@@stephanbateman5410 Equal, imho, to Delenn's "If you value your lives, be somewhere else ..."; and Ivanova's "Who am I ...?" ... Not even Sheridan could drop such stone cold lines ...
@@SwiftTrooper5 It's not a matter of stunt performers having acting chops or not. They are chosen for their physical attributes, stamina, and willingness to risk their health for the job where the actors that make the big bucks do not. I'd go with a stunt performer anyday over a normal actor.
Nah, they probably got drunk, and while laughing said, "let's give a redhead a mental nuclear bomb degree of power, it'll be awesome to see what happens!"
Lyta, everything she did for the Alliance and how she was treated is everything you need to know to know that Byron was right. She deserved so much better. They all did.
My favorite part of this scene comes in the middle (it's cut here), when Garibaldi gets to the part about what he wants from her, and for a moment, her aloof attitude melts and she has a genuinely compassionate moment when she says "I can't remove an addiction, Michael."
@@nicholasmaude6906 I think because an addiction is physical, not just psychological.. However, I think she could put a block in his mind so he would never think about alcohol. Don't see why she couldn't do that.
@@tyranusfan The parts of the brain responsible for addiction are reasonably understood and IMO sometime this century will be understood to the point that addicts will be able to be cured.
I'm guessing she could see the lay of the land... glimpses into the unfolding of the circumstances that were coming, and could see that editing Michael's mind in a way that would fix his addiction would seriously threaten the contribution he was going to make in the upcoming battle... So she chose a diplomatic way to avoid messing with something that might threaten their success.
@@nicholasmaude6906 It is. Specifically for alchohol addiction you can take a tablet, a beta blocker, before imbibing which block the beta receptors that trigger a Dopamine release when alchohol is detected in the system. Without the feedback loop of action = Dopamine = Natural High, the brain starts to 'rewire' itself and over time you don't need to take the pills anymore. Look at Claudia Christians story, she's been where Garibaldi walked and come out the other side. The addiction almost killed her.
Lyta's obscene power even suffused her actress! By way of the Vorlon's tampering, Patricia Tallman look like she hasn't aged a day since this was shot 20 years ago.
I felt bad for her.. she was quite misstreated by "the good guys" along the series.. She risked her life many times during the Shadow war and provided the weapons the army of light needed to be able to stand against shadows (telepaths) but they never thrusted her and even moved her out of her cabin to save credits ..and after the telepath crisis no one believe her and took her like an enemy.. She never did or asked anything that wasnt fair..didnt understand why the main cast went so hard on her
It might've helped if they would've provided her with a good thrusting. Zach volunteered, the selfless and wonderful soul . . . I would've, too, given the chance.
I was disappointed that Lyta didn't hook up with Zack, Zack I think not only respected her but understood her in a way that no one else did. IMO to Zack Lyta was a beautiful highly intelligent woman who just happened to be a very powerful telepath. Zack would've been good for her and kept her from going off the deep end.
@@nicholasmaude6906 Zack reached out to her but in one of the sub movies there was a scenee (Third Space) Where she was hypntised by the lefto over programming (while she tried to destroy the artifact) She was in elevator with Zack - and he tried to let her know he was interested in pursuing a relationship with her - but since she was hynpnotised she didnt react well and told him to buzz off - so he did. In a sence that was a tragic turnpoint for both. He never again extended the offer - but since she was a telepath and a strong one i always found amazing that she didnt knew.
@Night shade No, there was an actual Telepath War... between the end of the series and Crusade, the rogue telepaths fought against the Psi Corps, and it was apparently a brutal war because they were fighting not only physically fighting each other, but at the same time trying to bash each others' minds in with telepathy. That's why in Crusade there is the throwaway line of "...ever since the Psi Corps was disbanded..." because Lyta actually did use her thermonuclear brain to win a major battle.
@@vagabond142 "because Lyta actually did use her thermonuclear brain to win a major battle" IMHO that was the REAL point in making Lyta so powerful. She wasn't changed for the war itself so much as the aftermath, to clear away the Psi Corps that had been taken over by the Shadows agents on Earth. Because the Vorlon's were assuming that there would simply be another war after that, and the only way to ensure Human telepaths could develop unmolested was to level the playing field once more.
The scariest part is that if Claudia hadn't left after Season 4, the Byron telepath story would've been Susan's, having her full potential awakened. Imagine Susan "God sent me" Ivanova as a telepathic Doomsday weapon.
+AtenRa I don't think the telepathic superweapon part would have been included if Ivanova had remained in the show, afterall she wasn't modified by the Vorlons (as far as we know anyway).
I'm pretty sure this plotline was always the station telepath's plotline (transferred from Talia to Lyta). Ivanova's involvement with the plotline would probably have been the split allegiances she would have had dealing with the plot, which would've been way, way more interesting than Lochley.
I remember watching this when it was first released I mean I I followed this show when it first came out and never missed an episode. And when that final part of this came out about the thermonuclear weapon and she turns around says pleased to meet you mr. Garibaldi I've literally got chills up and down my spine. This was one of my favorite parts or favorite scenes of the entire series
That was the moment he completely understood that he had to walk very carefully because she could kill him where he stood with a mere thought :P I mean he probably suspected that earlier but that was a confirmation :P
I liked the scene when they escaped. She walked up to a guard sweet as pie, leaned forward and whispered in their ear, "pain". The guard was immediately paralysed in pain without any effort at all.
i remember a scene I think it was on Mars when Lyta said "what do you know of sacrifi e?!" or similar and revealed her eyes being black and empty it was freaky. still remember it today.
I think the reason, sparrowit, is that everyone has an amount of distrust for telepaths. But I agree. Lyta bent over backwards to help the others and got screwed over repeatedly.
Probably one of the best lines in the show, delivered by one of the most underrated actors on the show. Lyta was absolutely captivating, and I don't mean just her appearance (but she was stunning there too). The B5 fans were robbed that the telepath war was never realized, Lyta's and Garabaldi's revenge on PsiCorp and Bester would have been Biblical to say the least.
I still think Garabaldi had a hand in the bombing of PsiCorps HQ on Mars. Probably not directly, but he could conveniently supply the rebels with the needed explosives
@@jameslabarre3624 Lyta was traced back for having funded that bombing. Had Garabaldi been behind it, even the telepaths would never have found out. Also Garabaldi had the mental block in place, so he could not act on his desire for revenge. The removal of that block was to be Lyta's payment to him, for helping her set up a haven for the rogue telepaths. And had Garabaldi bombed them, the entire planet would likely have cracked like an egg, such was Garabaldi's anger at Bester and the Corps. Garabaldi was nothing if not efficient and effective when he releases his anger.
First off, I can agree that Lyta deserved better. She did a lot out of friendship and wanting to do what was right. The B5 crew did try to repay her with allowing Byron and his group to remain on B5. But then Byron decided to get compensation for being made telepaths by the Vorlons. And since the Vorlons were gone... Speaking of the Vorlons, I can't help but feel that if she could have, she would have left with the Vorlons. Besides Byron, she was truly happiest with the Vorlons. It was Franklin who summed things up later this way by saying after everything that's happened, "Let's face it. She's pissed." I don't think anyone can disagree with him on that. But with whom is she pissed? Definitely PsiCorp. The B5 crew - okay, but not as much. Overall, I think she's pissed at the world and the universe. When her latent power manifested and calmly said, "Nice to meet you, Mr. Garibaldi," you got to wonder if Garibaldi made a deal with the devil. Some said she accepted it calmly and wasn't afraid of this power. But as she said, she only began to understand what happened. Question is - just how far does her power extend? What new powers does she have? If that doesn't fill one with apprehension, then you should be very worried. You got a potential dictator in the making here, the likes of which has never been seen. And what you said about the conflict between Lyta and PsiCorp - yes, she would have help from Garibaldi. I think she would also have help from Ivanova, who'd want a piece of the action as well. At the very least, a chance to deliver a good thrashing upon Bester before Lyta shatters his smugness and then Garibaldi finishes the job.
Even though Garibaldi ended up with a last minute old acquaintance, I totally shipped him and Lyta and in this scene you can tell he cares about her. Why everyone seemed to turn on her is beyond me.
Without her the Vorlons and Shadows would have obliterated the younger races. Instead of paying all her costs for her whole life, they nearly evicted her from her appartment on B5. Sounds like typical USA bs to me. A cojntry where you get a medal for "fighting for your country" and then end up in the streets, because you can't pay your medical bills!
@@pcuimac Iirc, Sheridan DID offer to cover her apartment rental for as long as she needs but she refused out of some misguided "pride" or "honor" and then got mad over it...
Yeah she's and i've met Patricia Tallman several times at the Auckland Armageddon Expo and even though she's in her mid-60s (She's 64 this year) she's still a very, very attractive woman.
Lyta went off travelling with G'Kar....according to the novels she got her revenge on Psi Corp when it was disbanded and Bester was imprisoned with his abilities suppressed....garibaldi saw too that....afterwards...she dissappeared!!! rumour has it she went to join the Vorlons in the Rim!!!
AFAIK she died during the bombing of PSI Corps Mars Headquarters. Pretty sure that was mentioned in one of the novels. Ofc she could have faked her death with her abilities, but I do remember Bester considering her dead.
@@krzosu I didnt say Bester killed her, lol. Reading helps. She died during a bombing of Psi Corps, because she may have been powerful but that does not mean she knows how to operate explosives.
@@AlexJones-ue1ll I know and neither did I - What i meant is that with her skills and actuall power - if she wanted she just could put that info into his brain and make it look so good that he could actually belive it was true. So no mate its not the reading part that slipped by me :P Cheers o/
@@krzosu hey Talia Winters did the same thing when one of the episodes that was having Dr Franklin that's one of the runners for the telepaths it was almost at the very end
All these years later, no other sci-fi program has come close to the depth and detail of Babylon 5. Each character has various shades of grey and no one faction is either right or wrong. I beleive they are trying to reboot B5 for the modern age, but I don't think they will come close to the original.
The grat thing about B5... character development... from being ignored, shoved around trying to help and fit in somewehre to the most powerful being in the Galaxy after the frist ones left.... so powerful that she has to exile...
Well, taking control of a large room full of people probably scared the hell out of them. However, I was surprised, after the support they gave G'kar and the Narns that there wasn't more support for the "telepathic revolution".
And if you said that with a proper meaning - then she would probably fry your brain right there on the spot :P At the this she was pissed as hell and i doubt she would let one of those comments just fly ;] Luckily for Garibaldi she sensed he was all about the proper bussiness and that prob saved his live right there.
The best thing with the writing of Lyta was she wasn't cast as unhinged .or a rouge bomber on a hair trigger. Just a real person hurt and using gained power for her people. I see the "Vorlon gift ? more as a political gain" The G'Kar Lyta spin off set up. never happened It could have been epic.
@Phelan My mom reads the books that take place after the series and it said that she died in the telepath war, If my memory serves me right, she destroyed Psycore's Headquarters in the attack that she died in.
The part where the writer (likely JMS) makes an error here is for any anticipated war you have a very large number of small weapons, an impressive number of medium weapons, and fair number of large weapons. As many as you deem necessary for a "conventional" war. To "keep the peace" and hopefully prevent all out war, you have enough "doomsday" or "apocalyptic" weapons to destroy everything, including yourself, several times over. Lyta isn't just the equivalent of atomic bomb today. Assuming she's the equivalent of a doomsday weapon she's hundreds of atomic bombs... and so are the handful telepaths modified like her. They can probably wipe out sentient life over vast distances.
In the books, Garibaldi fulfils his end of the bargain for supplying money for weapons for the Telepath War. In return, Lyta Alexander removed the mental block Bester put in Garibaldi's head. Garibaldi captures Bester and the former Psy Cop is imprisoned for the rest of his life and put on the Sleeper Program. Bester kills himself after 10 years.
no the movie series never covers that but the books do, the books tell ALOT more on what happened between season 5 and the last episode of season 5, etc
All that power. It could have been used for the benefit of the Interstellar Alliance. But Sheriden was a jerk and treated Lyta (and all telepaths really) like trash. He should be grateful she didn't use that power against *him*. While having carried Kosh inside of him may have made *him* immune to her mind control, she could have easily just forced everybody else around him to beat him to death! She probably should have. It was his unwillingness to argue with Earthgov over the continued existence of Psi Corps, despite it being run by former Shadow and Clark allies, that would soon lead to the Telepath War.
Sheridan displays some sympathy for telepaths, as shown by the fact that he allowed Byron's people onto the station in the first place, but yeah, he doesn't stick up for them as much as he should. This is pretty obvious in regards to Lyta, who he continually used as a tool who he ignored when he didn't need her abilities, in contrast to his other close allies and subordinates on the station who he would bend over backwards to help. Like, when Earthgov tries to boot him and Ivanova to smaller quarters, he stages a protest and finds a loophole that allows him to stay. When Lyta gets booted out of her quarters because she can't pay, he doesn't do anything, even though she's just as much of a hero of the Alliance as anyone on his command staff. It's sad, but the only person who really treated her like part of the family was Dr. Franklin. You can tell in season 5 that he's the only person she's friendly towards, because he's actually kind and helpful towards her.
Sheridan stopped trusting Lyta when she blew up Z'ha'dum without consulting him even though he was right next to her. He was right about that. But not offering her at least food and board after all she had done for the station and thus pushing her to work for the Psi Corp again was unforgivable.
"Pleased to meet you, Mr. Garibaldi." Sends shivers down your spine
Ranks alongside Delenn’ “Why not”?
@@stephanbateman5410
Equal, imho, to Delenn's "If you value your lives, be somewhere else ..."; and Ivanova's "Who am I ...?" ...
Not even Sheridan could drop such stone cold lines ...
Vorlon presence still resides in Lyta or split personality who has the most power.
Poor Lyta. She never caught a break in this series.
No, but she looked fiiiiiiiiiiiiine.
She did for a very short time, but they killed Byron.
Patricia Tallman proved Stunt performers can have acting chops. And look great doing it.
@@SwiftTrooper5
It's not a matter of stunt performers having acting chops or not.
They are chosen for their physical attributes, stamina, and willingness to risk their health for the job where the actors that make the big bucks do not.
I'd go with a stunt performer anyday over a normal actor.
Surely the Vorlons knew better than to give a redhead such power.
God works in mysterious ways
Nah, they probably got drunk, and while laughing said, "let's give a redhead a mental nuclear bomb degree of power, it'll be awesome to see what happens!"
I can think of worse people to give such power to - most of them being Trump's wives and Theresa May.
Maybe so, but he's got nothing on the Vorlons.
Redheads have already enjoy such power.
Lyta, everything she did for the Alliance and how she was treated is everything you need to know to know that Byron was right. She deserved so much better. They all did.
And her having her temper tantrum starting to control everyone in the room also proves she didn't listen to anything Byron was saying.
My favorite part of this scene comes in the middle (it's cut here), when Garibaldi gets to the part about what he wants from her, and for a moment, her aloof attitude melts and she has a genuinely compassionate moment when she says "I can't remove an addiction, Michael."
Being a very powerful telepath I do not believe that she couldn't remove Garibaldi's addiction.
@@nicholasmaude6906 I think because an addiction is physical, not just psychological.. However, I think she could put a block in his mind so he would never think about alcohol. Don't see why she couldn't do that.
@@tyranusfan The parts of the brain responsible for addiction are reasonably understood and IMO sometime this century will be understood to the point that addicts will be able to be cured.
I'm guessing she could see the lay of the land... glimpses into the unfolding of the circumstances that were coming, and could see that editing Michael's mind in a way that would fix his addiction would seriously threaten the contribution he was going to make in the upcoming battle...
So she chose a diplomatic way to avoid messing with something that might threaten their success.
@@nicholasmaude6906 It is. Specifically for alchohol addiction you can take a tablet, a beta blocker, before imbibing which block the beta receptors that trigger a Dopamine release when alchohol is detected in the system. Without the feedback loop of action = Dopamine = Natural High, the brain starts to 'rewire' itself and over time you don't need to take the pills anymore.
Look at Claudia Christians story, she's been where Garibaldi walked and come out the other side. The addiction almost killed her.
When the U tube ad is longer than the show.
Lyta's obscene power even suffused her actress! By way of the Vorlon's tampering, Patricia Tallman look like she hasn't aged a day since this was shot 20 years ago.
Can you say "hot"? Sure you can 🤫
@@blueindigo1000 I've wanted that woman in the most earnest way from the moment I ever saw her.
I think the scariest part is how calm she is about the whole thing. Great writing and acting.
Well some people call it 'Cold Furry". :)
"Pleased to meet you, Mr. Garibaldi"
One of the scariest lines in the show!!!
OMG!
And a really HOT doomsday weapon at that.
christosvoskresye meh
Thermonuclear hot.
I felt bad for her.. she was quite misstreated by "the good guys" along the series.. She risked her life many times during the Shadow war and provided the weapons the army of light needed to be able to stand against shadows (telepaths) but they never thrusted her and even moved her out of her cabin to save credits ..and after the telepath crisis no one believe her and took her like an enemy..
She never did or asked anything that wasnt fair..didnt understand why the main cast went so hard on her
It might've helped if they would've provided her with a good thrusting. Zach volunteered, the selfless and wonderful soul . . . I would've, too, given the chance.
Ummmm, it was just a tv show, she's just an actress, reality is nothing to fear.
@@thehellyousay thanks for your input
I was disappointed that Lyta didn't hook up with Zack, Zack I think not only respected her but understood her in a way that no one else did. IMO to Zack Lyta was a beautiful highly intelligent woman who just happened to be a very powerful telepath. Zack would've been good for her and kept her from going off the deep end.
@@nicholasmaude6906 Zack reached out to her but in one of the sub movies there was a scenee (Third Space) Where she was hypntised by the lefto over programming (while she tried to destroy the artifact) She was in elevator with Zack - and he tried to let her know he was interested in pursuing a relationship with her - but since she was hynpnotised she didnt react well and told him to buzz off - so he did. In a sence that was a tragic turnpoint for both. He never again extended the offer - but since she was a telepath and a strong one i always found amazing that she didnt knew.
Strongest Telepath And The MOST GORGEOUS. 💪🏻🌹👑😍
Smash
we'll miss you Jerry
Yup
Still though, a movie covering the telepath war would have been epic.
@Night shade No, there was an actual Telepath War... between the end of the series and Crusade, the rogue telepaths fought against the Psi Corps, and it was apparently a brutal war because they were fighting not only physically fighting each other, but at the same time trying to bash each others' minds in with telepathy. That's why in Crusade there is the throwaway line of "...ever since the Psi Corps was disbanded..." because Lyta actually did use her thermonuclear brain to win a major battle.
@@vagabond142 What I didn't like was that they supposedly killed Lyta off off-screen and did so in the novels.
@@vagabond142 I thought she won the war with it?
@@vagabond142
"because Lyta actually did use her thermonuclear brain to win a major battle"
IMHO that was the REAL point in making Lyta so powerful.
She wasn't changed for the war itself so much as the aftermath, to clear away the Psi Corps that had been taken over by the Shadows agents on Earth.
Because the Vorlon's were assuming that there would simply be another war after that, and the only way to ensure Human telepaths could develop unmolested was to level the playing field once more.
I always loved Lyta...
The scariest part is that if Claudia hadn't left after Season 4, the Byron telepath story would've been Susan's, having her full potential awakened. Imagine Susan "God sent me" Ivanova as a telepathic Doomsday weapon.
AtenRa Damn, that would have been Op'ed. Would have loved that more than this to be honest.
+AtenRa No...just no. Ivanova with that kind of power is just...again no. Refuse to compute. *huddles in the corner cowering*
+AtenRa I don't think the telepathic superweapon part would have been included if Ivanova had remained in the show, afterall she wasn't modified by the Vorlons (as far as we know anyway).
Oh....that would have been FUN to see, no joke.
I'm pretty sure this plotline was always the station telepath's plotline (transferred from Talia to Lyta). Ivanova's involvement with the plotline would probably have been the split allegiances she would have had dealing with the plot, which would've been way, way more interesting than Lochley.
I remember watching this when it was first released I mean I I followed this show when it first came out and never missed an episode. And when that final part of this came out about the thermonuclear weapon and she turns around says pleased to meet you mr. Garibaldi I've literally got chills up and down my spine. This was one of my favorite parts or favorite scenes of the entire series
"What camera?" "..... riiiight" :D
thats at least an P-9 level Psi powers, Psi 11+ can even detect vessels in hyperspace..
That was the moment he completely understood that he had to walk very carefully because she could kill him where he stood with a mere thought :P I mean he probably suspected that earlier but that was a confirmation :P
OMG!! She's a Goa'uld!!
Jaffa, Kree!
Yea there is probably a correlation!!
@Bub the Zombie it's monster in uk actually, and I'm adhd one can of that shite and I'm awake for days!!
Indeed.
As a Goa'uld I now possess the strength of many men!
Even years later, this scene gives chills.
This takes the saying "I am become death, destroyer of worlds" to a whole new level.
I liked the scene when they escaped. She walked up to a guard sweet as pie, leaned forward and whispered in their ear, "pain". The guard was immediately paralysed in pain without any effort at all.
i remember a scene I think it was on Mars when Lyta said "what do you know of sacrifi e?!" or similar and revealed her eyes being black and empty it was freaky. still remember it today.
Probably my favorite story thread from the series. I always craved seeing my favorite threads go oh so much deeper.
I think the reason, sparrowit, is that everyone has an amount of distrust for telepaths. But I agree. Lyta bent over backwards to help the others and got screwed over repeatedly.
That was probably a rare moment where for a second, Garibaldi must have been terrified.
Maybe had to change his shorts.
“🎼Pleased to meet you.
Hope you guess my name”
I wasn’t the only one who had that ear worm after Lyra said that, right?
Probably one of the best lines in the show, delivered by one of the most underrated actors on the show. Lyta was absolutely captivating, and I don't mean just her appearance (but she was stunning there too). The B5 fans were robbed that the telepath war was never realized, Lyta's and Garabaldi's revenge on PsiCorp and Bester would have been Biblical to say the least.
I still think Garabaldi had a hand in the bombing of PsiCorps HQ on Mars. Probably not directly, but he could conveniently supply the rebels with the needed explosives
@@jameslabarre3624 Lyta was traced back for having funded that bombing. Had Garabaldi been behind it, even the telepaths would never have found out.
Also Garabaldi had the mental block in place, so he could not act on his desire for revenge. The removal of that block was to be Lyta's payment to him, for helping her set up a haven for the rogue telepaths.
And had Garabaldi bombed them, the entire planet would likely have cracked like an egg, such was Garabaldi's anger at Bester and the Corps. Garabaldi was nothing if not efficient and effective when he releases his anger.
First off, I can agree that Lyta deserved better. She did a lot out of friendship and wanting to do what was right. The B5 crew did try to repay her with allowing Byron and his group to remain on B5. But then Byron decided to get compensation for being made telepaths by the Vorlons. And since the Vorlons were gone...
Speaking of the Vorlons, I can't help but feel that if she could have, she would have left with the Vorlons. Besides Byron, she was truly happiest with the Vorlons.
It was Franklin who summed things up later this way by saying after everything that's happened, "Let's face it. She's pissed." I don't think anyone can disagree with him on that. But with whom is she pissed? Definitely PsiCorp. The B5 crew - okay, but not as much. Overall, I think she's pissed at the world and the universe.
When her latent power manifested and calmly said, "Nice to meet you, Mr. Garibaldi," you got to wonder if Garibaldi made a deal with the devil. Some said she accepted it calmly and wasn't afraid of this power. But as she said, she only began to understand what happened. Question is - just how far does her power extend? What new powers does she have? If that doesn't fill one with apprehension, then you should be very worried. You got a potential dictator in the making here, the likes of which has never been seen.
And what you said about the conflict between Lyta and PsiCorp - yes, she would have help from Garibaldi. I think she would also have help from Ivanova, who'd want a piece of the action as well. At the very least, a chance to deliver a good thrashing upon Bester before Lyta shatters his smugness and then Garibaldi finishes the job.
Rumbling sound in the distance when the eyes go white. Yeah Lyta is strong in the Force.
Even though Garibaldi ended up with a last minute old acquaintance, I totally shipped him and Lyta and in this scene you can tell he cares about her. Why everyone seemed to turn on her is beyond me.
Without her the Vorlons and Shadows would have obliterated the younger races. Instead of paying all her costs for her whole life, they nearly evicted her from her appartment on B5. Sounds like typical USA bs to me. A cojntry where you get a medal for "fighting for your country" and then end up in the streets, because you can't pay your medical bills!
Clearly Zach was more interested in her than Garibaldi ever was.
@@pcuimac Iirc, Sheridan DID offer to cover her apartment rental for as long as she needs but she refused out of some misguided "pride" or "honor" and then got mad over it...
She was THE hottest.
I remember when I was 12 thinking the same thing the first time I seem this
Yeah she's and i've met Patricia Tallman several times at the Auckland Armageddon Expo and even though she's in her mid-60s (She's 64 this year) she's still a very, very attractive woman.
terrifying when her eyes start to glow. Would be funny if she said "I only have eyes for you Garibaldi"
0:28 “Ok. You want me as a partner? Then I have to be in ALL the way...”
Best pickup line ever
Colonel Graff ugh. I didn’t even hear it like that. Thanks
I have always felt that Lyta got the short end of the deal!
1:38 "Kneel before your god!" Oops, sorry, wrong show. lol
locutus442 Jaffa, kree!
Would have made a better Hathor, tbh...
Your not the only one to think that. Maybe a mutated God as her eyes went black red before going all snakey.
Well Anubis did look a little Vorlon from his mother's side 😂
@@Avallachgrey BLACK EYES ! call SaM AND dEAN
Lyta went off travelling with G'Kar....according to the novels she got her revenge on Psi Corp when it was disbanded and Bester was imprisoned with his abilities suppressed....garibaldi saw too that....afterwards...she dissappeared!!! rumour has it she went to join the Vorlons in the Rim!!!
AFAIK she died during the bombing of PSI Corps Mars Headquarters. Pretty sure that was mentioned in one of the novels. Ofc she could have faked her death with her abilities, but I do remember Bester considering her dead.
@@AlexJones-ue1ll Lol if she wanted she probably could warp bester mind any way she wanted she was too powerfull even for Bester to handle later on.
@@krzosu I didnt say Bester killed her, lol. Reading helps. She died during a bombing of Psi Corps, because she may have been powerful but that does not mean she knows how to operate explosives.
@@AlexJones-ue1ll I know and neither did I - What i meant is that with her skills and actuall power - if she wanted she just could put that info into his brain and make it look so good that he could actually belive it was true. So no mate its not the reading part that slipped by me :P Cheers o/
@@krzosu hey Talia Winters did the same thing when one of the episodes that was having Dr Franklin that's one of the runners for the telepaths it was almost at the very end
I had no idea that Lyta had been possessed by a goa'uld!
There should've been a spin-off, of G'kar & Lyta's adventures
She's very strong and the vorolons weren't playing at all.
The 12 colonies regarded telepaths as those touched by the gods.
1:40 When you realize Lyta Alexander was a Goa'uld all along (Stargate reference)
Then her eyes would glow yellow.
This is ascended white.
All these years later, no other sci-fi program has come close to the depth and detail of Babylon 5.
Each character has various shades of grey and no one faction is either right or wrong.
I beleive they are trying to reboot B5 for the modern age, but I don't think they will come close to the original.
Lyra is the hottest in the whole series of B⁵
The grat thing about B5... character development... from being ignored, shoved around trying to help and fit in somewehre to the most powerful being in the Galaxy after the frist ones left.... so powerful that she has to exile...
Well, taking control of a large room full of people probably scared the hell out of them. However, I was surprised, after the support they gave G'kar and the Narns that there wasn't more support for the "telepathic revolution".
"What camera?"
"...right."
The Vorlon's big weapon was the planet killer.. was she ever anything close to that?
Garibaldi was always so nosy. He didn't need to know that.
You have to let me all the way in ...lol i’d say that to her too 😂
And if you said that with a proper meaning - then she would probably fry your brain right there on the spot :P At the this she was pissed as hell and i doubt she would let one of those comments just fly ;] Luckily for Garibaldi she sensed he was all about the proper bussiness and that prob saved his live right there.
I always wondered, if I am the only one to think of other conotations than professional business here. ;)
Love that bit
"What Camera?"
RIP Garibaldi
It is all just a space train, until the atom bomb starts saying hello.
Meet proto-Kerrigan!
at least one of the beautiful redheads got a happy ending
+Joshua Sweetvale I wonder if lyta and kerrigan go shoe shopping together..
If they ever met, they probably would
The Vorlons knew exactly what they were doing. The red hair says, _“Don’t Touch!.”_
She couldn't decide if she wanted her eyes to glow red or white at the end
When Garibaldi says he needs to be “all the way in”, just drop your pants. It’s about to get real!
Great show
IIRC G'Kar arranged for her a trip beyond the rims or something like that?
She joined the Vorlons and left our galaxy.
To be on the receiving line of that speech🥶
she should have fried Sheridans Brains
This is the one gripe I have about the series, lyta got a raw deal after all tge shit she was put through.
The best thing with the writing of Lyta
was she wasn't cast as unhinged .or a rouge bomber on a hair trigger.
Just a real person hurt and using gained power for her people.
I see the "Vorlon gift ? more as a political gain"
The G'Kar Lyta spin off set up. never happened It could have been epic.
Aka she is a walking apocalypse, how fun.
I bet that gave him nightmares for the rest of his life
its sad that she dies in the telepath war.... Never would of thought someone could kill her :( RIP Lyta
@Phelan My mom reads the books that take place after the series and it said that she died in the telepath war, If my memory serves me right, she destroyed Psycore's Headquarters in the attack that she died in.
@Phelan im not sure, as i said my mom read the books but maybe it said something in the crusade books cuz i think she read them too
It wouldn't have surprised me if Lyta had squirrelled away somewhere Oppenheimer's Bhagavad Gita quote.
Good scene but they cut out a worthwhile part where he mentioned his drinking and she said even she cannot fix that.
That is why everyone was scared to death of her
They should've stuck with the solid black eyes - that looked a lot more terrifying than the Goa'uld glow.
Shadows vs Vorlon influence I guess.
These last 4 episodes were great closers for the series
oh man.. Geribaldi almost popped the question.. "Who are you?" Never realised this before =D
"What do you want?"
The Bene Gesserit women would have been no match for her...
understatement
Redheads are already weapons of mass destruction...... My ex and the way she laid waste to my life was proof of that.
The part where the writer (likely JMS) makes an error here is for any anticipated war you have a very large number of small weapons, an impressive number of medium weapons, and fair number of large weapons. As many as you deem necessary for a "conventional" war. To "keep the peace" and hopefully prevent all out war, you have enough "doomsday" or "apocalyptic" weapons to destroy everything, including yourself, several times over.
Lyta isn't just the equivalent of atomic bomb today. Assuming she's the equivalent of a doomsday weapon she's hundreds of atomic bombs... and so are the handful telepaths modified like her. They can probably wipe out sentient life over vast distances.
Garibaldi wanted to be more protective of her
Lyta... Woof woof, so hot
With today's technology, that could've been done to be so much cooler. but still a nice scene.
True but Patricia Tallman wouldn't do anymore after the way she was treated.
In the books, Garibaldi fulfils his end of the bargain for supplying money for weapons for the Telepath War. In return, Lyta Alexander removed the mental block Bester put in Garibaldi's head. Garibaldi captures Bester and the former Psy Cop is imprisoned for the rest of his life and put on the Sleeper Program. Bester kills himself after 10 years.
This is so good part in this series... Lyta and Garibaldi strikes a deal :P
cause of tnt we never got to see a telepath war
Lyta spent the entire series wanting somebody to care. I can barely watch the episode where she left with G'Kar. She deserved better than that.
I wish Garibaldi could get ALL the way in!
did anyone else notice Lyta is a Goa'uld when did this happen? wtf
I don't like how they treated her in the end.
same that character has so much potential and to think they went off on crusades instead of her fucking up psi-core...
@@deepdragon2 She fucked up PsiCorp. There was a trilogy of PsiCorps books written after and the third gave hints at what she did.
@@pintpullinggeek did the books say what happened to her?
When she said those lines chills just went up and down my spine. (uuugh...)
Lyta was hot!
She helped them and they treated her as shit, no wonder she is furious.
nordea, denmark, buy 1 danish elephant beer, no probs! ye right!
Someone needs to make a Rozemyne meme with this.
Makes one wonder what the child of Lyta and Jason Ironheart would be like.....
Lyta wasn't involved with Ironheart, that was Talia.
@@kerryedavis This I know. My statement was a "what if" scenario.
" What camera"
1:40. Definitely an "Oh S#IT" moment.
Will, we know what happened to G'kar just not Lyta.
no the movie series never covers that but the books do, the books tell ALOT more on what happened between season 5 and the last episode of season 5, etc
Given what we're shown here, it's more likely that Lyta IS the bomb that blew up the Psi Corps HQ.
All that power. It could have been used for the benefit of the Interstellar Alliance. But Sheriden was a jerk and treated Lyta (and all telepaths really) like trash. He should be grateful she didn't use that power against *him*. While having carried Kosh inside of him may have made *him* immune to her mind control, she could have easily just forced everybody else around him to beat him to death! She probably should have. It was his unwillingness to argue with Earthgov over the continued existence of Psi Corps, despite it being run by former Shadow and Clark allies, that would soon lead to the Telepath War.
Only problem with that being as soon as he felt the first punch land he would have just squeezed the trigger, and I don't think she was blaster proof.
Especially with that PPG at less than two inches from her temple Erik.
She was also telekinetic and could dismantle metal objects with a thought!
Sheridan displays some sympathy for telepaths, as shown by the fact that he allowed Byron's people onto the station in the first place, but yeah, he doesn't stick up for them as much as he should. This is pretty obvious in regards to Lyta, who he continually used as a tool who he ignored when he didn't need her abilities, in contrast to his other close allies and subordinates on the station who he would bend over backwards to help. Like, when Earthgov tries to boot him and Ivanova to smaller quarters, he stages a protest and finds a loophole that allows him to stay. When Lyta gets booted out of her quarters because she can't pay, he doesn't do anything, even though she's just as much of a hero of the Alliance as anyone on his command staff.
It's sad, but the only person who really treated her like part of the family was Dr. Franklin. You can tell in season 5 that he's the only person she's friendly towards, because he's actually kind and helpful towards her.
Sheridan stopped trusting Lyta when she blew up Z'ha'dum without consulting him even though he was right next to her. He was right about that.
But not offering her at least food and board after all she had done for the station and thus pushing her to work for the Psi Corp again was unforgivable.
I see something like that and I'm just going to be a blur running out the door
0:28 - 0:33
I can't say I blame him
Yep right on both counts!