London Staff, Mace, Club 2023 workshop - The immense importance of shield cast and its application
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
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I’m enjoying how you’re presenting this training to us. I’ve been training in FMA for over sixteen years and one of the things I wished I learned sooner was how to handle a strike from a blunt object. You can swing a stick or staff easily, but knowing how an incoming strike feels is a whole other thing. Most people don’t realize what happens when you’re trying to block and/or attack a strike…feeling the power, vibration, recoil, etc. is necessary.
I noticed after many years of training, that I sucked at the most important part, not getting hit by completely untrained people. untrained people are chaotic. I watched a bunch of security cam footage, and started designing drills around it. there are a whole pile of these drills that are the result of that.
Thanks Mark. As a retired peace officer I've swung my share of straight stick and PR-24. Good stuff here. I have learned a lot from you and have much better kettlebell workouts now. Bought your intro to heavy clubs over the weekend and am glad I did. On to better shield casts now. Always learn, live long.
In my brief stint on Shore Patrol (when issued a baton) I was instructed to tap someone on the shins for maximum stopping power. The explanation was that when you are trying to stop a dangerous person, he may be under the influence, and not actually sensitive to a strike on the head or shoulder, and a strike on the head is potentially lethal.
However, the pain of a strike on the shin is sufficient to immobilize without threatening life.
Good advice. We work in the shin tap in later seminars.
did you ever have to go to town on someone, like say they were strung-out and had that meth-strength?
Good Morning , love this stuff. Wish we had this great type of training all over. I would definitely attend this at minimum twice a week if we had this in my area! These seminars are such a great idea Mark. I will keep working on my shield cast now and forever ♾️ I already started working on the two handed, heavy club mills at a super light weight and I can tell my breathing and movements are already getting better. 👊🏻🙏🏻
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I do various swings with a heavy club that, as you say, aren't sports specific but use the same muscles. Because of the weight, I'm forced to coordinate my whole body to do them, and yes it's physical conditioning, but it's also mental/athletic training that teaches how to combine muscles, momentum and body weight into one motion. Now when I pick up a racquet or golf club, the swings are a little different, but power and accuracy are magnified.
Great video tying the tools together with martial applications. Wishing you all the best with the seminars. 👍
Thats a great video Mark as always. It's a bit like a Wax-on Wax-off, before I was just treating this as a single movement for health and proper movement without thinking of the combat element and how the beginning of the shield cast is a blocking movement and the end becoming an attacking phase. Love your videos and good to have you over this side of the Globe.
This is awesome. We need to get a workshop in Canada.
🤘🏼 looking forward to attending one of these seminars when I can do so
Great video!
ooooohhhhh...payong shielding (FMA)
happy to report that a year or two of doing shield cast finally paid off last Sunday when I sparred in our little FMA gathering. i noticed that my payong (what you guys are doing in the video) have become more dynamic and easier to deploy from a resting or neutral position and easier to chain with a witik (or a quick snapping attack to the head) strike
Sorta. When I did Kali, most of the blocks had more of a redirect movement that flowed into a counterstrike, this looks more like meeting force with force. Not wrong or right, just different.
The fact that you used partner & not opponent on this is one of the many reasons I like following you. I wonder if we have a Sifu in common.
Very cool! Is there a company you are traveling with? Wouldn't mind finding out if you'll be in North America some time to attend a training class.
I have a 2.5 day march 17, 18, 19 in Bellingham Washington
I have a 5 day on Orccus island I’m august.
There’s a 2 day club and mace at onnit in may
We will add some more if we get a good location
Indians and Persians have been doing these movements for thousands of years. And boy, they are good fighters. Thanks for the upload
No shit sherlock
I have seen mace heads from about 3000 BC ,in the UK.
Brilliant information
Thats dope
Is the 2-handed heavy club swing generated because of a wrist or last movement or something else? I can never tell where that's coming from.
There was a guy that once said , 'it's all legs', but that can't be true no?
@@cioran1754 Nope, definitely not legs.
I’m hesitant to buy a macebell without seeing what the exercise is like for myself. I found a 1” spin lock 5ft barbell that I can load plates on and functionally isn’t much longer than a traditional macebell but obviously isn’t exactly the same. Is there a huge difference in trying to do these exercises with a macebell than with a short barbell loaded on one side?
During 10 min sets, how often do you switch hands/direction?
Mark - is there a protocol for switching direction when one is pursuing shield cast for time?
Several
Depending on equipment
Thank you - Mike from MF-Refab made me a Mace/Bulva and i have several TacFit clubs up to 40lb - all b/c of YOU! Keep up the great work
you are only doing one side you also do reverse flank guard
So @Mark, what would it take to convince to come visit us in Australia? 🙏
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For left handed people would the be in a weaker defense posterior for the right hand outside swing attack?
There are 4 things you learn equally.
Right vs right
Left vs left
Left vs right
Right vs left
Thanks , practice practice practice
Does anyone have a DIY dirty solution for adexclub spacers?
I think someone on the Discord used a swimming pool noodle as a temporary solution.
@Hazel Maines a noodle ! Thanks I'll have a look over there :)
I put a paint roller ( length approx equal to fully loaded - 2.5") onto the arc with just one 5lb weight.
The difference between that 5lb weight at end of handle versus at end length is huge for a 10 minute set. As expected I guess.
Hiya, noticed the shield-cast in some nice XingZiQuan staff strikes, is this staff training bespoke?
You can bespoke it to xingyi
@Mark Wildman thanks..........new phrase......"bespoke it to xxxxx"
What is a good weight to start with the mace?
Usually 10 lbs for a male without an injury history. Get an adex and you have all the weights you need for years
I strongly second that. 10 lbs is not only perfect to start with and learn the motions without injuring yourself, but it's also great for the rest of your life for warming up, AND, if you do what Mark suggests and work up to doing the shield cast for 10 minutes straight, 10 lbs is perfect once again.
So Filipino martial arts
So all martial arts
I see no immense necessity unless your sword or stick fighter. Pullups, presses those are the necessary basics. Snatch and jerk maybe. But contrary to the title and how you market it, i dont see whats so magic about this movement that its so important
Helpful for full shoulder mobility, thoracic spine and core rotation, alternate glute firing as the weight swings laterally, then a pull over. Throwing patterns for multi sports.
Defense of one’s head is generally a good idea
try it, you might love it
@@hazelmaines2040 thats a bunch of fancy words but i doubt this will make me throw faster or do anything that i dont recieve from my regular training. Not saying its a bad movement, just sayng its not immensly important, in my humble opinion
I am Yudansha in Okinawan Karate and also trained Classical Chinese Fist. These movements mimic MANY Classical movements that I have been doing almost 50 years. I have started working some kettlebell routines and the body mechanics in my training apply to the kettlebells and have helped me to easily adapt.