Ahh following the other video this brings back memories I was spare at Stonebridge Park plenty of times. Later years I commissioned the entry system at Stonebridge and in fact most of the post kings cross fire security systems Just got my TFL pension yay!!! Good memories good mates
Yes, it is a long, windswept lonely walk along that road which also leads into Wembley BR Traincare Depot, there is a left turn under the depot entrance tracks which took you there.
I remember before train radio was put in all the way to Harrow, that was one place the Line Controller could ask the Stonebridge Tower to put a call out to a passing service if they needed to get in touch.....happy days!
Hi soi another fantastic video I was wondering if you had any diesel traction learning video's or any other learning video's it's always a pleasure to watch wHAT you have posted Kind Regards from JASON 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
I do have some A60s there, i see about getting the vid up. There is a shot of a 38 stock railtour passing through on my upload here ua-cam.com/video/kBO6OJv5X2g/v-deo.html, enjoy!
A driver here back in 1990 did indeed hit the stops! The cab crumpled and virtually fell off......I seem to recall he kept his job. When this depot was built in the late 1980s LT could have made the stabling roads longer so there was an over-run but decided not to. See my vid of London Road Depot moves, again the drivers have to pull right up almost onto the stops! It is here ua-cam.com/video/9FtZ5nr9xOI/v-deo.html or look at the Elephant & Castle sidings moves here ua-cam.com/video/yOplc5w0JMM/v-deo.html, enjoy!
WS38 can only show a red aspect (no green or yellow). When it has cleared, the 2 white lights show, which is a shunt signal and you may proceed as far as the line is clear (ie until you come to another signal or another train ahead) so drivers proceed with caution and will be ready to stop quickly.
Interesting vid. Lots of information. Question though, the trains accelerate quickly w/o engine sound so assume to be electric traction motors. I also see a 3rd rail between rails and a 4th on outside. Is this how the locos are powered? If so, seems very dangerous for an exposed powered rail.
The London Underground is powered by electricity. The outside 3rd rail is power at 630 volts DC and the 4th (middle) rail is the traction current return. Check out the other videos in this series, the is a complete ride from Elephant & Castle to Harrow & Wealdstone as well as other depot & sidings moves. As well as the Underground some parts of National Rail are also powered by 3rd rail (but no 4th rail), it works well and has done so for about 100 years!
I always find these route learning videos fascinating, love them so much. A random question: entering the depot (from the station) and past the wash there are short sections of fourth rail (like at 1:37) which look like they’re sensors for something (similar to the speed detecting third rail ones on the Piccadilly). Am I right that they have a purpose or nope?
Soi Buakhao: I was thinking that too, isn’t the depot only for LU fourth rail trains? In which case maybe it’s to stop Network Rail/Overground trains from entering the depot I think...
Soi Buakhao These are Low Negative Shoe Detectors, which are short length of dummy negative rail located on depot reception roads: they are positioned just low enough that they should not be touched by a negative shoe. If this were to happen, a circuit would be completed and an alarm raised. Low negative shoes dangling in the four-foot could do a lot of damage when they reach pointwork - which is also why there are all those wooden “slipper runs” that make LU pointwork look much “busier” than NR.
I see at a lot of foot crossings and at end of platforms sometimes there are spikes or slats. Look very uncomfortable to walk on What are these properly called. I have never seen these anywhere except in UK videos.
In the UK we don't want people wandering around on the lines and it is to try and stop you doing just that! Abroad, railways in general are treated like roads, cross them at YOUR own risk!
It was the signal box code for Willesden Suburban. The box opened 1988 time when the old searchlight signals were replaced on the Watford DC lines and the boxes at Willesden Station and Harrow & Wealdstone closed. The new box controlled the line from around Primrose Hill to just short of Watford Junction (as i think it may still be doing today?).
Yes, the depot moves are quite interesting. Have you seen these two uploads of London Road and Elephant sidings? See them here ua-cam.com/video/yOplc5w0JMM/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/9FtZ5nr9xOI/v-deo.html, enjoy!
Plenty of sound. You can hear the sounds of the train moving, the traction brake controller being used, odd radio messages and the overlaid commentary.
Ahh following the other video this brings back memories I was spare at Stonebridge Park plenty of times. Later years I commissioned the entry system at Stonebridge and in fact most of the post kings cross fire security systems
Just got my TFL pension yay!!!
Good memories good mates
So you are now a man of leisure...well done!
Finally! My local depot. I remember accidentally trespassing down the road leading down here XD
Yes, it is a long, windswept lonely walk along that road which also leads into Wembley BR Traincare Depot, there is a left turn under the depot entrance tracks which took you there.
To us railfans, it's never a trespassing
@@AlfaRomeo128 Yes, i have crept round a few depot's in my time!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus That's where I got turned back
I used to work in that Control tower just outside the shed. In the 1980's
I remember before train radio was put in all the way to Harrow, that was one place the Line Controller could ask the Stonebridge Tower to put a call out to a passing service if they needed to get in touch.....happy days!
Hi soi another fantastic video I was wondering if you had any diesel traction learning video's or any other learning video's it's always a pleasure to watch wHAT you have posted Kind Regards from JASON 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Thanks jason. No other route learning vids sadly. I do have some cab views stiill to upload from places various and will do so over time
Great video.☺️
Great Vid. Thank you. I'd love to see anything from Rayners Lane, as that was my old manor! Thanks again.
I do have some A60s there, i see about getting the vid up. There is a shot of a 38 stock railtour passing through on my upload here ua-cam.com/video/kBO6OJv5X2g/v-deo.html, enjoy!
The Rayners Lane vid is now live here ua-cam.com/video/XGISG08GwPw/v-deo.html, enjoy!
Hi great video, have you got route learning videos of moves into queens park depot and sidings?
Queens Park will be a future upload, have no worries......
That Class 390 on the WCML is moving at a snail's pace at 5:52 onwards
That's because it's in Wembley Traincare Depot.....
Wow! No safety stop before bumper block. That is days in the street without pay for the NYC subway.
A driver here back in 1990 did indeed hit the stops! The cab crumpled and virtually fell off......I seem to recall he kept his job. When this depot was built in the late 1980s LT could have made the stabling roads longer so there was an over-run but decided not to. See my vid of London Road Depot moves, again the drivers have to pull right up almost onto the stops! It is here ua-cam.com/video/9FtZ5nr9xOI/v-deo.html or look at the Elephant & Castle sidings moves here ua-cam.com/video/yOplc5w0JMM/v-deo.html, enjoy!
Fantastic .
It's certainly interesting to see parts of the network the passengers never see.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus , thanks. In Brazil, São Paulo's metro has equal system. But I study the network London, too.
Another great video 👍
Thank you.
Notice the Virgin Trains coach at 0:50
There was Wembley Carriage sheds between Stonebridge Park Depot and the Watford DC Lines, which is where this coach was.
Why does WS38 appear red but train passes it after stopping at the board?
WS38 can only show a red aspect (no green or yellow). When it has cleared, the 2 white lights show, which is a shunt signal and you may proceed as far as the line is clear (ie until you come to another signal or another train ahead) so drivers proceed with caution and will be ready to stop quickly.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus We call it Permissive working.
@@tinboxesruleok5878 Correct! It is called permissive working, the piece i wrote above is what i remember from learning the BR Rulebook!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Yeah ,no problem and nice video,thanks.
nice green handrail stopping point
Is that the ews Caledonian sleeper service on the left on the viaduct pass ?
Yes, the sleeper stock is serviced at Wembley, even to this day.....
Are they any for the jubilee line
At the moment i only have the Bakerloo Line but you never know what i may turn up!
Interesting vid. Lots of information. Question though, the trains accelerate quickly w/o engine sound so assume to be electric traction motors. I also see a 3rd rail between rails and a 4th on outside. Is this how the locos are powered? If so, seems very dangerous for an exposed powered rail.
The London Underground is powered by electricity. The outside 3rd rail is power at 630 volts DC and the 4th (middle) rail is the traction current return. Check out the other videos in this series, the is a complete ride from Elephant & Castle to Harrow & Wealdstone as well as other depot & sidings moves. As well as the Underground some parts of National Rail are also powered by 3rd rail (but no 4th rail), it works well and has done so for about 100 years!
Not quite.
Side (third) rail is 420 VDC output
Center (fourth) rail is 210 VDC return
Both make for 630 VDC circuit.
It's done to avoid return traveling through the ground and messing up pipes and other metals
Rick Traveler Smith : thanks for the reply and info.
@@RRansomSmith sounds like an awfully complicated system.
Brilliant. Thank you
My pleasure.....
If the outside 3rd rail is for power what's the rail in the middle of the two main ones for?
That's the negative return. Main line trains don't use it only London Underground.
Negative traction return. 4 different reasons why London Underground system uses 4 Rail system.
What year was this filmed?
From the uploaded parts from the Elephant to Harrow, eagled eyed viewers have dated it to 2004 due to the film posters on the station platform walls.
Pattaya boi is a tube fan!
And a rail fan, bus fan, aviation fan.......and a fan of other things some of which are found in downtown Patts.......
I always find these route learning videos fascinating, love them so much. A random question: entering the depot (from the station) and past the wash there are short sections of fourth rail (like at 1:37) which look like they’re sensors for something (similar to the speed detecting third rail ones on the Piccadilly). Am I right that they have a purpose or nope?
I not certain what it is for, possibly a way of checking that the train isn't missing any negative shoes?
Soi Buakhao: I was thinking that too, isn’t the depot only for LU fourth rail trains? In which case maybe it’s to stop Network Rail/Overground trains from entering the depot I think...
Soi Buakhao These are Low Negative Shoe Detectors, which are short length of dummy negative rail located on depot reception roads: they are positioned just low enough that they should not be touched by a negative shoe. If this were to happen, a circuit would be completed and an alarm raised. Low negative shoes dangling in the four-foot could do a lot of damage when they reach pointwork - which is also why there are all those wooden “slipper runs” that make LU pointwork look much “busier” than NR.
@@squarewheelsorguk: Ah I see! Thank you very much for the explanation, you learn something new every day!
Richard Griffin: A very detailed answer 👍👍👍
I see at a lot of foot crossings and at end of platforms sometimes there are spikes or slats. Look very uncomfortable to walk on What are these properly called. I have never seen these anywhere except in UK videos.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_grid#/media/File:Rail_cattle_guard.jpg
we call it a cattle "grate"
In the UK we don't want people wandering around on the lines and it is to try and stop you doing just that! Abroad, railways in general are treated like roads, cross them at YOUR own risk!
What does WS mean?
It was the signal box code for Willesden Suburban. The box opened 1988 time when the old searchlight signals were replaced on the Watford DC lines and the boxes at Willesden Station and Harrow & Wealdstone closed. The new box controlled the line from around Primrose Hill to just short of Watford Junction (as i think it may still be doing today?).
very interesting
Yes, the depot moves are quite interesting. Have you seen these two uploads of London Road and Elephant sidings? See them here ua-cam.com/video/yOplc5w0JMM/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/9FtZ5nr9xOI/v-deo.html, enjoy!
Alter, ist das eine Rumpelbahn.
When this video was recorded
People who have studied the other uploads from this series say 2004 based on the film adverts posted up in the station platforms.
no sound?
Plenty of sound. You can hear the sounds of the train moving, the traction brake controller being used, odd radio messages and the overlaid commentary.