As that video was a bit old, note Finland's bewen ranked the happiest nation in the world now for at least 2 years. Also calling it "a socialist utopia" is somewhat misleading since it's simply not a socialist country. Finland is most definitely a capitalist country, but has a decent social security net.
Yeah, I don't know who calls it that. Calling Finland socialist is plain wrong. I like to think that we've taken most of the good things about socialism and implemented them to our capitalism. The progress is ongoing, nothing is perfect, not even Finland. But I do feel lucky having been born here and having lived my life in peace and safety. Kind of makes me sad seeing from our perspective how fucked up the world is so largely, but you have to count your blessings.
When I was 16 (almost 50 years ago) I was an exchange student in the US Mid West. In our social studies class, we were told that Finland is "a Fabian Socialist country". I remember protesting by saying that there is a lot of private ownership, privately held capital, and some wealthy families through inheritance in Finland. The teacher asked me: "If Finland is a capitalist country, what does that make the United States?" "Unbridled, uncontrolled hyper capitalism", I answered. Now we can see where that unscrupulous, exploitative system has taken the US in half a century! They have education chaos, health care chaos, justice/criminal system in chaos, environmental chaos... military industrial complex and Big Pharma bankrupting the country and its people, meanwhile a handful of oligarchs have become unimaginably wealthy and politically powerful. We haven't seen this tragic drama play out to the end yet.
@@creativeandaliveat65 I think that the US is on the verge of civil war unless the GOP stops fanning the flames and starts to work with the Democrats to unite the country instead of constantly dividing them further, also they desperately need to do away with the two party system and electoral college... The two party system fix would probably be automatic runoff/ranked voting system and the electoral college is already close to being rendered irrelevant thanks to democrats having gotten many states to pass a law stating that they will require their electees to vote as the people of that state vote (although most of the laws have been written such as they become active only once enough states have such laws in place as to render the electoral college completely powerless, but from what I remember from people talking about it around the 2016 elections was that they just needed one or two more states to pass the laws and they will become active which would basically make the electoral college just a symbolic institution with zero actual power and therefore be much easier to do away with completely) so the change in the right direction is already happening, I just hope it's not too slow, I'm almost 100% that the GOP insanity of these days is probably about those changes, they've been the biggest opposition to both dismantling the electoral college and of instituting ranked/runoff voting, because they know they will lose most of its power (the party will splinter into multiple parties, as will the democratic party but a direct democracy would hugely favour democrats and even if the democratic party does splinter they'll probably be much more cooperative with eachother than the GOP splinters will be, GOP doesn't exactly have much experience in how to cooperate with others effectively but have a lot of experience in how to be contrarians and would probably slip into old habits easily leading to the conservative and right wing parties not being as able of cooperating with eachother as the liberal and left wing would be) if runoff voting is instituted and the electoral college is done away with (GOP hasn't won the popular vote in presidential elections in over a century from what I remember, which is insane to think about given their elections are between two options and shows how broken and rigged the US elections are) Edit: Had to add that I'm really tired of being worried and even scared for my American friends, I'm tired of the constant stream of bad news and of the insanity of the GOP/Q/antivax mob... I know the country is mostly made up of good people but that the political system over there is so broken at this point that it needs a major overhaul to avoid the country from either imploding or becoming an authoritarian nightmare 😔 And I'm not even going to go into what the US being ravaged by civil war would mean for the rest if the world more than stating the scary fact that Russia and China would use the US being distracted to do a lot of stuff they want to do but don't dare because they know it could lead to open war and they're not crazy enough to do that, at least not yet but if the US destabilises or is otherwise distracted/not able to intervene then all bets are off with those two authoritarian nightmare regimes...
Well, I assume the video was made by a chap in the most capitalist country of all and they label their democrats as socialists so the standards are a little bit different than in this side of what the Brits call the pond.
@@Paltse yes, the perception is a bit different over there. But words have definitions and I think that if we're to be able to discuss things we should at least try to stick to definitions of words. That said socialism in particular is a pretty wide concept and not always agreed upon, but at least it shouldn't encompass capitalism.
As a swede (born and raised) with Finnish and Estonian roots(my dad is a first generational Swede as his mom was from Finland and dad from Estonia) I've been raised on as much of that culture(and it's in my DNA and my last name is Estonian). My Grandmothers father and alot of her other male relatives fought in WW2 and the winter war, and my grandfathers cousin joined the Finnish marine forces to fight the Russians. Very proud of my heritage.
@@robinlindholm1525 depends on who you ask but most would agree with you i think. i don't care either way, it's not at all important. it's a funny meme though.
@@sallyk5733 True :'D it would not be even close to 6 mark nowadays! It can be confusing to some people who still nowadays compare prices as how much would it be as marks. It just doesn't work like that.
Swedes often think that Finland had to fight in war just for that winter of 1939-1940, but after about an intermittent peace-year, the Soviet war against Finland continued from 1941 to the autumn of 1944 - which meant 5 heavy war-years for the isolated Finns. Lots of bombing. Lots of losses. Not just the first winter of war was difficult, the other winters were harsh, too, and the women had to take care of agriculture, industry, and almost all household and medical care. Children couldn't attend school normally. Housing was very scarce, because of all the destroyed buildings. Food was extremely scarce for civilians - imports were almost totally stopped. Young Finnish children were evacuated to Sweden: for many families(mothers) it was a great relief, that their small children could get food and shelter from bombs during the war-period 1939-1944, but it was also traumatic and a tragically long period of separation. The adult population was forbidden to leave (deserting) Finland even for a single day during this time, because every one had the duty to contribute to the defence-efforts by working or fighting. The normal laws were not valid any longer. Finland got war-laws instead, with death penalty for many crimes. For some the circumstances had changed so much that the children never returned, utter tragical destinies ensued. Some in Sweden believe that the mothers abandoned their children, and don't know that the mothers were both forced and persuaded to do what the Finnish state thought was the best for the children, in the face of food scarcity and bombing. The first winter of war, has got the name "Vinter-kriget" or "Talvi-sota" - where the Finnish determination to defend the country astonished the whole world, including the Soviets, so the term has got stuck. The Finns used many tactics that were unusual - such as guerilla-technics (Sissi-sota) and even the simple device "Molotov-cocktails" against tanks, and such like - these tactics were used until the bitter end in 1944. As an example of guerilla warfare my uncle and his reconnaissance groups were skiing far into Russian Carelia to spy and sabotage against the enemy. www.amazon.co.uk/fj%C3%A4rrpatrullerna-Norrg%C3%A5rds-f%C3%A4rder-Kuismanen-1941-1944/dp/9515232309 The most cruel phase of the war was when the Finnish land army hade to retreat from the Carelian Isthmus, between Lake Ladoga and the Gulf of Finland in the summer of 1944. The battles took many months and caused the Finns defeat after defeat. It was horrible beyond words and many young soldiers couldn't stand it, and so tried to escape, but as deserteurs they were shot by their own. Many got both limbs and mentall health totally destroyed. One can't wonder how much Finns have wanted to be neutral and no part of any wars after that. The last phase of the last war years, was getting the German troops, that had come to fight a last battle against the Soviets, out of Lapland, and they did retreat, but they did set forests, villages, and towns on fire on their way out, which has left bitter scars.
@@DNA350ppm Yes, Finland fought bravely and tried to defend the country. We are known for being stubborn, it probably helped a lot. The lives of all these children of war are so sad, many have suffered all their lives even though they were protected from the war here in Sweden. My grandfather was in the Winter War and the Continuation War but then his lungs collapsed and he ended up in hospital for several months. The shrapnel in the head did not make things better. He was never in Lapland and fought. Grandma was a so-called "lotta" during the wars, like many other women. Finland has suffered enough and I hope that the country will never have to fight again. Of course, I do not hope that Sweden will be forced to defend our country either.
Bryson, I suggest you to watch - The Unknown Soldier - movie. If you haven´t already ;) I liked the last one that was released in 2017. (there are 2 old ones) It will give you a sense of what it was like during the war(s), how the Finns fought for their country.
@@Jonsson474 Sure, but that theory is still far off. Most likely it comes from the Proto-Indo-European word źēmē, which means ground. Loanword into Proto-Finnic as šämä -> into Proto-Baltic sāma- -> into Proto-Germanic sōma- -> into Finnish suomi. If so, the word for Sámi (Sápmi, Sábme, Sámeednam, Saepmie, Sábmie, Säämi, Sääʹmjânnam...) and Tavastia (Häme) all come from the same word.
@@Daothes Yes, that is what Finnish people would figure out at first, but that theory is not true. Then people might think further that Suomi and Saame (Finnish word for Sàmi) probably come from the same origin, and that might be actually true.
Said it before and I'll say it again: You gotta love a country that has a word for sitting at home in your underwear getting drunk. Here's to you Finland!
I'm Finnish, and here most of the people are not always drunk, for example I never drink. Your statement is the same as if someone claimed that all Swedes are gay, which is also not true.
Thanks @Rybentor and @SharksAttack - my point exactly. I've seen both reindeer, deer, elk and moose etc in the wild here, so i sure know the difference. :)
Sorry to break it for you but it’s not valkohäntäpeura but saksanhirvi/isokauris (red deer), it’s bigger than white-tailed deer and it has waaay bigger horns.
Also, you have to go preeeetty up north to see a reindeer. Said animal is something at least 99,5 % of us do not see every day. What's more, there are no polar bears in Finland, except for the zoo. Bears, wolves, wolverines, lynxes - no polar bears. Or Russian tanks.
A little correction about the WW II situation and the Continuation War. Finland was NOT a 'loose ally'. Finland and Germany were _co-belligerents_. Meaning, Finland had received military training and assistance from Germany, but was not a Nazi country, nor was it formally allied, simply 'attacking together' or co-ordinating up to a point.
If you coming to Helsinki, it gotta be sometime during June/July if you want an optimal trip (unless you happen to like cooler weather, I do, but also I'm used to it here). Think that applies to all of the Nordic countries to a certain extent, if you wanna see the big cities, best time is probably during summer, if you wanna see the Arctic circle, all the snow northern lights etc, it's winter all day long.
As the northern lights actually are there all the time, you could be lucky to spot them already, but the chances are greater when the sky is darker. It is the same with stars and "shooting stars". We have wonderful opportunities to see the Milky Way in all its splendour if get away from city and street lights already in September in southern Finland and Norway, and in the Southern Middle of Sweden. I have seen Northern lights in southern Finland both in September and in March. They are green and slightly lime-yellow, slightly swaying as curtains in an open window in a breeze. Compare how far North the 61st latitude is! Helsinki, Stockholm, Oslo, and Anchorage (AL), all almost on the same line as the heart of Siberia.
there are some good videos about the Winter War, the best one in my opinion is from the channel Sabaton History and the name of the video is Talvisota - The Winter War - Sabaton History 006
Finland is in many ways the Nordic country that resembles the USA the most. There's a strong President that has the last word in many matters. Finland has the harshest capitalist system of them all - if you could choose where among them, to become unemployed, or homeless, you wouldn't choose Finland. Finns are pressed to manage on their own, that takes a psychological toll on the people, too. There's education for all, so you have no excuses, for not making a decent living. There are many great advantages with Finland. The humour, the creativity, the tolerance about being a distinct individual and special - for example the word "original" about a person means weirdo in Sweden, but an interesting person you'd like to know, in Finland.
Finland, the happiest country in the world for 4 years in a row (2018 - 2021). Most likely because we have universal healthcare, free education all the way & through university level, great social security, unemployment & retirement benefits, clean air, water & soil, not to mention "sisu", which means that we never give up no matter what. And finally, a lot of space as the population density is only 42/sqmi, which is about 48% of that of U.S..
Finland showed the whole world what Sisu means when, between 1939 and 1945, Finland fought 3 wars. Winter War 1939-40, and the Continuation War 1941-44 against the Soviet Union and Lapland War against Germany 1945. ( Germany occupied Norway in WW2). An interesting short video about the Finnish education system: "A Documentary on Finland's Schools"
There is an old saying, Sweden always fight until last Finn. You are right, all of the Nordic countries are the same,. No border control, you can work in any of them, you get the same benefits in all of them, like healthcare. you just get taxed by the country you are in, like anyone else who lives in there. You can use Euros in here.
Goodmorning from Norden! You know we learn a lot, too, with the wide variety of your videos. Yes, some years manage to be duct-taped into my teflon-memory, too. The history before the war 1808-1809 betweeen Russia in Sweden is blurred to me, because there were wars, wars, wars, and kings, kings, kings... But in 1809 Sweden lost most of the territory that now is Finland, and this former part of Sweden became a rather independent part under the czar of Russia, but the laws, church, administration, and all everyday habits continued to be the same as under Swedish rule. This was because Czar Alexander I was smitten by ideologies about "development" and "enlightenment", which were popular modern thoughts at the time. These were the same reasons as for you in the US, having the French inspiration for your Declaration of Independence. This was very lucky for Finland, because Alexander I treated Finland as an example for the rest of Russia to follow. (His aristocracy was rather not so keen on being less powerful, they owned the people on their vast dominions, at the time, and feared revolutions as much as other landed lords in all Europe.) Then there was the welcome a hundred years of peace for Finland, but there were other difficulties enough, famines for example. In 1917, during the very instable early winter for Russia, Finland declared independence, under the rule of the Finnish senate in Helsinki. The first country to accept and acknowledge this independence was Russia under Lenin, he presumably had enough trouble in Moscow and St Petersburg already. Maybe he also really believed in national independency according to language and traditions? After his disinterest in ruling Finland, western countries were ready to acknowledge Finland, too. Now being an independent country, the most tragic war for Finland started, because it was a war within the country about the constitution, about how the new country should be ruled/governed - as a monarchy like Sweden, as a western capitalist democracy like France, or as a proletarian socialist union like the new Soviet Union? This internal war resembled the Civil war between South and North in the USA in its huge splitting impact. The Soviets kept out. In 1939-1944 (World War 2) there was almost constant war between Finland and the Soviet Union (except for a short period for parts of 1940 and 1941). Since the autumn 1944 there has been peace, the date for peace acknowledged in/by Finland is the 4th of September 1944. Those who love war history continue to discuss these 20th Century conflicts still to this day. But I'd say most Finns have now been very proud of being a neutral democratic independent country since then, with some economic ties to both East and West. Staying neutral, with Sweden and Germany as the most important business partners, while having business agreements with the former enemy in the east, which for a long time were politically both important and sensitive. Finland uses Euro, which means the currency being regulated by the Central Bank of Europe and the European Union. Finland is not a member of NATO, like Denmark, Iceland, and Norway. Sweden is not a member of NATO, either, and still manages its currency (the Swedish krona - crown) independently, but Sweden chose to join the EU with a small margin of votes, while Norway by a small margin of votes declined to join the EU. There are other treaties to regulate the relations. You'll soon see how much Finns are ready to debate and argue about these questions, it might become very fierce about historical details.
Not unlike = same - this puzzles me, too. :-) So I make it clearer: Denmark, Iceland and Norway are members of NATO, which is a European - North Atlantic defence collaboration) whereas Finland and Sweden are not, but citizens do discuss joining on UA-cam and social media, especially when the armies have some joint exercises. NATO is an abbreviation for The "North Atlantic Treaty Organization" (and lots of countries with no Atlantic coast have joined).
Suomi, comes from Finnish word; Suo, and suo means swamp in English. And in here Finland, there is many swamps. If you wanna see more good tv-shows from Finland, Madventures is one of the best traveling tv-show from Finland (wikipedia: Madventures (Finnish TV program) - Wikipedia ) Madventures have traveled around the world 3 times, within the borders of Finland 2 times in many places, and they have done much more things, about many things. But, here is very first Madventures episode; Madventures Season One - Episode 1 - Nepal - English Subs - UA-cam , and you can find more episodes from here UA-cam, about this show, and other Finnish shows.
Finland is a Nordic country and The member of Nordic Council. The Nordic countries are: Finland🇫🇮 Sweden🇸🇪 Norway 🇸🇯 Denmark 🇩🇰 and Iceland 🇮🇸. The flags tell all of it.
I Remember Finlands 100th birthday from the mountain they got from Norway (but never really got, and that debacle =) - but as a Dane i am glad they do not have a mountain either =P at least we have that in common still =D however, I would love for them to have their mountain too - that said - I remember when we had the 4 countries, having shows for kids and still never understand the Finn when he/she spoke Finnish =P (I am a 1980's baby =)
We do have other mountains but the highest point of Finland is on the side of the Halti mountain, on the border of Norway and Finland. The top of that mountain is 2km on Norways side and there was a small campaign to get Norway to gift that land to Finland but they refused based on their constitution.
Nah, something by Children Of Bodom, half of their songs are somewhat horror themed... And much heavier than Nightwish (or as some of my friends used to call is Nightpiss 😂)
Vikings!? I assume there were vikings there because of proximity. But one doesn't really think about vikings when they think of Finland, unless you're just lumping us all together up here. I love the historic and current bond we have with Finland. And Finland is a bit of an outsider not being Scandinavian and having a completely different language from the rest of the Nordic countries. I really wanna go there some day, to my neighbor, (I'm Swedish). Yeah, Nordic includes Iceland, Greenland and Faroe Islands as well. But Greenland and Faroese Islands are part of Denmark anyway. Hahaha the way he said Suomi. "Sowami" XD Just remember that Finland just recently turned 100 years. That's so young for a country! But of course they had a "Finnish" people and culture before that. You should react to a video about Simo Häyhä, amazing hero. Haha, yeah Finland takes Euro, they said it in the video they use it. But Sweden doesn't even though we're in the EU.
@@XtreeM_FaiL True, but we been mixed up when finns were part of sweden 500+ years. Result like me who's background can be tracked into mid 16th century where swedes man found himself from finland and married finnish lady.. rest is history. 😅 I would like to be a pure finn, but I can't since dna shows still fairly good % of swedish genes.
We have Fettisdagen / Fastelavn(sdag) in SE, DK and NO, February or March (7 weeks b4 Easter day, just like Carnival? =) - At least in DK that is the "Dress up day" like Halloween and where we go to do, something a bit like, trick or treat - However - we have 2 now, as Halloween has become part of our culture too, and will so more in time (any chance of party and having fun? Yes please =) and in Halloween its Trick or treating as best we know how... It gets better (in time) =D
The saunas of Finns and Swedes perfectly describe their differences in character. The Finnish sauna is about 100 degrees and ice water, or a cold shower after that. Swedish "sauna": people complain if the degrees of the sauna rise above 70 degrees.
@@Gamleman I believe you. But: "You could even read Dagens Nyheter on the upper benches of the South Swedish sauna, because the heat in the sauna was only 50-60 degrees. 50 degrees is too cool to be a sauna at all. In 1999, the International Sauna Association specified that the temperature in an official sauna should be at least 80 degrees."
@@mikorossi1959 Sure there are some that cant take the heat, just as you say, but i believe those are mostly from the southern parts of the country. But I also have to say that i wouldnt be surprised what any paskahousut reading Dagens Nyheter do.. ;)
@@mikorossi1959 Not sure where you got the 50° from. the normal sauna range in Sweden is 75°-90°. Perhaps it's from someone that have mistaken a Steam Bath (40°-45° and 100% humidity) that you can find on some spa:s and hotels with a sauna?
Thank you for that, it wasn't easy time for Denmark either. If we should learn something from WWII it is that we should grow NORDEFCO larger and more comprehensive union.
@@duhni4551 i agree! Many of the volunteers came to hate the Russians so much for what they had done to Finland that they, unfortunately, joined the newly formed "Frikorps Danmark" which was a Danish regiment (a part of the Waffen SS) to fight the Russians (and only them) on the eastern front! They thought they were doing something good so - on their first leave in Denmark - they were surprised to find out that they were hated amongst the Danes, because they helped the much hated Germans
@@benthansen3415 Well, unspoken thing of history is that without the volunteer troops on Eastern Front, most likely most of the Europe would have fallen in hands of Soviet Union. In the end it was race against the time which side, West or East reached most of the Europe. Without the delay Eastern Front provided, Danish would speak Russian today. We here in Finland chose the lesser evil and fought against Soviet Union. Also history revealed that it was a right call. So don't feel ashamed or regret the history of your country, you wouldn't have one without the troops fighting with Germany.
Some pointers, the reson Finland got its independence in the 1900,s was due to the fact that Finland did not star to get a national awareness until 1809 when Sweden was split in two due to a result of the napoleonic wars. (As stated complicated) during the 1800s Sweden sought to get Finland back as it saw it as a part of Sweden while finish self awareness started to growing before that fins were as much Swedes as the people in what’s to day modern Sweden. The mentioned klubbewar or rebellion was not a rebellion for independence. And late in the video Sweden was shown as part of NATO this is wrong Sweden was not part of NATO tho we did lean towards the west as it were, that being said our relations whit the US during the 60s and 70s and part of the 80s where strained to say the least. As always Thanks for a fun and entertaining video :)
Not unlike seems like a good phrasing. Maybe we can use that in another afsnit. Humor aside. The system they have in Finland is close to what we have in Denmark and Sweden, but there is also differences. The biggest is of course that while Denmark and Sweden are modern and so have monarchies, while Finland have gone with a Republic.
Indeed - Denmark, Sweden and Norway have managed to combine monarchy (ceremonial) with modern democracies, Finland and Iceland are democratic republics with Presidents.
Intresting to hear that somebody thinks so from Euro bills. As an Finn I visited 2017 Kolumbia. When I left I told girl at Bogota airport shop that could you exchange to me different bills from Kolumbian money. She did and I have similarly now saved them..
Quite a lot of info that could be more of the content creators own deduction of things than actual facts. It's like a timeline of history i know well, but everything is a bit off..
The thing about Finland declaring independence in December 1917 is that it is the same year the Soviet Union was created in the October Revolution. The czar had been executed and the bolshevik leaders, Lenin &co. were conveniently distracted so they let the declaration of Finland's independence slide by without taking too much notice.
Well yes but it's rather the same year the Russian Empire fell and that also logically ended the Grand Duchy of Finland so that claiming independence was quite logical. And one could add that the about 10.000 Russian families in Finland preferred to stay in Finland and become Finnish citizen. Some Russians claim that Russia gave Finland it's independence as Lenin was asked about it by a Finnish delegation to Russia and he was unable to say no. But I think he thought Finland would join later.
The Euro IS the currency of Finland. What you just said is like me saying California accepts U.S. dollars. The U.S. dollar IS the currency of California (and the other 49 states) just as the Euro is the currency of France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium, The Netherlands, Austria, etc. etc.
Thousand lakes that is, even though Finland don't have that number of lakes 🙃. It is a beautiful country to visit. I was there in 2010, just to see the band I'm writing about here. One of my absolute favorite bands are from Finland.... AMORPHIS!!! They base much of their lyrics on the the Finnish mythology Kalevala, which btw is well worth reading. I actually put the vocalist Tomi Joutsen who joined the band in 2004-2005, amongst the world's top 5 within this category. He's even better live than on the studio albums. Check out this link from a consert where they play my favorite song Black Winter Day. Here you can also hear how Finnish language sounds when he talks to the audience. ua-cam.com/video/twfj41kQeds/v-deo.html
@@mattisavolainen9255 Yeah I know 🙂. I actually got to know this back in 1996 when I started listening to the awesome band AMORPHIS with their second album, "Tales from the thousand lakes".
When Sweden lost Finland was a bit more complicated than that. Russia were supported by France and Sweden were supported by the Brits. Russia attacked Sweden and took Finland. Some time later France attacked Russia and ended up on the same side as the Brits. Sweden kicked out the current king and elected a new one. This new king did not have any children witch meant no heir. After a while he adopted a French marchal, Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, who became the crown prince of Sweden under the name Karl Johan, later Karl XIV Johan as king. One idea were that he would join the French who seemed unstoppable at this time and retake Finland. This French marchal might have known something about the state of the French armed forces that other people didn't know but he joined the British side instead, against France. That meant that Russia and Sweden ended up on the same side and that meant some problems with retaking Finland ... Anyway, Napoleon lost and since Sweden's arch enemy Denmark were allied with France, Sweden got Norway as a compensation for losing Finland. And the rest is history ...
I got a question for you! How do you now see on your fellow americans that don't know as much as you? or even tries to show an interest in the world outside
Moi ja kiitos for watching & commenting. At the time I made this video I had no idea how to begin saying words in Finnish. I've been practicing almost daily the past couple months and know a couple hundred words now and can put basic sentences together with those words. I also have my numbers down all the way to the millions. I test myself by picking a random number like 36,751. I have to say it and write it out on paper to ensure I have the spelling correct too. Have a great day!
Video was interesting and entertaining, decent production and narrator. Anyway, right at the start gate it start with (bigger and smaller) mistakes and errors in terminology and words. That made it look like that it was made half-ass in those areas, to audience who they think know absolutely nothing about issue...that made it afterall look rathet cheap... "Based on their language, the Finns are often associated with the Uralic peoples, but it is important to distinguish between linguistic and ethnic concepts." "The Finnish language belongs to the Finno-Ugric branch of the Uralic language family. This linguistic group covers several languages spoken by peoples from Russia, Hungary and Northern Europe" "Ethnically, however, Finns are not unequivocally "Uralians". Finns, like most European nations, are genetically a mixture of different populations that have settled in Finland over the centuries and millennia. This makes the ethnic background of Finns complex and multi-layered"
Finland is a capitalist country. It has got a free market economy. The forests are 75% owned by privates sectors. Also properties. Finland has got percentually more small private businesses than US etc. Finland is a free and independent country. If the education and healthcare are free( not compeletly) it does not mean the country is socialist. Every country should have that stuff free. By The Australia's healthcare is even more free and better.
Finnish people like to make fun of swedes but I think we were lucky to be under Swedish rule for so long. Otherwise Finland would be more like eastern European countries who were under Russian influence or rule. I was born and raised in Finland but I did live in Sweden for a long time as well. Was very interesting to experience the cultural differences as I am both Finnish and Swedish.
Suomi.... Suo=Swamp. Finland is 11% lakes and 20% swamps. But Suomi does not mean "land of the lakes" and it should be "land of the thousand lakes" (~188k). Should I list all the corrupted data here? :P
Finland has a welfare state like Scandinavia. Finland has a slightly different one because the geography is different and their industry is different, and most importantly it was formed at a time when the needs were very different. There is a much larger emphasis on the education system for example. The welfare state of Denmark and Sweden started before WW2 just after the great depression. Finland only got on that path in the 1950's and Norway could replicate Sweden and Denmark after they got all that oil money in the 1960's and 1970's.
technically not nordic noir but kinda close .. i would recommend shadow lines its relatively newish spy-drama taking place during the cold war in Helsinki
You use 'not unlike' when you mean like (as in similar not exactly alike), but feel it might give the wrong idea, since there are major differences. So, B isn't unlike A, but it isn't exactly A either. Also note the video as aged a bit, we have ranked number one happiest country for a few years now, just slightly ahead of Denmark
Yeah, that's amazing, taking into account that Finns are a very critically minded people! Exact and truthful. It is difficult for Finns to agree just to be polite and contribute to the harmony in a group. But few nationalities have such appreciation for humour and fun as the Finns. I love that trait. If Finns would have invented the Olympics, they would be much more fun to watch!
@@DNA350ppm Totally agree! Finns are funny ppl and they appreciate humor, although it can be pretty raw sometimes hahaha. Finns are very honest ppl and Very direct. That is one of traits I appreciate the most, no bullshit with Finns :D
@@DNA350ppm I don't think that first part is completely true. It is fine to keep quiet on unimportant things, just to keep to ball rolling, even if you do not agree to it. It doesn't mean you have to subscribe to the idea yourself. "If you don't have anything important and relevant to contribute, then stfu" is a very common saying in Finland (in Finnish ofc) However, offering your opinions, especially to correct and improve the proposed opinion is perfectly fine in any situation no matter what your mutual standing is. As long as you are making a point and know what you are talking about. However, Finns who alter their opinion just to please the group, or the "dominant" person's opinion, are called "mielistelijä" (basically like a brown-noser, but not exactly the same) are viled and pitied. Nobody likes those, but it is often considered rude to point it out to them, since it is most likely due to desperation to fit in, personal trauma or some such disadvantage the other might have.
@@Songfugel Yes, you have to balance with Finns, between being quibbling and direct/truth-loving. And you sure can always keep your mouth shut, OK, almost always, but if you disagree let your eyebrows show it, even if you keep quiet. :-D
The original video you reacted to wasn't a very good one, lots of mistakes and important omissions. Links aren't allowed so can't inform of better ones, similar to this but much more factual. Oh well, it is what it is, the most viewed ones always win, no matter how bad they are.
Aren't links allowed? I wanted to suggest 10 Pretty Decent Inventions From Finland by Wildwood Vagabond on UA-cam. (She means innovations!) Cool! What happens if I add the link here ua-cam.com/video/upKS3uwS25Q/v-deo.html
@@DNA350ppm That seems to show just fine, maybe because it's a youtube link. I have tried a couple of times to link to streamable ("competitor") to youtube and they are blocked. Although the channel owner can control which links to allow, or block everything.
@@pundewhee Thank you for the kind response! Sometimes my comments have been rejected and I have not understood why - the links could have been the reason, because I have never tried to comment something improper, that is, if spelling and grammar errors don't have messed it up for me. English is difficult! Sigh!
@@DNA350ppm The comment blocks/hides are automatic, channel owner can only approve them later manually. Some curse words are automatically blocked so your comment won't show at all, only to yourself, and some (or all, depending on channel settings) links too. Now that I think about it, links may also be blocked only on top level comments on a video, but not on replies like now. I'll actually test it right now, sorry for another reply to you soon!
"I'll actually test it right now, sorry for another reply to you soon!" nope, still doesn't work. Tried to comment with a streamable link, no curse words, nothing. Doesn't show. Thanks for your patience while I was testing this :)
@@ssc00p What we were taught in my school was that any English accent is valid as long as we where consistent. Mixing Afro-American Vernacular English with Canadian, Scottish or Australian English could in other words lead to a serious reduction in your grades. But yes, AAVE was and is every bit as valid as any other form of English, be it American or otherwise. Double negatives included. However if you go for it you better be consistent and follow the rules of the accent.
I never get it why when talking history of this region, people talk about Finland as it was a nation or a country when the crusades started. There was no Finland back then. It was as mentioned early, an are populated by different different tribes. Some of them had cultural similarities but there was no central governing or official unity. It wasn’t until several hundred years after the crusades that the word Finland or Suomi was being used regularly. The Finnish tribe arrived from the Urals (in today’s Russia between the Volga, Oka and Kama rivers) quite late to the area, during the migration period around 400 AD. There were definitely other tribes living there before the Finns arrived, like Scandinavians and the Sami and people had been living in the area for thousands of years before that. After the crusades, when Sweden took control over the area, it was made a fully integrated part of Sweden called Österland (Eastland). Österland was considered the eastern half of Sweden, with the same rights and obligations as the rest of the kingdom. When people in the area were fighting the Swedish wars, they were fighting for their country, not “for the swedes”. There had never been another country in the area. It wasn’t really until the eastern half of Sweden was lost to Russia in the war of 1809 that people started to consider creating a new country and see themselves separate to Sweden. The history of this country is very complex and often misunderstood. Sometimes deliberately in order to fuel nationalism. A very young nation with a relatively recent civil war behind it needs to build a national identity and unite it’s people over something. The video is interesting but unfortunately no very accurate on many points. Still enjoyable though.
I would almost give this video credit for mentioning that there were only loose tribes when the crusades came. Not even that is usually mentioned. That said, a lot more could of course be explained.
Actually you have your information quite wrong. Finland has been settled over 10 000 years by not Indo- Europeans but by people living around Baltic area before Finnish area was livable. Uralic influence came around 5000 years ago but it shows only in paternal line, maternal line is same line that came to France from Middle- East roughly 50 000 years ago, moved to East from there and to Baltic area from there. You see, Finnish people are unique in Europe as we are not Indo- Europeans like Scandinavians and most of the Europeans are, for the isolation we have remained to be pretty much the same Europeans that have been inhabiting Europe before Indo- Europeans began to spread all over Europe. This makes Finnish people DNA studies favorite target, we are easy to study since our heritage is almost intact and thus not so complicated to study. Also history of Finland as a country we now know it goes back to Swedish rule. I can't remember the name of the Swedish officer but he did something to piss of the court and was "banished" to Finland. In Finland he began to build independent Finland because of his own greed, he managed to build even first official Finnish army protecting only Finnish area before he died, but it was him who formed the ethnic sense to national sense which began to grow from that point, so Finnish independence is actually his heritage. When Finland became part of Russia, Finland already had sense of nationality, ready plans for currency (which was Mark), own laws, policies, foreign policies, governmental structure and so on. Russia didn't want to make Finns to be angry neighbors so they went along with it and made Finland autonomous part of their Empire, they didn't build Finland to be autonomous part of their Empire though the autonomy allowed Finland to grow independence safely and in peace with the support of the Empire (until the Empire turned against Finland). Also i should mention that Finnish soldiers didn't fight for Sweden nor for Russia either, they fought for them selves as they were rewarded their own farm if they managed to survive the service. This is well recorded but also becomes quite clear when you listen Finnish marching songs of the time. So in short: 1. Finnish people comes from Baltic area and Urals, we are not Indo- Europeans even a bit. 2. Finnish national sense began to grow under Swedish rule 3. Finnish soldiers were newer loyal to Sweden nor Russia, they were loyal to their families
Finnish tribes didn't arrive all the way from the Urals in the 400s, they came from Estonia and other areas south of the Gulf of Finland. Ancestors of Finns, Estonians and other Baltic Finnic people had been south of the Gulf in the eastern Baltic for millennia by the time of the Finnish migrations began. They just never bothered to go north into Finland and the migration of the 400s was likely tied to the widespread migrations of the Migration Period. Although this is just my own theory, I am not sure if actual theories on the two being linked exist.
Ha told you it was a mess our Nordic history is so messy and violent in so many ways. You coming from a "young" country I can imagine it be a lot but most if not all of European history is long bloody and a confusing mess of wars, backstabbing and intrigue. Not unlike is like saying its a lot alike but still different in some key subjects
There’s numerous videos about Simo Häyhä and the history of Molotov cocktail on You Tube, if you’re interested in WWII history but then there’s this: ua-cam.com/video/MRHm26fKKb8/v-deo.html That just makes me laugh out loud every time.
I say it was a short lecture about Finnland, not that many faults! Wathever coments, Finnland was a part of Sweden befor 1809, ruled by Swedish nobilaty. Then it come to be a Grand duchy ounder Russia, its this, Finnland proper was shaped by Swedisch kings. In anyway, some stupid swedich king thougt that its good idea to make war aginst the new Russian kingdome, and lost both Finland and Åland. In the Russian revolution, Finnland break free and got there own republic. Then WW2, it was a strugle, siding whith germany, they soon recon that Germany wouldnt win the war, and get a peace with Russia, and still keept there indipendensy and some punshment for siding whit germany, lost some land and have to pay some to SSR, and was obligated to sign a friendship agreement on Sovjet terms! It was both bad and good, a lot to pay, but they altso could do bussines to SSSR, and the could even buy Sovjet military equipment, the only western country that could buy Sovjet top of the art Sovjet military hardware! Anyway after WW2 there was a major effort to form a Nordic council, free trade, freedome of movment, every Fenno scandinavian countrys signed up to that, even befor EU.. and it worked, so now even Estonia tryes to be a member of the Nordic council, becuse they are cousines to the finns, kind of similar language, culture and origin. And the biggest minority in Finnland is Swedes, there are even som south west parts there they only speak swedish.
The biggest minority are the Fenno-Swedes meaning Swedish speaking Finns. They make up around 5% of the total population and most live in a few cities along the coast line. There are no only Swedish speaking cities in Finland. (Obviously not talking about Åland here) If you compare that to the biggest minority in Sweden who are Finnish people meaning Finnish speaking Finns, you can see that there is a big difference there. :) Many Swedes do also have Finno-Ugric ancestry especially in northern Sweden. Colonisation really is a horrible thing and the main reason why most Finno-Ugric people in Russia, Norway and Sweden have been ethnically whiped out.
@@anni8456 Thanks for corecting me. And I like to change my words, (there are areas there many people think of them as Fenno--Swedes and mostly speak swedich)? The two moste swedich speaking dens areas in the world supose to be, Åland and Närpes, both in Finnland. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A4rpes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85land_Islands In anyway those finns that got in the swedich border started to learn swedish but at home they still spoken ther old north finish dialect, now they cal it Meäkienli. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me%C3%A4nkieli So for what im reading, on one side of Torne river they speak standard finish and on the swedish side they speak meänkeli?
@@stiglarsson8405 Thank you for the reply. :) you’re correct on Åland and the municipality of Närpes as well. On most maps the whole Ostrobothnia region is marked as Fenno-Swede which is incorrect. Meänkieli is really similar to Finnish just like Kven in Norway and Ingrian around the St Petersburg area in Russia. A native speaker can understand it almost completely. Most of the words are what I’d describe as ”old” so a bit more similar to how old people speak in Northern Finland. Finnish in Northern Finland and Meänkieli were pretty much the same until Russia occupied Finland in 1809 and the areas became devided by an actual border.
@@anni8456 Thanks again, becuse I was refering to those maps, lets say they are historicaly corect, but not any more? Its this, north sweden was populated by finns and sami people, moste of them have been assimilated to be swedich speaking, even in Tornedalen and by sami. In any way, both Sami and Meänkieli is now recognited as Official minority langues, and there are more and Finnish is the biggest, and moste spoken. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_minority_languages_of_Sweden Soo, both Meänkeli and Sami got a revival. Its still a lot more finnisch ancetryes in Sweden, and then I talk about "Forest finns", they have all been assimilated, the only distinction one can do is on there surenames and the region that are cald "Finnskogarna". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Finns And I have ancestors from Pedersöre, but this was several generations ago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peders%C3%B6re In another way, Sweden and Finnland have almoste been good friends, (mayby not when sweden concured Finnland) but after that?
Suomi does not mean "Land of Lakes". It's just a nickname and even then it's wrong. It's Land of 10 000 Lakes, which is funny because 38 000 would be way more accurate. The thing is, NOBODY knows the full etymology of "Suomi". There are multiple theories, but none have an upper hand over the others really. The most accepted meaning is "Land of Swamps", coming from the words "suo" in Suomi, or Fenn in "Finland". Also, nobody but the nerdiest of Geology nerds care about the difference between Scandinavia and Nordic. Most Finns even wouldn't know the difference.
"Also, nobody but the nerdiest of Geology nerds care about the difference between Scandinavia and Nordic. Most Finns even wouldn't know the difference." I don't agree with that...
You're a little off. 1) Finland has around 188 000 lakes, not 38 000. 2) The most accepted origin of "Suomi" is that it's derived from the word "zeme", meaning 'land' or 'region' in proto-Balto-Slavic. But you're right that *nobody* knows for sure. However, it is known that the word "suomi" was used in more southern Finland way before it was used in more swampy Central/North Eastern Finland, suggesting the association with swamps is a stretch. 3) Even the people on Vauva(dot)fi know that Finland is Nordic and not Scandinavian, and that's a web-forum not particularly celebrated for it's users' diligence for scientific accuracy. While obviously not *every* Finn knows this - like babies, for example - claiming it's something only the nerdiest of geology nerds know is incorrect.
About Socialism Since everybody keeps saying that the Scandinavian countries are socialist countries - which they are not - isn't it funny that they are all among the top five happiest countries? It is almost as if this 'secret' is as dangerous to the world at large, as democracy was to neighbouring countries back in the days of the French and the American revolutions against monarchy. Because power is as simple as that.
I actually do not like it either.. I always felt like September is when the Autumn decorations come out. October is Halloween. November is Autumn/ Thanksgiving. December 1st is when the Christmas tree and lights are displayed. The stores here will take down all of the Halloween beginning in October and everything Christmas will be available before Halloween itself. I don't like it like that at all
Props to this video for differentiating Swedish Finland from Finland, since contrary to many revisionists in Finland and Sweden, Finland was NOT Sweden, ever. Finland belonged to Sweden, but as a colony. Sweden never wanted Finland to be considered official main part of Sweden with equivalent rights and such, but they were VERY clear Finland was their colony. The main difference why this distinction is important, is that Finland had no say in the colonialism and nation building of Sweden, except being one of its victims and the exploitation of Finland was what funded most of the Swedish war efforts. Even in times of repeated famines that devastated Finland, Sweden was still taxing 50% of everything produced in Finland to be directly transported to Sweden. Finnish people also didn't have almost any rights or permission to even do trade. The ruling class in Finland at those times were all Swedish speaking, and Finnish was not allowed in church or any official interactions. This lasted until the very last years, when Sweden was about to lose Finland to Russia, they started to make concessions and they had the first King to actually visit Finland for the first time and was sympathetic to the Finnish people, which was a fact that caused him to be considered insane by the Swedish court. Finland was a crucial part of the Empire of Sweden, but it was never the same as Sweden itself. Finnish culture as is today, also didn't evolve until after the Russians made it the Grand Duchy of Russia and allowed Finland to start building its national identity and government. This wasn't for selfless reasons of course, it was to make Finland realize it was a nation of its own, and not a part of Sweden. To make people less likely to revolt to join back into Sweden
none of the Nordic Countries are socialist-they are all capitalists -with social programs , Socialist-is state/pubkic owned and controlled means of production
And before that they were people belonging to tribes (names unknown). I don't think that's a flaw because this tells the story of people, who live and have lived on the land currently known as Finland (or Suomi). They weren't originally swedes, the history doesn't start there.
@@bakatstravarenmattsson3418 sorry, I should have specified, I meant earlier than that.. When the first ones came thousands and thousands of years ago. The groups you mentioned came a bit later.
@@yliubers The biggest problem i have is the white land area called "protofinnic", that was a huge area. This was just wilderness 2000 years ago. This is just a theory, i never heard anyone call most of Sweden "protofinnic" no matter how far back in time we go.
As that video was a bit old, note Finland's bewen ranked the happiest nation in the world now for at least 2 years. Also calling it "a socialist utopia" is somewhat misleading since it's simply not a socialist country. Finland is most definitely a capitalist country, but has a decent social security net.
Yeah, I don't know who calls it that. Calling Finland socialist is plain wrong. I like to think that we've taken most of the good things about socialism and implemented them to our capitalism. The progress is ongoing, nothing is perfect, not even Finland. But I do feel lucky having been born here and having lived my life in peace and safety. Kind of makes me sad seeing from our perspective how fucked up the world is so largely, but you have to count your blessings.
When I was 16 (almost 50 years ago) I was an exchange student in the US Mid West. In our social studies class, we were told that Finland is "a Fabian Socialist country". I remember protesting by saying that there is a lot of private ownership, privately held capital, and some wealthy families through inheritance in Finland. The teacher asked me: "If Finland is a capitalist country, what does that make the United States?" "Unbridled, uncontrolled hyper capitalism", I answered.
Now we can see where that unscrupulous, exploitative system has taken the US in half a century! They have education chaos, health care chaos, justice/criminal system in chaos, environmental chaos... military industrial complex and Big Pharma bankrupting the country and its people, meanwhile a handful of oligarchs have become unimaginably wealthy and politically powerful. We haven't seen this tragic drama play out to the end yet.
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I think that the US is on the verge of civil war unless the GOP stops fanning the flames and starts to work with the Democrats to unite the country instead of constantly dividing them further, also they desperately need to do away with the two party system and electoral college...
The two party system fix would probably be automatic runoff/ranked voting system and the electoral college is already close to being rendered irrelevant thanks to democrats having gotten many states to pass a law stating that they will require their electees to vote as the people of that state vote (although most of the laws have been written such as they become active only once enough states have such laws in place as to render the electoral college completely powerless, but from what I remember from people talking about it around the 2016 elections was that they just needed one or two more states to pass the laws and they will become active which would basically make the electoral college just a symbolic institution with zero actual power and therefore be much easier to do away with completely) so the change in the right direction is already happening, I just hope it's not too slow,
I'm almost 100% that the GOP insanity of these days is probably about those changes, they've been the biggest opposition to both dismantling the electoral college and of instituting ranked/runoff voting, because they know they will lose most of its power (the party will splinter into multiple parties, as will the democratic party but a direct democracy would hugely favour democrats and even if the democratic party does splinter they'll probably be much more cooperative with eachother than the GOP splinters will be, GOP doesn't exactly have much experience in how to cooperate with others effectively but have a lot of experience in how to be contrarians and would probably slip into old habits easily leading to the conservative and right wing parties not being as able of cooperating with eachother as the liberal and left wing would be) if runoff voting is instituted and the electoral college is done away with (GOP hasn't won the popular vote in presidential elections in over a century from what I remember, which is insane to think about given their elections are between two options and shows how broken and rigged the US elections are)
Edit: Had to add that I'm really tired of being worried and even scared for my American friends, I'm tired of the constant stream of bad news and of the insanity of the GOP/Q/antivax mob...
I know the country is mostly made up of good people but that the political system over there is so broken at this point that it needs a major overhaul to avoid the country from either imploding or becoming an authoritarian nightmare 😔
And I'm not even going to go into what the US being ravaged by civil war would mean for the rest if the world more than stating the scary fact that Russia and China would use the US being distracted to do a lot of stuff they want to do but don't dare because they know it could lead to open war and they're not crazy enough to do that, at least not yet but if the US destabilises or is otherwise distracted/not able to intervene then all bets are off with those two authoritarian nightmare regimes...
Well, I assume the video was made by a chap in the most capitalist country of all and they label their democrats as socialists so the standards are a little bit different than in this side of what the Brits call the pond.
@@Paltse yes, the perception is a bit different over there. But words have definitions and I think that if we're to be able to discuss things we should at least try to stick to definitions of words. That said socialism in particular is a pretty wide concept and not always agreed upon, but at least it shouldn't encompass capitalism.
As a swede (born and raised) with Finnish and Estonian roots(my dad is a first generational Swede as his mom was from Finland and dad from Estonia) I've been raised on as much of that culture(and it's in my DNA and my last name is Estonian). My Grandmothers father and alot of her other male relatives fought in WW2 and the winter war, and my grandfathers cousin joined the Finnish marine forces to fight the Russians. Very proud of my heritage.
Eesti can into Nordic? :D
@@hullmees666 no
@@robinlindholm1525 :(
@@hullmees666 it be cool but Estonia doesn’t count as a nordic country
@@robinlindholm1525 depends on who you ask but most would agree with you i think. i don't care either way, it's not at all important. it's a funny meme though.
Yes, in Finland we only use euro's. Before euro's we had "markka" (one euro is equal to ~ 6 markka).
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Better call it "Mark" like in the Finnish Mark and the Deutsche Mark, it's easier to grasp.
@@sallyk5733 True :'D it would not be even close to 6 mark nowadays! It can be confusing to some people who still nowadays compare prices as how much would it be as marks. It just doesn't work like that.
@@gredulous2444 exactly
It was interesting as a Dane living in Sweden knowing very little about Finland. Love all your videos ❤️
To be fair but if you lived in Sweden, you had no reason to know about things in Finland. hehe
My beautiful country Finland
Swedes often think that Finland had to fight in war just for that winter of 1939-1940, but after about an intermittent peace-year, the Soviet war against Finland continued from 1941 to the autumn of 1944 - which meant 5 heavy war-years for the isolated Finns. Lots of bombing. Lots of losses.
Not just the first winter of war was difficult, the other winters were harsh, too, and the women had to take care of agriculture, industry, and almost all household and medical care. Children couldn't attend school normally. Housing was very scarce, because of all the destroyed buildings. Food was extremely scarce for civilians - imports were almost totally stopped.
Young Finnish children were evacuated to Sweden: for many families(mothers) it was a great relief, that their small children could get food and shelter from bombs during the war-period 1939-1944, but it was also traumatic and a tragically long period of separation. The adult population was forbidden to leave (deserting) Finland even for a single day during this time, because every one had the duty to contribute to the defence-efforts by working or fighting. The normal laws were not valid any longer. Finland got war-laws instead, with death penalty for many crimes. For some the circumstances had changed so much that the children never returned, utter tragical destinies ensued. Some in Sweden believe that the mothers abandoned their children, and don't know that the mothers were both forced and persuaded to do what the Finnish state thought was the best for the children, in the face of food scarcity and bombing.
The first winter of war, has got the name "Vinter-kriget" or "Talvi-sota" - where the Finnish determination to defend the country astonished the whole world, including the Soviets, so the term has got stuck.
The Finns used many tactics that were unusual - such as guerilla-technics (Sissi-sota) and even the simple device "Molotov-cocktails" against tanks, and such like - these tactics were used until the bitter end in 1944.
As an example of guerilla warfare my uncle and his reconnaissance groups were skiing far into Russian Carelia to spy and sabotage against the enemy.
www.amazon.co.uk/fj%C3%A4rrpatrullerna-Norrg%C3%A5rds-f%C3%A4rder-Kuismanen-1941-1944/dp/9515232309
The most cruel phase of the war was when the Finnish land army hade to retreat from the Carelian Isthmus, between Lake Ladoga and the Gulf of Finland in the summer of 1944. The battles took many months and caused the Finns defeat after defeat. It was horrible beyond words and many young soldiers couldn't stand it, and so tried to escape, but as deserteurs they were shot by their own. Many got both limbs and mentall health totally destroyed.
One can't wonder how much Finns have wanted to be neutral and no part of any wars after that.
The last phase of the last war years, was getting the German troops, that had come to fight a last battle against the Soviets, out of Lapland, and they did retreat, but they did set forests, villages, and towns on fire on their way out, which has left bitter scars.
@@DNA350ppm Yes, Finland fought bravely and tried to defend the country. We are known for being stubborn, it probably helped a lot. The lives of all these children of war are so sad, many have suffered all their lives even though they were protected from the war here in Sweden.
My grandfather was in the Winter War and the Continuation War but then his lungs collapsed and he ended up in hospital for several months. The shrapnel in the head did not make things better. He was never in Lapland and fought. Grandma was a so-called "lotta" during the wars, like many other women. Finland has suffered enough and I hope that the country will never have to fight again. Of course, I do not hope that Sweden will be forced to defend our country either.
Bryson, I suggest you to watch - The Unknown Soldier - movie. If you haven´t already ;) I liked the last one that was released in 2017. (there are 2 old ones) It will give you a sense of what it was like during the war(s), how the Finns fought for their country.
@@Pia-lm7qi True. Of course the book was better, though! Väinö Linna, the author was kind of a Finnish John Steinbeck.
@@DNA350ppm Books are always better :D
The name of Finland (Suomi) does not mean "Land of lakes" :D That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, it probably means just "land" or something like that 😂
If you think about the word “suo” in Finnish (swamp) it might not be that far off.
@@Jonsson474 Sure, but that theory is still far off. Most likely it comes from the Proto-Indo-European word źēmē, which means ground. Loanword into Proto-Finnic as šämä -> into Proto-Baltic sāma- -> into Proto-Germanic sōma- -> into Finnish suomi.
If so, the word for Sámi (Sápmi, Sábme, Sámeednam, Saepmie, Sábmie, Säämi, Sääʹmjânnam...) and Tavastia (Häme) all come from the same word.
I heard it was maybe formed from the word "suomaa" meaning swamp land
@@Daothes Yes, that is what Finnish people would figure out at first, but that theory is not true. Then people might think further that Suomi and Saame (Finnish word for Sàmi) probably come from the same origin, and that might be actually true.
Said it before and I'll say it again: You gotta love a country that has a word for sitting at home in your underwear getting drunk.
Here's to you Finland!
Yes, kalsarikännit :D
I'm Finnish, and here most of the people are not always drunk, for example I never drink. Your statement is the same as if someone claimed that all Swedes are gay, which is also not true.
Someone needs to say it: That's not a reindeer!
@@buddy1155 False. There are twice as many reindeer in Finland as moose.
@@buddy1155 That's a White-tailed Deer (Odocoileus virginianus) not a reindeer (Rangifer tarandus tarandus)
Thanks @Rybentor and @SharksAttack - my point exactly. I've seen both reindeer, deer, elk and moose etc in the wild here, so i sure know the difference. :)
Sorry to break it for you but it’s not valkohäntäpeura but saksanhirvi/isokauris (red deer), it’s bigger than white-tailed deer and it has waaay bigger horns.
Also, you have to go preeeetty up north to see a reindeer. Said animal is something at least 99,5 % of us do not see every day. What's more, there are no polar bears in Finland, except for the zoo. Bears, wolves, wolverines, lynxes - no polar bears. Or Russian tanks.
A little correction about the WW II situation and the Continuation War. Finland was NOT a 'loose ally'. Finland and Germany were _co-belligerents_. Meaning, Finland had received military training and assistance from Germany, but was not a Nazi country, nor was it formally allied, simply 'attacking together' or co-ordinating up to a point.
If you coming to Helsinki, it gotta be sometime during June/July if you want an optimal trip (unless you happen to like cooler weather, I do, but also I'm used to it here).
Think that applies to all of the Nordic countries to a certain extent, if you wanna see the big cities, best time is probably during summer, if you wanna see the Arctic circle, all the snow northern lights etc, it's winter all day long.
As the northern lights actually are there all the time, you could be lucky to spot them already, but the chances are greater when the sky is darker. It is the same with stars and "shooting stars".
We have wonderful opportunities to see the Milky Way in all its splendour if get away from city and street lights already in September in southern Finland and Norway, and in the Southern Middle of Sweden. I have seen Northern lights in southern Finland both in September and in March. They are green and slightly lime-yellow, slightly swaying as curtains in an open window in a breeze.
Compare how far North the 61st latitude is! Helsinki, Stockholm, Oslo, and Anchorage (AL), all almost on the same line as the heart of Siberia.
there are some good videos about the Winter War, the best one in my opinion is from the channel Sabaton History and the name of the video is Talvisota - The Winter War - Sabaton History 006
The "not unlike" part might have been referring to the fact that while Norway, Sweden & Denmark are constitutional monarchies, Finland is a republic.
Finland is in many ways the Nordic country that resembles the USA the most. There's a strong President that has the last word in many matters.
Finland has the harshest capitalist system of them all - if you could choose where among them, to become unemployed, or homeless, you wouldn't choose Finland. Finns are pressed to manage on their own, that takes a psychological toll on the people, too. There's education for all, so you have no excuses, for not making a decent living.
There are many great advantages with Finland. The humour, the creativity, the tolerance about being a distinct individual and special - for example the word "original" about a person means weirdo in Sweden, but an interesting person you'd like to know, in Finland.
"not unlike' means that there are similarities but not everything is exactly the same.
@@AL5520 True!
What??
@@juholaitakari1305 Finland is a republic, and Iceland, too!
Finland, the happiest country in the world for 4 years in a row (2018 - 2021). Most likely because we have universal healthcare, free education all the way & through university level, great social security, unemployment & retirement benefits, clean air, water & soil, not to mention "sisu", which means that we never give up no matter what. And finally, a lot of space as the population density is only 42/sqmi, which is about 48% of that of U.S..
Finland showed the whole world what Sisu means when, between 1939 and 1945, Finland fought 3 wars. Winter War 1939-40, and the Continuation War 1941-44 against the Soviet Union and Lapland War against Germany 1945. ( Germany occupied Norway in WW2). An interesting short video about the Finnish education system: "A Documentary on Finland's Schools"
Great Finnish band.POETS OF THE FALL. Angel - Live Alexander Theatre in Helsinki. My favorite singer. I Love this song.
If you come to Finland i will welcome you to my cabin, that is in an island that we own.
There is an old saying, Sweden always fight until last Finn. You are right, all of the Nordic countries are the same,. No border control, you can work in any of them, you get the same benefits in all of them, like healthcare. you just get taxed by the country you are in, like anyone else who lives in there. You can use Euros in here.
Goodmorning from Norden! You know we learn a lot, too, with the wide variety of your videos. Yes, some years manage to be duct-taped into my teflon-memory, too.
The history before the war 1808-1809 betweeen Russia in Sweden is blurred to me, because there were wars, wars, wars, and kings, kings, kings... But in 1809 Sweden lost most of the territory that now is Finland, and this former part of Sweden became a rather independent part under the czar of Russia, but the laws, church, administration, and all everyday habits continued to be the same as under Swedish rule. This was because Czar Alexander I was smitten by ideologies about "development" and "enlightenment", which were popular modern thoughts at the time. These were the same reasons as for you in the US, having the French inspiration for your Declaration of Independence.
This was very lucky for Finland, because Alexander I treated Finland as an example for the rest of Russia to follow. (His aristocracy was rather not so keen on being less powerful, they owned the people on their vast dominions, at the time, and feared revolutions as much as other landed lords in all Europe.)
Then there was the welcome a hundred years of peace for Finland, but there were other difficulties enough, famines for example.
In 1917, during the very instable early winter for Russia, Finland declared independence, under the rule of the Finnish senate in Helsinki. The first country to accept and acknowledge this independence was Russia under Lenin, he presumably had enough trouble in Moscow and St Petersburg already. Maybe he also really believed in national independency according to language and traditions? After his disinterest in ruling Finland, western countries were ready to acknowledge Finland, too.
Now being an independent country, the most tragic war for Finland started, because it was a war within the country about the constitution, about how the new country should be ruled/governed - as a monarchy like Sweden, as a western capitalist democracy like France, or as a proletarian socialist union like the new Soviet Union? This internal war resembled the Civil war between South and North in the USA in its huge splitting impact. The Soviets kept out.
In 1939-1944 (World War 2) there was almost constant war between Finland and the Soviet Union (except for a short period for parts of 1940 and 1941). Since the autumn 1944 there has been peace, the date for peace acknowledged in/by Finland is the 4th of September 1944.
Those who love war history continue to discuss these 20th Century conflicts still to this day. But I'd say most Finns have now been very proud of being a neutral democratic independent country since then, with some economic ties to both East and West. Staying neutral, with Sweden and Germany as the most important business partners, while having business agreements with the former enemy in the east, which for a long time were politically both important and sensitive.
Finland uses Euro, which means the currency being regulated by the Central Bank of Europe and the European Union. Finland is not a member of NATO, like Denmark, Iceland, and Norway. Sweden is not a member of NATO, either, and still manages its currency (the Swedish krona - crown) independently, but Sweden chose to join the EU with a small margin of votes, while Norway by a small margin of votes declined to join the EU. There are other treaties to regulate the relations.
You'll soon see how much Finns are ready to debate and argue about these questions, it might become very fierce about historical details.
Not unlike = same - this puzzles me, too. :-)
So I make it clearer: Denmark, Iceland and Norway are members of NATO, which is a European - North Atlantic defence collaboration) whereas Finland and Sweden are not, but citizens do discuss joining on UA-cam and social media, especially when the armies have some joint exercises.
NATO is an abbreviation for The "North Atlantic Treaty Organization" (and lots of countries with no Atlantic coast have joined).
Suomi, comes from Finnish word; Suo, and suo means swamp in English. And in here Finland, there is many swamps.
If you wanna see more good tv-shows from Finland, Madventures is one of the best traveling tv-show from Finland (wikipedia: Madventures (Finnish TV program) - Wikipedia )
Madventures have traveled around the world 3 times, within the borders of Finland 2 times in many places, and they have done much more things, about many things.
But, here is very first Madventures episode; Madventures Season One - Episode 1 - Nepal - English Subs - UA-cam , and you can find more episodes from here UA-cam, about this show, and other Finnish shows.
Finland is a Nordic country and The member of Nordic Council.
The Nordic countries are: Finland🇫🇮 Sweden🇸🇪 Norway 🇸🇯 Denmark 🇩🇰 and Iceland 🇮🇸. The flags tell all of it.
Nordic countries also include Greenland, Faroe Island (both part of the Kingdom of Denmark) plus Åland a Finnish independent series of Islands
Isn't that the reason people watches these kinds of videos to learn new things, that is why these videos are made.
I Remember Finlands 100th birthday from the mountain they got from Norway (but never really got, and that debacle =) - but as a Dane i am glad they do not have a mountain either =P at least we have that in common still =D however, I would love for them to have their mountain too - that said - I remember when we had the 4 countries, having shows for kids and still never understand the Finn when he/she spoke Finnish =P (I am a 1980's baby =)
We do have other mountains but the highest point of Finland is on the side of the Halti mountain, on the border of Norway and Finland. The top of that mountain is 2km on Norways side and there was a small campaign to get Norway to gift that land to Finland but they refused based on their constitution.
If you want listen some Halloween music, try Scaretale by Nightwish.
Don't
Nah, something by Children Of Bodom, half of their songs are somewhat horror themed... And much heavier than Nightwish (or as some of my friends used to call is Nightpiss 😂)
3:43 Yep, you nailed it!
i think you could say finland is part of fennoskandia
Also a Nordic country. Finland is a member of Nordic council.
Vikings!? I assume there were vikings there because of proximity. But one doesn't really think about vikings when they think of Finland, unless you're just lumping us all together up here. I love the historic and current bond we have with Finland. And Finland is a bit of an outsider not being Scandinavian and having a completely different language from the rest of the Nordic countries. I really wanna go there some day, to my neighbor, (I'm Swedish).
Yeah, Nordic includes Iceland, Greenland and Faroe Islands as well. But Greenland and Faroese Islands are part of Denmark anyway.
Hahaha the way he said Suomi. "Sowami" XD
Just remember that Finland just recently turned 100 years. That's so young for a country! But of course they had a "Finnish" people and culture before that.
You should react to a video about Simo Häyhä, amazing hero.
Haha, yeah Finland takes Euro, they said it in the video they use it. But Sweden doesn't even though we're in the EU.
Hi neighbour, you know you're free to visit anytime you like :)
Finns are not Vikings. Finns were trolls and shamans.
King Olav got his arse kicked so hard that the Vikings left Finns alone for a 100 years.
@@XtreeM_FaiL True, but we been mixed up when finns were part of sweden 500+ years. Result like me who's background can be tracked into mid 16th century where swedes man found himself from finland and married finnish lady.. rest is history. 😅 I would like to be a pure finn, but I can't since dna shows still fairly good % of swedish genes.
@@TheNismo777 Well still big chunk of Finns are very homogeneous and its not hard to find a Finn whose genome is almost 100% finnish.
We have Fettisdagen / Fastelavn(sdag) in SE, DK and NO, February or March (7 weeks b4 Easter day, just like Carnival? =) - At least in DK that is the "Dress up day" like Halloween and where we go to do, something a bit like, trick or treat - However - we have 2 now, as Halloween has become part of our culture too, and will so more in time (any chance of party and having fun? Yes please =) and in Halloween its Trick or treating as best we know how... It gets better (in time) =D
In 2020, Finland was among the European nations with the highest percentage of overall internet coverage
I believe Finland was the first nation in the world to declare access to internet to be a human right.
The saunas of Finns and Swedes perfectly describe their differences in character. The Finnish sauna is about 100 degrees and ice water, or a cold shower after that. Swedish "sauna": people complain if the degrees of the sauna rise above 70 degrees.
Well Im from the very north of Sweden, from Tornedalen and we know how to hava a real saunabath..
@@Gamleman I believe you. But: "You could even read Dagens Nyheter on the upper benches of the South Swedish sauna, because the heat in the sauna was only 50-60 degrees. 50 degrees is too cool to be a sauna at all.
In 1999, the International Sauna Association specified that the temperature in an official sauna should be at least 80 degrees."
@@mikorossi1959 Sure there are some that cant take the heat, just as you say, but i believe those are mostly from the southern parts of the country. But I also have to say that i wouldnt be surprised what any paskahousut reading Dagens Nyheter do.. ;)
@@mikorossi1959 Not sure where you got the 50° from. the normal sauna range in Sweden is 75°-90°. Perhaps it's from someone that have mistaken a Steam Bath (40°-45° and 100% humidity) that you can find on some spa:s and hotels with a sauna?
@@Henrik_Holst The main thing is: the nature of your people is like your sauna.
During the winterwar more than 1200 Danish volunteers went to Finland to help fight the Russians. Plus nurses and doctors.
Thank you for that, it wasn't easy time for Denmark either. If we should learn something from WWII it is that we should grow NORDEFCO larger and more comprehensive union.
@@duhni4551 i agree!
Many of the volunteers came to hate the Russians so much for what they had done to Finland that they, unfortunately, joined the newly formed "Frikorps Danmark" which was a Danish regiment (a part of the Waffen SS) to fight the Russians (and only them) on the eastern front! They thought they were doing something good so - on their first leave in Denmark - they were surprised to find out that they were hated amongst the Danes, because they helped the much hated Germans
@@benthansen3415 Well, unspoken thing of history is that without the volunteer troops on Eastern Front, most likely most of the Europe would have fallen in hands of Soviet Union. In the end it was race against the time which side, West or East reached most of the Europe. Without the delay Eastern Front provided, Danish would speak Russian today. We here in Finland chose the lesser evil and fought against Soviet Union. Also history revealed that it was a right call. So don't feel ashamed or regret the history of your country, you wouldn't have one without the troops fighting with Germany.
Some pointers, the reson Finland got its independence in the 1900,s was due to the fact that Finland did not star to get a national awareness until 1809 when Sweden was split in two due to a result of the napoleonic wars. (As stated complicated) during the 1800s Sweden sought to get Finland back as it saw it as a part of Sweden while finish self awareness started to growing before that fins were as much Swedes as the people in what’s to day modern Sweden. The mentioned klubbewar or rebellion was not a rebellion for independence.
And late in the video Sweden was shown as part of NATO this is wrong Sweden was not part of NATO tho we did lean towards the west as it were, that being said our relations whit the US during the 60s and 70s and part of the 80s where strained to say the least.
As always Thanks for a fun and entertaining video :)
Sweden and Finland are now joining Nato together. Sweden was not in Nato before.
Not unlike seems like a good phrasing. Maybe we can use that in another afsnit. Humor aside. The system they have in Finland is close to what we have in Denmark and Sweden, but there is also differences. The biggest is of course that while Denmark and Sweden are modern and so have monarchies, while Finland have gone with a Republic.
Indeed - Denmark, Sweden and Norway have managed to combine monarchy (ceremonial) with modern democracies, Finland and Iceland are democratic republics with Presidents.
So many holes in that history story that it is not the best advert for the great courses plus.
Oooh it was video from 2017, ok ok, after that video Finland has been happiest country 4 times running :)
Now 5 times.
Intresting to hear that somebody thinks so from Euro bills. As an Finn I visited 2017 Kolumbia. When I left I told girl at Bogota airport shop that could you exchange to me different bills from Kolumbian money. She did and I have similarly now saved them..
I enjoy your look into the Scandinavian countries. Even coming from Denmark there's things to learn about our neighbours and brothers here.
finland isn't scandinavian
@@fisticuffs12 sorry, but it is.
@@martinkjr3278 it is not. not the land, not the people, not the language.
Quite a lot of info that could be more of the content creators own deduction of things than actual facts. It's like a timeline of history i know well, but everything is a bit off..
The thing about Finland declaring independence in December 1917 is that it is the same year the Soviet Union was created in the October Revolution. The czar had been executed and the bolshevik leaders, Lenin &co. were conveniently distracted so they let the declaration of Finland's independence slide by without taking too much notice.
I learned it was 1922, when Russia turned to Soviet Union.
Well yes but it's rather the same year the Russian Empire fell and that also logically ended the Grand Duchy of Finland so that claiming independence was quite logical. And one could add that the about 10.000 Russian families in Finland preferred to stay in Finland and become Finnish citizen.
Some Russians claim that Russia gave Finland it's independence as Lenin was asked about it by a Finnish delegation to Russia and he was unable to say no.
But I think he thought Finland would join later.
If you can remember that Finland gained independence in 1917 - you also know the year for the Russian Revolution, and the year the US joined WW1.
The Euro IS the currency of Finland. What you just said is like me saying California accepts U.S. dollars. The U.S. dollar IS the currency of California (and the other 49 states) just as the Euro is the currency of France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium, The Netherlands, Austria, etc. etc.
Thousand lakes that is, even though Finland don't have that number of lakes 🙃.
It is a beautiful country to visit.
I was there in 2010, just to see the band I'm writing about here.
One of my absolute favorite bands are from Finland.... AMORPHIS!!!
They base much of their lyrics on the the Finnish mythology Kalevala, which btw is well worth reading.
I actually put the vocalist Tomi Joutsen who joined the band in 2004-2005, amongst the world's top 5 within this category.
He's even better live than on the studio albums.
Check out this link from a consert where they play my favorite song Black Winter Day.
Here you can also hear how Finnish language sounds when he talks to the audience.
ua-cam.com/video/twfj41kQeds/v-deo.html
The land of thousand lakes moniker is a typical finnish understatement, Finland in fact has 188000 lakes :)
@@mattisavolainen9255 Yeah I know 🙂.
I actually got to know this back in 1996 when I started listening to the awesome band AMORPHIS with their second album, "Tales from the thousand lakes".
@@Eivind.A Norway has got more than 400K registrated lakes, so they do actually beat Finland by a large amount of lakes.
@@ODIN_____aka.. Lakes dominate the landscape of Northern Europe: 65,000 lakes in Norway, 95,700 lakes in Sweden and 187,888 lakes in Finland
Finland has got 187 888 lakes.
When Sweden lost Finland was a bit more complicated than that.
Russia were supported by France and Sweden were supported by the Brits. Russia attacked Sweden and took Finland. Some time later France attacked Russia and ended up on the same side as the Brits. Sweden kicked out the current king and elected a new one. This new king did not have any children witch meant no heir. After a while he adopted a French marchal, Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, who became the crown prince of Sweden under the name Karl Johan, later Karl XIV Johan as king. One idea were that he would join the French who seemed unstoppable at this time and retake Finland. This French marchal might have known something about the state of the French armed forces that other people didn't know but he joined the British side instead, against France. That meant that Russia and Sweden ended up on the same side and that meant some problems with retaking Finland ... Anyway, Napoleon lost and since Sweden's arch enemy Denmark were allied with France, Sweden got Norway as a compensation for losing Finland. And the rest is history ...
I got a question for you! How do you now see on your fellow americans that don't know as much as you? or even tries to show an interest in the world outside
There was no mention of the Finnish Television Theater!
The what now?
It is Simo Häihä!!?
Moi ja kiitos for watching & commenting. At the time I made this video I had no idea how to begin saying words in Finnish. I've been practicing almost daily the past couple months and know a couple hundred words now and can put basic sentences together with those words. I also have my numbers down all the way to the millions.
I test myself by picking a random number like 36,751. I have to say it and write it out on paper to ensure I have the spelling correct too.
Have a great day!
You can also use the term Fennoscandia but it´s not so very common.
For some more detailed content of the Winter War and Simo Häyhä, check out Sabaton History channel for those events by the same name =)
Oh... Now im startin to love you 🥰
Video was interesting and entertaining, decent production and narrator. Anyway, right at the start gate it start with (bigger and smaller) mistakes and errors in terminology and words. That made it look like that it was made half-ass in those areas, to audience who they think know absolutely nothing about issue...that made it afterall look rathet cheap...
"Based on their language, the Finns are often associated with the Uralic peoples, but it is important to distinguish between linguistic and ethnic concepts."
"The Finnish language belongs to the Finno-Ugric branch of the Uralic language family. This linguistic group covers several languages spoken by peoples from Russia, Hungary and Northern Europe"
"Ethnically, however, Finns are not unequivocally "Uralians". Finns, like most European nations, are genetically a mixture of different populations that have settled in Finland over the centuries and millennia. This makes the ethnic background of Finns complex and multi-layered"
Finland is a capitalist country. It has got a free market economy. The forests are 75% owned by privates sectors. Also properties.
Finland has got percentually more small private businesses than US etc. Finland is a free and independent country.
If the education and healthcare are free( not compeletly) it does not mean the country is socialist. Every country should have that stuff free.
By The Australia's healthcare is even more free and better.
Finland and Sweden were a kingdom for 700 years
oh man isnt this a bad video tbh :D
You can come and visit us in the Nordics... could we visit you in Kentucky?
Finnish people like to make fun of swedes but I think we were lucky to be under Swedish rule for so long. Otherwise Finland would be more like eastern European countries who were under Russian influence or rule. I was born and raised in Finland but I did live in Sweden for a long time as well. Was very interesting to experience the cultural differences as I am both Finnish and Swedish.
Suomi.... Suo=Swamp. Finland is 11% lakes and 20% swamps. But Suomi does not mean "land of the lakes" and it should be "land of the thousand lakes" (~188k). Should I list all the corrupted data here? :P
Wth is this music I hear? Hakkapeliitta just... Died. That's all?! :D They were the most successful and feared mercenaries in the world.
Finland has a welfare state like Scandinavia. Finland has a slightly different one because the geography is different and their industry is different, and most importantly it was formed at a time when the needs were very different. There is a much larger emphasis on the education system for example.
The welfare state of Denmark and Sweden started before WW2 just after the great depression. Finland only got on that path in the 1950's and Norway could replicate Sweden and Denmark after they got all that oil money in the 1960's and 1970's.
Great show, Btw: as a dane i like dark movies/series (Nordic Noir) ,, latest i saw was the finish - Bordertown, Check it out :)
technically not nordic noir but kinda close .. i would recommend shadow lines its relatively newish spy-drama taking place during the cold war in Helsinki
@@ItsAweeb Thanks, noted.
You use 'not unlike' when you mean like (as in similar not exactly alike), but feel it might give the wrong idea, since there are major differences. So, B isn't unlike A, but it isn't exactly A either.
Also note the video as aged a bit, we have ranked number one happiest country for a few years now, just slightly ahead of Denmark
Yeah, that's amazing, taking into account that Finns are a very critically minded people! Exact and truthful. It is difficult for Finns to agree just to be polite and contribute to the harmony in a group.
But few nationalities have such appreciation for humour and fun as the Finns. I love that trait. If Finns would have invented the Olympics, they would be much more fun to watch!
@@DNA350ppm Totally agree! Finns are funny ppl and they appreciate humor, although it can be pretty raw sometimes hahaha. Finns are very honest ppl and Very direct. That is one of traits I appreciate the most, no bullshit with Finns :D
@@DNA350ppm I don't think that first part is completely true. It is fine to keep quiet on unimportant things, just to keep to ball rolling, even if you do not agree to it. It doesn't mean you have to subscribe to the idea yourself.
"If you don't have anything important and relevant to contribute, then stfu" is a very common saying in Finland (in Finnish ofc)
However, offering your opinions, especially to correct and improve the proposed opinion is perfectly fine in any situation no matter what your mutual standing is. As long as you are making a point and know what you are talking about.
However, Finns who alter their opinion just to please the group, or the "dominant" person's opinion, are called "mielistelijä" (basically like a brown-noser, but not exactly the same) are viled and pitied.
Nobody likes those, but it is often considered rude to point it out to them, since it is most likely due to desperation to fit in, personal trauma or some such disadvantage the other might have.
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@@Songfugel Yes, you have to balance with Finns, between being quibbling and direct/truth-loving. And you sure can always keep your mouth shut, OK, almost always, but if you disagree let your eyebrows show it, even if you keep quiet. :-D
The original video you reacted to wasn't a very good one, lots of mistakes and important omissions. Links aren't allowed so can't inform of better ones, similar to this but much more factual. Oh well, it is what it is, the most viewed ones always win, no matter how bad they are.
Aren't links allowed? I wanted to suggest 10 Pretty Decent Inventions From Finland by Wildwood Vagabond on UA-cam. (She means innovations!) Cool!
What happens if I add the link here ua-cam.com/video/upKS3uwS25Q/v-deo.html
@@DNA350ppm That seems to show just fine, maybe because it's a youtube link. I have tried a couple of times to link to streamable ("competitor") to youtube and they are blocked. Although the channel owner can control which links to allow, or block everything.
@@pundewhee Thank you for the kind response! Sometimes my comments have been rejected and I have not understood why - the links could have been the reason, because I have never tried to comment something improper, that is, if spelling and grammar errors don't have messed it up for me. English is difficult! Sigh!
@@DNA350ppm The comment blocks/hides are automatic, channel owner can only approve them later manually. Some curse words are automatically blocked so your comment won't show at all, only to yourself, and some (or all, depending on channel settings) links too.
Now that I think about it, links may also be blocked only on top level comments on a video, but not on replies like now. I'll actually test it right now, sorry for another reply to you soon!
"I'll actually test it right now, sorry for another reply to you soon!" nope, still doesn't work. Tried to comment with a streamable link, no curse words, nothing. Doesn't show. Thanks for your patience while I was testing this :)
Says reindeer and shows a picture of red deer (btw I know the first person who shot red deer in Finland)
4:05 SUUR-SUOMI!!! HAIL LALLI! PAPIT JA IMAAMIT HIRTEEN!
"Not unlike" roughly means "similar".
Using double negatives is considered inferior use of language... at least in essay writing...
Using double negatives is considered inferior use of language... at least in essay writing...
@@ssc00p What we were taught in my school was that any English accent is valid as long as we where consistent.
Mixing Afro-American Vernacular English with Canadian, Scottish or Australian English could in other words lead to a serious reduction in your grades.
But yes, AAVE was and is every bit as valid as any other form of English, be it American or otherwise.
Double negatives included.
However if you go for it you better be consistent and follow the rules of the accent.
I never get it why when talking history of this region, people talk about Finland as it was a nation or a country when the crusades started. There was no Finland back then. It was as mentioned early, an are populated by different different tribes. Some of them had cultural similarities but there was no central governing or official unity. It wasn’t until several hundred years after the crusades that the word Finland or Suomi was being used regularly. The Finnish tribe arrived from the Urals (in today’s Russia between the Volga, Oka and Kama rivers) quite late to the area, during the migration period around 400 AD. There were definitely other tribes living there before the Finns arrived, like Scandinavians and the Sami and people had been living in the area for thousands of years before that.
After the crusades, when Sweden took control over the area, it was made a fully integrated part of Sweden called Österland (Eastland). Österland was considered the eastern half of Sweden, with the same rights and obligations as the rest of the kingdom. When people in the area were fighting the Swedish wars, they were fighting for their country, not “for the swedes”. There had never been another country in the area. It wasn’t really until the eastern half of Sweden was lost to Russia in the war of 1809 that people started to consider creating a new country and see themselves separate to Sweden.
The history of this country is very complex and often misunderstood. Sometimes deliberately in order to fuel nationalism. A very young nation with a relatively recent civil war behind it needs to build a national identity and unite it’s people over something.
The video is interesting but unfortunately no very accurate on many points. Still enjoyable though.
I would almost give this video credit for mentioning that there were only loose tribes when the crusades came. Not even that is usually mentioned. That said, a lot more could of course be explained.
Actually you have your information quite wrong. Finland has been settled over 10 000 years by not Indo- Europeans but by people living around Baltic area before Finnish area was livable. Uralic influence came around 5000 years ago but it shows only in paternal line, maternal line is same line that came to France from Middle- East roughly 50 000 years ago, moved to East from there and to Baltic area from there.
You see, Finnish people are unique in Europe as we are not Indo- Europeans like Scandinavians and most of the Europeans are, for the isolation we have remained to be pretty much the same Europeans that have been inhabiting Europe before Indo- Europeans began to spread all over Europe.
This makes Finnish people DNA studies favorite target, we are easy to study since our heritage is almost intact and thus not so complicated to study.
Also history of Finland as a country we now know it goes back to Swedish rule. I can't remember the name of the Swedish officer but he did something to piss of the court and was "banished" to Finland.
In Finland he began to build independent Finland because of his own greed, he managed to build even first official Finnish army protecting only Finnish area before he died, but it was him who formed the ethnic sense to national sense which began to grow from that point, so Finnish independence is actually his heritage.
When Finland became part of Russia, Finland already had sense of nationality, ready plans for currency (which was Mark), own laws, policies, foreign policies, governmental structure and so on.
Russia didn't want to make Finns to be angry neighbors so they went along with it and made Finland autonomous part of their Empire, they didn't build Finland to be autonomous part of their Empire though the autonomy allowed Finland to grow independence safely and in peace with the support of the Empire (until the Empire turned against Finland).
Also i should mention that Finnish soldiers didn't fight for Sweden nor for Russia either, they fought for them selves as they were rewarded their own farm if they managed to survive the service.
This is well recorded but also becomes quite clear when you listen Finnish marching songs of the time.
So in short:
1. Finnish people comes from Baltic area and Urals, we are not Indo- Europeans even a bit.
2. Finnish national sense began to grow under Swedish rule
3. Finnish soldiers were newer loyal to Sweden nor Russia, they were loyal to their families
Finnish tribes didn't arrive all the way from the Urals in the 400s, they came from Estonia and other areas south of the Gulf of Finland. Ancestors of Finns, Estonians and other Baltic Finnic people had been south of the Gulf in the eastern Baltic for millennia by the time of the Finnish migrations began. They just never bothered to go north into Finland and the migration of the 400s was likely tied to the widespread migrations of the Migration Period. Although this is just my own theory, I am not sure if actual theories on the two being linked exist.
Ha told you it was a mess our Nordic history is so messy and violent in so many ways. You coming from a "young" country I can imagine it be a lot but most if not all of European history is long bloody and a confusing mess of wars, backstabbing and intrigue. Not unlike is like saying its a lot alike but still different in some key subjects
There’s numerous videos about Simo Häyhä and the history of Molotov cocktail on You Tube, if you’re interested in WWII history but then there’s this:
ua-cam.com/video/MRHm26fKKb8/v-deo.html
That just makes me laugh out loud every time.
You could have pronounced him as his immortal majesty for the first time and would have gotten lot better grip on what you on about
I say it was a short lecture about Finnland, not that many faults!
Wathever coments, Finnland was a part of Sweden befor 1809, ruled by Swedish nobilaty.
Then it come to be a Grand duchy ounder Russia, its this, Finnland proper was shaped by Swedisch kings.
In anyway, some stupid swedich king thougt that its good idea to make war aginst the new Russian kingdome, and lost both Finland and Åland.
In the Russian revolution, Finnland break free and got there own republic.
Then WW2, it was a strugle, siding whith germany, they soon recon that Germany wouldnt win the war, and get a peace with Russia, and still keept there indipendensy and some punshment for siding whit germany, lost some land and have to pay some to SSR, and was obligated to sign a friendship agreement on Sovjet terms! It was both bad and good, a lot to pay, but they altso could do bussines to SSSR, and the could even buy Sovjet military equipment, the only western country that could buy Sovjet top of the art Sovjet military hardware!
Anyway after WW2 there was a major effort to form a Nordic council, free trade, freedome of movment, every Fenno scandinavian countrys signed up to that, even befor EU.. and it worked, so now even Estonia tryes to be a member of the Nordic council, becuse they are cousines to the finns, kind of similar language, culture and origin.
And the biggest minority in Finnland is Swedes, there are even som south west parts there they only speak swedish.
The biggest minority are the Fenno-Swedes meaning Swedish speaking Finns. They make up around 5% of the total population and most live in a few cities along the coast line. There are no only Swedish speaking cities in Finland. (Obviously not talking about Åland here)
If you compare that to the biggest minority in Sweden who are Finnish people meaning Finnish speaking Finns, you can see that there is a big difference there. :)
Many Swedes do also have Finno-Ugric ancestry especially in northern Sweden. Colonisation really is a horrible thing and the main reason why most Finno-Ugric people in Russia, Norway and Sweden have been ethnically whiped out.
@@anni8456 Thanks for corecting me.
And I like to change my words, (there are areas there many people think of them as Fenno--Swedes and mostly speak swedich)?
The two moste swedich speaking dens areas in the world supose to be, Åland and Närpes, both in Finnland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A4rpes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85land_Islands
In anyway those finns that got in the swedich border started to learn swedish but at home they still spoken ther old north finish dialect, now they cal it Meäkienli.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me%C3%A4nkieli
So for what im reading, on one side of Torne river they speak standard finish and on the swedish side they speak meänkeli?
@@stiglarsson8405 Thank you for the reply. :) you’re correct on Åland and the municipality of Närpes as well. On most maps the whole Ostrobothnia region is marked as Fenno-Swede which is incorrect.
Meänkieli is really similar to Finnish just like Kven in Norway and Ingrian around the St Petersburg area in Russia. A native speaker can understand it almost completely. Most of the words are what I’d describe as ”old” so a bit more similar to how old people speak in Northern Finland.
Finnish in Northern Finland and Meänkieli were pretty much the same until Russia occupied Finland in 1809 and the areas became devided by an actual border.
@@anni8456 Thanks again, becuse I was refering to those maps, lets say they are historicaly corect, but not any more?
Its this, north sweden was populated by finns and sami people, moste of them have been assimilated to be swedich speaking, even in Tornedalen and by sami.
In any way, both Sami and Meänkieli is now recognited as Official minority langues, and there are more and Finnish is the biggest, and moste spoken.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_minority_languages_of_Sweden
Soo, both Meänkeli and Sami got a revival.
Its still a lot more finnisch ancetryes in Sweden, and then I talk about "Forest finns", they have all been assimilated, the only distinction one can do is on there surenames and the region that are cald "Finnskogarna".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Finns
And I have ancestors from Pedersöre, but this was several generations ago.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peders%C3%B6re
In another way, Sweden and Finnland have almoste been good friends, (mayby not when sweden concured Finnland) but after that?
Suomi does not mean "Land of Lakes". It's just a nickname and even then it's wrong. It's Land of 10 000 Lakes, which is funny because 38 000 would be way more accurate.
The thing is, NOBODY knows the full etymology of "Suomi". There are multiple theories, but none have an upper hand over the others really.
The most accepted meaning is "Land of Swamps", coming from the words "suo" in Suomi, or Fenn in "Finland".
Also, nobody but the nerdiest of Geology nerds care about the difference between Scandinavia and Nordic. Most Finns even wouldn't know the difference.
"Also, nobody but the nerdiest of Geology nerds care about the difference between Scandinavia and Nordic. Most Finns even wouldn't know the difference." I don't agree with that...
You're a little off.
1) Finland has around 188 000 lakes, not 38 000.
2) The most accepted origin of "Suomi" is that it's derived from the word "zeme", meaning 'land' or 'region' in proto-Balto-Slavic. But you're right that *nobody* knows for sure. However, it is known that the word "suomi" was used in more southern Finland way before it was used in more swampy Central/North Eastern Finland, suggesting the association with swamps is a stretch.
3) Even the people on Vauva(dot)fi know that Finland is Nordic and not Scandinavian, and that's a web-forum not particularly celebrated for it's users' diligence for scientific accuracy. While obviously not *every* Finn knows this - like babies, for example - claiming it's something only the nerdiest of geology nerds know is incorrect.
@@TheRawrnstuff I so cracked with Vauva(dot)fi and your definition/decription of it.
About Socialism
Since everybody keeps saying
that the Scandinavian countries
are socialist countries
- which they are not -
isn't it funny that they are all
among the top five happiest countries?
It is almost as if this 'secret'
is as dangerous to the world at large,
as democracy was to neighbouring countries
back in the days of the French
and the American revolutions
against monarchy.
Because power is as simple as that.
Halloween is in TWO months.... Seems just as bad as the Christmas season.... :-/
I actually do not like it either.. I always felt like September is when the Autumn decorations come out. October is Halloween. November is Autumn/ Thanksgiving. December 1st is when the Christmas tree and lights are displayed.
The stores here will take down all of the Halloween beginning in October and everything Christmas will be available before Halloween itself.
I don't like it like that at all
please react GEOGRAPHY NOW INDONESIA.
Props to this video for differentiating Swedish Finland from Finland, since contrary to many revisionists in Finland and Sweden, Finland was NOT Sweden, ever. Finland belonged to Sweden, but as a colony. Sweden never wanted Finland to be considered official main part of Sweden with equivalent rights and such, but they were VERY clear Finland was their colony.
The main difference why this distinction is important, is that Finland had no say in the colonialism and nation building of Sweden, except being one of its victims and the exploitation of Finland was what funded most of the Swedish war efforts. Even in times of repeated famines that devastated Finland, Sweden was still taxing 50% of everything produced in Finland to be directly transported to Sweden. Finnish people also didn't have almost any rights or permission to even do trade. The ruling class in Finland at those times were all Swedish speaking, and Finnish was not allowed in church or any official interactions.
This lasted until the very last years, when Sweden was about to lose Finland to Russia, they started to make concessions and they had the first King to actually visit Finland for the first time and was sympathetic to the Finnish people, which was a fact that caused him to be considered insane by the Swedish court.
Finland was a crucial part of the Empire of Sweden, but it was never the same as Sweden itself. Finnish culture as is today, also didn't evolve until after the Russians made it the Grand Duchy of Russia and allowed Finland to start building its national identity and government. This wasn't for selfless reasons of course, it was to make Finland realize it was a nation of its own, and not a part of Sweden. To make people less likely to revolt to join back into Sweden
You should react to the movie Eurovision.
Isn't that movie about Iceland's contribution, and not Finland?
I have to Google this...🙂
@@Eivind.A Yes
none of the Nordic Countries are socialist-they are all capitalists -with social programs , Socialist-is state/pubkic owned and controlled means of production
Happy reindeer are tasty reindeer.
Do not believe a lot of the beginning of that video - it is close to shit.
why are you watching that misleading video?
Finland never joined axis so calling germany as ally is simply wrong
"co-belligerents" or "brothers in arms" ...whatever 😉
If you want to experience finland, dont go to helsinki. Tampere is much better city for a traveller.
Everything woke turns to shit, even Finland.
Finland? Oh, they mean Eastern Sweden! lol
Österland! 😝
This video lies a lot
There where no finns before 1808, they where Swedes, this video has big flaws.
And before that they were people belonging to tribes (names unknown). I don't think that's a flaw because this tells the story of people, who live and have lived on the land currently known as Finland (or Suomi). They weren't originally swedes, the history doesn't start there.
@@yliubers The tribes names are certainly known, before swedish era they were Finns, Tawasts, And Karelare
@@bakatstravarenmattsson3418 sorry, I should have specified, I meant earlier than that.. When the first ones came thousands and thousands of years ago. The groups you mentioned came a bit later.
@@yliubers The biggest problem i have is the white land area called "protofinnic", that was a huge area. This was just wilderness 2000 years ago. This is just a theory, i never heard anyone call most of Sweden "protofinnic" no matter how far back in time we go.
It's nice to see an american person taking interest of small countries up in northern europe.