory lane. Loved the look of that Honda Black Bomber engine. An old chap I know in ACT has one he built from a basket case of boxes.
They are a bit of a classic now. Very collectable!
Good selection! I'd rather have have a Bonneville too.
Hi MC, a superb upload. Thank you.
thanks mate, appreciate the nice feedback!
I enjoyed this, liked and subscribed.
Great, thanks and I enjoyed making this one a lot too. Along with the video on Urals it's my favourite!
Nice sound track!
Thanks mate
FN (Fabrique Nationale de Herstal) is a Belgian company established in 1889 to make arms and ammunition, and from 1901 to 1967 was also a motorcycle manufacturer. FN manufactured one of the world's first four-cylinder motorcycles, was famous for the use of shaft drive in all models from 1903 to 1923, achieved success in sprint and long-distance motorcycle racing, and after 1945, also in motocross.[1]
cheers from argentina mate!
So inspiring to see a four valve Rudge with exposed valve train showing off George Hack's design genius. 🤫
I personally absolutely love the old Rudges. They were a very advanced bike in their day and they looked fantastic.
i had a 750 oil frame bonne loved it so much when it was going lols
Oh well at least you have the memories 😉
My take is bikes like the BSA Bantam, many small post war european bikes...then the Japanese single two strokes of the early seventies...for making reliable performing cheap bikes
I cant believe I'm the first . I agree 100% with these picks and yes give me a Bonneville any day . On another note I had a 72 honda XL 250 and I believe that is the first 4 valve engine for regular consumer use that is so common today . I know the turn of the century racers had them and I know the ww2 Alison aircraft engine had them but common public use .
At least i know you watched all of it 😉 I too had a XL250 mine was a 74 or 75 I think. I could never decide if I liked that better than my DT 250 or not. Doubt i still can.
There's no real way the British industry could have taken notice and responded to the Honda CB450. They were still recovering from years of WW2 bombing. Japan was only heavily bombed in the final year of the war and suffered much less industrially until the nukes ended the bombing altogether.
It still wouldn’t have prevented the british industry from looking ahead insted of keeping looking back. They too had the possibilities to make OHC or DOHC engines. They also had the possibility to make 3 and 4 cylinder bikes, they still had the possibility to make motorcycles that were reliable and didn’t leak oil like a minor refinery - but they just didn’t.
The British did make 4 cylinder motorcycles even way back in 1898.
However, the one everyone remembers was the Arial Square Four first released in 1931. They also made many ohc motorcycles by Rudge, Norton, Sunbeam, Triumph and many others. The Sunbeam was also shaft driven.
Nevertheless, not only were they heavily bombed during WW2 they were also broke, with no money to develop new bikes and much of their machinery was old and knackered. Yet they still managed to make some great motorcycles even after WW2.
it was 1908 not 1910 on the Scott. Youll find all the right details in the motorcycle innovations video on my channel lol maybe its time we did a collaboration 🙂 we have a different angle but similar stance it seems 🙂 ride free mate the bomber was far from the first DOHC engine either, plenty of early Brits did and Peugeot did it in the early 1900's
Im afraid your history on Scott is wrong, 1908 was the year he made the very 1st 333cc prototype & in 1909 a few of the next version were made, actual Scott factory manufacturing of bikes didnt start until 1912 , Wikipedia is wrong about many things if thats where you got your info. The black bomber was indeed the very 1st "mass produced DOHC bike" as i mentioned in the video, that is a fact. The Peugeot was a prototype, a race bike not a production bike made for the public! I try my absolute best to get things as accurate as I possibly can. I Cant really see how any collaboration could work given our distance apart in the world but I appreciate the thought. Cheers
@@motorcyclecafe re "I try my absolute best to get things as accurate as possible" I know, thats why i watch your channel, i wasnt criticising or i wouldnt have suggested a collaboration 🙂none of us are infallible 🙂you are one of few i take the time to watch :-) have a good weekend mate
@@barebonesmc all good buddy. Finding the correct and true facts is the most time consuming thing for me. But even as hard as I try I have no doubt some things may still not be correct especially on the old bikes as things changed so quickly even during the same year. I enjoy your videos too buddy!! Cheers
@@motorcyclecafe i know what its like mate lol, the question of the first all aluminium perimiter chassis is the one that foxed me for longest, and to be fair im still not 100% but im still to find one that predates the OW01 and EXUP 🙂 and i wouldnt know quite as much about Scott unless id spent so long on him 🙂 enjoy the ride mate
Yeah but the Honda actually ran.
That procedure for lights was not at all necessary. You just rode in the dark like on a horse. Still a superb presentation, by the way.
Glad you enjoyed it, mate! thank you
My 1999 Harley evolution Sportster has more miles on it and all of my Japanese motorcycles had combines before they all died from cam chain tensioner failure. Buy 1965 triumph TR6 is only a couple years away from being 60 years old and is still on the road 🛣️. All of the so-called technically Superior Japanese motorcycles went from dealership to ownership to scrap yard. The so-called unreliable unsophisticated British motorcycles with last long enough to outlive their owners. The camshaft in my TR6 wore out when they were 50 years old. I have a Fairbanks Morse magneto for ignition and she is a first kick bike. I love my BSA 250 singles Starfire. They make great little commuting bikes as well as great little dirt bikes. When these guys with these water-cooled wanderers brag about how much horsepower they make I tell him I will wave at you while the ambulance crew is peeling you off a tree 🎄. Love I love the gear drive in a BSA, triumph or my Harley Sportster 883. It is a myth that the Japanese ran the British out of the motorcycle business the British business basically committed suicide. I miss the variety of motorcycles that were available for purchase back in the old days because today's motorcycles are a collection of government regulations on two wheels.
A great bike does not need a huge amount of horsepower. Great comment buddy!
@@motorcyclecafe I just put the Sportster back on the road 🛣️.I am shooting for 500,000miles before I do anything to the engine.
so your video is only about motorcycles build by english speaking people. Not very complete as below link shows. Study a bit more next time before publishing
Considering I ride a Ducati and a Ural, your comment is water off a ducks back to me.
The Triumph comment right for a million reasons none of which to do with engineering prowess or speed pure style and class and acceptance by the crowd. I remember leaving the pub one night to find my jap crap bike being knocked over and pissed on by a local bikie gang who naturally only rode US and UK bikes. I went back in for another drink it wasn't worth the kicking.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Four