The Difference A Film Editor Makes
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2024
- 5 memorable moments on the difference a film editor makes.
Please check out the original sources via the links below.
Read more about this video in the detailed companion blog post:
jonnyelwyn.co.uk/film-and-vid...
Chapters:
00:00:00 Mission Impossible: Fallout Editing Breakdown
00:00:20 Inside The Edit
00:02:00 Lessons from the Screenplay
00:04:29 Every Frame a Painting
00:09:00 Interview with Editor Steve Audette
00:11:17 Eddie Hamilton, ACE - Kick Ass Presentation - Avid Stage, NAB 2012
00:15:14 Thanks for watching
Original Sources
Inside The Edit - www.insidetheedit.com/
Lessons from the Screenplay - Ex Machina - The Control of Information - • Ex Machina - The Contr...
Every Frame a Painting, How does an Editor Think and Feel - • How Does an Editor Thi...
Interview with Frontline Editor Steve Audette - bit.ly/docuedit
Eddie Hamilton, ACE - Kick Ass Presentation - Avid Stage, NAB 2012 - • Eddie Hamilton - Фільми й анімація
"The less you notice our work, The more successful we have been" is such a fire line
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Kinda the same with sound design. If you're hearing the sounds and not really noticing them cause it just sounds like how you'd imagine it, is exactly the idea.
@@n0cturnal3D And CGI/special effects. People praise certain films for having no CGI when they actually do have CGI
I don't think I even agree with that. I notice it a lot, and I'm like yep, that was an awesome choice.
@@LoyaltotheNightsky That's a good point, but I think the quote speaks more to the "average" viewer who passively watches movies without as much thought (or knowledge) on filmmaking techniques. If an average viewer notices your edits, it's almost NEVER in a good way.
That first animation was spot on! Couldn't have explained it any better. Kudos mate :)
That's the beauty of Inside The Edit for you!
As a beginning UA-camr who wants to get into filmmaking and animation, I understand the labors an editor or animator goes through. I used to hate how we as animators or editors go wildly unnoticed. However, the line "The less you notice our work, the more successful we have been" made me realize our true purpose of existing. We go unnoticed because we are so good at our job, which was a nice refresher.
I guess it works both ways - sometimes flashy editing reveals the hand of the editor and is 'good' but then again invisible editing is also 'good' - as long as it's what was intended I guess it doesn't matter which way it goes!
@@JonnyElwyn That's the beauty of editing. Not only do we (at least the good ones) incorporate the editing seamlessly, we choose the style. Then, as I said, we incorporate it in so well that no one leaves that trance like state when in a theatre or watching a DVD or even a UA-cam Video. As long as they are focused on the video or movie, you succeded.
Love this video, been editing for almost 20 years, without any formal education, but coming from music I always based my edits on emotion and rhythm and it worked for me.
Once an audio enginneer told me I edited well because I was a good drummer.
At TS 11:19, I like the pre-edit version because it looks like a ballet, flowing smoothly from one killing to the next, while the editted version looks like a cartoon, jumping from one killing to the next. The contrast between killing and the sequences, smooth vs jerky, is more dramatic and interesting, IMHO.
I agree that the final cut is far too jerky, it’s all sizzle. At the same time, the pre-edit is also far too long, I would’ve tried to trim some fat off, but keep the fluidity of motion.
@@innadoescrochetyep I agree absolutely
The end result was underwhelming but meh still nice
This video is criminally under viewed. I knew it was going to be good when I saw Mission Impossible Fallout’s mustang in Paris chase, that scene really felt like we were going back to the 70s-80s of action scenes just for a moment, the way the score fades away and the movie hones in on the high-octane sounds of engines, wheels skidding, chassis thudding, a very distilled focused sound editing that gets you right in the scene. Sound editing matched perfectly with visual editing. Many movies today muddle the action with the score and a bland sound-mix that is probably easier to match the editing, but definitely takes away from the thrill of each action/event, instead everything kind of blends together. Sound is so important for editing, its why Mad max Fury Road remains another great example of perfect editing.
this is a re-edit/re-upload of someone elses video. they have a lot more views. the links to the original videos are in the description. def check him out
This animation is stunning. And this entire video is su[erb. Well done.
Very nice video, and an invaluable insight into what a film editor does. About the last edit example though, I like the original version; all that jumpiness makes me lost, and translates in my brain into "okay, a lot of jumping and 'action', and our guy somehow - as always - beats everyone"... it feels like a lot of hand waving, looks similar to so many other action sequences, and feels like dumbing me down. Just my feeling on it...
I feel the exact same way about the last one!
that opening animation gave me chills.
Im editing a movie I directed right now. Sometimes, the edit veered off script. What was shot for one emotion, Im now reconstructing to communicate another emotion. Ive had to delete shots I was proud of because the rythm felt better without them. Ive also reversed shots to give an effect for example I liked the way the actor closes his eyes in a shot but I need him to open his eyes so I reverse the footage to get the effect I want. Even after you yell cut, there are subtle changes in their faces that are usable in the final edit. What would normally be a blooper could serve as genuine laughter etc. Editing is magic.
That intro was poetry
Great analysis and inside look at editing. I especially like the deconstructed car chase scene from Mission Impossible 6 at the beginning of the video.
Intro is pure genius. Edits are meant to be invisible, so how can you effectively show them?
Jonny, this was an awesome video. Thank you
that's just a nice visualization of cuts. appreciate the work and time effort ^^
Eddie Hamilton is one the best editors in Hollywood right now! Great video
awesome work
Very nice! Thank you!
Omg this was so spot on and as an editor I felt understood. I love this work 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
One note I'd make is that I think the edit for Ant-Man makes perfect sense for the scene. Luke trusts his power in the force so can sit in the feeling of not being powerful ENOUGH, but with Ant-Man it's different. He's completely out of his depth, he's never done this before, he barely believes in it, and so it's less of him feeling like a failure and more of him feeling that he couldn't possibly come close/do it at all (similar to if Luke couldn't use the force at all), and this is accentuated by the edit barely even showing his failure which highlights how little effort/grit he really gave to it. Works well for how he eventually overcomes it.
beautiful animation
Perfectly explained
it was amazing i would like to ask one thing why don't you post such videos please these are very helpful
the intro is fire
The animation is stunning
I subscribed because you are the first person to understand my brain 🧠 and to do it with the animation made me just turn everything completely mute and just listen bc you get me ……..thank you for activating my brain again I felt useless
Lovely
not sure how better was the batman editing. I would have kept the original shot.
Bro! I was staring at the graphics and SFX
And they ROCK so I watched it twice to understand what’s it about😂
Should get more reach as it shares too much of a valuable information . Amazing work
Was searching for some actual video editing concepts and techniques except the software tutorials (just got hell lot bored of it) and found your channel, what a insightful channel buddy.
Can you tell me any good books around video editing ? I am searching for a book that teaches how to craft good films/videos with cuts transitions and psychology behind why this cut....
Thanks for the encouraging words! Here's a link to every book on film editing and post-production etc I've ever reviewed... jonnyelwyn.co.uk/film-and-video-editing/books-for-creatives-every-book-on-the-blog/
Take a look there!
@@JonnyElwynjust read the blog, I just love it, can't thank you more... Going for a book fair and now I know what books to get, thank you so much
I really like the continuous shot version of the Kick Ass scene, but I understand that for this genre one needs the "cinematic look". It's a shame, as actors did a really fluid performance on the fighting only to get it cut after.
“I can’t it’s too big”
Luke Skywalker, 3055 or some shit.
i love that intro
The very opening car stunt? Thanks!
13:10 previous single shot was better
the best anymaition in the start in i have ever seen since i watching the you tube videos if there's any one done this in the better way then just suggest me the channel
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This is all very informative, but what say does the director have in the process if the film is in their vision? That is something that always confused me.
What that mean 4 scd 16 frame? Frame?
"we slide little colored rectangles around on rows"
Editors have instincts that can’t be taught
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If this video’s title were “The Difference A Film Editor Makes WHEN A) THE DIRECTOR HAD NO CLUE WHAT THE HELL HE WAS DOING and B) THE DIRECTOR SHOT AN INSANE AMOUNT OF COVERAGE PER SCENE”… well, then I would agree on “What a difference a film editor makes”. But keep in mind that if a director knows what he/she’s doing, and only shots what he/she needs… there is no much room for an editor to “decide”. In my books, no matter how well edited a film is when a director is lost. Finding the film in the edit is the lamest work ethos possible (from a director’s standpoint). Kudos to editors who end up saving the ass of mediocre, unprepared, irresponsible filmmakers.
Even the good ones got to have it done. It's just how it goes.
@gaveta deveria ver esse video
And remember kids, you don’t have to do something for 10 years to be good at it. If you figure it out in 30 days then you have talent and you should build on that.
Did you just steal essays from other channels and stick them all in one video? What the hell? How much of this video did you actually create?
honestly the editing on this video i think could be much better. I think especially the intro is very uninteresting and i think your retention analytics will probably reflect this. why from 9:04 to 11:16 is the screen black? missed opportunity i think to up retention. This video very clearly lacks an introduction and summary. Hope this feedback is useful for future videos, all the best and good luck with future content
Although retention is encouraged on UA-cam, the videos topic is centered on Film Editing so I would expect it to pace itself a bit slower.
@@AdeebFarooqi not just encouraged, retention *is* youtube. With the topic being editing id think editing would want to be the best it can be for credibility
@@Hushey It would improve significantly, but the current form feels more authentic. Andy Warhol's Empire comes to mind.
@@AdeebFarooqi true on the part of authenticity, but lets agree to disagree on the goal of posting content to youtube here
Actually that last shot was better without any of your editing
Man that first sequence had no credit to the director or other crew mates? Just appears a bit arrogant like editors make or brake a film on their own…kinda just seemed like an editor’s ego boost, no offense
Cringe
as if Karl Reisz's "Technique of Film Editing" has never been written