glad i stumbled upon this. great video! and i really like the rule set. i usually play flames of war, but this i think is an excellent step up at least for infantry combat. thanks very much
You're welcome :) I'm glad you liked it. I started with FoW myself. This plays very differently obviously and has become one of my favourite go to sets for representing platoon infantry engagements
Excellent job. I love the table-top layout (good use of cows!). Great example of how a set of rules (Crossfire in this case) should be used to 'fit' your style of play. I think this video is a grand example of how we can use a set of rules, instead of following it to the letter. Excellent. I would love to see more 'casual' videos like this. I'll be watching part 2 tonight! Kurtus
Thanks Kurtus, glad you liked it. Hope to make a few more of these type of videos demonstrating a variety of rule sets I play. There are some excellent gaming systems that emphasize different perspectives of the battlefield.
Bloody brilliant mate! Beautiful to look at and well explained. I would love to start a 28mm infantry collection and use these rules. Yes single based figures are better and add to the realism.
1. How does one get into table top gaming, WW2 crossfire specifically? 2. Where do I buy the mini figures or if they are kits where do I buy the kits? 3. What is the scale?
Well JUNTEX obviously getting the rule book is a good place to start. That's how I started. LindyBeige has some excellent vids on his channel here on UA-cam. Gives you some great advice on how to start out in the hobby and the fundamentals of Crossfire. Crossfire also has a Yahoo Group that is always helpful to newcomers and you might discover people already playing close to where you live. groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Crossfire-WWII/info If you're a FB person there's also a Page here : facebook.com/groups/1105676782813076/ I buy my gear mainly online but depending on where you live there can be specializing wargaming outlets. There is no official Crossfire scale. I play with 15mm and 20mm. The vid has 20mm. 15mm is a good alternative. Just Google Battlefront Flames of War miniatures and you'll discover a wealth of info. It is a different rule system but the hobby side is exactly the same. Their website is very helpful to the newcomer to the hobby. The basing is very similar; in fact my Crossfire 15mm are based on Flames of War stands (I've just used 3 minis instead of FoW's 4 or 5 minis per stand) And 1:72 is roughly 20mm (depending on the manufacturer) Best of Luck
+Last Defenders I'm planning on doing some more but I'm so busy right now. I am making a vid tutorial for Iron Cross which is just released and is thought to be similiar to Crossfire
In first vid you said that one squad of Germans stayed on the first floor of the building, while two squads plus MG squad took the second floor. When the Americans close assaulted the house, would't they run into the first floor units before engaging the units on the second floor
Please, please, please keep more pf these videos coming! Maybe a game played against somebody else, maybe more in-depth discussion of tactics, stuff like that. I absolutely love Crossfire and I'd really love to see more of it (especially if it's presented on such an amazingly detailed table) :D So yeah, please, more Crossfire vids. I've already subscribed so I won't miss them if you put some up ;D
Hi, thanks very much....I do intend to do that but alas life gets in the way. I will I'm sure find time to do something perhaps before or right after Christmas. Not sure if you saw my blog but it shows some pics of the Operation Crossfire game I played recently: warpanda.blogspot.ca
War Panda Awesome, then I'll have something to watch after Christmas :P And no, I have in fact not seen your blog up to now. Thanks for pointing it out to me :)
Fantastic table! Very nice. I don't think I see the need for your house rule on spotting. If they lose init. when they fail the roll, that is punishment enough IMO. Especially in a scenario such as this where I assume there is a time limit for the US to achieve their objective. My two cents...but boy...what a nice table! :)
Amazing terrain and very well done video! Thanks. Not sure if you are still playing CrossFire, but as far as I know the Close Combat rules are diferent from the way you play. In structures, the PC modifier does not count for every combat. Instead, it only contributes to a single combat (see page 16 of the rulebook). Also, squads inside a building may fire out from any direction (360). Your house rules block the Germans reactive fire, but do allow the US to enter. That seems a bit counter intuitive. Hope that makes the fight a little easier for the Germans ;-)
you know how people are all about computer games? I look forward to the day when there are actual models that can come to life and move on their own in 3d reality that aren't holograms!
Thank you for the compliment. It is a home made drop cloth covered with independent terrain pieces and coloured sand for roads etc. I use a hand held vacuum to recollect the sand afterwards
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@@JD77ATH Very impressive! I have seen the pictures on your blog as well and they looka ll really good. Maybe you could make a video when you create a new scenery? I doubt I would be the only one who would love to se how all the details come together step by step!
Why is war gaming is so crazily addictive? Haha. I love Steel Panthers on the pc, but really... it is because it is a tabletop game at its heart and so i have found myself here. Theres something about tabletop that i really like. But crossfire is particularly streamline and i like that in a tabletop experience. I am not saying its the best overall, but with my kind of lifestyle right now, if i was to play a tabletop game with someone, crossfires streamlined rulestyle looks brilliant.
There are armour rules but they are commonly viewed as incomplete. Some veterans of the game have tried their hand at house rules. Check out the Crossfire Yahoo Group or their Facebook Page you're interested. Personally I inserted TFL's IABSM's armour rules when I've played with armour
+AussieAnnihilation There are no official miniatures for Crossfire and I'm using a mix of various 20mm figure manufacturers. But other players use different scales: 6mm, 15mm, 28mm or even larger. If you're looking for the rules themselves I believe they are available from Caliver Books in the UK or On Military Matters (USA
War Panda what manufacturers do you recommend to buy infantry that have decent detail like yours ? i know of some good companies that produce vehicles but for infantry im having trouble find decently detailed models ... thanks for the hlp in advance
+Jeremy Smith Sorry Jeremy, didn't see this question till now. My own personal favorite minis are 20mm AB. abfigures.com/ They are amazingly detailed and the proportions are very realistic. I like my 28mm Warlord, Artizan and Crusader too but 20mm AB are my all time favorites
War Panda I use Lego and it works fine for me! Hell, you could use full Lego minifigures if you had enough of them (I play 1:1 scale, with a 1x1 brick for a single guy, a 1x3 for a unit of three, and so on).
That's a helluva lot of terrain you've got on the table, although I can see why you've laid it out like that. Great to look at and very interesting video- do you plan to make any more?
Fantastic setup mate! Nicely painted minis, nice terrain and the "spirit of the game" are the three cornerstones to great immersive tabletop sessions IMO. Quick question though. Where did you find all your terrain? Especially the bocage, bushes and the taller trees. Would like to aquire enough terrain to make elaborate setups such as yours for skirmish games.
Cheers Onkel and it's hard to disagree with those three principles. As for your question: The taller trees are just bought from a local hobby store, a model railway shop actually. The hedgerows and bocage I made from scratch. Thanks again for your kind words
Based on the firing at around 16 minutes it looks like defenders must be touching the wall/hedge/etc to get the benefit of cover; simply being behind intervening terrain (but not touching it) doesn't reduce the number of shoot dice - is that correct?
Amazing video and outstanding tabletop....i mean....wow...... I play a similar game called operation ww2, can i ask where did you buy houses? or i you scratchbuilded them, can you explain me? Thank you so much buddy!
Hi there Giulio! Thanks for the kind comments! I'm actually a BIG fan of operation WW2. An amazing set of rules that can trigger unforgettable skirmish narratives. I'll have to play it again soon. I believe it is has an Italian author too? Personally I think it should have a larger following. The buildings are all modified a little but they're a mix of mainly Crescent Root and a ebay individual who eBay id is Williwok!
Thank you WP. Yeah operation ww2 is a really nice game, mixing all elements like "historically correct" , "minimized luck" and other stuff to create a balanced and funny game. The author is Massimo Torriani, a great guy that often responds to personal email helping you or sharing your projects. Visit " torrianigames.com "!!
Yes I played Flames of War and it can be very entertaining as a game. There are criticisms directed towards its lack of realism which might seem unfair but my problem was that large time periods can be taken up by your opponent as he activates his entire army without much interference by you his enemy. In a game like Crossfire your opponents turn seems like your own as any movement within Line of Sight of your troops generates a responsive fire and a possible turnaround of initiative. I would play Flames of War again if I had the time though. Worth looking at, especially if there are people playing it in your area.
For anyone else searching for skins, ther a some from WargamePrint, a bit more rurale, but they should do. Its just a matter of modelling them like in the videos. www.drivethrurpg.com/product/153923/Waterloo-Style-Buildings
when the Germans went into the second story building and shot down on the airborne starting with the MG team, would the airborne have fired first? By moving into position to fire the Germans would have moved into the airborne troops Los triggering reactive fire on each stand that went to the second story of the building? does the building help the Germans somehow that they get to fire first?
I'll reply to this for the benefit of anyone new to the game who is reading and trying to figure out the rules: according to section 6.2.1 of the Crossfire rulebook, movement into a structure can cause reactive fire, but movement within a structure cannot. Because the Germans entered the structure on the first floor, which is out of LOS of the enemy. It's important to note that Crossfire was designed for use with one-story buildings. John mentioned that he is using a custom rule that allows a greater line-of-sight from the second floor of a building. It's due to this custom rule that the Germans got an advantage. In normal play, either the Germans would have attracted reactive fire by entering the building, or they would not have been able to target the American troops.
Hello! loved the video, i am very curious as to what base sizes you are using for each of your units. I use 15mm since i also use them for Flames of War and Bolt Action. I do like your idea of individual bases! Every thing is gorgeous!
+kevin whisnant Hi Kevin, thanks and glad you liked it. The minis in this particular video are 20mm and I use UK 5 pence coins. I also have 15mm minis based for FoW and they are very handy for moving larger units of troops for sure :)
hi, like those dice that you're using during the game - where did you get them from - thought they might be great for my boltaction (german) army as well.
One thing confuses me. When you explained the rules for spotting, you said the American player himself could not see the troops. But wouldn't he see his opponent move them there?
The Defending players troops (in this case the Germans) begin the game on "Hidden Deployment". While the attacker (US) places his troops physically on the tabletop the German player does not. Hidden Deployment can be handled several ways. The second video demonstrates one way; using chits placed by Defending Player on the table before the game. This chits are placed under various terrain pieces, trees, animals, fields, buildings, bushes etc. This is done out of view of the Attacking player before the game. Some people use a map of the battlefield and the defending player marks on the map where his troops actually are. As the Attacking player successfully spots these areas the defender is forced to place his miniatures on the table. Or if the Attacking player stumbles into the Line Of Sight of the Defending players hidden troops (Line Of Sight that the troops on the table would have) then the defending player can interrupt the attackers movement and open fire. This is done with an attacking bonus to simulate the surprise/ambush attack. The second video probably is more helpful to display this part of the game. Hope this helps Evan.
Thanks a lot, makes a ton of sense. I just thought I saw some German troops on the table where the Americans were attempting to spot them. I guess that was just some terrain or something.
Hidden deployment or movement can be handled by Blinds (Numbered Markers on the Table either representing real troop positions or false enemy positions. During your move these "Blind Markers" are moved in proxy of real troops. The Blinds are numbered and a key to their true nature is kept hidden during play) If their movement comes within Line Of Sight of enemy positions your opponent seeing their movement can declare that he has forces in Line Of Sight of that particular Blind and in this case the Blind Marker is revealed. With the nature of movement in Crossfire (where one side maintains the initiative until it is "stolen" by the successful reactive fire of the enemy) then it can be argued that the movement mechanics of Crossfire actually simulates hidden movement very well without the use of "Blind Markers"
War Panda yeah, I understand it. While one of the players holds initiative, other can reactiave fire all he wants to and, maybe, even take initiative by it
Do you role the dice to see who takes the offensive? From what I gather, it's an offense vs defense game, and the one on the defensive gets to hide their troops. Am I correct?
I'm confused, why don't the Americans get reactive fire when the germans enter the house at 11:17, I'm new to this rule set but the germans entering the house pits them in line of sight doesn't M it?
nice video ^^ if been looking for one for a while... but im a little confused here... in the close combat part you said that the US gets a bonus for beeing veterans and sinc they are the 1st platoon they get a better commander. why are they veteran and why dont the germans get the better commander as well since (if i recall correctly) they were the 1st platoon as well.
Why the size of the squads can't be bigger? Historically, the 101st airborne squad was 12 men each, 3 squads x 12 men + mortar section of 6 men + HQ form a parachute platoon.
gogolaifa Hi, are you referring to the number of minis per stand? The ratio of men to minis is not 1:1 . The rules provide an advised basing that represents units and squads. Three minis just represents a typical wwii squad or section despite the numerical nationalistic differences etc. Skirmish Rules such as Bolt Action would have men represented 1:1
Seems a bit harsh that rifle fire can take out an MG team plus the weapon- wouldn't it be more realistic to just remove two riflemen to simulate the loss of the MG crew?
Is there a rule for when the Americans won the assault on the house that they could take the German commander and roll for intelligence on enemy positions? Like taking him as a prisoner of war. That would be a cool rule.
That sounds like a cool rule alright and it could be a rule for a scenario if the players agreed. I often add some unknown or hidden objectives if I'm umpiring a game just to spice things up
Such a beautiful map ;-; But would you say it´s payed off for you to have it? I don´t know how many different scenarios you can play on one map but it can´t be too many i think :/
+Lion Reichelt Lion, in the rules and I think generally accepted that pinned means to be "pinned down" in one place, unable to move. Suppressed could be interpreted to mean "unable to act" . In the context of the Crossfire system suppressed is a worse morale status than pinned. Hope that makes sense :)
Pinned down irl means you are in a firefight. Suppressed means you are overwhelmed by superior gunfire. When you are pinned down, you fire back, but running away is unwise. When you are suppressed, you stay the hell down until you get help.
+Robert Henderson No problem my friend :) I'm from the "darker grey" south ;) Athlone actually. I'm been living in Alberta for the past four years though (married to a Canadian lady) Let us know if you end up playing Crossfire. I'd love to make another Crossfire vid but real life is beating me back every time I try :)
The Kameleon You’re welcome. This was precisely why I decided to make these vids. When I got into tabletop gaming I’d ask what were some recommendations on rule sets. I quickly found that this is the equivalent of asking what’s the best tasting food. To really know if you’d like a game is to play it but I think watching the game played is the next best thing
I love how dense your battlefield is, I would never have considered packing so much terrain and trees into mine, but it really works.
Thanks! I really enjoy the creative side of building the battlefield. I think the rule system here helps oblige this amount of terrain too.
God bless you LindyBeige!
Ah! At last, someone who speaks British!
My God many of these rules we used 30 years ago. Great video and excellent artwork. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the kind comments
glad i stumbled upon this. great video! and i really like the rule set. i usually play flames of war, but this i think is an excellent step up at least for infantry combat. thanks very much
You're welcome :) I'm glad you liked it. I started with FoW myself. This plays very differently obviously and has become one of my favourite go to sets for representing platoon infantry engagements
so glad I found your videos on Crossfire well done
Thanks. Glad you like them
Wonderful to see such fine terrain. Best I have ever seen.
+Brian Jones Thank you for saying so Brian ;)
I know this video is 5 years old but I must say, What a fantastic diorama you've made.
Beautiful layout; excellent presentation. Thank you.
Excellent job. I love the table-top layout (good use of cows!). Great example of how a set of rules (Crossfire in this case) should be used to 'fit' your style of play. I think this video is a grand example of how we can use a set of rules, instead of following it to the letter. Excellent. I would love to see more 'casual' videos like this.
I'll be watching part 2 tonight!
Kurtus
Thanks Kurtus, glad you liked it. Hope to make a few more of these type of videos demonstrating a variety of rule sets I play. There are some excellent gaming systems that emphasize different perspectives of the battlefield.
Bloody brilliant mate!
Beautiful to look at and well explained.
I would love to start a 28mm infantry collection and use these rules.
Yes single based figures are better and add to the realism.
2019, still im waiting for more!)
first off unreal setup love the detail of the table you play on .. what scale models are you using ?
Thanks Jeremy :) The minis are 20mm
A great introduction to these rules. I can see the appeal of Crossfire now. Hope you'll be making some more videos soon.
That's an amazing looking table.
Englebert Everything thanks
Beautiful battlefield
Very realistic
Such an incredibly pretty table
Fantastic work, Panda. Used to play Crossfire years ago and this video has whet the whistle to dust off the boys and have a go. Many thanks
mcmatrix58 You’re welcome. And thanks for the kind comments.
1. How does one get into table top gaming, WW2 crossfire specifically?
2. Where do I buy the mini figures or if they are kits where do I buy the kits?
3. What is the scale?
1. i don't know
2. probably revell
3. 1/72
Well JUNTEX obviously getting the rule book is a good place to start. That's how I started. LindyBeige has some excellent vids on his channel here on UA-cam. Gives you some great advice on how to start out in the hobby and the fundamentals of Crossfire.
Crossfire also has a Yahoo Group that is always helpful to newcomers and you might discover people already playing close to where you live.
groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Crossfire-WWII/info
If you're a FB person there's also a Page here : facebook.com/groups/1105676782813076/
I buy my gear mainly online but depending on where you live there can be specializing wargaming outlets.
There is no official Crossfire scale. I play with 15mm and 20mm. The vid has 20mm. 15mm is a good alternative. Just Google Battlefront Flames of War miniatures and you'll discover a wealth of info. It is a different rule system but the hobby side is exactly the same. Their website is very helpful to the newcomer to the hobby. The basing is very similar; in fact my Crossfire 15mm are based on Flames of War stands (I've just used 3 minis instead of FoW's 4 or 5 minis per stand)
And 1:72 is roughly 20mm (depending on the manufacturer)
Best of Luck
Thank you very much for taking the time to explain this!
Your welcome JUNTEX.
No problem at all :)
I very much enjoyed these two videos, I hope to see more Crossfire in the future.
+Last Defenders I'm planning on doing some more but I'm so busy right now. I am making a vid tutorial for Iron Cross which is just released and is thought to be similiar to Crossfire
In first vid you said that one squad of Germans stayed on the first floor of the building, while two squads plus MG squad took the second floor. When the Americans close assaulted the house, would't they run into the first floor units before engaging the units on the second floor
Great Vids. Hope to see more
Please, please, please keep more pf these videos coming! Maybe a game played against somebody else, maybe more in-depth discussion of tactics, stuff like that.
I absolutely love Crossfire and I'd really love to see more of it (especially if it's presented on such an amazingly detailed table) :D
So yeah, please, more Crossfire vids. I've already subscribed so I won't miss them if you put some up ;D
Hi, thanks very much....I do intend to do that but alas life gets in the way. I will I'm sure find time to do something perhaps before or right after Christmas. Not sure if you saw my blog but it shows some pics of the Operation Crossfire game I played recently: warpanda.blogspot.ca
War Panda Awesome, then I'll have something to watch after Christmas :P
And no, I have in fact not seen your blog up to now. Thanks for pointing it out to me :)
War Panda Oh, and I'm assuming the Operation Crossfire is the event that Lloyd (aka lindybeige) staged?
That's right and a mighty fine job he did of it too
LegionaryCohort480 That's right...he did a great job I have to say
Great video on this. Thank you for producing this and putting it up for us.
Great terrain and models.
Styxx Rivers Thanks for the feedback! Glad you liked it
Great stuff and fantastic terrain!
Thanks. Glad you liked it...
Fantastic table! Very nice. I don't think I see the need for your house rule on spotting. If they lose init. when they fail the roll, that is punishment enough IMO. Especially in a scenario such as this where I assume there is a time limit for the US to achieve their objective. My two cents...but boy...what a nice table! :)
+Scott Clinton Thanks Scott.
Fuck me, this tabletop map looks beautiful.
You are most deserving of praise. Has it been featured in any of the wargaming mags.?
+Brian Jones Not to my knowledge :)
Amazing terrain and very well done video! Thanks.
Not sure if you are still playing CrossFire, but as far as I know the Close Combat rules are diferent from the way you play. In structures, the PC modifier does not count for every combat. Instead, it only contributes to a single combat (see page 16 of the rulebook). Also, squads inside a building may fire out from any direction (360). Your house rules block the Germans reactive fire, but do allow the US to enter. That seems a bit counter intuitive.
Hope that makes the fight a little easier for the Germans ;-)
you know how people are all about computer games? I look forward to the day when there are actual models that can come to life and move on their own in 3d reality that aren't holograms!
2 years later.... We're getting close with VR! Check out Brass Tactics!
That's one pretty table, War Panda
Thanks elneutino90
+War Panda love the set and minis but with the greatest respect not a fan of the system. Well delivered and presented though.
Thank you Mark :)
This is one of the most beautiful tabletops I have ever seen... Is it a modular table or a fixed scenery?
Thank you for the compliment. It is a home made drop cloth covered with independent terrain pieces and coloured sand for roads etc. I use a hand held vacuum to recollect the sand afterwards
@@JD77ATH Very impressive! I have seen the pictures on your blog as well and they looka ll really good. Maybe you could make a video when you create a new scenery? I doubt I would be the only one who would love to se how all the details come together step by step!
Why is war gaming is so crazily addictive? Haha. I love Steel Panthers on the pc, but really... it is because it is a tabletop game at its heart and so i have found myself here. Theres something about tabletop that i really like. But crossfire is particularly streamline and i like that in a tabletop experience. I am not saying its the best overall, but with my kind of lifestyle right now, if i was to play a tabletop game with someone, crossfires streamlined rulestyle looks brilliant.
cool vid and awesome terrain
Cheers Eric. Thanks for the kind comment :)
ah yess, 'tsfire' the greates game.
This a a great video, I’m really liking the Crossfire rules your using. I’m off to get a copy for myself.
I Think armored vehicles would be a great addition to the game, and be able to counter said armor with rocketer teams, or even more armors
There are armour rules but they are commonly viewed as incomplete. Some veterans of the game have tried their hand at house rules. Check out the Crossfire Yahoo Group or their Facebook Page you're interested. Personally I inserted TFL's IABSM's armour rules when I've played with armour
+AussieAnnihilation There are no official miniatures for Crossfire and I'm using a mix of various 20mm figure manufacturers. But other players use different scales: 6mm, 15mm, 28mm or even larger.
If you're looking for the rules themselves I believe they are available from Caliver Books in the UK or On Military Matters (USA
War Panda what manufacturers do you recommend to buy infantry that have decent detail like yours ? i know of some good companies that produce vehicles but for infantry im having trouble find decently detailed models ... thanks for the hlp in advance
+Jeremy Smith Sorry Jeremy, didn't see this question till now. My own personal favorite minis are 20mm AB. abfigures.com/
They are amazingly detailed and the proportions are very realistic. I like my 28mm Warlord, Artizan and Crusader too but 20mm AB are my all time favorites
War Panda I use Lego and it works fine for me! Hell, you could use full Lego minifigures if you had enough of them (I play 1:1 scale, with a 1x1 brick for a single guy, a 1x3 for a unit of three, and so on).
Wow, good idea. A clever way of representing all kinds of terrain.
That's a helluva lot of terrain you've got on the table, although I can see why you've laid it out like that. Great to look at and very interesting video- do you plan to make any more?
peezebeuponyou sooo busy with real life and lots of kids stuff which is getting in the way unfortunately. Hopefully in the future
John Dillon do it!
whats the intro music name?
Fantastic setup mate! Nicely painted minis, nice terrain and the "spirit of the game" are the three cornerstones to great immersive tabletop sessions IMO. Quick question though. Where did you find all your terrain? Especially the bocage, bushes and the taller trees. Would like to aquire enough terrain to make elaborate setups such as yours for skirmish games.
Cheers Onkel and it's hard to disagree with those three principles. As for your question: The taller trees are just bought from a local hobby store, a model railway shop actually. The hedgerows and bocage I made from scratch. Thanks again for your kind words
Based on the firing at around 16 minutes it looks like defenders must be touching the wall/hedge/etc to get the benefit of cover; simply being behind intervening terrain (but not touching it) doesn't reduce the number of shoot dice - is that correct?
Amazing video and outstanding tabletop....i mean....wow......
I play a similar game called operation ww2, can i ask where did you buy houses? or i you scratchbuilded them, can you explain me? Thank you so much buddy!
Hi there Giulio! Thanks for the kind comments! I'm actually a BIG fan of operation WW2. An amazing set of rules that can trigger unforgettable skirmish narratives. I'll have to play it again soon. I believe it is has an Italian author too? Personally I think it should have a larger following. The buildings are all modified a little but they're a mix of mainly Crescent Root and a ebay individual who eBay id is Williwok!
Thank you WP. Yeah operation ww2 is a really nice game, mixing all elements like "historically correct" , "minimized luck" and other stuff to create a balanced and funny game. The author is Massimo Torriani, a great guy that often responds to personal email helping you or sharing your projects. Visit " torrianigames.com "!!
But thanks to your video i think i will try CrossFire.
I am also tempted by flames of war.....did you played it?
Yes I played Flames of War and it can be very entertaining as a game. There are criticisms directed towards its lack of realism which might seem unfair but my problem was that large time periods can be taken up by your opponent as he activates his entire army without much interference by you his enemy. In a game like Crossfire your opponents turn seems like your own as any movement within Line of Sight of your troops generates a responsive fire and a possible turnaround of initiative. I would play Flames of War again if I had the time though. Worth looking at, especially if there are people playing it in your area.
Its so sad, that we cant get a Link from you for that marvellous printout paperskins
for the buildings.
Very beautiful table!
schneemandal yes no link available. Certain buildings created in this way are available at times from willywok on eBay
For anyone else searching for skins, ther a some from WargamePrint, a bit more rurale, but they should do.
Its just a matter of modelling them like in the videos.
www.drivethrurpg.com/product/153923/Waterloo-Style-Buildings
Great demo!
when the Germans went into the second story building and shot down on the airborne starting with the MG team, would the airborne have fired first? By moving into position to fire the Germans would have moved into the airborne troops Los triggering reactive fire on each stand that went to the second story of the building? does the building help the Germans somehow that they get to fire first?
I'll reply to this for the benefit of anyone new to the game who is reading and trying to figure out the rules: according to section 6.2.1 of the Crossfire rulebook, movement into a structure can cause reactive fire, but movement within a structure cannot. Because the Germans entered the structure on the first floor, which is out of LOS of the enemy. It's important to note that Crossfire was designed for use with one-story buildings. John mentioned that he is using a custom rule that allows a greater line-of-sight from the second floor of a building. It's due to this custom rule that the Germans got an advantage. In normal play, either the Germans would have attracted reactive fire by entering the building, or they would not have been able to target the American troops.
Hello! loved the video, i am very curious as to what base sizes you are using for each of your units. I use 15mm since i also use them for Flames of War and Bolt Action. I do like your idea of individual bases! Every thing is gorgeous!
+kevin whisnant Hi Kevin, thanks and glad you liked it. The minis in this particular video are 20mm and I use UK 5 pence coins. I also have 15mm minis based for FoW and they are very handy for moving larger units of troops for sure :)
hi,
like those dice that you're using during the game - where did you get them from - thought they might be great for my boltaction (german) army as well.
+Americarulz They're Battlefront dice. They are used for Flames of War.
thanks for the heads up
How much would you say that terrain has cost you?
One thing confuses me. When you explained the rules for spotting, you said the American player himself could not see the troops. But wouldn't he see his opponent move them there?
The Defending players troops (in this case the Germans) begin the game on "Hidden Deployment". While the attacker (US) places his troops physically on the tabletop the German player does not. Hidden Deployment can be handled several ways. The second video demonstrates one way; using chits placed by Defending Player on the table before the game. This chits are placed under various terrain pieces, trees, animals, fields, buildings, bushes etc. This is done out of view of the Attacking player before the game.
Some people use a map of the battlefield and the defending player marks on the map where his troops actually are. As the Attacking player successfully spots these areas the defender is forced to place his miniatures on the table. Or if the Attacking player stumbles into the Line Of Sight of the Defending players hidden troops (Line Of Sight that the troops on the table would have) then the defending player can interrupt the attackers movement and open fire. This is done with an attacking bonus to simulate the surprise/ambush attack. The second video probably is more helpful to display this part of the game. Hope this helps Evan.
Thanks a lot, makes a ton of sense. I just thought I saw some German troops on the table where the Americans were attempting to spot them. I guess that was just some terrain or something.
Evan Dempsey No problem Evan. Glad that helps :)
Thought of picking up these rules, but they don't look very solo-friendly- would that be a fair assessment?
How can a player not see moves he is not supposed to see? How does this work
Hidden deployment or movement can be handled by Blinds (Numbered Markers on the Table either representing real troop positions or false enemy positions. During your move these "Blind Markers" are moved in proxy of real troops. The Blinds are numbered and a key to their true nature is kept hidden during play) If their movement comes within Line Of Sight of enemy positions your opponent seeing their movement can declare that he has forces in Line Of Sight of that particular Blind and in this case the Blind Marker is revealed. With the nature of movement in Crossfire (where one side maintains the initiative until it is "stolen" by the successful reactive fire of the enemy) then it can be argued that the movement mechanics of Crossfire actually simulates hidden movement very well without the use of "Blind Markers"
War Panda yeah, I understand it. While one of the players holds initiative, other can reactiave fire all he wants to and, maybe, even take initiative by it
Excellent video. Thank you so much for posting, sir.
Quick question: what was the melody at the start of it?
+Daniel Vidny I'm sorry Daniel I can't recall the name of the melody. Thanks for the kind words
What company makes the buildings? Are they printed and glued on foamboard?
Do you role the dice to see who takes the offensive? From what I gather, it's an offense vs defense game, and the one on the defensive gets to hide their troops. Am I correct?
What's the name of the intro song?
I'm confused, why don't the Americans get reactive fire when the germans enter the house at 11:17, I'm new to this rule set but the germans entering the house pits them in line of sight doesn't M it?
nice video ^^ if been looking for one for a while...
but im a little confused here... in the close combat part you said that the US gets a bonus for beeing veterans and sinc they are the 1st platoon they get a better commander. why are they veteran and why dont the germans get the better commander as well since (if i recall correctly) they were the 1st platoon as well.
Why the size of the squads can't be bigger? Historically, the 101st airborne squad was 12 men each, 3 squads x 12 men + mortar section of 6 men + HQ form a parachute platoon.
gogolaifa Hi, are you referring to the number of minis per stand? The ratio of men to minis is not 1:1 . The rules provide an advised basing that represents units and squads. Three minis just represents a typical wwii squad or section despite the numerical nationalistic differences etc. Skirmish Rules such as Bolt Action would have men represented 1:1
Seems a bit harsh that rifle fire can take out an MG team plus the weapon- wouldn't it be more realistic to just remove two riflemen to simulate the loss of the MG crew?
Is there a rule for when the Americans won the assault on the house that they could take the German commander and roll for intelligence on enemy positions? Like taking him as a prisoner of war. That would be a cool rule.
That sounds like a cool rule alright and it could be a rule for a scenario if the players agreed. I often add some unknown or hidden objectives if I'm umpiring a game just to spice things up
+War Panda I have enjoyed watching your videos. Ty
+shane montie Cheers Shane, I'm glad you enjoyed them :)
You kinda sound like jackceptic eye ._.
YOU'LL GET CAUGHT UP IN THE
Great! What size have this table?
On the hand to hand what happens if there is a tie on the die rolls do both sides die ?? if you went over and I missed it I'm sorry
Hi Jeff, I don't think I mentioned this in the vid but in Crossfire all ties are re-rolled in Close Combat.
Awesome thank you
You're welcome
Such a beautiful map ;-;
But would you say it´s payed off for you to have it? I don´t know how many different scenarios you can play on one map but it can´t be too many i think :/
+Lion Reichelt Lion I'm constantly changing my battles that are all played on the same table
Some examples on my blog here:
warpanda.blogspot.ca/
Wow, Operation Martlet Pt I was really well put-together. Is there more?
There's some uneditied photos etc but It's not put together unfortunately...just too busy
War Panda Aw, that's too bad. I just found it now I spend all day reading and watching your videos instead of working...
Ha ha now that's a sure way of going mad :) Glad you liked them
found the panda
Nice! In truth they were rarely seen on the Normandy battlefield ;)
Yeah, they were more prevalent in the Pacific theater where people rode them into battle :p
plz do a video on your terrain
+SNIFFdade TV I'd like too :) Haven't much time unfortunately...but I'll try
Thanks
Tis an Irishman
where do you get crossfire miniatures?!
+AussieAnnihilation They're no official Crossfire minis. I use 15mm and 20mm and even 28mm minis to play...so no specific scale or size required
the 1:72 models of Revell and Ataleri are quite good
You have to be irish #Carlow
Alan Doyle sure am Alan 😊From Athlone but living in Alberta Canada for the past 8 years.
So, I´m german and I wasn´t quite sure so I googled the translations, but a ´pinned´ unit is most certainly worse than a ´suppressed´ unit afaik.
+Lion Reichelt Lion, in the rules and I think generally accepted that pinned means to be "pinned down" in one place, unable to move. Suppressed could be interpreted to mean "unable to act" . In the context of the Crossfire system suppressed is a worse morale status than pinned. Hope that makes sense :)
Pinned down irl means you are in a firefight. Suppressed means you are overwhelmed by superior gunfire. When you are pinned down, you fire back, but running away is unwise. When you are suppressed, you stay the hell down until you get help.
did you ever get round to posting the third par of this?
+Robert Henderson I didn't. It was just a small tutorial for the activations in Crossfire
+War Panda nany thanks it just was interestin that i would have liked more info as it seems very hard to find the rules now.
+Robert Henderson Here's a link to the Crossfire Website that has Links to a US and UK supplier. Hope that helps
crossfire.wargaming.info/
+War Panda many thanks for hat where n the emerald isle do you come from lol I'm from the grey North
+Robert Henderson No problem my friend :) I'm from the "darker grey" south ;) Athlone actually. I'm been living in Alberta for the past four years though (married to a Canadian lady) Let us know if you end up playing Crossfire. I'd love to make another Crossfire vid but real life is beating me back every time I try :)
What line of models are your troops from?
+Coby Brink-Li They're quite the mix. But my favorite ones are AB 20mm
Does anyone know where I can buy or download the rule book? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
War Panda Thanks a lot for the help, mate. I hope I'll get my friends hyped for the game :)
+velikiradojica No probs :) Best of luck
WHERE do I buy the corebook/whatever original rule compilation there is? All I can find online is additions n side materials. ffs
Sorry never saw this post till now...Did you check Caliver Books in UK or Military Matters?
War Panda ow, i found it. I was j's spemming it everywhere for a better chance of answer }
Why does my phone take literally several minutes to load this video? Says error, try again later apparently.
More than 12 minutes.
Where can i buy this?
How many players is this game?
+Popular Craft's Channel As many as you like really. You could split the forces into multi player each controlling a single platoon etc...
Thanks for explaining but not my cup of tea this game
The Kameleon You’re welcome. This was precisely why I decided to make these vids. When I got into tabletop gaming I’d ask what were some recommendations on rule sets. I quickly found that this is the equivalent of asking what’s the best tasting food. To really know if you’d like a game is to play it but I think watching the game played is the next best thing
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