Door height adjustment. IG doors, Truedoor. Cant find the height screw?
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- Please read this description as I’ll probably note things here that may help you that aren’t shown in the video. I have a Truedor (only one ‘o’) front door from IG Doors and it’s fitted with what I think might be Trojan 3D hinges. The hinges are, in my opinion, about the worst hinges I’ve ever come across. Maybe somebody loves them but I don’t. There is no provision for height adjustment only height locking!! In this video I show how the adjustments work but unfortunately there is no fine screw adjustment to raise or lower the door, instead you have to manually lift the door yourself, and again, unfortunately the locking bolt that serves to lock the hight position is the same locking bolt that locks the sideways position of the door. In other words, you have to adjust two dimensions simultaneously. You’ll see in the video that there is a sprung steel cover on the back of the hinge that has to be removed to access the locking bolt. When adjusting the height of the door the locking bolt of every hinge has to be slackened to allow the door to be raised or lowered. Remember you have to lift the door yourself; the screw doesn’t do that for you, it only locks the position once you have set it! I raised the door with a bolster chisel and block of wood and then I jammed three thin bladed paint scrapers under the door, one on top of the other to hold the door at the desired heigh. The 6mm hexagon headed shaft can be accessed from above or below, you could be forgiven for thinking that they are two different adjustments like other hinges but they are both on the end of one common shaft. Adjusting the backwards and forwards position of the door is reasonably obvious but the height adjustment seems to have a lot of folks flummoxed and I must admit I had to have a hinge in my hand to work out exactly how it worked. When you adjust the side-to-side position of the door the central socket screw has to be undone enough to allow the moveable part of the mechanism to ‘click’ past the grooves and peaks of the indentations on the fixed part of the hinge. Anyway, I hope that helps someone. Kind Regards . . . Andy
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Thank you Andy for taking the time to share. Saved me some time. Cheers.
Thanks for the feedback.
Regards. . . Andy
I just bought a house with these hinges on the front door. This is the exact information I was looking for. Thank You 🙏
Fantastic video! My grandparents asked me to look at their front door as it had dropped over the years meaning they struggled to open and shut it. After a good hour of struggling to find a way to adjust the height, I stumbled across this video which had all the answers. Needless to say they were over the moon. Thank you!
Hey that's fantastic, thanks for the feedback. Well done on helping the folks out. I'm glad to have been able to help you.
Regards . . . Any
You Sir are a scholar and a gent! I’ve been baffled by these hinges for an age and your video has helped me get my door adjusted in mere minutes. I’m forever grateful that you put this video out there as I couldn’t find anything about them prior.
Hey, thanks for the feedback. I'm really pleased that I have been able to help you.
All the best . . . Andy
Thankyou for taking the time to do this video - it was really helpful. I agree about the poor design.
Thanks, it's great to know that it's helpful.
Regards . . . Andy
After a Sky engineer was too rough with our new front door, the top edge of the door was butting into the frame. Would have to lift the door to close and open it. Found your video and it helped me solve the problem in under 10 minutes. What a legend you are Andy!
Hi I'm really so pleased to have helped you, thanks for letting me know. All the very best.
Kind regards . . . Andy
Sincere thanks Andy. Been struggling with these hinges on my front door, watched a few other vids with similar hinges, but these were not much help. Yours is clear and concise and I believe I should now be able to solve the problem. Keep up the good work.
Hi there, thanks for the feedback. Sometimes when I make a video like this I think to my self, 'Am I wasting my time, will it actually help anyone???' So its great to be getting so many folks coming back to me to say thank you and letting me know how they got on. I figure there are probably a lot of folks who get the help but never comment. Let me know how it goes. Just out of interest, I wonder what part of the world you are in??
Kind regards . . . Andy
@@AndyDaviesByTheSea Hi again Andy. Everything went well and door is now working properly. I did invest in a pair of inflatable wedges, which made the whole thing much easier. I would suggest the you do too, they certainly do their job. I live in Hereford, by the way. take care, and, as I said before, keep up the good work.
Hi, Well done, I'm glad that you got it sorted out OK. Regards . . . Andy
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Hey, thanks for the feedback. I couldn't find anything either so that's why I made the video, and I'm glad that I did as it seems to have helped a lot of folks get over a really annoying problem. Good luck with the fix!!
Kind regards . . . Andy
Thanks for this video. Got this hinge on my front door. It’s not great. But now adjusted the door is no longer hard to open. Life saver you are.
Excellent video. Actually needed it twice because l had forgotten just how poor the hinges are when the door needed adjustment again. I found a pack of window spacers were great for holding the door in position during final adjustment.
Hi Andy J, well I'm glad I've been able to help you. Hopefully UA-cam will keep this video live to help others for a long time. It would be good to think that after I'm dead and gone some of my videos could still be helping folks. I'm not planning on leaving this mortal coil just yet but remember anything that you put on the web could be around for a long time. Thanks for the feedback, it's always nice to know that the effort is helping folks. Kind Regards . . . Andy D
This video helps a lot. Thanks...... These hinges are the worst.
Great video I have a door that’s caused me so much frustration trying to adjust the height.
You are a star many many thanks for a great explanation
Top man
Hey, sorry for the late response, I hope you've got it fixed now.
Regards . . . Andy
Yes I have fixed it thanks to your video explanation.
The door now closes the best it has in ten years.
I have tried umpteen times to lift the door in the past without success.
Many thanks
Paul
Brilliant been trying to adjust mine for weeks couldn’t find the hidden height adjust used air wedges to set height with hinges released 👍
Thanks for the feed back. Man these hinges can drive you nuts. It took me ages to realise what I was looking for simply wasn't there!!
All the best.
Regards . . . Andy
My door hzs stuck for 17 yrs. I do not havr these hinges but your video inspired me to look for a way to adjust the hinges and now it works perfectly.
That's Fantastic James!! Well done, I'm really pleased to have been able to help you. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone chose to help one another wherever they are in the world?
Thanks for letting me know, its great to get such good results reported from so many people. Kind regards . . . Andy
Great work, I've got these rubbish hinges on my door which needed raising brilliant solution described. Thanks
Our garage side door had become misaligned, wouldn't lock and I couldn't see how to adjust it until I found your video. A few minutes work and it now locks. The installer hadn't tightened the lowest hinge locking screw and this was probably the root cause of problem.
An additional benefit is that I now know the hinge type if I need to replace a hinge. Many thanks for posting a great video.
Man I'm really glad I made the video, and glad that so many folks are finding it. I can't imagine why anyone would make a hinge like that.
Thanks for taking the trouble to let me know that I helped.
Regards . . . Andy
Great video Andy. I paid for a “door specialist to fix this problem and he didn’t have a clue! So I got a neighbour to do exactly as you described.
One thing I will add is, after adjusting the door, if the locking latches don’t locate or are tight, you can correct them by adjusting the Allen screws in the doorframe.
Like all the other comments I struggled for hours trying to sort out these dam hinges then discovered your video.Fantastic and solved my problem! Well done
Hi I'm glad to have helped you. I'm an engineer and I've had half a lifetime designing and building complicated process machines and I couldn't believe how bad these hinges were. I was looking everywhere for the missing adjustment screw. I've employed a lot of design engineers and if any of my guys had come up with this design we would have parted company very quickly.
All the best and thanks for the feedback.
Regards . . . Andy
Thanks for the video. Spent all morning trying to find instructions for this hinge!
I've been using a skateboard for weeks to lift the door up so I can actually lock it. Thanks for this video!!
Hey, I reckon that would have made a good video, using a skate board to lift the door, you could send it to the manufacture of the blessed hinge manufacture. I'm glad I was able to help you out.
All the best and thanks for your comment. . . Regards . . . Andy
Amazing video and our door which has been sticking for a long time now opens as it when it was new.
Thank for the video
Hi, thanks for letting me know how you got on, that's great. You would think that the hinge manufacturer would have made some sort of explanatory video, but I guess if they hadn't got the sense to add a height adjusting screw, then they wouldn't dream of trying to help anyone with an explanation. All the very best . . . . Andy
Spot on👍I could not work out how to raise the door ,this video helped enormously
Thanks Colin for letting me know.
Regards . . . Andy
Thank you - my expensive garage side door came with these hinges under the name of Allugard (think that’s spelled right) door has gone out of true, frame not square etc. and I have been hunting high and low for some instructions - you sir have saved the day. I didn’t figure out the little cover plate and locking screw.
That's fantastic, I get a real buzz out of knowing that I have been able to help so many folks so easily. Thanks for taking the time to let me know. All the best my friend. Kind regards . . . Andy in the UK
Great video thanks for sharing. Didn't realise there were hidden adjustments until I saw this!
Thanks Andy, after having someone come to re-adjust the door and not having a clue what to do. I'll be trying to correct myself after watching this.
Hi, if you look at the comments below you'll see that there seems to be quite a few fitters/installers who have struggled to work out how to adjust these hinges. I think it's a bit like designing a bicycle that only turns left, and if you want to go right you have to get off it manually and point it in the direction that you want to go.
Good luck.
All the best . . . Andy
Thanks for the clear explanation - just off to look at my daughters front door!
Glad to help! Hope that you've got it fixed now. Regards . . . Andy
Thanks mate, Saturday morning scratching my head how to get the slab up. Spot on mate 👍🏻
Thanks Wayne, isn't it great when you find a helping hand!! I'm really pleased to have helped you.
Regards . . .Andy
Not all hero’s wear capes! ❤ just sorted my front and back door in about 10 minutes after spending an hour trying to figure it out myself
Andy you are a legend! - I was having a problem locking the door and I suspected it was because the door had dropped and was out of alignment (although lot's of other videos were making me believe the locking mechanism was starting to break) - had search for ages looking for a video with these hinges and yours was the only one I found literally 30 minutes ago - undid the top and middle screw and wedge the door at the top to bring it back square and job sorted!!!
Well done! I'm so pleased this video has helped you.
All the best . . . Andy
Fantastic video much appreciated Andy
Thank you for this video. I can now adjust my door, genius!
Very good video Andy you have just help me solve my front door problem Many Thanks for posting your video.
I've been wondering where you've been . I'm glad to see you're ok. I'm a big fan of your channel. Your work is greatly appreciated. ( Ican watch work for hours)
Hi Barry
Thanks for the kind words. I've enjoyed making videos over the years but with changes in software and computers has got in the way. it used to be easy when I could edit and upload from Adobe but not any more. Making a video on the phone and uploading it is easy but I always want to do some editing and that turns a five minute job into an event.
Stay safe.
Kind regards . . . Andy
Welcome back! I have subscribed only a few months ago and enjoy your videos very much so. Funny how someone I have never met or will meet can effect daily life. Anyways, your opinion of this silly hinge resonates with me. They tried, but it’s not great.
Hi Jonathan thanks for the kind words. I almost take UA-cam for granted now, when I'm struggling with something, anything, I first turn to UA-cam to see who else has had this problem and is showing how they overcome the problem. I like to think that the problems that I have shown resolved answers to on You Tube help others.
All the best . . . Andy
Thank you. I've adjusted many doors. Your right rubbish hinge.
Thanks, all the best . . . Andy
Very helpful and detailed video thanks for posting
Hey Andy, great to see a video from you. The hinges I have require a wood chisel for adjustment.
Hi Rick good to hear from you, I hope you are in good health!! These crazy hinges were driving me crazy, I was looking for an adjustment that simply wasn't there.
73's . . .Andy
Great video, door all sorted after 12 months of problems
Brilliant! Exactly what I needed. Thanks! 👍
Hi, I hope that you were successful.
Regards . . . Andy
You’ve explained exactly what I need, thank you
Hi thanks for the feedback. I wonder, how long had you been struggling before you looked at UA-cam?
All the best . . . Andy
Super video, wouldn't have a clue how to fix our dropped door without it. Didn't know I needed a 4mm allen key or a 6mm socket or I needed to remove three springs and three plastic cups.
Glad to have helped you out there.
Regards . . . Andy
Hi Andy, moved into house with this IG door 2 months ago and had great difficulty opening door, thought it would be fairly easy to adjust...but no!! went to the window company that supplied and fitted it and they sent a fitter to adjust, but he tried scratched his head and said there is "no more" adjustment left and needed a new door frame. this went on for weeks, then found your video and half an hour later had it all adjusted and working well. So a very big thank you, oh and still waiting for window company to contact me !!. Really bad design.
Hey John that's fantastic news. I'm delighted to have helped you out.
I wonder how much the quote will be for the new frame??££$$$££???!! Please forward the video to the window company in the hope that it educates them on how to deal with the problem.
how many poor suckers have been caught out by this lousy hinge design?
Thanks for the feedback.
All the very best. . . Andy
Thanks! Very helpful. I have these rubbish hinges on a door from Polar Glaze Dorset and now I’m out of warranty cover I couldn’t bring myself to call the engineer out again. Now I can do it myself. Probably going to need adjusting every six months - should have invested in a better door!
Hi thanks for the feedback Duncan. I don't know but I think that so long as you tighten things up correctly you'll probably find it'll stay fixed. But Hey, you know how to fix it now without a Call Out fee. If it's any consultation, they guys that fitted my door didn't know how the blessed hinge worked and it was bad from day one and they had several go's at it.
All the best . . . Andy
Brilliant video. Thanks alot 👍
I never seen an adjustable hinge for a door before Andy are you ever going to go back to radio repair it's been a few years I think I've been a subscriber to your channel for 12 years when I first started watching you you had a video every two weeks or so it's good to see you back hope to see you again soon
Hi Wesley thanks for the comment. I still have an interest in ham radio although I'm not really active in that direction. Unfortunately my old ICOM power amplifier has died and I've been unable to fix it. I took it to an ICOM specialist and he couldn't fix it, which in a way made me feel a bit better, (I figure, if the specialist couldn't fix it it had to be bad) When I had the amplifier I could guarantee been called back when entering a pileup but without it I barely get a look in. And of course I love the old radio technology but I've been busy enjoying days out and too may visits to the cafes up and down the coast over here in Wales.
Thanks again.
Kind regards . . . Andy
Great Video, I was pulling my hair out trying to figure it out, crap hinge all said and done
Man, I know just how you fell !! This video has probably saved more peoples sanity than any other that I've made. Thanks for the feedback, I think I might just go to heaven after all.
All the best . . . Andy
Very informative. Thanks.
We have these hinges and I agree they're dreadful. After a few weeks the door slips and they have to be adjusted again. I'm planning on changing them for something better
Very helpful. Thanks.
thank you! totally sorted my front door now. was not shutting or locking properly and could not figure out how to raise the height!
Hey, thanks for the feedback James. What a pain these hinges are!! I'm really pleased to have been able to help you. All the best . . . Andy
Super helpful, thank you!
Thanks for the feedback.
Good job mate!
Thank you. I hope it helped you. . . Andy
Thank you!
Nice to see you!
Thanks Mich
HELLO ANDY! Missed you good man.
You cant keep a good man down, but I don't seem to get much time for making videos, too busy having fun.
All the best . . . Andy
glad to see you
Hello Dennis, good to hear from you. As you'll have seen, I'm not making a lot of videos theses days but it's good to hear from long standing contributors.
Hope all's well with you. Kind Regards . . . Andy
Tried that first method for getting the door righter the the frame on the hinge side at the top and I can’t get it to budge at all, big gap to be able to do it, but once I loosen the allen key, the 6mm socket bolts will not move at all.
Hi you probably have 3 hinges on the door. It might help you to find out what's happening if you take one of the hinges off the door. I'd remove say the middle hinge (first making sure that the top and bottom hinges are secure) once you have the hinge in your hand, you'll be able to play with it and really get to understand how it functions. (that's what I did to work out what was going wrong)
refit the middle hinge and remove the top hinge and check that out, once you happy that it all functions correctly refit the top hinge and repeated the process with the bottom hinge. then you will know that each hinge works the same as all of the others. You should now have a total understanding of the hinges. if you can’t lift the door (with the appropriate screws loosened off then it could well be that when the hinges were originally fitted, they were badly fitted. for example, imagine the top hinge was fitted such that the bottom hinge was at the lower end of its travel adjustment and the top hinge was fitted at the top of its travel adjustment, then this means you can't move the door up or down because one or the other hinge has run out of travel. It could of course be any combination of hinges that are stopping you from moving up or down. You will have to work out witch are the worst offenders. Again remove any one hinge and try to reset the door. If removing one hinge doesn't solve the problem replace it and remove another, and you should be OK. Once you work out which hinge is causing the problem you will have to refit that hinge either in a lower or higher position to match the others.
Good luck . . . Andy
@AndyDaviesByTheSea. Thank you so much for this video! Hope you can answer a question sir. I only have to adjust the left to right fit on my front door as the height is O.K. So, can I loosen the 4mm. Allen screw just enough to turn the "cam" hinge pin without affecting the height/top to bottom set of the door? Thanks again. You and yours stay safe and well.
Hi yes to move the door left or right, that is either closer to the lock or away from the lock, you have to undo the hexagon socket screw and then use a 6mm socket to twist the central shaft that runs down the hinge, what you might call the ‘hinge pin’.
Watch the video again, start at one minute forty-four seconds and watch until three minutes twenty-five seconds, that covers what you want. Good luck, let me know how you get on.
All the best . . . Andy
Great video, our door is a really tight fit and have had to adjust the side movement several times. When the door gets sun on it, it becomes a lot tighter in the frame so I have to make slight adjustments. I've just ordered another hinge because I broke the locking screw. So I wanted to ask if you know of any other hinges that will fit as a replacement to these that have a separate height adjuster? Thanks
Hi, no I can't help you with an alternative. What I have found is that once I made the adjustment I anticipate that it should stay good. The rest of the hinge seems to be fit for purpose for a good few years, so I wouldn't worry about it too much, but if you search for something like "door doctor" or "replacement door hinges" on the internet, I'm sure that you'll find something suitable. Just make sure you take all of the measurements of the damaged hinge so you know what to buy. Regards . . . Andy
I was thinking here we go...... They're a rare model... Nothing worth watching, no information, engineer diagram.... Then I watched this... Andy I think, maybe other's... You Sir are a Legend 💯👍... Great vid..course the. Door won't go up or
down 1 or 3 of the Allen key are tight.. 😂
By The way there's a job going on TOP GEAR..?
Thanks Andy.....
Ben
Hi Ben I hope that you are able to free up the tight fixings. Just a dab, (not a spray) of WD40 on the top of the screws can help. Don't soak the whole thing. Leave it to soak into the threads and reapply a couple of times. Use new, good clean sharply shaped Allen keys, not old worn-out keys with rounded edges. If it's still tight try hitting the bottom of the socket screw with a steel punch. If you don't have a small enough punch to fit in the socket screw hole try cutting up an old Allen key (of the correct size) and use that as a punch to shock the screw. Don't try hitting the bent end of the key, you want a strait line bang down the thread. (i.e. some times banging the end of a stuck bolt down into the thread brakes to bond) if it's still stuck try more WD40, let it soak for an hour or more and hit it again. What ever you do don't use worn out socket keys as once you wreck the head of the screw you've dad it!!
If you are really stuck, take the hinges off one at a time and work on them in a vice. (assuming there are 3 hinges, you can do that without issue)
Good luck. . . . Andy
Thanks just adjusted front door that’s been annoying me 😊
Hi Well done, it's easy when you know how and if you don't know how then usually there's someone on UA-cam to help you. I'm pleased to have helped you.
Thanks for the feed back.
Regards . . . Andy
That boat prop in the rocks outside the door looks familiar. 😉
I wonder if I'm the only one who noticed it?
great stuff, thankyou, i've got the same hinges on my front door and have been battling today to work out how to adjust the height on them, many thanks
Glad to have helped you out. Regards . . .Andy
And here I am with the old fashioned method of fill in the holes and chisel out the hinge recess on one side, then refit, or turn the hinge over to get the unworn side. Ah well, still good hinges if the wear after 60 years is under 1mm, for a door used 100 plus times a day minimum.
Hi there. Well there's nothing wrong with good old-fashioned technology. But you know how it is these days, they want to make everything complicated, in the case of theses hinges they only got it partially right.
Regards . . . Andy
Thanks pal
Hi , I hope that it helps you. Regards . . Andy
Why would these type of hinge be installed on this IG door?....
I don't know as the doors are not cheap but the hinges are very poor.
All the best . . . Andy
@@AndyDaviesByTheSea Cheers mate. I have found the hardware store that only sells these types which are quite similar. Not cheap as they are $36 NZD for one. All three needed replaced lol..
Change these hinges because bad designed, for new hinges better quality and easy Maintenence
These hinges suck and any company that uses it deserve just a single star and a bad review.. That being said, I adjusted the door like so:
I ordered air wedges of Amazon to be able to do this without back pain. The air wedges cause too much friction to be able to move the door to the left or right. So I followed these steps roughly:
1. Note the adjustments needed to the door (e.g. the top needs to be slightly moved to the frame and the door needs to be raised a bit)
2. Put two air wedges under the door. One as close to the hinges as possible and the other in the middle
3. Take note of the current orientations of the adjustment screws. The more the screw is pointing towards the door, the more the door has been adjusted outwards to wards the frame already.
4. Take all the adjustment screws out.
5. Adjust the bottom of the door to the left-right position that is needed.
6. Start inflating both air wedges at the same time in equal amounts until the door is approximately at the right height.
7. Adjust the left-right of the top hinge to the correct position. Note that this might have move significantly since loosening the adjustment screws.
8. Insert and tighten the adjustment screw on the top hinge. Then do the same for all the other hinges.
Hi I hope the door fits well now. I agree, the hinges are pretty bad.
All the best . . . Andy
Try using winbags...much easier than faffing with chisels & bits of wood!
Hi there, I had to look up 'Windbags' although I kind of guessed what I'd find. I don't need that sort of thing often but I imagine its like having an extra pair of hands, which could be very handy.
Regards . . . Andy
We used to use a similar product to move large stones and sometimes to split them in stone masonry work.
“Give me an air bag strong enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. ” ha ha
Poorly designed hinges , I’m a locksmith and repair doors these hinges aren’t adequate to hang composite doors , the lateral adjustments just slips back over most of the time
I can't imagine why anyone would come up with design like this. All the best . . . Andy
Worst hinge ever devised, stopped buying Truedor 2 years ago which were endorsed by Tommy Walsh.....tripe