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  • @jhinzx
    @jhinzx 8 місяців тому +423

    Its the same guy who said Tenz is out of SEN 90% lmao

    • @zvzzbzzdy
      @zvzzbzzdy 8 місяців тому +10

      Fr lmao, tbf he was right about Aspas

    • @pAuLvErNiEr06
      @pAuLvErNiEr06 8 місяців тому +107

      @@zvzzbzzdy If you throw 100 gum on the wall, atleast 1 will stick.

    • @Krude7676
      @Krude7676 8 місяців тому +7

      @@zvzzbzzdy he told everybody not to bet on loud to win champs,he said that thell probably get eliminated in the initial stages.i dont believe the fraud

    • @flavioroberto9960
      @flavioroberto9960 8 місяців тому +6

      @@zvzzbzzdy Aspas himself said that at the time he leaked this, he had no conversation and no desire to leave Loud. This only happened in the middle of the Champions League. So that leak is fake

    • @therealjacque
      @therealjacque 8 місяців тому +6

      yeah he's literally just a clout farmer, no way his takes are right, he literally just blabbers nonsense and seangares sits through it some how.

  • @ayayatn4731
    @ayayatn4731 8 місяців тому +412

    JasonR left a mark on the valorant community 💀

    • @bumbum198
      @bumbum198 8 місяців тому

      brooo 😭

    • @Melody-rv2bv
      @Melody-rv2bv 8 місяців тому

      this had me dying

    • @irrelevanttwat
      @irrelevanttwat 8 місяців тому +20

      poor guy got cancelled for nothing, L community

    • @thewhutnow5795
      @thewhutnow5795 8 місяців тому +54

      @@irrelevanttwatfound his alt account 💀

    • @me-zi6iw
      @me-zi6iw 8 місяців тому

      what he do again@@irrelevanttwat

  • @StaySaltyKids
    @StaySaltyKids 8 місяців тому +88

    Imagine if Slasher's source was meL 😂

  • @lemandreza9325
    @lemandreza9325 8 місяців тому +23

    I dont know if shes good or not but jumping into tier 1 with so many tier 1 and tier 2 free agents is crazy and i respect it.

  • @snsdredvelvet2755
    @snsdredvelvet2755 8 місяців тому +44

    respectfully. there are only 5 tier 1 NA teams so there are limited options open. there are so many tier 1 ready and proven pros that arent even signed yet. unfortunately she isnt option 1,2,3,4,5,etc. if orgs arent even looking at tier 2 players then them even glancing at gc player are even more unlikely. there is much more to it than just being a woman

    • @jaiden2974
      @jaiden2974 8 місяців тому +4

      this issue is unrelated to that, it’s teams agreeing she could be good enough to trial, then asking the players if they’d be okay with it, and them saying no, *on the basis* of her gender. If it was an issue of skill, then no hard feelings, it’s only specifically if it’s true that teams felt she was a strong enough player to trial, and then didn’t due to her being a woman

    • @gabrielguerrero4727
      @gabrielguerrero4727 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@jaiden2974she's clearly not good enough, she struggles to even beat t3 teams, why does she deserve a trial just for being a woman?

    • @JazzSingh
      @JazzSingh 8 місяців тому +2

      @@gabrielguerrero4727you’re misunderstanding, she isn’t salty about not getting a spot in tier 1 because she’s a woman, it’s more the fact she’s getting denied spots with players willingly admiring that they don’t want to play with a woman

    • @naizy
      @naizy 8 місяців тому +3

      yes and i feel like she isnt really good enough either

    • @snsdredvelvet2755
      @snsdredvelvet2755 8 місяців тому

      @@jaiden2974 i understand that. Sexism should be prevented in esports however the reporter aka slasher is reported it like its all based off her gender. Hes a reporter so he knows how hes phrasing things will be interpreted which is why im saying that gender is just one of the many considerations that effect her either being trialed or not trialed by a t1 team

  • @PatrickBhardwaj
    @PatrickBhardwaj 8 місяців тому +258

    The fact is she has played in open tournaments against male teams and lost everytime in brackets so why would Tier 1 orgs sign her when someone like boostio , FNS , com , exalt ...are avaliable. Sure inter team dynamics would have been hard to manage with a female involved but that is not the main reason for not getting her.

    • @denjii9
      @denjii9 8 місяців тому +46

      she didnt 1v5 those teams lol

    • @soufps
      @soufps 8 місяців тому

      ​@@denjii9do u follow the tier 2 scene. They lost to ambrosia, qor, instinct, lobster fishers, team revenge, ariel arise just naming a few from non gc tornes

    • @soufps
      @soufps 8 місяців тому +4

      i think 1v5 is a mad overstatement

    • @PatrickBhardwaj
      @PatrickBhardwaj 8 місяців тому +51

      Yo i am not saying she is bad...she is very good and will own all of us trash players XD. But there are better alternatives at tier 1 lvl.

    • @SmediumL
      @SmediumL 8 місяців тому +15

      THIS. Everyone is quick to jump on the "they just sexist" train because it's more fun to raise pitchforks and torches rather than be rational about the situation.

  • @jaysunzow
    @jaysunzow 8 місяців тому +61

    Male talent pool is many order of magnitudes bigger there are way more male players in general that are proven at the top level and teams probably don't want to risk any toxic team dynamics with 4 guys and 1 girl

  • @qexy3975
    @qexy3975 8 місяців тому +87

    V1 went 32-0 in GC and didnt even make it to playoffs in Nerd Street Lockdown against T2 teams with 0-2 QoR and 0-2 Lobster Fishers getting eliminated instantly I'm not surprised T1 teams are turning down these players.

    • @ryan7102
      @ryan7102 8 місяців тому +12

      Fr why is no one bringing this up. It’s no hate but she not t1 ready and she’s delusional if she thinks she is. No hate just facts

    • @gabriel_loup
      @gabriel_loup 8 місяців тому

      And we gotta point out Tarik was a a pro player for a long time as well, and guess what, he never played with a female teammate
      Hypocrisy to say the least

    • @SHSLRuby
      @SHSLRuby 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@ryan7102 if she was getting turned down cause they felt her skill wasn't where it needed to be, that'd be one thing
      However, their reasoning specifically is cause players said they did not want to play with women, meaning if there's a women with T1 potential, she could be turned down too and THAT'S what's fucked up about it

    • @missshaye6591
      @missshaye6591 8 місяців тому +1

      That is not the point, they straight up told her that they didnt even let her do tryouts because a player "wasnt comforable playing with women" if they let her do tryouts, or just refuse with that justification it wouldve been fine

    • @vcteditsval
      @vcteditsval 8 місяців тому +1

      the problem is that they didnt even give her a chance. I mean if she's not good enough then deny her but let her freaking play tryouts ykwim?

  • @chrishoward6864
    @chrishoward6864 8 місяців тому +6

    he doesn't even watch the whole video

  • @zvzzbzzdy
    @zvzzbzzdy 8 місяців тому +4

    Mel will need to clear this up but she was referring to Tier 1 before franchising. She's also made these comments public earlier in the year. About teams being interested in her as IGL. Tier 1 right now is the best of the best. I don't think she deluded enough to think she can compete with current tier 1. Her GC team can't get past pug teams. Let along tier 3 teams in open tournaments, like Knights Monthly Guantlet.

  • @rafiujong2417
    @rafiujong2417 8 місяців тому +2

    relax it can be only asumption from slasher, even sean gares said it could be only asumption

  • @slaughter2517
    @slaughter2517 8 місяців тому +20

    The only good player in GC i can think compete in t1 is florescent and for the rest i dont think any t1 team will risk it

    • @BKgamerstudio
      @BKgamerstudio 8 місяців тому +6

      She is also only 17 and with the rule changes about under 18 next year, the risk isn't just her gender but also her age.

    • @user-ju9nm2qo9w
      @user-ju9nm2qo9w 8 місяців тому

      v1 sarah is the best player in the world

    • @Ethan-gj9wd
      @Ethan-gj9wd 8 місяців тому

      @@BKgamerstudio honestly with how gaming is, 17 isnt even really young. It's def on the young side but there are def good players younger than her

    • @DForre6040
      @DForre6040 8 місяців тому +4

      funny thing is the only person u mentioned is a biological male

    • @MemeSama
      @MemeSama 8 місяців тому

      @@DForre6040 yea thats hilarious

  • @Bogdan24199
    @Bogdan24199 8 місяців тому +2

    I find it hard to imagine how a guy could say that they don't want her because she's a woman.
    Like, we gather together, the manager/coach/whatever comes and goes like "Hey, this girl is good, we should bring her in the team" and then a player would say "I'm not comfortable playing with girls".
    Even if someone is sexist I highly doubt that they would invoke that as a reason instead of just saying "I don't think she's good/this player is better"
    I really wonder how did someone told her that she can't play because of her gender

  • @JazzSingh
    @JazzSingh 8 місяців тому +11

    This issue will always be in esports. Even if women speak up about their experiences, they’ll be put under so much scrutiny (as if they aren’t already scrutinised).
    Mel herself has confirmed that even though it isn’t “every time” MOST times she’s been denied because some male T1 players have stated that they don’t won’t to play with a woman on their team. She’s never wanted bring it up because it would affect her future opportunities.
    Reactions from the community haven’t been the best and it proves her point.
    It’s very disheartening to see.

    • @repurposed
      @repurposed 8 місяців тому

      confirmed how, like is there any evidence of this at all?

    • @CrimsonZboss
      @CrimsonZboss 8 місяців тому +2

      Proof? This is a huge set of assumptions and speculations.Yay was considered the best in the world and couldn’t land a team. If they skip over Yay, I absolutely believe them skipping MeL for T1. She’s plenty more talented than me, but she isn’t even dominant in her T3 league or whatever it is. Not because she’s a woman; but because she isn’t good enough.

    • @thacic8480
      @thacic8480 8 місяців тому

      proof is in society bro. we live this shit everyday. @@repurposed

    • @repurposed
      @repurposed 8 місяців тому +2

      @@thacic8480 just an excuse to not give evidence lol

  • @prnm91
    @prnm91 8 місяців тому +5

    Like Tarik I agreed with this "news" being unbelievable, and that is due to the fact that no Tier 1 team will be dumb enough to use "you can't play with us because you a woman" and denied her a spot because the negative backlash and the amount of damage it can do to their reputation is unrepairable. So, there is something else that is stopping her from joining a Tier 1 team and being a woman isn't one of them.

    • @yeonluvie3057
      @yeonluvie3057 8 місяців тому +3

      she confirmed it happened though

    • @CrimsonZboss
      @CrimsonZboss 8 місяців тому +1

      @@yeonluvie3057that doesn’t mean it did, that means she left feeling like that was why. Or what she was told by someone after the fact. She’d be suing their damn heads off if they said no bc she was a woman.

  • @DogBlessGeesus
    @DogBlessGeesus 8 місяців тому

    Are there receipts? Need to out these players/orgs.

  • @MelUgaddan
    @MelUgaddan 8 місяців тому +1

    It's obvious that slasher is just speculating, but then when you think about it, meL is definitely up there in terms of skills of being a pro val player. I think there is some truth about what he said.

  • @azazel5626
    @azazel5626 8 місяців тому +3

    actually its more on why only she is getting trialed cuz shes not one of the best female pros,shes not that good as other male free agents but if it was about flurosent or someone that cracked it would be worth trialing them with the franchised teams,and idont think the male pros would be against that,its just mel is not as good as other male pros,thats not being sexist

  • @onemoreking_
    @onemoreking_ 8 місяців тому +56

    It also has something to do w GC. Its awesome that riot created a space for women but it also kinda creates division amongst the players, pretty fucked up still

    • @midono77
      @midono77 8 місяців тому +61

      lets be honest here, if not for riot creating GC you wont find any women pro in the scene at all. even without GC top team still wont take the chance of being a co-ed team.

    • @danne6195
      @danne6195 8 місяців тому +1

      Agreed but without GC there would be very few if any female player in t1 and t2 sadly

    • @Ningen-on2xt
      @Ningen-on2xt 8 місяців тому +1

      honestly women will never really get the shine that male players do and riot won't really do anything about it as they advertise the male dominated series way more than female ones

    • @yourstruly2232
      @yourstruly2232 8 місяців тому +17

      @@Ningen-on2xt I mean the male dominated series portrays more skill. No hate to any women players but C9 white the best GC team couldnt even crack top 64 in the qualifiers for tier 2. They all got the chance. There are so many players that are cracked that dont get the chance. As much as its unfair men do have a better chance because they simply are better.

    • @TheEPIC0ne237
      @TheEPIC0ne237 8 місяців тому

      yeah because the gc are not even close to tier3 valorant lol@@Ningen-on2xt

  • @buff_daddyclub9539
    @buff_daddyclub9539 8 місяців тому

    Potter used to play in mix roaster with EG I doubt having a girl would be problem for team

  • @sweggieboi4928
    @sweggieboi4928 8 місяців тому +3

    I'm just gonna say the quiet part out loud. Men are bet-

  • @Khelafps
    @Khelafps 8 місяців тому +97

    pretty sure thats JASONR 😂

    • @ZEN_37
      @ZEN_37 8 місяців тому +8

      Ngl, I was happy that I forgot about that dude, should have stayed that way. My bad for reading the comments I guess😂

    • @Krude7676
      @Krude7676 8 місяців тому +4

      JasonR doesnt even play valorant after his argument with tarik.

    • @NoVisionGuy
      @NoVisionGuy 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Krude7676 yeah, his reputation got rekt and came back to CS

  • @yuno2540
    @yuno2540 8 місяців тому +36

    no diss to her, but she's not on a T1 level. There's so many more players that are more capable than her that are available for T1 teams to sign.

    • @r8td
      @r8td 8 місяців тому +8

      Exactly, like if she can’t even dominate in GC, which is considered even below T2 then how would she compete in T1? Make it make sense.

    • @asherolson8611
      @asherolson8611 8 місяців тому +2

      @@r8td she is dominating in gc though

    • @TheFlowBrothers
      @TheFlowBrothers 8 місяців тому +2

      @@asherolson8611she’s not good

    • @r8td
      @r8td 8 місяців тому +2

      @@asherolson8611 Dropping a 1.2 in GC which is considered T3-T4 isn’t necessarily dominating considering the fact she wants to skip T2 and go straight into T1. You put any T1 pro in GC and they’d be dropping 40+ every map

    • @asherolson8611
      @asherolson8611 8 місяців тому

      @@r8td last I heard v1 haven't dropped a map though. Says something about her leadership ability at least

  • @benjaminbozman7859
    @benjaminbozman7859 8 місяців тому +6

    This is why as soon as I saw the clip of him saying that i knew this garbage was gonna be all over socials. I'm so sick of people with followings saying stuff like this then providing no proof. You can't make a claim like that and then not provide any kind of concrete evidence to support it. I'm not saying what he is saying isn't true, but he could be presenting that information out of context. Provide a credible source or DONT SAY ANYTHING. Opinions only cause problems. Facts bring about solutions.

  • @AHKhan-po4fc
    @AHKhan-po4fc 8 місяців тому

    Bro how you so fast?

  • @Mommyyriah
    @Mommyyriah 8 місяців тому +70

    What??? Lets not pretend like a WOMAN didnt lead a whole team to champions tier 1 against teams full of men only. That makes no sense..

    • @eclipzz8140
      @eclipzz8140 8 місяців тому

      wat

    • @cosmicdistortion4350
      @cosmicdistortion4350 8 місяців тому +1

      yeah that makes no sense

    • @luckdeep7438
      @luckdeep7438 8 місяців тому +20

      @@eclipzz8140 They're talking about potter the coach of Evil Geniuses

    • @Surf..
      @Surf.. 8 місяців тому +27

      Demon1 was the reason they won

    • @Mommyyriah
      @Mommyyriah 8 місяців тому +18

      @@Surf.. man discrediting successful woman. Whats new huh 😱

  • @zvzzbzzdy
    @zvzzbzzdy 8 місяців тому +25

    tbh I don't think she's good enough for T1. GC is basically Tier 3-4. The only person I think can actually make it is Flor. Flor carries.

    • @Krude7676
      @Krude7676 8 місяців тому +21

      Flor is actually a biological male

    • @tidier5743
      @tidier5743 8 місяців тому

      @@Krude7676is she actually ?

    • @Krude7676
      @Krude7676 8 місяців тому

      @@tidier5743 yes he is.since he doesnt talk much in most of the his clips and played in GC i assumed he was female.

    • @DoggoDoesStuff1
      @DoggoDoesStuff1 8 місяців тому

      @@Krude7676 wait who's he??? thought we were talking about flor

    • @Haushinka0718
      @Haushinka0718 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Krude7676why is this important?

  • @n0maddd
    @n0maddd 8 місяців тому

    It's crazy the spectrum of claims and takes people are pushing while all of it is basically speculation.

  • @the7jinn
    @the7jinn 8 місяців тому +3

    bruh there''s no way MULTIPLE people from DIFFERENT teams refuse to play her because of HER gender, if its 1 then its believable you know maybe that person got the inner JasonR type beat, but multiple? seems like its worded to gain attention. Don't get the wrong idea, shit like this does happens when you are not able to have the opportunities because of sexism but that statement just sounds hella bait

  • @gabrieldiamond4607
    @gabrieldiamond4607 8 місяців тому +2

    please don't believe this until theres hard hard truth, there might be something but idk man this seems like its not the full story imo

  • @GetHasty
    @GetHasty 8 місяців тому +26

    we're really gonna sit and act like meL deserves to be in T1 over the free agents out rn? Be fr.

    • @qas2644
      @qas2644 8 місяців тому +3

      rather than she deserves to be t1,she atleast deserved to try for it no?

    • @DForre6040
      @DForre6040 8 місяців тому

      ​@@qas2644so ur saying u would provide a tryout for mel when theres people like s0m, fns, derrek, aspas saadhak lying around?

    • @gabrielguerrero4727
      @gabrielguerrero4727 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@qas2644no lmao, if she deserves a trial, might aswell trial radiant Randy's 😂😂😂 she can't even hang in t3

  • @singleyfps
    @singleyfps 8 місяців тому

    gc teams tried to qual for challengers and failed thats all ima say.

  • @sheisnotthere4835
    @sheisnotthere4835 8 місяців тому +8

    EG won champions with Potter as their head coach so I don’t think the gender is the problem, maybe her skills are not at the level yet, but who knows, maybe someday she will be able to join, but it’s all about practice, talent goes beyond the gender

    • @sixsix4867
      @sixsix4867 8 місяців тому

      Coach and player are not the same thing. One role makes the game plane amd the other is responsible for executing it

    • @prs6448
      @prs6448 8 місяців тому +6

      How can she prove her skill in trials when those tier 1 player refused to trial with her????

    • @sheisnotthere4835
      @sheisnotthere4835 8 місяців тому

      @@sixsix4867 Yes, but what I’m trying to explain is that the gender is not the problem, maybe she is not ready to be in a tier 1 organization

    • @sheisnotthere4835
      @sheisnotthere4835 8 місяців тому

      @@prs6448 is not a choice of players but the organization, there are steps, the organization needs to approve her to be able to play with the other players, she has her experience as a pro player and is not hard for them to look in her past games and realize that maybe she is not ready to play at their level, also, there are other free players that have experience in tier 1, after all, it is their job, they will choose the one with better experience

    • @prs6448
      @prs6448 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@sheisnotthere4835 how do you know someone is not ready when you are not letting that player to trial?

  • @Samvideos2021
    @Samvideos2021 8 місяців тому

    I feel florescent can be a good one to be pick but she is like 17 I think so cant play in franchising
    +there are just so many big name free agents
    But if they are not letting her try cause she is a girl it could also mean that the boys arent comfortable to spend so much time with her idk

  • @sturts1234
    @sturts1234 8 місяців тому +5

    Its crazyy🤯 but true😩 if any
    .. Female💅 player wants to play..they need a demon1👿 level of performance at champs or they wont even be considered... Its harsh🥱 but if you r anywhere middle of the spectrum its ggs for u🙇‍♂️.. Or SEN will pick you up💪.

    • @mickeymackleberry3554
      @mickeymackleberry3554 8 місяців тому +2

      I mean the gc scene is just way worse so you do need a demon1 level performance in gc for t1 orgs to want to even consider risking their org and brand on an unproven player who brings upon a potentially risky or toxic environment.

    • @whimsabo
      @whimsabo 8 місяців тому +3

      Bro why u using so many emojis 💀

    • @tidier5743
      @tidier5743 8 місяців тому +9

      Twitch chatter for sure

    • @LeafBlade3436
      @LeafBlade3436 8 місяців тому

      ​@@whimsabobrain damaged
      You can also see it from the content of the message

  • @YoLoGota
    @YoLoGota 8 місяців тому +2

    i mean why a female would practice with male they are different lvl of teams and its different competetion for both so it dosent make sens for big orgs like c9 or nrg to allow female to practice with them ?

    • @KiiDMaGiiK
      @KiiDMaGiiK 8 місяців тому

      So by your logic, we should never let a collegiate or equivalent player into T1.
      Id say the GC TEAMS are not all up to par with T1 valorant but the individual players themselves, there are def a few that could play T1 if given the chance.

    • @YoLoGota
      @YoLoGota 8 місяців тому

      @@KiiDMaGiiK no im just saying girls practice with girls boys practice with boys they are different from team style if they were mixed teams between boys and girls then they should practice together

    • @someone-xp8ii
      @someone-xp8ii 8 місяців тому

      @@YoLoGota bruh how backward is your thinking lmfaoooo

    • @YoLoGota
      @YoLoGota 8 місяців тому

      @@someone-xp8ii grow up first they type a reply

  • @Shwifty12133
    @Shwifty12133 8 місяців тому +3

    Either she was denied bc she is a woman or she was denied bc they just didn’t think she was good enough. Should at least allow her to play tho to prove herself that she is good enough for tier 1

    • @uresfffff222
      @uresfffff222 8 місяців тому +2

      There are better players than her sorry to break it to you

    • @randomguy7863
      @randomguy7863 8 місяців тому +1

      Cant even prove herself in tier2 🤦

    • @wispaz1
      @wispaz1 8 місяців тому

      did u not watch the video properly

    • @Shwifty12133
      @Shwifty12133 8 місяців тому

      @@uresfffff222 yea Ik, I just put the last part so I dont get hate fam chill

  • @N_May1
    @N_May1 8 місяців тому +59

    Its harder to believe it was of her gender if MULTIPLE/SEVERAL teams said no. If it was just one org then we got something fishy that stinks. Otherwise im not believing that multiple tier 1 orgs are sexist when Riot picked these orgs to be partnered and we know Riot would never allow a sexist organization to be partnered. They screened these tier 1 organizations for months before picking them to be partnered.

    • @mickeymackleberry3554
      @mickeymackleberry3554 8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah I've seen too many situations where the player was like up to something crazy or was just flat out not what they were looking for an then tries to pass it off as sexism for me to just insta believe this.

    • @testval
      @testval 8 місяців тому +12

      you're putting far too much faith in a company to correctly oversee and monitor every individual partner when their bottom line at the end of the day is to generate as much profit and reputation as possible.

    • @EthanKlimitz
      @EthanKlimitz 8 місяців тому

      It's crazy because she's better than a lot of the Tier 1 pros playing rn too

    • @amstronglikebull3720
      @amstronglikebull3720 8 місяців тому +7

      @@EthanKlimitz i mean what kind of tier 1 pros are we talking about because thats just not true

    • @KiiDMaGiiK
      @KiiDMaGiiK 8 місяців тому +1

      This assumption is just not true at all. They cant screen why a team said no to somebody, Riot wouldnt even know to begin with. This also happens in other esports as well. This is not surprising

  • @a.w_.
    @a.w_. 8 місяців тому +1

    Then slasher went on Twitter and said “actuallyyyyyy this is only like half true” cant stand this dude. The fact that it is true in some cases is terrible and players who are legitimately being weird and sexist should stop but the original statement really makes it seem like ALL teams are like this which is a fucked up thing to imply if it’s not 100% the truth.

  • @skritpcoolbean
    @skritpcoolbean 8 місяців тому +1

    Would you prefer players that played in ascension like zander, nismo, etc or mel. This shit aint no debate, she good but not nearly as good as other players.

  • @suprdez3617
    @suprdez3617 8 місяців тому

    Why would they settle for a female player when there are DOZENS of option better skill wise and personality wise for a team?

  • @JCLD
    @JCLD 8 місяців тому

    Yall act like this a new thing the whole reason gamechangers exists is cuz of sexism in top level valorant.

  • @OfficialKman5625
    @OfficialKman5625 8 місяців тому

    Im confused, It's not right to be sexist but I thought Males and Females have different Tier 1 leagues in Valorant

  • @gerardomacias8130
    @gerardomacias8130 8 місяців тому

    I feel valorant is the perfect mix of strategy and well ig strictly reaction mechanisms to test between men and woman

    • @gerardomacias8130
      @gerardomacias8130 8 місяців тому

      So it sucks they aren’t even curious to see if there is another difference

    • @gabrielguerrero4727
      @gabrielguerrero4727 8 місяців тому

      If she was good enough sure....but she struggles in t3/t4 scene, why does she deserve a spot over those that walk over her?

  • @gauravkapkoti1905
    @gauravkapkoti1905 8 місяців тому

    if she join any team also with 4 other boys she will leave it surely becoz of company

  • @scopezmw2
    @scopezmw2 8 місяців тому

    tarik sounds like hes shocked bro the guy know lol just admit it and pass on

  • @jaspervalorantt
    @jaspervalorantt 8 місяців тому +6

    How did JASONR get in every team??? 😂

  • @defsoul641
    @defsoul641 8 місяців тому

    Slasher really out here trying his best to cement himself as the worst source in valorant to associate with. Mel has since took to twitter to say her piece.

  • @dioyzqt
    @dioyzqt 7 днів тому

    Florescent is probably the best female val player I know

  • @ItsMeSphax
    @ItsMeSphax 8 місяців тому

    It's probably cap no way that's the reason

  • @belair5009
    @belair5009 8 місяців тому +6

    Chess has almost no physical component to it and women still cannot compete with men at the Super-GM level. Doesn’t mean they can’t be GM but Tier 1 in Valorant is the top 1% of the 1% of the 1%. There is almost never ever ever a women who is able to compete at that level against men in ANYTHING, whether it be a physical sport or an entirely mental game like chess.

  • @stinkypoo1597
    @stinkypoo1597 8 місяців тому +1

    bro people are so scared to say anything nowadays. she didn't get rejected cuz she's a woman, she got rejected because she's no where near as good as the men 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

    • @Dexisfree
      @Dexisfree 8 місяців тому

      People arent saying that cause its not what happened? Literally said one player on each team didnt want to play with her cause or her gender not cause or how good/bad/whatever she is. Get a grip!

    • @gabrielguerrero4727
      @gabrielguerrero4727 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Dexisfreenah she's clearly not good enough, gets door dash challenged against unsalaried t3 teams

  • @atheniyah
    @atheniyah 8 місяців тому +2

    im a girl and i dont think shes good enough for tier1, esp when there are so many free agents who have proven themselves before. its just a risky move but if its rly cus shes a woman (which i doubt) then it sucks

    • @gabrielguerrero4727
      @gabrielguerrero4727 8 місяців тому

      Finally a woman who thinks with her brain and not with her emotions

  • @JuicyCharon
    @JuicyCharon 8 місяців тому

    The problem is if you don't allow male players in game changers and women in the Tier 1 games, then this will happen. Open it up to everyone.

  • @poohshysty1207
    @poohshysty1207 8 місяців тому

    Wonder who these tier 1 players are hmmmm

  • @geoffreydiney4299
    @geoffreydiney4299 8 місяців тому

    I dont like this slasher guy one bit, he just does not match the same vibe as sgares. I dont know man maybe its just me

  • @suyashrahatekar4964
    @suyashrahatekar4964 8 місяців тому +3

    Isn't male and female valorant separate? Can a mid male player play in GC too. People should stop playing female card and focus on why they are being denied as a female.

    • @huggylul
      @huggylul 8 місяців тому +4

      Jit trippin. She is being denied trial... not even given the chance to attempt to prove herself. She didn't play the female card, that happens to be the reason she was denied any sort of trial

    • @slaughter2517
      @slaughter2517 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@huggylultheres need for here to prve herself she wants to join a tier 1 team now
      There are only sen,eg,c9,100t,nrg and not to mentioned the amount of t1 players available right now theres absolutely no way she would picked not to mention there are many t1 players who r going to miss the val franchised events in 2024

    • @huggylul
      @huggylul 8 місяців тому +1

      @@slaughter2517 oh ye no doubt. I'm not saying actually pick her up lul. Also in further statements slasher mentioned other factors such as buyouts, which means this is mainly from when she was on c9 white. To which I see no reason in the former system apart from the buyout and is she good enough? to not trial. But even still, a trial is a trial for a reason. No harm in giving a chance to female players 🤷. Esp if it's just a trial, if it goes well it's great, if it doesn't go on to the next player.

    • @LeafBlade3436
      @LeafBlade3436 8 місяців тому

      No they are not
      They just have a female league to make themselves feel good

    • @huggylul
      @huggylul 8 місяців тому

      @@LeafBlade3436 or to encourage participation and inclusivity. It's the same reason why the Wnba or Women's football exists lul.

  • @Supedsauce.
    @Supedsauce. 8 місяців тому

    actually

  • @tylerrobblee8038
    @tylerrobblee8038 8 місяців тому

    I do not believe Tarik would be cool with it either. Back in CS: im a major winner and you want me to play with a girl!?!?
    Ya right

  • @AneeketJMuna
    @AneeketJMuna 8 місяців тому

    A lot of factor reesult to this but i thiink the most simple one is comfortablity. Sexist yeah sure ig guys cant even ask for them being comfortable. if a grl is around guys have to be reserved in alot of ways. blantly nsulting without knowing tthe pro players reasons is dumb and inconsiderate.

  • @OnlyHTMRK
    @OnlyHTMRK 8 місяців тому

    still going from game changers to a tier 1 team is not gonna happen.

  • @bripi244
    @bripi244 8 місяців тому +5

    Guys, please stop taking Slasher's / anyone's words at face value, especially Slasher, this guy been wrong so many times idk why Sgares occasionally put him on the show

  • @googoochu3923
    @googoochu3923 8 місяців тому +1

    Why women trialing in men's competitive environment?

  • @puffoffluffedair543
    @puffoffluffedair543 8 місяців тому +1

    AND PEOPLE SAY “there’s nothing stopping women” when there is still the impression that women can’t play at the highest level but like there has never been a chance to break through that. Stop telling women what they can or cannot achieve.

    • @Spookyvalo
      @Spookyvalo 8 місяців тому

      The problem is there isnt any women players that are even as strong as any of the FA. Not even 1 GC team had made it top 30 in the U.S. as the best GC team in the world

    • @Spookyvalo
      @Spookyvalo 8 місяців тому

      Back when i played every GC team had cool ideas and executes but players just couldnt even compete against a rookie stack of immo 3-rads as salaried players. Although i only played against the top 5 GC teams so who knows maybe there is a demon1 out there- just need to actually prove themselves

    • @chendlinehomosapien
      @chendlinehomosapien 8 місяців тому

      If ur cracked enough you're getting recognized instantly whether ur a male or female brotha (before this drama I didn't even know who Mel was)

    • @Spookyvalo
      @Spookyvalo 8 місяців тому

      @chendlinehomosapien8113 well she isnt bad at all - easily top 5 for female players right now. But as i said there just isnt many experienced and strong female players in the scene because there just isnt enough players. I know some of the top players in the scene who (its messed up) pretend to be non binary/transgender for the salary

    • @puffoffluffedair543
      @puffoffluffedair543 8 місяців тому

      ​@@chendlinehomosapien Thats just not true lmfao. how can female pros get recognized? By winning GC? clearly not bc then the view is that GC is somehow too easy so excelling at that doesn't prove anything meanwhile many male FAs don't need to prove themselves at a "GC" level bc its just assumed they are better. lets not argue about how much male talent is out there in comparison bc there are just more male players in general. The issue is this constant idea of an INNATE skill gap that somehow women at a "biological" level cannot compete (this is outdated and studies show that there are negligible sex differences in skill disparity only major differences in socialization and experience). That is the fucking issue, it is outdated research and these narratives plague gaming culture. Also thats so funny its a u problem for not knowing who meL is lmfao, bro is living under a rock.

  • @williamwang9154
    @williamwang9154 8 місяців тому +2

    It’s fucked up that they won’t even trial her at least

    • @baronektran
      @baronektran 8 місяців тому +1

      do you defend dasnerf and babyj too?

  • @fahn.k.3348
    @fahn.k.3348 8 місяців тому

    It’s slasher though. I don’t believe him lol.

  • @dontreadprofilephoto5918
    @dontreadprofilephoto5918 8 місяців тому +3

    Can't blame the players, I wouldn't risk falling in love with her and ruin team dynamics TBH.

    • @remsipstea
      @remsipstea 8 місяців тому +2

      ew, thats such a strange thing to say

    • @dontreadprofilephoto5918
      @dontreadprofilephoto5918 8 місяців тому +1

      @@remsipstea this happens a lot than you think

    • @uresfffff222
      @uresfffff222 8 місяців тому +1

      @@remsipsteawelcome to the real world

    • @someone-xp8ii
      @someone-xp8ii 8 місяців тому

      she has a bf 💀

    • @dontreadprofilephoto5918
      @dontreadprofilephoto5918 8 місяців тому

      @@someone-xp8ii you'll be surprised. even married couple cheats with a coworker 💀

  • @AJ-jq3hm
    @AJ-jq3hm 8 місяців тому +2

    Ah yes definitely coz of her gender, and not coz of the fact that she got bodied by pug teams and t3 college players..or the fact that throughout her career she has been carried by transformers, like Bob and Florescent.

  • @akusemkhal
    @akusemkhal 8 місяців тому

    She hasn't given trial to see her potential impact and form chemistry with the players, t1 orgs and their players are blatantly avoiding women. But I guess they got their reasons that we dont even know. Regardless it gives a bad image to the competitive scene.

    • @gabrielguerrero4727
      @gabrielguerrero4727 8 місяців тому

      It's a bad image for t1 teams not trialing a t3/t4 player....lmao might as well trial me or some other randy if teams want to stoop that low for lower skilled players

  • @foxthroat3410
    @foxthroat3410 8 місяців тому +1

    ngl if there's a woman in T1 then what's the actually point of the Game Changers? Why in the fk riot even have a separate event for them .-. in what Tier is Game changers? T2.5? T3 and above? surely you can't call that T1.
    I blame Riot on having a separated event in the first place.

    • @Kniflex_
      @Kniflex_ 8 місяців тому

      it's not male/female. vct is mixed league. it's just all men

    • @davidwoo2254
      @davidwoo2254 8 місяців тому +5

      Tbf they would all get stomped by tier 2 teams. At least theres a GC league for them to play. Otherwise there wouldn’t be any female players. Look at league of legends the female team became a whole meme.

    • @ridikelus4413
      @ridikelus4413 8 місяців тому

      @@davidwoo2254 i still remember Vega stomping on the female team in 15 minutes lmao

    • @foxthroat3410
      @foxthroat3410 8 місяців тому +1

      @@davidwoo2254 The players in the LoL were actually trash. I watched the Game Changers and some teams can really fight. So I'm not thinking in the slightest that everyone will be stomped. If they have to prove themselves then they really should prove it. That's that.

    • @kitkat8986
      @kitkat8986 8 місяців тому

      ​@@foxthroat3410c9w were consistently stomped by no name t3 teams btw, just cuz they look good in gc doesn't mean they aren't completely outclassed in terms of mechanical skills

  • @gibsonwest7179
    @gibsonwest7179 8 місяців тому +2

    i mean you can tell she’s not close to t1

    • @entrpy978
      @entrpy978 8 місяців тому +1

      average maximilianmus fan opinion

    • @nuke3836
      @nuke3836 8 місяців тому +1

      @@entrpy978cringe anime pfp talking 🤪

    • @j-s-m
      @j-s-m 8 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@entrpy978it's true though. She's not even considered a competitive t2 player. Her team went 0-2. At best she's probably t3. There are female players far better than her at every level. Now if it is true they denied her because she is a woman that's fkd. But in all reality her expectations shouldn't be high considering her standings within her own league, which is on a T3 level.

    • @someone-xp8ii
      @someone-xp8ii 8 місяців тому

      @@entrpy978 thats RICH coming from someone with a basic ass pfp like yours

    • @entrpy978
      @entrpy978 8 місяців тому +1

      @@nuke3836 youre right, anime profile pics so much worse than being a fan of a guy who exploited mentally ill people and spread child porn on his discord server 💀💀

  • @TheHabadababa
    @TheHabadababa 8 місяців тому

    You're telling me that among the top 150 players globally there is not a single woman in a game that has like 30-40% female playerbase. It's not like women have worse reaction times or whatever would make them inherently worse at Valorant. There are 100% game changers players that would make great additions to franchising teams, it's just gamer being scared of women. Just another JasonR moment for the valo community.

  • @daotainvasion
    @daotainvasion 8 місяців тому

    can we stop sayign stuff just to be "nice" it's T1 VCT we are talking about a league where players like YAY, Trent , Net , Zander , Nismo are having a hard time finding a team and you are honestly gonna tell me that Mel is better than T1 free agents or T2 top 4 teams? come on .. just be objective

  • @konosuba350
    @konosuba350 8 місяців тому

    She should try t2 first

  • @primal9238
    @primal9238 7 місяців тому

    Realistically girls in eSports have a tough time. Even though their peers are a bunch of virgin losers (usually) that would normally get flustered talking to a woman.... they're in a boy's club. Most likely she won't be welcomed easily. Too much toxicity in gaming. Too many eSports team that excuse such behavior because someone is skilled. Realistically those big companies probably have had their own sexual harassment related issues. A lot of industries are still boy's clubs.
    Gender obviously doesn't matter. This isn't a physical sport. There's 100% gotta be girls who could compete. Heck maybe even the best player in the world is a female and we just don't know it. Gender gives you no advantage in this, so it's a toss up. All about the individual.

  • @khoaminh2101
    @khoaminh2101 8 місяців тому

    The world has to stop framing everything as sexist. You wont have the chance if you aren’t good enough and vice versa regardless of what you have between your legs. It’s still a sport at the end of the day which men are proven to be better at it from maintaining composure, skill, reaction time, stressful situations, etc. not saying all men are better but at that pro level the amount of men that are qualified are much larger than the amount of qualified female players. People need to stop playing victim and sexist card. If we use the sexist logic, say i were to ask to play with a women team as a bronze player and they refuse me, can i say that’s sexist of them not wanting to play with male player? Sounds dumb right because i dont even have the desirable skill, which also the case for the mentioned situation. Not disregarding their effort and skills which are no doubt very high compare to regular players, but in a much more competitive environment like the vct or champions where people like demon1, aspas or yay casually tapping heads with their insane reactions, there is just simply a way too large skill gap, thats why female players aren’t getting the spot. If they are truly think they can compete, record games where they drop 30 kills consistently especially games where they go against male pros and send it to the team. Prove to them you can tap heads just like the male players and they will give you a slot.

  • @NoVisionGuy
    @NoVisionGuy 8 місяців тому +1

    Nah, I think she's just making that excuse to not look bad when someone denies her to join. There's so many good IGL's in tier 1 scene, not a single one she could replace.

    • @denjii9
      @denjii9 8 місяців тому +7

      she isnt even the one who made it public

    • @huggylul
      @huggylul 8 місяців тому +6

      Bro thinks trialing = on the team. They aren't giving any opportunity meaning she can't prove herself. She didn't report on it, and why would she try and save face when she wasn't even allowed a trial ??

  • @MZclemantine
    @MZclemantine 8 місяців тому +2

    Well the fact that ppl tryna invalidate the reason of her situation being more about skill issues than her gender than trying to out which org/player spout this nonsense is kinda crazy ngl. And smh explain how inherently val community is about sexism really well

    • @suprdez3617
      @suprdez3617 8 місяців тому +2

      Or maybe the fact women divided themselves in the community by making the gc league? They fight for equality and then isolate themselves. And the excuse "nobody would let them play". Nothing is stopping them from making an all female team and competing against men.

    • @chendlinehomosapien
      @chendlinehomosapien 8 місяців тому

      I don't think it's about the gender here any cracked player will get picked up whether they are female or male and considering how many Spots are for t1 and rosters change every year you need a good performance to stay on the team or teamless so you need a good team with good chemistry why try out a t3 player when u got babyj out there and whether u like it or not the game is very much male dominant

  • @mryapper
    @mryapper 8 місяців тому +80

    Thats cringe af if they denied her just because she is a female like wtf

    • @7henn
      @7henn 8 місяців тому +49

      No pro team would deny a good player only cuz gender she is not good enough thats the problem

    • @Encest_5
      @Encest_5 8 місяців тому +15

      She’s a waste of spot they might as well get a better player not her they are not Disney

    • @rbae
      @rbae 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@7hennlmao then why don't they let her tryout

    • @walkingtree2486
      @walkingtree2486 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@rbaesurely not every org denied her tryouts, there must be a lot of orgs that did give a tryout and she wasn't selected

    • @CrAzY799999
      @CrAzY799999 8 місяців тому

      @@Encest_5 you're really missing the point huh.

  • @Nik-jz2kj
    @Nik-jz2kj 8 місяців тому +1

    I mean come on just let her trial you don't have to sign her afterwards

    • @hongmindu5023
      @hongmindu5023 8 місяців тому

      waste of time and resources, why would any player on a t1 team want to waste their time in a trial for one person. same reason why t1 orgs dont randomly trial randoms from rank ladder without a good reason. time is money

  • @gwinpro1172
    @gwinpro1172 8 місяців тому

    SEN meL?

  • @iaiirjordani13
    @iaiirjordani13 8 місяців тому

    Let’s be real. Tarik would never play with her

    • @fadex536
      @fadex536 8 місяців тому

      he brought mel to the IRL watch parties many times and he also supported GC players when T1 pros didnt want to play with GC players in Pro city. I think tarik doesnt mind tbh

    • @someone-xp8ii
      @someone-xp8ii 8 місяців тому

      ​@@fadex536 have you perhaps ever consider that pro play (tier 1 specifically in this matter) is way different than sitting and doing a watch party?

  • @sammy8796
    @sammy8796 8 місяців тому

    man, if theyre good at the game theyre good at the game, who cares what gender they are?

  • @gabrielguerrero4727
    @gabrielguerrero4727 8 місяців тому

    Why is there outrage for a t3/t4 player not getting trialed for a t1 org 😂😂😂, its not sexist, shes clearly not good enough.

  • @YkKani
    @YkKani 8 місяців тому +1

    No proof nor true

  • @zyptonical
    @zyptonical 8 місяців тому +21

    This is according to her and it's most likely not true because of 2 reasons. One is that the players would've been outed. The second is that meL is bad so trialing her is a waste of time.

    • @jorgemanzano7522
      @jorgemanzano7522 8 місяців тому +19

      you are an interesting human being

    • @uresfffff222
      @uresfffff222 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jorgemanzano7522he’s right though

  • @OnlyHTMRK
    @OnlyHTMRK 8 місяців тому

    meL is a okay player but she isn't even dominating in her league they just played vs EG and lost the series 3-1 and she was had the second worst KD in the server [ 48/66/29 ] with a -18 +/- like lets be real if yay couldn't get a spot in a t1 team in NA why should meL they aint even on the same planet in terms of talent.

  • @semperisdead
    @semperisdead 8 місяців тому

    mel blows might give flor a chance in t2 tho

  • @vikas4685
    @vikas4685 8 місяців тому

    Yeah T3 player deserves a chance when fkn T1 pros are sitting without the team.

  • @balasubramanianb2308
    @balasubramanianb2308 8 місяців тому +3

    honestly they should allow her trail so it's plain and clear how out of water it is

    • @jwlsiee
      @jwlsiee 8 місяців тому +1

      i think you overestimate how much of a difference there is between top of GC and tier 1

    • @VIXX_RV
      @VIXX_RV 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jwlsiee yea there's obviously a difference, but it's the fact she couldn't at least try out only because she's a woman.

    • @balasubramanianb2308
      @balasubramanianb2308 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jwlsiee my friend did you even watch the gc ?
      Cause I did and it's crystal clear, there performance difference between gc and t1 were day and night

    • @jwlsiee
      @jwlsiee 8 місяців тому +1

      yes i have. the top gc players would have no problem being mid table in tier 1.@@balasubramanianb2308

  • @aidenfrost10
    @aidenfrost10 8 місяців тому

    Slasher, what a waste of space.
    Also personally I think just stick to GC bro, that whole ass division is made for everyone 'not male'. If you gals were that good you wouldn't get knocked in Open Quals for Challengers.

  • @rapwastaken7983
    @rapwastaken7983 8 місяців тому

    I thought you can't have a women as a player on your team?

  • @hannibal5696
    @hannibal5696 8 місяців тому +1

    If they don’t vibe with her, I can see that, she wouldn’t stop talking when she was on Tarik’s stream for the watch along in Tokyo

  • @averagechannel4978
    @averagechannel4978 8 місяців тому +4

    of course it isnt comfortable to hang out as a team with only 1 female and it is possible that players may feel uncomfrotable to play with her which isnt wrong

  • @sarinranfa1438
    @sarinranfa1438 8 місяців тому

    jasonr was right then

  • @EdmondDantes_64
    @EdmondDantes_64 8 місяців тому

    Bro funny trying to suck up, there is no way bro playing with a female during CS days

  • @bacillusanthracis69
    @bacillusanthracis69 8 місяців тому

    Is she better than current available male players? Nowhere near as good. Even if meL was male, she wouldn't even get into tier 2.

  • @supazt
    @supazt 8 місяців тому

    Flor > Mel :D

  • @7henn
    @7henn 8 місяців тому

    Bro chill out its just a woman she is getting denied cuz she is not good enough dont bring this sexual thing in lol

  • @Jcabby31
    @Jcabby31 8 місяців тому

    is there not a womens league?