I see that log yard in Coos Bay fill up and empty out regularly. Ships straight to China. Its disgusting to see our Forests clear cut. Then they insult us by shipping it to China.
The Oregon coast range forests have been the victims to one of the most egregious environmental catastrophe’s in history. Over the past 150 years, trees that were comparable in size to redwoods were thoughtlessly cut and turned into paper. This region has long been overdue for restoration and deserves the time to heal.
So Tillamook got drunk on the money from local logging companies and now they are overbudgeted? Sounds like local leadership should be held to account.
There is more to it than that. There are public schools in the affected counties that are fully funded by logging and do not receive state funds, where the small communities are so heavily associated with the logging industry that it would be a catastrophic loss.
@@thelastdisplay There was a news report back in March by Fox 12 Oregon about one of the schools. I tried to link it here but it looks like you can't post a link here. Go look it up, that is just one such school that is fully funded by logging.
For those in the logging industry, perhaps working with the Dept of Labor to retrain into other work? This is literally the only planet we have. The environment has long suffered and can handle no more greed.
You're right we should just let it overgrow get thick and let it all burn ... In the 70s and 80s, when we had a lot of logging going on, we still had hot temperatures. We had massive thunder and lightning storms in the summer. But we never had fires like we do now. Because we had responsible forest management.
@@PsyRen_Pelorum Actually, it's the opposite here in Oregon. When we log an area for every tree, we take out. You have to replant 3 to replace it. And if you don't take out some of the old growth it won't make room or light for the younger trees to grow. Then you have other areas where the trees are so closely compacted together that they can never grow to mount to anythey starve at each other and die and cause a fire hazard. And in trees are one of the natural resources that we have in this land That are a renewable resource. what else are we supposed to build houses out of? When we take Material to make steel from the Earth, it can't be replenished or re grown, and yes, you can say hemp but it takes way too much water to grow.
@@derekcarpenter5394 as a native Oregonian I must add a few thoughts to your common belief about the logging script. #1 "three trees are planted for every one tree taken". If one was to pay attention to the replanted trees you would know they rarely survive to amount to a quality , harvestable tree. Even if the seedling matures, to argue a seedling is a fair trade for a for a fully mature tree is simply inaccurate. There are many organisms that depend on mature trees and cannot be replanted or replaced. And finally the biggest misunderstanding in our day and age has to do with dead wood. High quality forests absolutely need a high volume of dead, "diseased" and dying wood - that is true for both agricultural and wild settings. Logging companies, in part, are going for mature trees that were previously protected from the industry because the previous actions of the industry has failed to produce wood of equal value. Ah and to live in wooden structures is a mighty fine privilege, one I like to have, but to allow the logging/fire industry to operate as it currently is makes the availability of quality wood to build with impossible. There is a balance between give and take- Oregon is proof of that. But liars and thieves ruin it for us all until we change the script. Logging is not a sustainable practice.
Loggers, managers and everybody who lives around western Oregon admits, even grudgingly, that board feet extraction has been excessive and beyond sustainable in the past. I have asked them myself. We need this reduction in harvests and realistically it is not enough.
I've seen plenty of stories where these people who harvest the forest plant two trees for everyone they cut down. So I don't know where you're coming from.
Sapling trees survive with feeding and care from parent trees through root sugar exchanges. Why plant 2 trees, the forest was at maximum density, because the expected infant mortality rate is above 50%, actually it is 90%. Clear cut areas loose their symbiotic fungal partners during the desiccation and this undermines re-establishing a forest community. Yes, you see these stories, ever heard of greenwashing? It is a recognized industry propaganda technique, apparently quite effective.@@King5HatesAmerica-iw9ln
We have plenty of resources available to us. Instead of shipping the timber out lets make things from the wood. As well as timber harvesters can go into forestry restoration
Too little too late. Coos forest is gone. It will never be a forest again in our lifetime. You can drive for miles and miles, from Bandon to Coquille and see for yourself. Doesn’t look like response logging to me… it was clear cut and is dead. And why??? So China can have some logs??? Which they burned? A handful of loggers worked for a couple days and will never work in that forest again… because it’s gone.
Look what happend when logging stopped,The Santiam Canyon was destroyed and forests were ruinrd,stop locking up the dam woods and start working with timber industry.
In the late 80's my first job out of high school was working in a sawmill. Good job for kid coming out of school. Was making decent money till the spotted owl deal hit and killed the timber industry. 100's of mills were shut down and they started exporting everything over seas. Now they want to finish the timber industry for good.
Why are we selling logs directly to China? We have a limited amount of resources and how many jobs are lost when ships come in a load whole logs.
And what about all the carbon expelled to get these logs over to China?
I see that log yard in Coos Bay fill up and empty out regularly. Ships straight to China. Its disgusting to see our Forests clear cut. Then they insult us by shipping it to China.
I think that the logs have to be debarked first. That way we are selling 'processed logs' and not 'raw logs' to China.
Didn't I hear somewhere that China has Lumber processing boats set up in international waters off of the Oregon coast?
The Oregon coast range forests have been the victims to one of the most egregious environmental catastrophe’s in history. Over the past 150 years, trees that were comparable in size to redwoods were thoughtlessly cut and turned into paper. This region has long been overdue for restoration and deserves the time to heal.
Some kids will set it all ablaze with some fireworks each year.
So Tillamook got drunk on the money from local logging companies and now they are overbudgeted? Sounds like local leadership should be held to account.
There is more to it than that. There are public schools in the affected counties that are fully funded by logging and do not receive state funds, where the small communities are so heavily associated with the logging industry that it would be a catastrophic loss.
@@heathermcbane5971 How does a public school not receive money from the state? That would make it private.
@@thelastdisplay There are some rural public schools that are fully funded by logging, it's not private. Look it up.
@@thelastdisplay There was a news report back in March by Fox 12 Oregon about one of the schools. I tried to link it here but it looks like you can't post a link here. Go look it up, that is just one such school that is fully funded by logging.
@@heathermcbane5971 Okay I will look for it.
To hell with the spotted owl even mother nature wants them gone and sent the barn owl in to finish the job
All for the greed of money.
What do you wipe with?
For those in the logging industry, perhaps working with the Dept of Labor to retrain into other work? This is literally the only planet we have. The environment has long suffered and can handle no more greed.
You're right we should just let it overgrow get thick and let it all burn ... In the 70s and 80s, when we had a lot of logging going on, we still had hot temperatures. We had massive thunder and lightning storms in the summer. But we never had fires like we do now. Because we had responsible forest management.
@@PsyRen_Pelorum Actually, it's the opposite here in Oregon. When we log an area for every tree, we take out. You have to replant 3 to replace it. And if you don't take out some of the old growth it won't make room or light for the younger trees to grow. Then you have other areas where the trees are so closely compacted together that they can never grow to mount to anythey starve at each other and die and cause a fire hazard. And in trees are one of the natural resources that we have in this land That are a renewable resource. what else are we supposed to build houses out of? When we take Material to make steel from the Earth, it can't be replenished or re grown, and yes, you can say hemp but it takes way too much water to grow.
@@crushedorchids Wow thats all you got . Guess you can always build a mud hut
What kind of house do you live in? almost sounds like glass
@@derekcarpenter5394 as a native Oregonian I must add a few thoughts to your common belief about the logging script. #1 "three trees are planted for every one tree taken". If one was to pay attention to the replanted trees you would know they rarely survive to amount to a quality , harvestable tree. Even if the seedling matures, to argue a seedling is a fair trade for a for a fully mature tree is simply inaccurate. There are many organisms that depend on mature trees and cannot be replanted or replaced. And finally the biggest misunderstanding in our day and age has to do with dead wood. High quality forests absolutely need a high volume of dead, "diseased" and dying wood - that is true for both agricultural and wild settings. Logging companies, in part, are going for mature trees that were previously protected from the industry because the previous actions of the industry has failed to produce wood of equal value. Ah and to live in wooden structures is a mighty fine privilege, one I like to have, but to allow the logging/fire industry to operate as it currently is makes the availability of quality wood to build with impossible. There is a balance between give and take- Oregon is proof of that. But liars and thieves ruin it for us all until we change the script. Logging is not a sustainable practice.
Right now they are cutting trees as fast as they possibly can before any measure like this goes into effect.
Loggers, managers and everybody who lives around western Oregon admits, even grudgingly, that board feet extraction has been excessive and beyond sustainable in the past. I have asked them myself. We need this reduction in harvests and realistically it is not enough.
I've seen plenty of stories where these people who harvest the forest plant two trees for everyone they cut down. So I don't know where you're coming from.
Sapling trees survive with feeding and care from parent trees through root sugar exchanges. Why plant 2 trees, the forest was at maximum density, because the expected infant mortality rate is above 50%, actually it is 90%. Clear cut areas loose their symbiotic fungal partners during the desiccation and this undermines re-establishing a forest community. Yes, you see these stories, ever heard of greenwashing? It is a recognized industry propaganda technique, apparently quite effective.@@King5HatesAmerica-iw9ln
Sure hope we maintain fire breaks and such... otherwise this will be all for nothing.
We have plenty of resources available to us. Instead of shipping the timber out lets make things from the wood. As well as timber harvesters can go into forestry restoration
Reinstate the Homestead Act.
It's the people's land. Let us develop it (with some guidance)
at least with timber industry-it would be wood we have -not charcoal
STOP DEFORESTATION!!!
Lol 😵💫😫
Too little too late. Coos forest is gone. It will never be a forest again in our lifetime. You can drive for miles and miles, from Bandon to Coquille and see for yourself.
Doesn’t look like response logging to me… it was clear cut and is dead.
And why??? So China can have some logs??? Which they burned?
A handful of loggers worked for a couple days and will never work in that forest again… because it’s gone.
Look what happend when logging stopped,The Santiam Canyon was destroyed and forests were ruinrd,stop locking up the dam woods and start working with timber industry.
In the late 80's my first job out of high school was working in a sawmill. Good job for kid coming out of school. Was making decent money till the spotted owl deal hit and killed the timber industry. 100's of mills were shut down and they started exporting everything over seas. Now they want to finish the timber industry for good.