Thank God. I'm just hoping we get an update for windows 11. Lots of people are saying their bravo throttle quadrant is having serious issues in windows 11. I'm building my new pc in windows 10 specifically to keep my bravo quadrant working. I just hope msfs 2024 is also going to get along with windows ten otherwise I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place
Yeah, let's not let a company fail which took money from hundreds 2 years ago, never released the product and won't issue refunds while the former CEO (Niki or whatever his name is) is under a 2.1 million dollar lawsuit. Anyone who gives them money anymore is a fool. He is not part of the company anymore, he is out, he has zero control or even any part of honeycomb anymore, he is under a lawsuit, he is facing fraud and possible misappropriation charges if California pursue them... Surprised snakebyte (the company that owns honeycomb) hasn't already gone for an injunction against him for false representation if he was at FSexpo
Thankyou for having a REAL channel that has a human commentator and not some junk AI speaking. Unfortunately you are rare these days. Keep it up. Good experience.
Amazing video AFS! You keep stepping up your game with these vids! I'm really looking forward to the new products from WinWing and Flitesim.com, their forcefeedback yoke looks amazing. Being modular is a great concept. Oh, and meeting Fabian from Flitesim.com at the expo was a real treat, great guy!! Exciting time for flight simming for sure! Cheers & Blue Skies my friend.
Bravo sir on the great video. Incredible hardware coming to flight simulation. 2024-25 is shaping up as an incredible year for the hobby. Time to start saving the funds to upgrade and renovate my setup. I’m looking forward to the last quarter of 2024. It’s gonna be huge!
been trying to get back into flight sim because of the M$ FlightSim24 and bought the Thrustmaster rudder so far, shall I wait instead of getting the Honeycomb Alpha+bravo set?
I wonder why this products don't look like the Airbus controls when I look at the pictures from a real plane there is no Yoke but the stick on the left hand side most of the controles seem to be in the niddle except for some that are in front above the display screens.
Why not just use your 'fake' email account to create a WinWing profile. Then simply go through the std purchase routine, get the shipping costs, then cancel the order. Job, Jobbed. Easy!
i was so excited for honeycomb, but i have a bravo throttle collecting dust over a year waiting on replacement. it is disappointing because their products aren't budget friendly
I wonder if original hardware like Thrustmaster Airbus will work. Velocity One, Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke Pack. I would hate to buy for MSFS 2024, other hardware.
According to the WinWing guy that announced them at FSExpo he was asked and said the Airbus EFIS is out in 2-3 months so preorders for that shouldn’t be far away, the CDU’s and the 737 MCP will be out by the end of this year, the rest that was announced releasing next year with more in this range to be announced then. A suggestion, quality over quantity with your news videos, feels like you are rushing them. It’s Moza, not Monza, it’s on the products multiple times in your video.
@@kralkrauterblach414 So how long have you been into flight sims? Because if it’s been decades like me it looks like it’s taken you far too long to learn that it’s normal with these kinds of things to be waiting months, it’s the same with Virpil’s stuff especially when it’s new. If you are not new then you should already know this. And by the way, kiddie? That was embarrassing. 🤦🏻♂️
@@WhiteHawk77 you are from winwing company ?? or a super fanboy from winwing ?? i buy since years hardware for PC and flightsims and racingsims , it takes maximum few days or 2 weeks but not 3 months , so you talk 100% bullsh...
The price of the Tobi eye tracker is insane, for what it is, hardware wise and compared to the cost of other, much more technical peripherals, the price is way to fucking high
That is good to hear about Honeycomb. Last year it sounded like it they were on their way out. I have both the Alpha and Bravo, and love them both. My Saitek Pro Rudder pedals are more than a little worn out(left spring for the toe brake is broken so it just flops back down)but they are still more than serviceable but, I was also looking at the Charlies to replace them with as the Thrustmaster Rudder Pedals are just too overpriced for my budget. Monsa is in the same boat. Sure they may be awesome but that base is looking to be about $700USD, and you still have to be a grip for it which is another $250-$300USD so you are looking at $1000USD and that is not including tax and shipping. So no, that is not a viable option for the majority of users out there, it's just pure greed.
Funny how *some channels still recommend ye olde - Logi Wingman Digital Extreme Joy, despite no calibration option in win10/64 itself. My old stick is what is holding my glorious flying career to ransom in FS24. (*some channels = bogus channels lol :p )
Not ALL 'Immersion' involves water. 'Immersion' also means a deep mental involvement in something. Although, if by your statement, you're implying that we're 'Crazy' then yeah, we can get a bit 'involved' (completely doolally-nutz), and my bank balance is definitely "going down for the third time". 🤣🤣🤣
@@D800Lover Sadly, I am not! 😭 Although, if I were, my bank would've marched me out at dawn and shot me. 🤣 No, I'm only a lowly 3070 user, still, it works pretty well for most things.
I think tobii is a joke 😢 it seems that it been a serious review until i see tobii présentation ! Be serious and présente a trackIR or a VR set but please not tobii 😂
Because it’s more complicated and expensive to release controllers, beyond a joypad, on console with the licensing costs and compatibility compared to PC for a group of people who are far, far less likely to be willing to pay more for extra hardware for one flight sim compared to those people on PC, where not only are they more likely to because they have more money to spend, but that’s where the hardcore simmers are that care more about these things overall and where there’s more than one flight sim.
We truly cannot let honeycomb die. Really happy to see that they’re on the come up.
Agreed, thanks.
Thank God. I'm just hoping we get an update for windows 11. Lots of people are saying their bravo throttle quadrant is having serious issues in windows 11. I'm building my new pc in windows 10 specifically to keep my bravo quadrant working. I just hope msfs 2024 is also going to get along with windows ten otherwise I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place
@@peterpalmer8645 I'm on windows 11 and have zero issue with any of my honeycomb equipment
Yeah, let's not let a company fail which took money from hundreds 2 years ago, never released the product and won't issue refunds while the former CEO (Niki or whatever his name is) is under a 2.1 million dollar lawsuit. Anyone who gives them money anymore is a fool. He is not part of the company anymore, he is out, he has zero control or even any part of honeycomb anymore, he is under a lawsuit, he is facing fraud and possible misappropriation charges if California pursue them... Surprised snakebyte (the company that owns honeycomb) hasn't already gone for an injunction against him for false representation if he was at FSexpo
@@peterpalmer8645 I use my honeycomb products on windows 11 with zero issues
Thankyou for having a REAL channel that has a human commentator and not some junk AI speaking. Unfortunately you are rare these days. Keep it up. Good experience.
Yeah but with the same quality of that AI sh*t
Top video as always mate. What a crazy busy year it's been so far! Best wishes.
Yes mate, looks like we are going to be busy.
Monza?
Fr 😂 I was so confused as to who the hell Monza was
Amazing video AFS! You keep stepping up your game with these vids!
I'm really looking forward to the new products from WinWing and Flitesim.com, their forcefeedback yoke looks amazing. Being modular is a great concept. Oh, and meeting Fabian from Flitesim.com at the expo was a real treat, great guy!!
Exciting time for flight simming for sure! Cheers & Blue Skies my friend.
Appreciate it! Thanks SF.
The one thing I’m so sad about now is the sheer lack of force feedback controls, and it’s nice to see them being made
Closing in on 100k Subs, good for you Aussie!
It’s been a year since I’ve ordered the throttle and rudder pedals and it hasn’t came yet😢
Hey, thanks excellent review. I would like to know where to get the base for the warthog that’s new provides control of the tension.
Bravo sir on the great video. Incredible hardware coming to flight simulation. 2024-25 is shaping up as an incredible year for the hobby. Time to start saving the funds to upgrade and renovate my setup. I’m looking forward to the last quarter of 2024. It’s gonna be huge!
Well said Richard, I agree. Cheers
been trying to get back into flight sim because of the M$ FlightSim24 and bought the Thrustmaster rudder so far, shall I wait instead of getting the Honeycomb Alpha+bravo set?
I wonder why this products don't look like the Airbus controls when I look at the pictures from a real plane there is no Yoke but the stick on the left hand side most of the controles seem to be in the niddle except for some that are in front above the display screens.
Wish i could find the shipping cost to Aus for the WinWing URSA MINOR Flightstick, without having to create an account...
Why not just use your 'fake' email account to create a WinWing profile.
Then simply go through the std purchase routine, get the shipping costs, then cancel the order. Job, Jobbed. Easy!
I thought the Honeycomb maker has quit production? If not - I wish they could fix the lousy trim wheel.
Can config files be shared/imported for the bravo throttle
Best of luck and god speed to WinWing
where can i buy a card inside honeycomb yoke connected to USB. ?
Hi! Thanks for your test. I think I'm going to crack. A quick question, do you know if this kind of accessories is compatible with Farming Simulator?
Winwing Cyber Tauras seems to me to be a last minute idea in response to the MOZA base that was announce a day before FSExpo.
Time will tell. The competition is welcome. Thank you for watching.
Rumours are moza and winwing worked on their respective bases together.
I just ordered the CLS-60, it looks like its going to be a total gamechanger!
It’s great, you will enjoy it.
i was so excited for honeycomb, but i have a bravo throttle collecting dust over a year waiting on replacement. it is disappointing because their products aren't budget friendly
Great Video Shane!
Thank you Mark, cheers.
Nice shane! Would love to get these
Thanks Cap. Cheers.
Thanks Shane. Great update
Can ypu please do one for those interested in doing ATC only
It's been nigh on twenty years, but I had a Logitech flight stick with force feedback. Kind of interesting that FF is the "latest" thing.
close to thirty years since i bought a Sidewinder Force Feedback stick
I wonder if original hardware like Thrustmaster Airbus will work. Velocity One, Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke Pack. I would hate to buy for MSFS 2024, other hardware.
Its Moza, and not Monza 😅
According to the WinWing guy that announced them at FSExpo he was asked and said the Airbus EFIS is out in 2-3 months so preorders for that shouldn’t be far away, the CDU’s and the 737 MCP will be out by the end of this year, the rest that was announced releasing next year with more in this range to be announced then.
A suggestion, quality over quantity with your news videos, feels like you are rushing them. It’s Moza, not Monza, it’s on the products multiple times in your video.
dont like this Shop anymore (winwing) , if you order you have to wait for looong months and months , really bad shop
@@kralkrauterblach414 guess your new to niche flight sim gear. 😁
@@WhiteHawk77 had nothing to do with new , and im not new , play longer than you kiddie
@@kralkrauterblach414 So how long have you been into flight sims? Because if it’s been decades like me it looks like it’s taken you far too long to learn that it’s normal with these kinds of things to be waiting months, it’s the same with Virpil’s stuff especially when it’s new. If you are not new then you should already know this.
And by the way, kiddie? That was embarrassing. 🤦🏻♂️
@@WhiteHawk77 you are from winwing company ?? or a super fanboy from winwing ?? i buy since years hardware for PC and flightsims and racingsims , it takes maximum few days or 2 weeks but not 3 months , so you talk 100% bullsh...
Where is Virpil :(
WinWing not even shipping in my country....
Super vidéo 👍Thanks
Winwing is killing it!
I want a Honeycomb Bravo so bad. But I also want to upgrade my video card and VR goggles. Money money money.
I'm still holding out for the personal Holodeck.
“Aviation grade aluminium” lol. Duralumin or a more modern grade/alloy?
monza?
The price of the Tobi eye tracker is insane, for what it is, hardware wise and compared to the cost of other, much more technical peripherals, the price is way to fucking high
Thank you sir for the video 🤝
My pleasure! Thank you.
ITS MOZA NOT MONZA
Yes, has been mention many times in the comments below. Thank you.
MONZA??? I know Moza
Moza not monza
Winwing is great but theyre CDU/MCDU are made of soft keys rather than hard Keys found in the real aircraft.
Are there any vegetables?
Great video, the only annoying thing is the fact you call Moza "Monza" thats not how it's pronounced!
Monza lmao
Like how does that N get in there over and over again when it’s in his own video many times on the products???
@@WhiteHawk77 True, and even WinWing sounds often like WingWing... really bad.
That is good to hear about Honeycomb. Last year it sounded like it they were on their way out. I have both the Alpha and Bravo, and love them both. My Saitek Pro Rudder pedals are more than a little worn out(left spring for the toe brake is broken so it just flops back down)but they are still more than serviceable but, I was also looking at the Charlies to replace them with as the Thrustmaster Rudder Pedals are just too overpriced for my budget. Monsa is in the same boat. Sure they may be awesome but that base is looking to be about $700USD, and you still have to be a grip for it which is another $250-$300USD so you are looking at $1000USD and that is not including tax and shipping. So no, that is not a viable option for the majority of users out there, it's just pure greed.
Cool
HoneycombE?
Funny how *some channels still recommend ye olde - Logi Wingman Digital Extreme Joy, despite no calibration option in win10/64 itself.
My old stick is what is holding my glorious flying career to ransom in FS24. (*some channels = bogus channels lol :p )
iv got my 14900kf, 64gb ram, 4070ti super and most importantly the arrow keys on my keyboard in readiness for fs2024
This Moza has nothing to do with reality in a flight sim stick.
Immersion? More immersion? You flight simmers want to drown?
Not ALL 'Immersion' involves water. 'Immersion' also means a deep mental involvement in something.
Although, if by your statement, you're implying that we're 'Crazy' then yeah, we can get a bit 'involved' (completely doolally-nutz), and my bank balance is definitely "going down for the third time". 🤣🤣🤣
@@smudge0356 Good for you! Are you in the 4090 club?
@@D800Lover Sadly, I am not! 😭
Although, if I were, my bank would've marched me out at dawn and shot me. 🤣
No, I'm only a lowly 3070 user, still, it works pretty well for most things.
@@smudge0356 Then I am more tragic than you are. So when 2024 comes out, well, you can guess what I will be doing. But 3070 is still decent.
Monza 💀💀💀
Win-wing not Wing-wing 🤣
I think tobii is a joke 😢 it seems that it been a serious review until i see tobii présentation ! Be serious and présente a trackIR or a VR set but please not tobii 😂
Not sure why manufacturers aren't thinking about Xbox, with the mfs24 coming soon.. Xbox users will only grow
Because it’s more complicated and expensive to release controllers, beyond a joypad, on console with the licensing costs and compatibility compared to PC for a group of people who are far, far less likely to be willing to pay more for extra hardware for one flight sim compared to those people on PC, where not only are they more likely to because they have more money to spend, but that’s where the hardcore simmers are that care more about these things overall and where there’s more than one flight sim.
Not useful, like a honeycomb fanboy gushing
Monza?