North Charleston police officer pulls over cyclist for riding in center of lane
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- Опубліковано 12 кві 2018
- *Skip to 9:15 and then 10:38 in the video for the interesting parts*
The evening of Thursday, March 15, 2018, I was commuting home from work, riding my bicycle eastbound on West Montague Ave near Silmar Electronics. I was riding in the right lane. West Montague is a 5-lane road in this area: two travel lanes in each direction, plus a center turn lane/median. It was sunny, and visibility was clear.
I was riding along the centerline of the right lane in a straight and steady line. My bike had a blinking red LED taillight, rear red reflector, and a bright white LED headlight. I was wearing a high-visibility reflective vest, helmet, and safety glasses, along with a rearview mirror attached to my glasses.
At ~7:20pm (9:15 in this video), a North Charleston police officer approached from behind in the left lane and spoke over his loudspeaker. I could not make out the first part of what he said, but the second part was "Please move to the right." I watched the police officer continue driving closely behind a minivan in the left lane, and was unsure whether the comment was directed at the minivan or at me (I assumed the minivan). Thus, I continued riding in the center of the lane as before.
The officer was driving a marked City of North Charleston police car (car number 269) with SC license plate MG52176.
About a half mile down the road, near the parking lot for 3129 W Montague Ave, the officer stopped his car, walked out into the road, and waved me to the side to talk with me. His last name was O'Connell (presumably Justin O'Connell, per the City's online employee directory **EDIT: John O'Connell**). I complied with the officer's orders and pulled off to the side.
We had the following conversation (starting at 10:38 in this video)
-Officer: "Over here please. Thank you. How are you?"
-Me: "I'm doing well."
-Officer: "I'm not trying to interrupt your ride. I'm asking you to move to the far right as required by law for a reason, okay. I don't want a car to run you over. That's all. People out here, got the glare in their headlights, got the glare in their windshield, I don't want you to get hit, we got a lot of people that get hit by cars, okay.
-Me: "Your name is O'Connell?"
-Officer: "Yes. Okay. Also, the laws apply to you at red lights as well, sir. You know that, right?"
-Me: "Yes sir, I follow all the laws."
-Officer: "Okay."
-Me: "The laws say to stay as far right-"
-Officer: "Did you just go... yeah, far right, as far right as you can."
-Me: "-as practicable."
-Officer: "Yes."
-Me: "It's not safe to be on the far right because it invites unsafe passing."
-Officer: "I got you man, I'm just trying to look out for you, okay? I know how people drive around here. I'm not trying to interrupt your bike ride, I'm sorry to stop you. But it also looked like you went through the red light back there. You didn't?"
-Me: "No I did not, I have it on camera."
-Officer: "Okay, that's fine - if you didn't, you didn't. I was just saying it looked like it was close. So I just wanted to stop you and ask you again, just to please keep as far right as you can, okay? I'm sure you're not trying to do anything-"
-Me: "As far right as practicable is the center of the lane, sir."
-Officer: "I got you, brother. I got you. But you - I don't want you to get hit, okay? That's my big worry. Have a good ride."
-Me: "Thank you, you too."
Notes:
1.) Riding in the center of the lane complies with state law (which says a bicyclist must stay "as far right as practicable," acknowledging that safety concerns make hugging the curb impracticable in some situations), and allows people in other vehicles to see me from a distance and realize they need to change lanes to pass. From bike commuting through this area for five years, I know that the lanes are too narrow for a car to pass a bicycle safely in the same lane.
2.) It may be difficult to see in the UA-cam video due to UA-cam's postprocessing that reduces video quality, but the red light the officer was referring to didn't change from yellow to red until I had crossed the white stop bar and was legally in the intersection. I did not run the red light, although I can see how it would have looked questionable to him from a distance.
3.) The video stops at 12:00 because that is when my GoPro automatically ended this segment and started a new video file. The rest of my ride home was uneventful.
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It is a common misconception that it is safer for a cyclist to ride to the right of the lane.
History has proven that WRONG, cyclists riding to the right more often get wedged out or bumped out of their lane.
Like ANY vehicle, even SLOW vehicles, taking possession of the lane is safest
It would be handy for police to learn the LAW and this.
(I hope that's not overloading the police...)
Wrong again greg
Instead of making everyone either fast forward or watch to the end video. Why don't you just edit it down to the relevant part?
In the description OP included hyperlinks that automatically fast-forward to the relevant segments.
@Ojibwa62 x You need to learn to use your fingers to scroll through a fucking video lazy ass
@@EagleLogic Lol ur such a savage bro 😂
Good question. The honest answer is twofold: I wanted to include the entire clip for context (to show that I was generally following all traffic laws), and at the time my GoPro software was not cooperating so I was not able to trim the video before uploading. I tried to mitigate the inconvenience by including timestamps in the description to let folks skip to the interesting parts.
My primary goal for this channel is documentation, not entertainment.
@@BikingInCharleston these days even for documentation. The average of is going to lose interest after a short period.
It doesn't matter how far right he pulls over, there's is not room for a bike and a car in the same lane. If a car wants to pass a bike, it has to enter a different lane to successfully and safely pass a bike. There was no point is stopping the bike, unless he wants to pull over every motorist on the road and tell them to be careful too.
Dude the roads in the USA and Canada are wide as fuck, if you can't safely pass a cyclist using your own lane you shouldn't be driving a car. Some roads are not as wide but in general where this guy was riding his bike I could squeeze a fucking transport truck by him. Unfortunately there are too many people like you that can't drive.
@@miroslav_jovic The lanes in the USA really do seem pretty wide. In Germany where I live they look to be narrower. What the original comment says definitely applies to narrower roads/lanes, it surely does where I live.
Tell me this community doesn't have to many police resources if they can take time to harass this guy for this. How did this improve community safety.
that's why we pay outrages taxes to pay for this nonsense.
That’s insane.
In S.C. entrapment is totally legal, being a commonwealth they have a different law set. "You're in the South now." I heard that a lot when I moved to Charleston. I'm surprised that he didn't get ID checked and ran for warrants just because he had contact with an officer. Chucktown cops are straight up badass.
My apologies if this has been brought up and discussed already but...RE: the cop's suggestion that sun glare could cause drivers to not see him, wasn't the sun BEHIND the cyclist?
I have been on both sides of this one. Cops (and other people) are constantly screaming at you and telling you what they perceive as to where you should and can't ride. I am sure that you, as I did, know the laws and try to stay safe.
Cops are always "helpful" giving directives but when your bike gets stolen from a public place by a bolt-cutter wielding criminal, they treat it like it was a kid's $150 Huffy and not the $3200 road machine it is.
Well 3200 down the drain if someone love taps your bike with a car because you couldn’t use a sidewalk
Stay out of the middle of the road, move over and potentially stop if a car is behind you. You as a cyclist are little more than a nuisance on the road, unless there is a dedicated bike lane.
@@cheesedoesgaming6088 More than that if you love tap a bike in Florida, chances are your assault with deadly weapon (vehicle) will receive a more "tactical" response than you expected. Don't play stupid games, don't win stupid prizes. Beyond that dumbZ, riding a bike on the sidewalk is against the law.
@@cheesedoesgaming6088 sidewalks arent designed for bikes. they are actually more dangerous because people cant see you as well when pulling in or out of entrances and they also only have a 20 mph speed limit. road bikes especially when ridden by someone in shape can actually exceed that limit. if you dont know how to drive and follow the rules of the road that are also granted to bikes as well then you shouldnt be in a car in the first place.
Bicycles are supposed to follow the same traffic patterns as cars
He was going to give you a ticket for running the light, but then he saw the camera...........LOL
That wasz my thought when I saw I'm looking at the camera
Except he ran the light! Yellow means you need to make every attempt to stop if given enough time. No way he was going "too fast" to make a safe stop. Another cyclist who thinks the rules don't apply to them.
@@Klownmg Yeah, I'm sure that's how you and your friends & family drives their cars.
@@Klownmg The light was green just before the intersection. he would have stopped in the intersection if he had braked.
I HATE cyclists that ride in the center of the lane.
Why does he keep saying "I get it" when he clearly does not "get it"?
No,you are more likely to bet run over or caught in a drainage grate or hit a curb etc . when you ride to the extreme right , cars will generally pass too close whereas if you are legally in the middle of the lane the cars are forced to pass in a left lane if available or wait to pass in the oncoming lane which also gives you more room between you and the car .
Yeah right,. Your 200 pounds forces 3,000 pounds.
Keep making excuses and dreaming.
yeah, he passed the light on red, but i would do the same if there wasn't cars waiting there, it is completely useless waiting for nothing, the road was empty, there was no need to pull this guy and molest him for such a small detail.
He didn't get pulled over because he ran the red light, well, the cyclist did lie to the officer. But he got pulled over because he was riding in the middle of the road.
You absolutely ran the red light! And gave the officer attitude!
And directly lied to him.
Yeah that was a good cop
10:20 looks green to me. Perhaps with the sunlight, it isn't easy to see.
It was amber as he entered the junction. It was not practical to stop in time. This is the same as the law for cars when it comes to amber lights.
Nice enough cop, but no requirement to be as far right as possible. His lane positioning on a multilane road was perfect. He's MUCH less likely to get hit in the middle of a lane rather than riding close to a curb and in the debris area from the rest of traffic. He was moving quite briskly... apparently in a lot better shape than I am at the moment and not doing anything wrong. The only one that technically was doing anything wrong was the cop.. "Pedestrian in the roadway". That is an infraction right there. Could possibly also toss in the cop impeding as he was physically stopping the progress of the cyclist who wasn't in the way of anyone. There is a psychological effect called "unintentional blindness" where drivers don't "see" cyclists BECAUSE they are way to the right, wearing hi vis gear, running tail lamps, riding in a straight line... the brain of a driver is scanning for 'threats', brain scans the cyclist and determines "not a threat" and STOPS SEEING them. Cyclist in the middle of the lane or significantly out away from the curb, "What the hell is that crazy cyclist doing in the middle of the lane!?!?!", conciously "SEES" the cyclist, safely routes around them and goes on their merry way, probably telling all their friends at work about the nutcase on the bicycle they saw on their commute... not even realizing that their might have been 10 other cyclists or more that they never even "saw" because of that phenomena. The term for cycling law is "as far to the right as is practicable." NOT POSSIBLE... and it isn't up to a cop to determine, it's up to the cyclist.
Cop saw his camera.
I was told by a COP in N. Chuck to "get off the sidewalk, use the center turn lane." I learned to avoid police there.
I thought I knew where you were around the 3 minute mark, but when you came under 525 and I saw the orange roof on that Harley dealer I knew exactly where you were. Big surprise here is he didn't try to force you to show ID, I was absolutely expecting it. Enjoy the ride!
Cop must be bored or was desperate to give out a ticket for a red light infraction that didn’t happen! I wish the roads in the U.K. were as nice as your roads…..
Police officer: *I'm asking you to move to the far right as required by law for a reason, okay.*
Facts: While most states do say that bicyclists must drive as close as “practicable” or as “safe” to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, they also provide many exceptions to this rule, including:
•When overtaking and passing another vehicle
•When traveling at or near the same speed as other traffic
•When preparing for a left turn
•Where a lane is too narrow to share safely with another vehicle
•To avoid any condition that makes it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge
Many surface hazards - such as potholes, puddles, debris, and broken glass - are more common near the edge of the roadway. Keeping to the right can often hide a bicyclist from a turning motorist at the critical time and place.
Driving in the middle of the lane actually protects cyclists against the most common motorist-caused crashes: sideswipes, right hooks, left crosses, and drive-outs. A bicycle driver’s top safety priority is to ensure he or she can be seen by motorists with whom they might potentially be in conflict, and bicycling in the middle of a lane is one of the most effective ways to do that. Most overtaking crashes involve a motorist who attempts to squeeze past (illegally) in a lane that is too narrow to share.
cyclingsavvy.org/hows-my-driving/
Which of those applied in this case? Why was the psycholist riding in the middle of the lane. Cars aren't going away, psycholists.
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: *Which of those applied in this case?* •Where a lane is too narrow to share safely with another vehicle
Lanes here only allow for a car, not a car and a bicycle side by side safely within the same lane. So when a driver want to pass the cyclist, that driver have to change lanes and pass in the other lane when overtaking.
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: *Cars aren't going away* Neither are bicycles. You pass when safe, and keep the 3 foot distance when doing so.
The law is the law. If it's on your side, it's on your side.
Tina Cole it is too narrow. A car and bicycle cannot safely travel side by side within the lane
states have cyclists parts on the road now ..so whatever the law use to be it doesn't apply anymore because the law change and is updated.
Which state is this in?
I don't understand why he got onto the side walk and then got off again.
The others on the sidewalk were riding slowly
I don’t follow his logic. If cars can’t see you it would be deadly to drive to the right given the width of the lane. Driving in the middle of the lane improves your visibility.
Reader's digest version, nothing happens
Why did he come in the middle of the street??
If you hear Jesse and kept pulled over by the police Skip to 9 minutes 21 seconds
I am always amazed at the way motorists view bicyclists. If we look at the roadway where the officer stopped the rider, it was a low traffic density roadway at the hour the cyclist was riding. It doesn't appear, based on the vehicles that passed the cyclist, that any vehicle would have had to wait behind the cyclist for more than a few seconds. They may have had to lift off the gas and move their steering wheel a degree or two to the left. Yet motorists will lose their mind over this. NC law requires bicyclists to ride as far right as practicable. The word practicable was used in the law instead of possible for a reason. It allows the cyclist to use their judgment, based on the whole of the circumstances, to decide where in the lane to ride. The officer an motorists in NC should read this part of the motorist guide. Especially the last 10 words.
North Carolina Driver Handbook (NCDOT/DMV ):
Bicycle riding is an important means of transportation, particularly
for traveling to and from work and school. Because bicycles are
vehicles, bicyclists must obey the same traffic laws as other drivers.
Bicyclists usually ride on the right side of the lane, but are entitled
to the use of a full lane.
Dude I see cyclists riding in middle of the road NEXT to a cycle path FREQUENTLY.
It's so infuriating and inconsiderate.
Saying "you can go around me if you wanted to" on areas that have a double solid line that's illegal to cross without going to the side of the road is ridiculously selfish, inconsiderate and idiotic.
I have no issues with cyclists on the side of the road at all. But the dead set middle? No. Just no.
No one wants to run anyone over.
You bicyclist suck. Always impeding traffic and being way too entitled. Your bicycles don’t pay taxes to the roadways. Get the hell out of the road or get ran over !
@@tywinters9462 No, our bicycles do not pay taxes, but as riders we do. Local roads are built and maintained using various ad valorem taxes. Gas taxes haven't covered the cost of state and federal roads for a long time. General fund taxes are used as well, and we pay those. Let me guess, in addition to being marginally literate, you are an out of shape, middle aged, angry, white male?
@@paulbarnard3547 your bike doesn’t have to pay property tax, insurance or have proper tags to use roadways. Our vehicles do.
@@paulbarnard3547 actually our general Taxes don’t cover a majority of road work. Politicians line their pockets with that. A federal tax called the highway heavy use tax, AKA form 2290 pays for most of road construction and road work. So what do you think of that tree hugging Woodstock hippie?
More than half the video of what?
I see it's an old video; you could still lodge a complaint.
That was a waste of 12 minutes...
Sorry for the uneventful beginning portion. I would have deleted it, but my GoPro was acting up so I had to just upload the entire file intact. I do think it was helpful for context to show that I was indeed following all traffic laws (even before I realized it was a video that would later be uploaded to UA-cam).
I've added a note to the description telling folks where the interesting parts begin. To be fair, it was already mentioned farther down in the description, for anyone who actually read it.
ahhhh ....well lets see andrew....what do your videos look like...
lets check out your content. strange.....seems you have none.
ohhhhhh you are one of those people who post nothing, yet feel the need to tell other people what THEY are doing is a waste of YOUR time......
hero of the year over here people.
I'm sure your wise enough to Pom by The boring parts like I did. I as l saw the cop I let it pay out.
maskedathiest angry much
@@BikingInCharleston, uh, isn't the video stored on a SD memory card? If so you'd still should be able to edit it.
Not enough traffic, and going at a fast pace are two reasons that support your choice to ride where you did. The risk is all upon the cyclist. Hopefully he does this to drivers that ride within 3ft of any cyclist.
Question do you need to ride on these roads they look busy
Nice cop, the lane thing is just a safer suggestion, but yeah did run the red light I’m sure he saw it in his video afterwards but chip let that slide.
Actually watching it again , from where the light is standing and the point your camera shows it’s red you’re already passed the intersection, so you’re in the right on that one, seems like that light pole should’ve been place before the intersection
The lane thing ISN'T a safer suggestion as the cyclist pointed out a couple of times to the cop. It encourages unsafe passing within the lane which is impossible in lanes that narrow but some drivers think they can pull it off. Some actually do but it's still unsafe.
He didnt see you run the red light but it looked like it🤔
I think all too often people want to obey the laws that best suit them
He's not breaking the law, but the cop was by stopping him. It was an illegal stop. Cyclists are not required to ride on the right edge of the road where the lane is less than 14 ft. We can use the whole lane. You'll have to accept this or go around angry all the time.
A pimple on the @$$ of authority. Unbelievable.
Continues riding in the middle of the lane
@Biking in Charleston
12 minutes of video for 1 minute of interaction. If you think that we were enjoying your ride through town, we weren't.
To be fair, I clearly stated in the description where the "interesting" parts started. The purpose of the video wasn't entertainment, it was to document what happened during my ride that day. Sorry if it wasn't exciting enough for you.
As boring and uneventful as the first 9 minutes were, they do show that I was consistently following all traffic laws, even before the unexpected encounter with the police officer.
Honestly, I would have uploaded a shorter snippet, but my GoPro was acting up, so I decided to just upload the entire 12 minute unedited video file for simplicity.
Dorchester road. I live a stones throw from the Harley shop. Man you are traveling pretty fast. I'm just starting to ride a bike around this area and looking forward to learning what the rules of the road are for bikes. I was riding on Dorchester Road the other day and stayed on the sidewalk . I'm not all that confident with the drivers on Dorchester Road to ride in the lane yet . Although cops did pass me , I'm sure that riding on the sidewalk is illegal? Thank you for your upload
Hey neighbor! I agree that Dorchester Road is nerve-wracking and riding on the sidewalk (at least on the overpasses) is sometimes the safest bet.
Technically in North Charleston riding on the sidewalk is NOT illegal (as far as I can tell - I haven't been able to find a City ordinance prohibiting it like in downtown Charleston).
Happy riding!
Cop was nice but you were right on both counts.
Also it's frowned upon the ride on the sidewalk you're supposed to use the road.
Don't worry about my safety I'm a grown fkn man!!!!
Nevermind wrong way on a roudabout or running a stop sign or traveling in the center lane .
As a car driver I have, in recent years, seen cyclists with those tiny, goofy even, flashing lights at the front and rear of their bikes. From a distance, I wondered what it was. "OH! It's a BIKE!" I have to comment. I was picking up on a bike being ahead of me 2+ blocks away! In my humble opinion, they work GREAT and are relatively cheap... even the dollar store sells them!! I don't want to say they should be mandatory (We have enough laws as it is.) but they sure are effective! Much better than reflectors and glow in the dark vests. Those lights stand out even in bright sunshine!
They are called day light running lights. Its just often a setting on lights. Low, Medium, High, Daylight, Night flash (sometimes come with it). Rears often have low, medium, high solid lights then solid low flash, high intensity, then strobe. Dollar stores sell blinkies which are more or less these settings for a dollar :)
They are allowed to use the center of the lane.
That cop must have been bored with nothing else to do then to pull you over for that. You did sign yr rights away by getting government liesence.
as a bike rider you have as much right to the road as a car. the only thing being is the center of the road is where most of the oil drip off the cars. i'm always looking for slip hazerds.
You don't have the right to impede traffic by any means
@@chadbrown4969 hes not , they can follow the cyclist at the speed the cyclist is going , so they are not being impeded are they
They are
@@gfish9636 wrong . By you mind set a slow moving heavy lorry is impeding a faster vehicle.
Ok. I am riding an unstable vehicle with no ability to accelerate or stop quickly from anything but a fast runner’s speed, it has no turn signals nor brake lights, I pay no road tax and I can hardly speak because I am so out of breath. I also like to refer to people by their ethnicity as I guess it to be. What a self entitled fool!
There is no cycling lane, unsafe directive. Lane changers has a faster change identifying a cyclist in the right lane . A better safety preventive law not enforced is the move over or no passing cyclist in the same lane law on the roadway.
50/50 bike should have stopped for yellow light. The light just turned red as you crossed the line. Cop should know that cyclist are likely to get side swipe by cars cutting close. There were more then one lane of travel and he was keeping to right lane.
Do not say you are riding in middle of lane because you are riding like traffic but you did just blow through the red light. The video confirms you blew the red light and then just lied to the officer. You are right to ride in middle of lane … you are wrong to blow the red light. He should have given you a ticket for that
Sweet video... Thanks a lot.
Skip to 10:38 and save more than 600 seconds of your life.
Can cops give out tickets to cyclist, I mean bikes don’t have motors so....
You run the red light you get hit by a car whose fault is it? Yours so yes they can give you a ticket, also if you drink and ride your bike you can get a DUI ticket where I am from...
“Thank you, you too 🤨”
I hate cyclist until I ride one then I hate cars, and I just hate " ive been driving for twenty yesrs cab drivers, period.
Skipped ahead, but still didn't see any interesting parts.
Lol i have mountain bike and a bike that is motorized im 11 and cops tried to chase me most time because ITs A GoS oPeRaTeD vEcHiLe lol just get em to think im a good kid so they dont hold your bike and speed away ps dont try this if your like 16 or older
Really don’t se you riding for a quarter of the video
That cop lied about going through red light. Wow
It looked red to me.
It turned red just as he entered the intersection.
CAMERA SAVED HIS A
Took 10 minutes to get to the point.
Good cop. Just wanted you to be "as far right as you could" for your own safety. Misleading headline.
they just hafta say SOMETHING! smh.. and thk u for posting the whole bike ride up to the stop.. im now a witness to say u did everything right according to the bike laws.. lol..
Just build some bike lanes for this wealthy car infested area
This is my pet peave: cops and members of the public who don't know the laws or bike safety lecturing cyclists about where and when they should ride. In a lane that narrow and with another lane to the left, he was riding precisely as he should have. Even if there was no other lane, he was riding correctly. That lane is too narrow for a car and a bike to share. Riding on the right edge of the road would be the least safe option here. It only invites people to try and squeeze in between you and another car.
I get it. People see cyclists riding poorly all the time and have an attitude against cyclists. But you were in the right. I'd have done the same no matter who disapproves.
His point about the sun glare would have been valid had the sun not been coming from behind. If I can help it, I never ride into the setting sun.
Well yes cyclists belong to the right. But....not always. It depends on several things. How busy is the road, how narrow condition, type of traffic, type of rider, even the weather like sun or rain. The point is it is up to the cyclist what to do. And not the cop.
Now if they just make that sidewalk a bit smoother and turn it into a proper cycle path, then the problem is solved. Because the real danger is having to change lanes the whole time. If you want cyclists to keep to the right, then they ill need their own separate crossing. On the junction is where it matters. Trust me, I can jump all red light in the entire USA and I will be safer then to wait for green. I can stop for cars coming from the left or right. The dangerous cars are next and behind me! Those are the cars I am worried about. And the funny thing is so was the cop. If he really wants you to be safe, he should tell you to ignore the stupid traffic lights and look for a gap in traffic.
10:20 you're busted. Change the clickbait title.
well that was a big pile of nothing
I would ride bike as far to side as I could safely but it is my understanding this cyclist is legal, it's cops that are illegal. Cyclist inconvenienced someone do they called po po.
I mean... the officer was nice. I would be happy with that interaction.
He was polite and wrong. No need for the stop.
@@kevinsturgess1717 He wasnt wrong. He did in fact run the red light as he said. Its on camera, even though the bicyclist lied and said he got himself on camera NOT running the red light. Its clear to me he did.
@10:19
@@DrummerJacob Light was green just before he got to the intersection. You can not see when it changes as he crosses the stop line.
Dang it, can't really mess with this Cyclist , cause he got a camra on his head. Funny how they back off when there is a Video present. Red Light baloney would have gone different without the Camera.
10:19 red light lol
The light was yellow when he entered the intersection.
You would think he's mix race
YOu only have to be to the right when there is no lines marking the lanes. on an OPEN ROAD>
From Motorist to Law enforcement its illegal for them Harass us cyclist or tell cyclist where they can and can not ride. State Must have signs posted saying cyclist is not permitted on the road. If law enforcement flags you as a cyclist down and you cant ride on the road they must provide evidence where it says state law and possible city/county law.
Sidewalk is for Pedestrian not cyclist. I recommend getting in contact with your State Bike lawyer for information but also city ordinance
Welp, thanks for wasting my time.
Just watch the last 30 seconds.... Your welcome
Very courteous cop, but of course, the cyclist is always right and lies about the red light.
120-seconds stop at a red light. If safe, a bicyclist, moped or motorcycle can legally drive through a red light in SC
@@MindScienceAlchemy a motorcycle? Now I know you're full of shit. Link the law.
56-5-970 (5) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, if a driver of a motorcycle or moped, or a bicycle rider, approaches an intersection that is controlled by a traffic-control device, the driver may proceed through the intersection on a steady red light only if the driver or rider, as the case may be:
(a) comes to a full and complete stop at the intersection for one hundred twenty seconds; and
(b) exercises due care as provided by law, otherwise treats the traffic control device as a stop sign, and determines it is safe to proceed.
@@eddiej.g.3998 That's not "driving through a red light". The law is evidently just courteous to people having to stop for over 2 minutes when there's absolutely no cars or pedestrians coming.
You asked for the law cited by @mindsciencealchemy.
He deserved a ticket for running the red light. One of the few times I’m on the side of a traffic cop
Lmao u wouldn't stand a chance in miami Philly Chicago alfalfa or cali
The light was yellow when he entered the intersection.
I,m with the cop on this one........safer ..as far r h s as possible
Seen this before Cop needs to try Decaf
Acting like you did nothing wrong! Holding up traffic making people go around, and by the way he wasn't "mixed or Mexican like you said
THE COP SEEN THE CAMERA AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WANTED TO BE YOUR FRIEND
You don't know that for a fact. The cop's point was that, even though the cyclist may be in the right, he didn't have much trust in the motorist. If you ride in the middle of the lane, some motorists get impatient, if they can't get by you. I prefer to ride in the bike lane. I would try to avoid streets with no bike lanes.
@@crustydog1666 I didn't actually see any bike lanes in this video along the route taken.
Some of us are dead-set against the notion that law-abiding road users should cede their rights to law-breaking road users. Letting the inmates run the asylum, so to speak.
At 10:21 mark you went through red light , police officer was correct
keith brown it was amber and a half
You're right that the light was red at 10:21 when I finished crossing the intersection, but it was yellow when I first entered the intersection, therefore I was in the intersection legally. Police officer was incorrect but I can't blame him since he was looking west and had the sun in his eyes, plus he was a few hundred yards away.
You're required to stop on a yellow if safe to do so. It was safe to do so. You ran the red.
Can you please point me to the part of the law that supports your statement? By my reading of South Carolina state law, a steady yellow light simply means that a red light is coming - it does NOT require someone to "stop if it is safe to do so." (www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t56c005.php - see SECTION 56-5-970, Traffic-control signal legend). If it's mentioned somewhere else that I'm overlooking, I'm open to correction.
You are correct, I stand corrected.
Cop was chill too.
Long video about nothing.
Yea cyclist you did run it. That cop handled that stop perfectly. That cops a keeper.
Fucking oath. The cop was great.
Fuck I hate people like this.
That was a good encounter. Thanks officer for the respect and kindness.
Fun fact drivers share the roads with us cyclist so as long as there is only 1 lane stay to the side as close as the storm sewers now if it was a double lane you'd have been fine
"I got ya, I got ya brother...."
(a) it is less safer to ride at the side of the road not only because other drives are trying pass in he same lane but also I riding along the side of the road the cyclist can inavertly steer to the side of the road and come off their bicycle.
(B) don't call me your brother
You did great I think you were within the law all the way
Except the part where he ran the red light and then lied about it? Or did that not happen even though you can see it happening? Im confused.
God damn nobody wants to see just riding the bike. People want to see title. Fun starts at 12:00
I enjoyed watching the ride. He was in my neighborhood. The dude rides pretty fast. I was impressed
@@MindScienceAlchemy well there you go. Someone did want to see the ride. I stand corrected.
Get a bright flashing rear light that can be seen in the daytime! Stay safe, seems smart to ride in the middle on a big two-lane road like this. Better to have people pass you in a separate Lane then try to have people whizzing by and force you to the edge of the lane
Anyway I would make sure you're really visible. Get a bright flashing light for the back that people can see.
At one point he was on the pavement. Was that acceptable? Presumably, had a pedestrian been on that pavement, and had been knocked over and killed, the cyclist would now be in jail for manslaughter!
And u blew through a stop sign at the beginning of video
I didn't see him blow through a stop sign. What minute mark was it at?
Paul Barnard 23 sec
I always wondered what my fellow motorist mean when they say a cyclist "blew through a stop sign." Now I know it means rolling through at 3-4 MPH, just like the car in front of him, and checking for traffic multiple times.
You can't choose what laws to follow. If you are going to upload a video like this, at least edit out the part where you fail to stop for a stop sign.
I never know quite how to respond when someone's reality stands in stark contrast to my own. I have never known a single person who obeys all laws all the time. My observation is that every driver picks and chooses which laws they want to follow. Do you know anyone who never slow rolls a stop, never slow rolls a right on red, always signals every lane change and turn and never goes so much as one MPH over the limit? I don't. We all break the law when we think we can do it harmlessly.
Click bait !!!
he did jump red light liar
He was a nice cop !
Cop’s a jerk. If he didn’t think the guy wasn’t telling him the truth so he gets in his face and calls him a liar multiple times. Unnecessary. On top of that he let’s the pack go when it was clear he saw them all blow through the intersection.
What's the betting that if a car had overtaken on the double yellows who the cop would have gone after.
Car or bike?
anytime a video begins in the guys house...its gonna be stupid