Top tip for mounting tyres on your so called "wrong" wheels. It's called a reversed lip, this means you put the wheel on the tyre machine upside down. This way the tyre goes onto it easy.
I squashed part of a Rim Edge using an Hydraulic press while I was working on the Centre-Flip for one of the Wheels I'm doing on my Daughter's '71 Beetle. Luckily I had a Spare, so I cut out a Circle from a piece of thick Plywood that fitted inside the Rim Lip. That way, I wasn't pressing on the Lip, but on the Inner Angle, so no more lip damage.
Ah ye, really smart! I do the same when i hammer on the outter lip and newly added steelbank on conventional/easy widened rims. The 17" x4" rims u see i do this .So i, as u say, dont bend the absolut outter lip. Thanks for sharing that! knowledge is king!
Pretty good work there. When pressing out the centers on your press, light pressure from the press, then hit with a hammer lightly with no chisel. The vibration will move the center without bending it. The press just gives it the direction to move with the light pressure.
Thank you! Yes, ive tried that, but didnt get the results i was looking for. The center didnt wanna move.... But i pretty certain if i try again and do it more properly it would work better. The wheels i usually do is the newever type, like 2008 and forward for volvos, and those rims are tighter then older rims. Helluva lotta work! :P
Thanks for the vid. I have Peugeot van rims, 5x108, 7x17, et45something. Round holes! For my 240 I'm gonna swap inner and outer ring, gives me the right et value and some dish.
Hi mate Try using an sds drill on hammer with the chisel in instead of a big hammer and chisel to make the finer adjustments, I find you can make really controlled adjustments and it stops things bouncing about. Thanks for the vid a uk Volvo 240 (420) fan
U're right! I never got around to test this but i ground some chisels down. New job now that takes up alot of time so no time to make wheels anymore :( U're into wheel making?
Thanks for the video and explanation! This made me decide to widen my 17” steelies myself. I’m gonna build a rig like you have from an old 850/V70 wheelhub and a mount to put a grinder in. I’m also going to add a gauge to check if everything is square before I weld eveything. What would you recommend for widening steelies on a 245? Add a 3/4cm to the front wheels and back and flip the centers on the rear wheels? And also; did you but the strips pre-bent? Or did you bend then yourself?
Excellent decision! Hope u make a bid or something when u get started 😊 On a Volvo 240 the rear can swallow an OK amount of lip. Till the fenders, or better yet just cut some of it out. Volvo did a slight calculation error so the rear Axel is farther back then the fender. So it's gonna rub on the back of the fenders. Not sure exactly what CM u should go on but throw the wheel on and check. I would do the same style of widening, front and rear, else it looks like two different wheels. I bought the metal one cut and rolled it at my old school. But I think it's best to just buy it already cut and rolled. Easier. Good luck with the wheels!! :)
Thanks for the reply! I got a wheel hub last weekend and started on building the rig already. I'd probably widen all wheels the same way, instead of flipping the rear and not the front wheels. Now I only need to find a source for the rings to weld. Or build a bending machine to make the hoops myself.
Johan van Tongeren Awesome! Problem i had was that most metalshops didn't wanna make JUST 4 banded metal pieces, They wanna make huuuge profit on everything :p Try to find a nice little roofing shop or metalshop to get the metal done right. It's cheaper in the end and they cut it straight and true....hopefully X)
think my chevrolet fullsize pickuptruck has 5 on 105as for pushing out the center , you can make a pushtool , basicly a thick plat with a thickwall ring welded on that and machined to fit realy good against the edges of the center you drop it in the rim against de edges of the center from the back and use the press to push it out without pushing in the middle and maibe bend the center out of shape
Hey, can you explain me about the opel rims, I have the same and I wonder if it’s gonna be better if I flip the first and then widen them, so the added part is on the non visible side? Thanks
Exactly, u got it right! U get the bigger part, the more space, if u have the "inner barrel" outwards. The Wheel will appear bigger and u won't need to grind down welds and make it look better. Its more of an visible esteticly pleasing...view :p
Unfortunately no :( Been almost a year off from the wheel making. Got a little burned out from it but I will be back! I still set up the center in mill. ...seriously need a jig tho. Thanks for commentating!
@@creamtube of course! I'd definitely look forward to you pumping out some more content. You do a good job of explaining and keep it simple yet informative. I'm sure if you do any car modifications as well it would be good content. I have a 13 genesis sedan and they have a huge bore size so finding proper wheels isn't easy. I might set up a jig and if it works well I can send you the specifics if you'd like?
Oj, är den så tydlig? :D iom att jag inte gör fälgar knappt alls längre(händer ibland) så kan jag väl bara rekomendera blocket. Även facebook marketplace, eller ännu hellre Fälgar köp sälj bytes. Det dyker upp ibland
alex gustafsson Det är lite beroende på. hittar du fälgar kan jag dra av några hundra. typ 2000, vilket kanske är lite dyrt, men jag brukar inte ta beställningar. just nu breddar jag det jag själv hittar och säljer, då vissa fälgar är skrot från början och vill inte att den som lämnar sina fälgar ska tro jag sabbat dom. meeeen inga priser är huggna i sten! Örebro län, Kumla :)
ROAD-RUNNER the ones in the vid or in general? Yes, kinda, but it's basically the same thing :) Trying a new way to center turn which might turn out to be better. Less fiddle with balancing. Gonna make a vid about it someday
William Mattsson tjena! tyvärr ingen jigg än för 4/100. blir väl med framtiden men har typ ingen tid nu till fälgar... mins egna projekt står lite stilla. men ska försöka pilla ihop en liten jigg snart hoppas jag. hör annars med intera eller.....vad de andra nu hette. finns några fälgföretag som grejar detta
Oh here we go.... No. "oh but why does the welds look like shit then..." Just a bad welder x) I cut thru an weld and it was solid and no holes or pins. Tho i have gotten pipes sometimes. But then again, the welds isnt showing that well video ;)
Very few alloy rims are made the same way as these steel ones. Some new production wheels are block made but i guess we wanna find cheap used ones. So basically no, they cant :/
That’s for the video. I want to have a steel 15’ wheels made for my VW vanagon. I am going for the deep dish look can I do 15 x 6.5 on the and 15x7 on the back with ET 35...! But don’t want to have the tire going out pass my fender! Please help me with my measurements
What year is your vw? Test a wheel u know fits, find the ET for it and messure from the lip out to your fender. Do u want to centerflip and widened or just widened? Just widened as usual, just messure from the lip out. Else try to think in revers. et 0 is the middle of a wheel. 35 is just 35mm off center. But, since u have 6.5-7" rims, it will be fine probably. THrow some camber on and u have more room to play with :)
ali nazeer Ye, the rims keeps getting sold before I can put them on anything xD. sorry about that! maby getting a continuous stance project to work on soon, a friends car... keep a lookout for that :) Rly cool of u to even remember my channel, bro!!
Waagaard Det är lite knepigt men bilskrotarna har, dock alldeles för dyra enligt mig. 400kr e åt väggarna fel :p annars får man luska om nån har reservdelsbilar som står
creamtube I bet you if you start Volvo series it would be a huge success just look att driftsNlift or braden carlson. Everyone loves bricks even I own a 945 turbo
Original Players sorry, i cant sell outside Sweden :( Where are u from? Maybe I can get u in contact with someone more local. Got a few dudes I know of
Original Players im in Örebro. Im Kinda on a hold with the rim making now, time is little :p What car do u want rims for? Im gonna see if I can find someone in Denmark if nothing else :)
razmus andersson tjena! jag visst kan vi tjöta lite. dock lite osäker på specialbeställningar. har inte alla bultmönster till min jigg, men fråga på du, så svarar jag så gott jag kan! :)
Jimmy Weber A whole different beast. Very different to weld all the kinds of alloy mixtures most aluwheels has. And u can just extend the lip, much more variations on steel wheels. Yet again, it's "just steel wheels
Top tip for mounting tyres on your so called "wrong" wheels.
It's called a reversed lip, this means you put the wheel on the tyre machine upside down.
This way the tyre goes onto it easy.
I squashed part of a Rim Edge using an Hydraulic press while I was working on the Centre-Flip for one of the Wheels I'm doing on my Daughter's '71 Beetle.
Luckily I had a Spare, so I cut out a Circle from a piece of thick Plywood that fitted inside the Rim Lip.
That way, I wasn't pressing on the Lip, but on the Inner Angle, so no more lip damage.
Ah ye, really smart! I do the same when i hammer on the outter lip and newly added steelbank on conventional/easy widened rims. The 17" x4" rims u see i do this .So i, as u say, dont bend the absolut outter lip.
Thanks for sharing that! knowledge is king!
Pretty good work there. When pressing out the centers on your press, light pressure from the press, then hit with a hammer lightly with no chisel. The vibration will move the center without bending it. The press just gives it the direction to move with the light pressure.
Thank you!
Yes, ive tried that, but didnt get the results i was looking for. The center didnt wanna move.... But i pretty certain if i try again and do it more properly it would work better.
The wheels i usually do is the newever type, like 2008 and forward for volvos, and those rims are tighter then older rims. Helluva lotta work! :P
Try this method with heating the wheel with a torch as well. Thermal expansion and hitting with a hammer to vibrate the 2 pieces apart may work well.
Awesome video my man!!!!
Very cool and helpful, thanks for the video.
Cheers mate!
Thanks for the vid. I have Peugeot van rims, 5x108, 7x17, et45something. Round holes! For my 240 I'm gonna swap inner and outer ring, gives me the right et value and some dish.
Woot, what van and year are they from? Awesome, remember to show pics when u do it!!
@@creamtube yes, will let you know!
Not sure yet where the wheels are from. Will look for part number.
keep up the good work!!! greetings from NL
THANKS FOR YOUR EXPERIENCE MAN YOU PUT YOUR GOOD
Tajammal Hussain Happy to share, thanks for watching!!
finally the sequel ive been waiting for!
Dr. Zoidberg haha, that makes me happy to hear! X)
16:31 Best part!
wow! I think ill try this. Awesome vid
Richard Vanhorn Go for it!!
Finally Spot Welding is not Recommered for wheels. but for the first time good work
thanks for the vid. greetings from canada.
Thank YOU! :)
Hi mate
Try using an sds drill on hammer with the chisel in instead of a big hammer and chisel to make the finer adjustments, I find you can make really controlled adjustments and it stops things bouncing about.
Thanks for the vid a uk Volvo 240 (420) fan
U're right! I never got around to test this but i ground some chisels down.
New job now that takes up alot of time so no time to make wheels anymore :(
U're into wheel making?
I recommend less bevel grinding on edges you are going to weld. I have seen other pieces fail right beside the weld parallel to it.
These look just like the steel wheels on my Crown Vic. Width is good, but less offset would be awesome
Thanks for the video and explanation! This made me decide to widen my 17” steelies myself. I’m gonna build a rig like you have from an old 850/V70 wheelhub and a mount to put a grinder in. I’m also going to add a gauge to check if everything is square before I weld eveything.
What would you recommend for widening steelies on a 245? Add a 3/4cm to the front wheels and back and flip the centers on the rear wheels?
And also; did you but the strips pre-bent? Or did you bend then yourself?
Excellent decision! Hope u make a bid or something when u get started 😊
On a Volvo 240 the rear can swallow an OK amount of lip. Till the fenders, or better yet just cut some of it out. Volvo did a slight calculation error so the rear Axel is farther back then the fender. So it's gonna rub on the back of the fenders. Not sure exactly what CM u should go on but throw the wheel on and check.
I would do the same style of widening, front and rear, else it looks like two different wheels.
I bought the metal one cut and rolled it at my old school. But I think it's best to just buy it already cut and rolled. Easier.
Good luck with the wheels!! :)
Thanks for the reply! I got a wheel hub last weekend and started on building the rig already. I'd probably widen all wheels the same way, instead of flipping the rear and not the front wheels. Now I only need to find a source for the rings to weld. Or build a bending machine to make the hoops myself.
Johan van Tongeren Awesome! Problem i had was that most metalshops didn't wanna make JUST 4 banded metal pieces, They wanna make huuuge profit on everything :p
Try to find a nice little roofing shop or metalshop to get the metal done right. It's cheaper in the end and they cut it straight and true....hopefully X)
think my chevrolet fullsize pickuptruck has 5 on 105as for pushing out the center , you can make a pushtool , basicly a thick plat with a thickwall ring welded on that and machined to fit realy good against the edges of the center
you drop it in the rim against de edges of the center from the back and use the press to push it out without pushing in the middle and maibe bend the center out of shape
i actually preffer the "ugly way" cuz it's functional, cuz it works.. lel
cool video.. i did enjoy it (y)
Hey, can you explain me about the opel rims, I have the same and I wonder if it’s gonna be better if I flip the first and then widen them, so the added part is on the non visible side? Thanks
Exactly, u got it right!
U get the bigger part, the more space, if u have the "inner barrel" outwards.
The Wheel will appear bigger and u won't need to grind down welds and make it look better. Its more of an visible esteticly pleasing...view :p
Nice bro👌
Very good video. I subscribed.
Nice
Great video. What thickness steel do you use for the band?
Paul Sulfa Thanks! 2.5mm. I've seen a "pro" use only 2mm, but 2.5 has always worked for me. Strong and durable, for even rally driving :)
those space savers are the dogs danglers dude (y)
Ratsquid pff Hahaha!
If your making these still I'd love a set for my 91 740 turbo estate....they will look soo sweet!
Kinda sorta do. Next year i hope to start my new machine and improve that ...so hang in there x)
@@creamtube I need A steel rims like that' in A 17 x 10 1/2 to Fit A 255 / 40 / 17
...5 x 120 bolt pattern"
Did you make the jig for the center bore yet? If you manage to make something that works well for it I am very interested in seeing more on it.
Unfortunately no :(
Been almost a year off from the wheel making. Got a little burned out from it but I will be back!
I still set up the center in mill.
...seriously need a jig tho.
Thanks for commentating!
@@creamtube of course! I'd definitely look forward to you pumping out some more content. You do a good job of explaining and keep it simple yet informative. I'm sure if you do any car modifications as well it would be good content. I have a 13 genesis sedan and they have a huge bore size so finding proper wheels isn't easy. I might set up a jig and if it works well I can send you the specifics if you'd like?
@@faitkeeper Thats awesome to hear, rly makes me happy!
Ah, Ye, some cars are tricky.
Sure, send it! We can share thoughts and ideas :)
Muito bom Chuck
2nd last wheel the one that didn’t go in you needa heat rim so the center will fall in perfect
Cant remember the details completely but the wheel would need to stretch way too much for it with just heat... If remember correctly
Haha 😅 Älskar din Svengelska!
En fråga, Var kan man få tag i 17" centrumvända Volvo fälgar?
Oj, är den så tydlig? :D
iom att jag inte gör fälgar knappt alls längre(händer ibland) så kan jag väl bara rekomendera blocket. Även facebook marketplace, eller ännu hellre Fälgar köp sälj bytes. Det dyker upp ibland
@@creamtube Tack jag får kika runt lite eller sluta lata mig å göra mig ett par istället.
Vad kostar de om du breddar ett set med V70 reservhjul? Och i vilket län håller du hus? :)
alex gustafsson Det är lite beroende på. hittar du fälgar kan jag dra av några hundra.
typ 2000, vilket kanske är lite dyrt, men jag brukar inte ta beställningar. just nu breddar jag det jag själv hittar och säljer, då vissa fälgar är skrot från början och vill inte att den som lämnar sina fälgar ska tro jag sabbat dom.
meeeen inga priser är huggna i sten!
Örebro län, Kumla :)
creamtube 2000 är inte alls dyrt , prova köp ett par nya plåt fälgar ska du se ;)
I think the "ugly" looks way better
William Neigum good with variety, we can't all like the same :)
the no-hole-rims can Ofc be 17" and have the "nice" widening :)
you can watch a photos on my instagram
instagram.com/newworldofdisorder/
hi have you tried to flip the center on opel wheels ???:)
ROAD-RUNNER the ones in the vid or in general? Yes, kinda, but it's basically the same thing :)
Trying a new way to center turn which might turn out to be better. Less fiddle with balancing. Gonna make a vid about it someday
Id like to do that on a set of 22.5 steel wheels i have as well as flip the center
Go for it! I would love to mod some truckwheels or something
how do you roll/shape the steel band? nice work,
My English if failing me... What the heck is the name, I've watched tons of vids about how to build one and I have one... But i cant remember xddd
are they, slip rollers?
Congratulations good job with wheels, here in Brazil I'm Welding with the process TIG because is better...
Cezar Rodrigo thanks mate!
Ye, tig looks so much cleaner... too expensive tho for me :(
tjena, jag letar för fullt efter någon som kan bredda mina fälgar till skodan är det något du kan göra?
William Mattsson tjena! tyvärr ingen jigg än för 4/100. blir väl med framtiden men har typ ingen tid nu till fälgar... mins egna projekt står lite stilla.
men ska försöka pilla ihop en liten jigg snart hoppas jag.
hör annars med intera eller.....vad de andra nu hette. finns några fälgföretag som grejar detta
Are you using flux core wire ?
Oh here we go.... No.
"oh but why does the welds look like shit then..." Just a bad welder x) I cut thru an weld and it was solid and no holes or pins. Tho i have gotten pipes sometimes.
But then again, the welds isnt showing that well video ;)
can alloy wheels be widened this way ?
Very few alloy rims are made the same way as these steel ones. Some new production wheels are block made but i guess we wanna find cheap used ones. So basically no, they cant :/
How safe are they? Er de sikkre å kjøre på veien?
Jajamen. Bara man svetsar bra så är det lungt. Om du kollar på vissa original plåtfälgar så kan man bli rädd😂
var i svealand bor pågen och vad kostar ett par fälgar?
En bit ifrån Örebro och just nu ligger allt lite på is. Massa annat att stå i ... vilket man inte vill egentligen :/
i flipper the center on malibu rims. with no problem
Any more info on this?
@@SHREDTOKILL what info do you want? cut the center part hammer it ot. flip it, weld it
Pics...
That’s for the video. I want to have a steel 15’ wheels made for my VW vanagon. I am going for the deep dish look can I do 15 x 6.5 on the and 15x7 on the back with ET 35...! But don’t want to have the tire going out pass my fender! Please help me with my measurements
What year is your vw? Test a wheel u know fits, find the ET for it and messure from the lip out to your fender.
Do u want to centerflip and widened or just widened? Just widened as usual, just messure from the lip out.
Else try to think in revers. et 0 is the middle of a wheel. 35 is just 35mm off center. But, since u have 6.5-7" rims, it will be fine probably. THrow some camber on and u have more room to play with :)
creamtube my VW is 1984 VW transporter...
@@payawong4260 do a Google Search? Something like: 1984 transporter stance
Norge? hvor holder du til?
martinmo195 det dumma Sverige ! :D
var i sverige bor du o håller du fortfarande på med detta för e sugen på o ha mina plåtisar breddade!
Söder om Örebro men håller inte riktigt på med de just nu... Lite stiltje. Vääääldigt lite pengar att tjäna :p
How do you take out the centre
Cut the welds, hammer and chisel (blunt chisel) and just evenly knock it out. Painstaking task
Hii bro u didn't upload your car video :(
ali nazeer Ye, the rims keeps getting sold before I can put them on anything xD. sorry about that!
maby getting a continuous stance project to work on soon, a friends car... keep a lookout for that :)
Rly cool of u to even remember my channel, bro!!
Hur tjock plåt brukar du köra?
drift0141 2mm. kan tyckas tunt men det är vad det flesta innan mig kört med, tex. manne från Karlstad.
a lot of porosity and lack of fusion with all those spot welds. Low gas coverage while the puddle cools. Try to just weld.
Wrong, no pipes or pins. Penetrated well but yes, the spotwelds changed in all the other sets
Vart hittar du reservhjulen till en V70
Waagaard Det är lite knepigt men bilskrotarna har, dock alldeles för dyra enligt mig. 400kr e åt väggarna fel :p annars får man luska om nån har reservdelsbilar som står
Should show your volvo some time
krille438 got a few... and they are all not worthy to show really X)
might get the old 244 running with some wheels soon.
spring is nye in Sweden :)
creamtube I bet you if you start Volvo series it would be a huge success just look att driftsNlift or braden carlson. Everyone loves bricks even I own a 945 turbo
krille438 hehe, Ye! Ure prally right about that.
don't know who Braden is, gotta check him out!
Vilken svets använder du?
En gammal industrisvets, mig.
Bara man har en okej svets så går allt 😊
@@creamtube Tackar snabb respons :)
please sell over seas need these
If it only was economical, i would be happy to!
Cream it the steel wheels whit the reversed offset im interested in. 🤝
Original Players sorry, i cant sell outside Sweden :(
Where are u from? Maybe I can get u in contact with someone more local. Got a few dudes I know of
creamtube im from denmark. I could come over and pick em up? What town do you live in.
But if you know anybody from denmark it could be sweet
Original Players im in Örebro.
Im Kinda on a hold with the rim making now, time is little :p
What car do u want rims for?
Im gonna see if I can find someone in Denmark if nothing else :)
creamtube need for the bmw 520i e39 😉
Antar att du är från sverige, kan man komma i kontakt med mig? skulle behöva ett par fälgar. Mvh Rasmus
razmus andersson tjena! jag visst kan vi tjöta lite. dock lite osäker på specialbeställningar. har inte alla bultmönster till min jigg, men fråga på du, så svarar jag så gott jag kan! :)
creamtube behöver bara hjälp att få min plåtfälgar till min Volvo 945 lite bredare.
razmus andersson Okej, är det vanlig breddning du villa ha, dvs den enklaste? 15"?
looks great im to big of a pussy myself to do it XD
Ian Duijsens get some scrap wheels and just try it out! it's slot of work tho... X)
creamtube yeah im looking at it but im kinda a poor fuck with all the project i have and i only have a stick welder
and i dont have a car to try them on XD before thinking about selling them
What about doing aluminum wheels?
Jimmy Weber A whole different beast. Very different to weld all the kinds of alloy mixtures most aluwheels has. And u can just extend the lip, much more variations on steel wheels. Yet again, it's "just steel wheels
creamtube thanks, was thinking about aiding some old American racing wheels, thanks for the info.
weld lv999
Szoke Szabolcs Hehe!
Säljer du ?
JA, typ, när jag hunnit gjort några hehe. Har några femekrade 16" på g. Åker väl upp på blocket om en vecka eller två :)
suca blia :) :) :) :) very bad word bro :)