200+wpm with this? | Stenography & Plover
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Stenography is a machine shorthand for court room transcription and captioning live TV broadcasts! Professional stenographers write at 180 to 220wpm to keep up with the human speech. Today I'll be talking about learning stenography at home with the open-sourced program Plover, how steno works and how you can steno at home with your own keyboard too.
Thank you Peter for sending me your steno uni v2 keyboard!
www.stenokeyboards.com/produc...
Download Plover here!
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Aerick's video: • "Typing" at 150+ WPM |...
Learning resources:
www.artofchording.com
sites.google.com/site/learnpl...
didoesdigital.com/typey-type/
joshuagrams.github.io/steno-jig/
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:59 - Speed demonstration by Aerick and Jean
02:58 - Stenography vs Speech-to-Text
03:20 - Learning steno professionally is expensive
04:08 - How exactly does it work? The steno order
05:12 - The missing keys
06:17 - The asterisk and hashtag key
07:01 - Briefs
08:18 - Steno is fun!
09:02 - How to steno at home
11:04 - Learning resources
12:09 - Extras + outro
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Thank you so much for this amazing video!!! It's already two months old, but no one told me about it, so I had to get it recommended to me by UA-cam, haha. But I absolutely love the way you explain steno in such a clear and enthusiastic way. My heart is absolutely glowing right now. I'm gonna post about this video on the Plover Blog tomorrow!! Thank you again!
You're an absolute goddess for starting off plover. Thank you for all of your work!
@@tokaku kaku
@@funni9346 kaku
bundala mi caca
You post a comment and Instantly a giant paragraph apears
imagine just arguing with a professional stenographer and they start roasting you at 180+ wpm
Just imagine they typed a 50+ words sentence then you're about to reply, then they send another 50+ words sentence shortly
@@auatom- You won the game but lost the trash talk...
Unacceptable
Must learn steno
@@flordelphinta gotta get 2 table to quickly switch keyboard, rap battle in game
Their typing normally, then you get them angry and suddenly you have 6 paragraphs about why you're wrong
i usually hit 300+ wpm in court! ;)
an osu! community and steno community crossover is something I never thought would happen, love to see it
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Love ur vids graf!
what are you doing here lol
lol pierwszy raz cię widzę u tokaku XDD
Przepraszam, że to pisze ale..... Kiedy UHC?
@@upadygold5113 nigdy graf nie gra w mc juz
I'm so happy you are promoting steno and plover. More people getting into hobbyist stenography is a good thing
sakamoto!
ryujin!
@@themelancholyofgay3543 YES SOMEONE WHO WATCHED OR READ NICHIJOU 😸😸😸
hi koneko
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Really good vid tbh. Will probably never try steno, but I definitely know a lot more about it now!
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so is no one going to talk about her steno dictoonary
"cum"
@@xavierjarvis588 wot?
@@dt3338 8:00 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
also there's daddy
Hey man, if she wants to ERP with steno thats her business
🤣🤣🤣 man that scares, someone coming across my steno dictionary
i like how you go from "ok, i need to edit my video faster, how?" to "yes, stenography"
I'm crying over the conversation with those typos
I can only imagine how quick the discord general chat is on that discord server 😳
lmao i just thought about that. i'm a typist and i belong to many typing servers. they're all pretty fast at times, but i think the steno server would be on another level.
I’m in the discord server and they are mostly on mobile while using discord.
oh hey it's the destiny 1 glitching guy, o/
she has discord on light mode xD
@@eyan2628 :>
Can we talk about how a rhythm game UA-camr made the best video explaining how steno works. None other explain it well
I've tried both Colemak and Plover for a long time, and for me, the problems outweighed the benefits. Colemak feels good with the "rolling", but it's just a pain to re-map the controls for every program and game, and I can't touch-type if I use someone else's computer. Plover is really fun, especially with a custom keyboard (I use the Georgi Steno). Still, the increase in speed just isn't worth all the effort for me.
Edit on 1/25/2023 (Original comment from 6/3/2021):
I have gotten back into steno, and I've changed my mind. I have decided that speed and comfort of steno is much better than any keyboard layout. I can do 100wpm in qwerty, so it is no big deal if I need to switch.
yeah, it definitely works best as a hobby than a one size fit all replacement for qwerty. Not all skills or hobbies need to be super practical!
I use a modified Colemak layout on my Ergodox, which has open source easily modifiable firmware. I can type at my old 120WPM after a couple of months of use and I'm one keypress away from using QWERTY for games and such, which is easy to remember after nearly 20 years of using it.
This. I used Dvorak for about 2 weeks because typing too much with qwerty actually hurts my hand a little, but wow the transition is painful and the remapping and back to qwerty when using other computer. Now I'm just using something similar to HHKB layout + standard qwerty. Only need to remember I changed 4 buttons
Honestly swapping back to qwerty isn't too bad for me. Every now and then I forget to do it, but I would just switch back to qwerty for games. (windows+space). You don't need to remap everything that way. Also some games just remap it for you already.
@@nathanlam4570 I use QWERTY on my phone, so I never get rusty on it even though I use Colemak. And even though I used to be able to touch type at 120wpm on QWERTY, I don't mind only getting 80-100wpm when I sit down at someone else's computer and have to look in between the screen and the keys occasionally. I don't really get what all the fuss is about.
Really cool to see this video made! I'm the daughter of a judge and I used to be obsessed with the steno machines at my dad's workplace. I'd seen a bit of info on steno and plover before but this has finally inspired me to go out and buy my own and start learning!
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Honestly, you have no idea how much "quality of life" producing sentences efficiently on a computer is. I don't do steno, but I'm a professional Dvorak layout typist and the times before I got into typing are still fresh in my memory.
I am much happier being able to type at 140wpm+ whenever I want/need, than back when i could only type at 60wpm. Using the computer is now so satisfying, and even a little relaxing. And of course, trash talking kids on FPS games lets me just absolutely fucking UNLOAD A STREAM OF INSULTS while the kid is still trying to find the letter "u".
So yeah, even if you ever give up on steno for any reason, I recommend trying regular typing - it is much easier, pretty much 100% intuitive of course, and yeah, there are just as many, if not more, resources for learning professional typing. Join a server that corresponds to the layout of your choosing (even if you never intend to try proper typing, what tokaku said is actually really important - join the steno server! Even if you don't have any questions now, there is a lot of info and tips you'll be able to obtain from the server!)
I'm really happy that people are getting into steno, because as we progressively use computers more, it becomes more and more important that we are able to "fluently use" the machines. It's just a super practical skill, even if technically past a certain wpm it holds no real "practical advantage".
But, in my opinion being able to type at 150wpm+ is still practically beneficial. Why? Because if you're studying at university, or undertaking any sort of intense academic course, typing fast will allow you to easily "transcript" the lectures/lessons, allowing you to take accurate notes which you will be able to shorten later. Too many times did I have the teacher talk too fast for my wpm.
@@TechSupportDave that wall of text really proves your point lol
@@stymlice2332 POV: he typed it in 30 seconds
@@TechSupportDave Yeah, being able to type at a decent speed is definitely helpful. Maybe it is much better on dvorak, but I wouldn't want to do 150wpm for a big stretch of time, though. Seems like it'd be hard on the hands after a while. That's one advantage of steno is it uses much less hand movements to get to the same speed.
As someone who is a poor typer but a fast learner, I think this would be pretty cool to try and learn
Go for it! I never learned to type properly on qwerty, so I didn’t have to unlearn anything
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer Thanks for your encouragement, I’ll definitely give it a go and I wish myself the best!
good luck! this video has me excited to learn steno even as a relatively fast qwerty typer
@@you_key how is your progress?
@@mugumugi911 I still haven’t attempted it as I was focusing on on qwerty so I could learn how to do my assignments on a school laptop quickly, your comment reminded me I should really get to attempting steno lol
This is probably one of the most comprehensive intro videos to steno I've seen, and really well produced.
I really need to get back to learning it, but I keep hitting a wall.
i’ve always had an interest in stenography! thank you for bringing attention to it and showing how broke pleps like me can learn! :,)
Good video. You're one of the few people who actually provide accurate information regarding stenography. I am a stenographer and learned using the StenEd Realtime theory. Learning steno can be extremely overwhelming, but like you mentioned, you are basically learning a whole new language. Also, going from a QWERTY keyboard to a steno keyboard and vice versa is a weird feeling LOL.
how do you change between the two?
And, is your qwerty speed lower than normal?
like, i want to be able to learn steno, however i don't want to lose my ability with normal keyboards (due to fear of it decreasing my ability in computer multiplayer games)
@@99temporal Most people get a new keyboard for steno (professionals like OP especially; the keys on their "keyboard"s are more like a piano's and are better for chording), so you use one keyboard for steno and one for QWERTY/Dvorak/etc.
If you're using an NKRO keyboard, it's one click to disable Plover temporarily.
Steno is different enough from regular typing that one doesn't override the other in your brain. I can't attest about slower touch-typing due to lack of practice though.
Yeah, I agree that steno is different enough from regular typing that it shouldn't mess you up when you use a normal keyboard. It isn't just that keys are in different spots, you actually write in a totally different way by doing a syllable or word at a time.
Paul, one nice thing if you want to explore Plover is that its default dictionary is mostly based on StenEd (though I think you could import your own dictionary form work). It can do arbitrary shortcuts based on briefs, so you can have briefs to do copy, paste, launch programs, etc.
I’ve always wanted to learn this, thank you for promoting Plover! :D
Imagine someone sweating and raging over steno 😂
everyone gangsta till they start typing your location in steno
@@whatisthis2809 i don't think they're serious
@@AJTheInvisibleGirl i couldn't tell, idk why i just sometimes have a hard time telling if a reply if being serious or not
@@whatisthis2809 New to the internet?
@@mist3325 "what is this
joined 7 years ago"
Yes i am new
Thanks a lot for linking my video in the description and showing one of my videos! It put a nice blip in my analytics and added some life into my channel!
convinced me to start learning steno within 10 min. Great video and thank you for exposing me to an amazing hobby!
i type like 100+ wpm and my highest ever is like 150 wpm. this steno thing looks really fucking cool and i struggle to see how it's done
I mean consider if every other word you wrote was shortened to an abbreviation? You could probably reach much higher speeds too.
95wpm here :D
100 - 120 wpm person here :D
**cries in 55wpm on both real keyboard AND iPad**
since when did this get 160 likes tf??
i love how you said “google captions are terrible” and captions are turned off
it's not off on mobile tho
it’s not off on mobile and the google’s speech to text was accurate despite her accent
@@marblesoda._. yeah, they were literally flawless except for missing punctuation marks
i turn captions on as soon as she said that and essentially for the rest of the video they were completely accurate lol
@@Punched0 they work horrible on my casual videos where I don't read a script into a mic slowly and carefully. Especially my rhythm games tierlist video, 'osu' became 'also' and a ton of other garbled text
I've been thinking about learning steno for a while now. It's nice to see a video promoting it and how to get into it. Thank you!
Stenographers are not actually typing on a keyboard. The are playing sad piano music for the accused.
I prefer the 88 keys on an actual piano.
i randomly got recommended some steno videos a while back, but it really confused me cause nobody in those videos ACTUALLY explained how steno works. this is the first video where i feel like it's actually starting to make sense. also funny cause i know of you from osu vids so really random to see a video about stenography here lol
Ayyyyy! As a current steno student this was super exciting to see
Had trouble finding a video that really detailed how this works and showed examples. Thanks for a great and informative video :)
I've seen a lot of Steno lately and then your video come out, thanks for the knowledges
I'm someone who spends a lot of their life typing when it comes to socializing. So naturally, I am extremely interested in anything that increases my typing speed. Just literally learned about the existence of a stenographer keyboard today, and just the idea of "a keyboard meant for faster wpm" had me. This video is the perfect way to introduce it all to me, including the explanation of what it is how it works, and even "home-ified" casual situations that I can see myself using it in, considering I don't have an interest in using it in a professional setting.
Even though I will never in my life use one of these keyboards they are still pretty cool to see in action
This is so cool! I didn’t know more people were getting into this! Thanks for this video ☺️
Outstanding video. Really really well made. Thanks for taking the time to do this so nicely
That's a pretty good overview of steno (and specifically Plover) :)
As for arpeggiating, I personally think that going that route to find out if Plover/stenography is something for you first is a good call, because then it costs literally nothing.
Also, I might or might not be stealing the "direction" steno typos, they're hilarious
can we all appreciate her custom words at 8:00?
dadddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy
K*UPL
I was supposed to get into stenography and plover a while ago with a friend but life got in the way... Thank you for reminding me about it!
Nice video. I've been thinking about getting into steno for a while and this has pushed me over the edge :D
Great Plover & steno overview!
Thanks for the excellent intro to steno. I was hoping to find more info on diy steno keyboards, but it seems pretty rare! Thanks to the link about your V2, I just backed the Kickstarter, though I would have preferred a DIY version!
I just bought the EcoSteno and really like it. I think it is supposed to re-stock next month some time. Can always sign up for their newsletter. The layout is very similar to regular steno machines, the switches are super light actuation (which you want for chording), keys very close together to make hitting multiple keys with one finger, easy, etc. Even has a tripod thread on the bottom. I had an old camera tripod I wasn't using, so I can be all official with the positioning of it lol
I have been lurking on plover for years now. Glad to see this.
That's awesome. Hype and looking forward for you to get faster on the stenography machine.
OMG FINALLY STENOGRAPHY IN THE MAIN CHANNEL
Let's talk about K*UPL TKAED 8:00 :^)
i was just about to say smthn about that lmao
didnt think anyone else noticed that besides me, lmao
I wanted to come back to this video, and I happened to catch your statement about google speech to text so thought I'd turn on automatic captions, and the next two minutes were spot on, minus punctuation. Pretty cool.
Thanks for answering why some news stations have glitchy subtitles.
They need to make something like this for programmers.
underrated comment, this would be really useful
She should play parappa the rapper or samba de amigo
no
Really cool. Thanks for sharing.
This video was really educational! I'd love to try this out.
Next video: I played osu with a steno keyboard lmaoo
Is stenography is for english only?
Considering english is not my main language and in Indonesia we basically blend multiple languages in a single sentence and the fact that Indonesian (and it's local languages) have a different phonology it might be hard to use here.
This was cool. Never thought much about stenography before. Thanks!
You really explained plover in a simple and understandable step hy step process. Made me interested in continuing my pursue in stenography. I really like to type fast hahaha
This could be really good for other applications like programming where there are much smaller dictionaries to be used. Super cool!
Though I learned Stenography during my high school days, my fastest was around 70 wpm. That was handwritten shorthand. No typing.
I activated the autogenerated subtitle when you say speech to text is bad, but it's funnily spot on lol
this is genuinely really cool, the speed is insane if you get good at it which is crazy to me
Ironically, I turned on the auto generated subtitles and it was pretty accurate to be honest. Occasionally it gets long words wrong or confuses “their”, “there” and “the” but that’s about it.
Yeah people act like the automatic translations are NEVER going to be replacing humans, but honestly it is probably going to be capable enough within the next 5-10 years. After recording a court hearing there are still plenty of errors in a stenographer's work and they have to go back and clean it up. At some point there is going to be a cost analysis that shows it is much cheaper to just record the hearing with Speech to Text and pay someone to clean that up, instead of paying someone to take the notes AND THEN pay them to do the same clean up work. The question is what % accuracy do we need for that to be the case?
@@TheOldSchoolCrisis Stenographers are 15% more accurate. And you are 40% more efficient if you take notes in the room instead of taking them from audio later. There are many reasons why trusting the computer won't replace a human. At the end of the day, the court reporter's job would still be to watch the voice recognition and yell at you if you aren't speaking clear enough.
Find me a way to get this working with Typing of the Dead and I'll learn it in a weekend.
Plover can be used with any program, games like Typing of the Dead included 😉
I laughed out loud until I started coughing at “dacryocystis”. Thanks for the awesome video! I’m just getting interested in steno and your video was a great motivator to keep going
TIL about steno, extremely well-done explanation! WHAOEUT
Imagine Eminem in court rapping while a stenographer tries to keep up
wait... is that an OMORI PROFILE PICTURE??
*my opinion of you has risen exponentially*
the omori fans risen even more
I saw this onstream multiple times, I'm so proud of myself
Steno is something I think many people have heard about but never really known how it works or what the magic behind it is, thanks for making this video! I'll be sure to subscribe and check out future updates on your steno progress if you feel like keeping us updated :D (also discord in white mode what the hell I've never seen that hahaha)
Question: how is it switching between a regular keyboard and a steno one? Do you get mixed up all the time when you jump between the two or are you still earlier in the learning phase to really know for certain?
Seems unlikely since you are pressing multiple buttons and regular keyboards being staggered. Probably different enough to not mix it up in your brain.
yeah, this. Though on a normal keyboard right now, I'm starting to get frustrated that 'remember' isn't just pressing down 'RER' at once pffff
steno really makes things easier when you're used to it
Oh yes, finally a keyboard to flex my Osu Mania skills in chat
This is so interesting - thank you for a really clear introduction to steno! It's so cool to watch you typing, too.
Your comment about accent reminded me of this- I teach ESOL to adult immigrants in the US, and in 2020 when classes moved to zoom, my students often wanted to turn on Zoom's live captions. The technology just isnt there yet. Everyone has an accent - the captions messed up my Boston accent just as much as the accents of non-native English speakers!
great vid ! very informative
“Dvorak, Coleman, Workman... even if you were fast on them”
*Sweats in qwerty 180-220*
I think QWERTY can be considerably fast if you use techniques to reduce SFU and don't care about comfort.
@@parnikkapore Oh, 100%, a bunch of monkeytype’s top registered typists (200-240 over 60 seconds) run QWERTY. At 160-210, myself, I’m not all too uncomfortable even with suboptimal technique considering I only use three fingers on one hand
Just keep in mind that steno is going to be a lot easier on your hands at the same speeds. If you ever end up in a situation where you need to type fast for longer stretches of time, steno really shines in that case.
don't be shy about your accent, your English sounds very clear and in general it sounds super cute
i didn't know steno was training traction in hobbyist communities, this makes me really happy! it's so cool!!!!!
i was in the editing stream and i like this video thanks tokaku 👍👍👍👍👍
>light mode discord
my eyes are literally bleeding Q_Q
Overused joke but okay haha
@@unknownuser1013 that's not a joke at all
@@amirnuriev9092 EXACTLY, it's a serious crime 😐
So if I use this, my academic performance will increase by 40%
it will increase way more than that. well, the note-taking part at least. being able to transcript lessons is like a GODLY skill to have. I wish i knew steno 3 years ago because I had some really big 20-hr exams that were nothing but typing on a computer so i could have absolutely shredded the exam with it. Well, a bit too late now but I think steno is still worth learning. And if you don't like it, professional typing is still an option.
@@TechSupportDave yeah
@@TechSupportDave Actually, I said 40% as a Death Note reference 😅
@@IcyTorment true, but either way typing fast is going to be of at least some "quality of life" benefit, not exclusively relating to taking notes.
for instance, texting friends while playing a competitive video game. well, there are many random uses like this which one only uncovers as they keep using their computer.
Lol, your steno speed is already faster then my regular typing speed! Seems like this would have been better to learn than traditional typing/ keyboarding. Thanks!
I though you were using a typewriter when I saw the thumbnail
Chinese typing layouts have been using similar systems for years. Quite interesting that steno is hidden like that in the western world. But maybe that's exactly because Chinese isn't really meant to be typed that people came up with very efficient ways to type it
Yea. Some use a pronunciation of the character, but some use the components that make up the character, like this:
Full word;
媽
女；
馬；
Steno sounds really cool! I'm hoping I can give it a try in the near future.
Didn't expect this to be out so soon.
So its basically a keyboard with the best autocorrect
Kind of... though I'd say it is more like text expansion macros that you type with one press. It is deterministic vs autocorrect that usually isn't 100% sure and needs intervention to pick the right thing.
K*UPL
Thanks, I had no idea how this system worked b4 this vid. God bless
This is awesome. I kept getting distracted from the Bistrover video feed behind you haha
Light discord, I was rolling on the floor with a buzzing sound in my ears for at least a couple of minutes
Thank you for actually explaining steno and even how to get into steno, every other YT video does not explain steno well at all
7:20 haha p0rn
that custom dictionary is quite sus
cum
@@starletscarlet daddy
Awesome you're into this! I've been in the discord for a few months as this is gonna be my summer project :)
In the meantime Colemak (DH) does the job ;)
It’s crazy that the speech to text captions on this video is actually really accurate lmao
8:00 0_0
K*UPL TKAED!
@@DriftJunkie TKAEPL...
"Steno isn't a code"
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"Steno is basically a way to code language phonetically"
Alrighty then.
At the core, it is like a text expansion macro thing on steroids. I think they mean it isn't like morse code where you are just expressing letters in a different form. Here, you're encoding full syllables and words. It also doesn't have to be any one thing, since what is in the dictionary is up to you. There's set keys and the way they are laid out in a certain order is also set. But how that translates to words or computer commands is more variable.
Just to give an example in "real world" steno, there are different steno "theories". Phoenix theory tries to be very strictly phonetic. A certain sound is always stroked the same way, and so words with more syllables take more strokes to write out. Magnum theory is the opposite end of the spectrum, where they have a lot of shortcut strokes ("briefs") for common words and phrases. Phoenix requires less memorizing but takes more finger movements to be at a certain speed while Magnum needs less finger movements but more memorizing. StenEd theory (which Plover theory is mostly based on) is more in the middle. Mostly phonetic but with a bunch of shortcuts you can optionally use too.
Even in the case of commercial theories like Phoenix and Magnum, they have a philosophy and a default dictionary, but you can still add or change anything you want in your own dictionary once you're out of school.
@@ShawnFumo That still sounds like it's a code.
You can call it whatever you want if that makes you feel better, but that doesn't change the fact that you're encoding something into something else. Just because the start and the end both are strings of characters that doesn't somehow make it not a code. Having to apply a dictionary to translate from/to means it's a code.
I don't know/use Steno, but I am a programmer and I know a code when I see one. :)
@@ayporos I mean sure, it is definitely an encoding of a sort. I was just saying why I think she said what she did.
I've always wondered how you play a game like "Steno Arcade" on steam. This makes so much more sense!
I don't think I'll ever try steno but I really enjoyed this video and it was really interesting to learn about it!
Nobody's gonna talk about the light theme discord
We've already gone though this 😔
nobody is talking about the cursed discord light mode
I turned on automatic captions on this video and the captions were perfect!
I had no idea how this worked, fascinating.
I was blinded by this video.. di- dis - discord light mode
Oh no.. I’m going blind.. Discord light theme..
this looks fun!