New AFFORDABLE Digital CLUSTER For BMW E9x Models
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- New AFFORDABLE Digital CLUSTER For BMW E9x Models
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Just an update, here is the more in depth look in to this after i had a chance to drive with it for 5 days. ua-cam.com/video/PcuEg4ZQMiE/v-deo.html
More themes would be nice , maybe the traditional e92 M3 style dial gauge with shift light option. Also configurable parameters to display a few ecu values such a boost would be great for the boosted guys.
That would be cool!
@@ZeroTo60Tube add it in your review for the firmware upgrade
This looks awesome! Wonder if it will be possible to get an AlPina themed skin for this?
@@ZeroTo60Tube I have to say that I have been on to support about a few issues with this cluster ,and are fantastic, got on messenger and solved all the issues immediately. I have no doubt that the firmware upgrades coming will be cool too. I have some installation book for this cluster that support sent me to access some other places to fix issues with cruise control and flat tyre monitor and other things and do not know if I can post it here for everyones use.?
That’s pretty cool! It amazes me that the e9x cars are over 15 years old now, but there still are new stuff being made for them!
It really is cool whats out there for them at the moment. There are things coming to the heart of the platform which will mean they stay around for much longer too.
This is awesome! I’m excited to see your next video on this one. I’m happy we have an affordable alternative because I really wanted this 😂
I am so happy with this cluster. Every warning light and operation is available and also super responsive. A few little things ,but on a whole I am very happy and impressed.
Nice of them to send you one, I hope it performs well!
Me too! Although the only issue i can find is the english translations
Looks pretty promising, was an early adopter to the ID4Motion on my e82 135 and havnt had any complaints with it other than the locked softwear.
Would be interesting to see if you coul boot Realdash onto these units, would love to have a few features from the canbus like IAT, boost levels, fuel pressure etc.
Also satnav in the cluster like the audis
the navi now can not, and i check with engineer for software, now software will not open for now, a pity
Can u change the image of the car on the left? I have an m3e92 and wonder if that works.
That’s crazy! I’m definitely getting 100,000%, you the 🐐!🔥
🙌 Its actually cool. More cool than i was expecting.
Looks very impressive mate, would be interested to see if the tach/speedo responds as fast as the analogue stock one, and also if all stock engine management/fault lights come up on it, fuel level, economy etc👍
I paid for this so being honest the Tacho and speedo all respond as required and boot up time is practically instant. A few little error issues but easy fixed as support respond within hour. I am more than happy and had no issues at all.
Yeah Bro, I purchased this cluster and it is super responsive and all warnings appear fine, and everything you get on the original cluster is definitely all on the new cluster and more. A few little grammatical errors and niggly things ,but on a whole I am really impressed.
@@Robert-xt8viumm “niggly”? 😮
More themes would be nice, maybe a theme like the M3 cluster. Also would be great an integration with a reverse camera, android auto for navigation and a blind spot sensors... Definetly i will order it next year!
it would be cool if they would include a full android boot mode so you could run the digital dash for maxxecu.
I was thinking the same thing. I imagine they will have support various canbus protocols sooner or later.
This is cool! I was wondering about this after I saw some pictures online. You guys got on it quick! Keep it up
Thanks! Will do!
Looks good. Could you check to see if you can switch it to miles for the speedometer?
this no problem, miles and km can switch via setting
I thought BMW owners didn't need indicators
Oh oh, no no, totally optional.
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That will probably be addressed with the 1.1 update, an indicator delete option
@@user-kd8gw1rk9x hahahah
True, but great luxury feature💁♀️
Looks really good. I cant wait to hear how you like it once you've got some time on it. Hopefully they come out with an E60 version in the future.
Hell yeah fuck id4 they are literally holding so many features back while still overpricing. 1000 usd for one cluster is ridiculous.
grat video, looking forward to your full review, may must have to get this :)
Can you change the readout from KMH to MPHand does it know if the car is RHD or LHD for door open indicators?
Just considering to get one of these.. vid right on time... thx
It needs a little bit of tweaking with some of the translations. However i am confident they will sort it out. Its a properly good unit.
Cool 😎 dash!
Love one for the e36 and e53!
Great video mate 👍
I picked one up a few weeks back and should be delivered tomorrow nice to see a review on in finally, I seen some sellers offering a rear view camera with it, so I bought the camera separately Can a rear view camera be connected to it from when you viewed it?
camera can not be added to this BMW cluster for now, and some ads said carplay android auto both NOT Support
It would be great if you could help them understand what we as a community need from this item. If they implement recommendations it would be awesome and would definitely beat id4motion in every single way.
so what is ur suggestion to this device if for selling?
@@CarlifemallEmily Custom gauges would be my number 1. It would be great to intercept CAN signals and display them on screen. There is loads of them. Boost, afr, timing and what not. There is a lot of people that know which CAN signal exactly they want, so you could make option to select custom one and make it possible to name it. That way you won't have to sniff and identify different signals, but we will make it happen. Then it would be awesome if you allow community to create themes. This would make it so much more customisable. Another thing that I'm not sure if its possible is that a lot of us run android units in their cars. It would be awesome to have them communicate and display music titles or navigation, but that's something I'm personally not so fussed about. The first two would be my main and most important ones. I would love to see 6wb cluster theme as well. I think it would work a little better with e9x vehicles.
This is awesome, I will have to buy this for my wife for her Bday next year. Can't wait to see a thorough review on this. I hope it will work with CIC based system as well pre-lci.
It will replace all the cluster in the e9x range. p.s this is the first mod my other half had to have a go of..... haha.
The GCG pad on the toolbox is a real channel OG
Hell yes it is
Thank you for reviewing! I have one for my BMW E90 too. Could you tell me how to download update firmware?
Niice one!! Hopefully it is not missing on something critical: oil level check menu for cars without ccc and also maybe service menus?
Service menus are there. However not sure about oil level check. That being said if you are a N54. The manual dipsticks are coming and just better, better in every way for an older car.
I’ve only ever thought of replacing my CCC with an Android/Apple CarPlay. Never my cluster bc I’m picky on input lag. 😂
Btw I ordered my aluminum water pump and thermostat from FCPEuro. Overnight shipped. Thanks for the recommendation from your older video. 😭
Good call!
It looks great and seems to be really responsive and well built but I love analog gauges for some reason lol. I drove rental Audi Q7 this summer and I kinda liked the digital cluster but at the same time I didn't. I don't know, I have mixed feelings about it. Makes E9x platform look much newer than it actually is though! CarPlay is a must I want to have for sure with my CCC unit, it's on the list!
carplay now can not support, we will key an eye on this
Wow, very cool Andrew! Also plug and play to DCT e90s? Dutch regards, Nico.
Yes and yes
I want to buy one. But want to see driving footage 1st. Want to be sure response is good and accurate. Don't want red line the car out because it's laggy... want see rpm and speed accuracy before purchase. Definitely want it tho!
Noted! However it seems fine based on the diesel. Might be a diff case with a powerful n54.
@@ZeroTo60Tube hopefully the next video is out before the 20th. Lol. I see that's when the sale they are having on them ends. Hahaha. But pricing is great, I recently thought about buying the IDMotion version but the spec version I wanted came in at 1500$. At that much much rather keep stock and throw money at better items. $600ish price point seems right for one.
Just ordered mine, gonna also be uploading a video to my channel as well! Thanks!
Pls update me when the video is done.
That's nice cluster for bmw.
For models with no navigation, options like follow home, signals option or sensor lights sensitivity, are available? I don't see any of those option in this cluster.
Hi I have just bought one of these for my E92 335d. Please be warned that the rev counter red line is still where the petrol model is 6000+. Lets hope they bring an update out for it.
this is effing cool af.........I LOVE it....looks so easy to install.
Takes less than a minute, once you realise you need to install it in two parts..... lol
Filing under :"Toys I can't afford but are cool" LOL. A nice update to the look of the E9X series for sure.
Man, like everything the prices of these will come down over time. Its a pretty good product considering its in the early stages.
Looks very interesting be great to get all of the options of extra gauges displayed when using mhd or Jb4 blue tooth interface would be nicer than fitting a crap Android based display of finding room to mount a adriod tablet or Ipad
Are these a item which the zero to 60 shop may stock and use a bulk buy purchase to help support this great channel
hey love your content i have the same digital cluster whenever i hold dtc button dsc wont turn off and that yellow triangle doest show up
DTC should still deactivate or activate regardless of the cluster. However could it be the cliuster is not seing the DTC signal on the canbus?
Looks quality i have a good feeling its good bit of kit
I think the hardware is really stout. Just need some interface tweaks.
I would be interested, but I would like to have an option for stock e90 look. My current cluster has an issue and needs replacing so this would be ideal but would like to have the option to retain the standard analog look
Привет, круиз контроль работает?
Actually living in germany makes the use of such quite a struggle. Normally im sucker for the analogue clusters gives me the feeling of a connection between the car and the eyes and actually i enjoy it when im not constantly looking on screen but just what natural light transfers to the eye.....this solution could be interesting for retrofits like the 8hp etc...However what id love to see in the market is like a screen(super flat) that you can mount on the oem claster where the gauges are, like with a hole in the middle and that can be connected to an android headup unit...so like you have the old Odometer but you could feed/stream to it things like the map service (google maps, tomtom or what ever)...would be best of both worlds for me...but probably never coming. Im always really surprised on how much they need in space for cooling purposes. But interesting to see another solution on the market. Question id have is, does Cruisecontrol work with this? What does the cars kilometercounter store in hindsight of faults because of this ?
So the cruise works, display speed and active etc. It also supports active cruise control although i dont have it. As for fault storage not sure as yet.
Would this work for a 325i bmw 2003?
What's the purpose of the little blue plug or turquoise color plug could you please explain
How and where do we order from?Will it work on a 2008 E90 335i?
I saw this the other day but was hesitant to go with it as it seemed really new and untested
I am the same, i will put it through its paces over the weekend.
Hi Andy the fitting seemed really easy? The id4 ones need you to cut the pipes that run across the back of the opening to fit it properly was there any cutting involved or did this just go straight in ? Thanks for the video
No, no cutting at all,
I'm posting this because my aliexpress seller is not helping me. Please make sure you order this from carlife mall. They have been kind enough to sort out my problems even though I never got it from them. Thanks carlife mall!
will this work with an e92 m3? like show the m mode lights and MDM etc?
Have you tried the cruise control if it works with this cluster? Mine gives me an error
Cruise works fine in this, you get a little display showing the set speed. There is a setting if you have radar cruise
@@ZeroTo60Tube it doesn’t seem to support the regular cruise control (without the radar), i think your bmw is equipped with Adaptive Option for cruise control. My cruise control is a regular one (where it just put the speed to whatever MPH you reach and turns off when you brake)
You need to do the update there’s an update file available to solve that problem
@@PistonPlayou peut on avoir la mise à jour merci
Has there been any problems related to unit ?
Hello and great video.
I was wondering if this cluster is doing the same thing with removing a lot of information like , error codes being displayed, and or service intervals being displayed?
There is a guy that specializes in bmw electronics, his latest video is about this issue, and he does a Frankenstein of a original cluster computer with a Chinese digital one so that it retains almost all functionality.
Give it a search, a perfectionist like you would surely benefit from the info
Video title: 6WA Extended cluster retrofit - M.Ovidiu
thx boss for the good view, expecting for the 2nd full view💯
Thanks for the awesome cluster. Just took the car for another drive tonight just for the sake of it and it’s really cool. I like it so much more than I thought I would.
I installed this on a 2016 F33..everything works but unfortunately the front collision warning and pedestrian warning systems stopped working.. :(
I wonder if this fits e82 chassis since it only shows E90’s. Idk if there’s a big difference in the cluster size.
You will need the e82 specific version. I think they list the e87 from memory.
Just reached out to them hopefully they will have something.
Hello, You do very enjoyable work. i have a 2001 e46, is there a digital screen in my car?
There is one made by id4motion. They are quite expensive compared to these.
Thank you👍🏻
I bought this based on your review and its great. One question, when i open my drivers side door, it shows as the left front door, assuming this is an LHD/RHD setting but cant find it... Have you come across this?
There is definitely a setting for that. But i can't remember where it is. Have you spoken to the seller?
So If i dont set the fuel tank capacity my E to F reading will be inaccurate?
Seems like a nice way to modernize the e9x dash. 👍
I wanted one to display additional info. This happens to do voltage and coolant temp which are 2 things that have played up on this car so thats nice. However no boost as yet.... That being said i am enjoying driving with it a lot more than i thought i would. It feels so damn cool when you start the car and get the loading animation.
Which BMW car it does fit in?and the price and the name and address how sale them?write down the name.thanks.
Cool. Bro something new God bless
The cluster looks awesome. I wonder if it will work accessing the jb4 menu
Good question
@@Hyngyynj They dont work :-( Just found out the hard way
Seems very responsive & smooth
I think I have another great question! If you install this and use it for a time and then reinstall the OEM cluster, will THAT be out of sync and throw up a tamper warning? Does it need to be updated in real time or will it sync itself once reinstalled? Last question I promise!
The OG cluster will simply re sync to the higher ks
I would most definitely buy this if it displays oil or coolant temp for my 335d M57tu2. Please let me know if they can confirm that
It displays oil and coolant temp. However on this 320d it doesn’t have a oil temp sensor (well it shows faulty in ista). So both show the same temp.
Can you change the kilometers to miles per hour?
do you have cruise control?
if it does the job, I will defo buy one. Does it show all relevant error messages? low coolant/windscreen wash etc Some of us have the SoS error coded out of the dash, will this bring it back?
I’ve only seen a few errors. Mainly door open and ignition on. But I will investigate for sure.
I want to test one 🙂 I’ll get this company a ton of buyers
I think the id4motion locks the VIN to the cluster so it cannot be installed in another vehicle. I take it this one doesn’t have that feature?
No this one definitely doesnt. It also re learns k's if you put it in a diff car. It reads the klms from the cas.
I want one. After I finish this motor build, I’m getting it lol wonder how long shipping takes. I got the eonon radio and it took forever
This from china to Aus, was 3 days.....
What about cruise control, have you tested how that appears on this cluster?
cruise control no problems, support
I don’t know if anyone has asked already but can you reset the oil and brake fluid and spark plugs and those things on there like you can with the stock one?
I think it looks really good in there too! I definitely want one haha!
Yes you can!
Sweet!!
thank god an alternative to ID4. The way they price the "useless" themes is basically robbery for zero added functionality. $600 is right at the sweet spot ($500 is a better sounding number). If these can run well I'd buy one. Would be nice to integrate multimedia/carplay into the dash because I want maps in my dash board BADLY.
CarLife Mall have experimented with song titles which are broadcast over the canbus. However they have ran in to a few issues with the feature. They said it may be back. There wont be any maps coming to it, unfortunately
@@ZeroTo60Tube Neat I will be following the development of these closely. The price is so good, I'm going to buy one the minute they get back in stock lol.
Can they do the oppersite and ditch the digital display on modern BMW for analogue dials ?
Haha, you sound like my old man
Ive had this installed in my e60 m5 for about two months. It works well but is missing the transmission shift setting indicator and option for checking oil level. Also needs an option to adjust the rpm redline and my oil temp shows in Celsius when set to Fahrenheit. Fault codes are displayed at the bottom of the screen..
Great to hear! How do you find the displaying keeping up with the s85 rpm’s?
@@ZeroTo60Tube no issues
Can I buy this for e82
Nice review, looks good, saw few of them on aliexpress but unless it has a feature where i can have waze or music integrated not worth the 800/900€ (as far as i remember) for now . Probably isn't that difficult to put android auto or apple car play on theses so we don't have to upgrade the nav system + the cluster like audi does.
I have a few questions : What about available languages ? Fronts were different on ones i saw one aliexpress, looking like resident evil's front. Are they changeable ?
That whole audi waze intergration is properly clever. Fonts are not changable. And there were a heap of languages, but i will go through properly in the full review.
@@ZeroTo60Tube can't wait to see it 👌
I'd like to know if you can access hidden OBD menu in this cluster.
You can not.
hmmm look No Any Anti glare who is very bad for a cluster...... do you know if is a version with a true anti glage ??
I don’t think this any different to a g80 cluster glare wise.
@@ZeroTo60Tube sorry but of course it is ! they have all all anti glare treatment ! how to drive when you cant see the cluster ? all have. those chineese they do the same with androuid unit most of them they are without antiglare. for this price they can put that minimu. any way is good to see you make an review but please talk about this to warn people and those chineese compagnies to maybe with your videos they will decide to put an anti glare treatment :)
Does it still retain the original warning chime? I noticed with the id4 motion it uses some generic chime
id4motion is mad as hell now lmao i told them 2 years to lower the prices on there version of this there was "why should we" but back then they were only ones had these and now look what we have haha,
Did you have to cut the AC duct for the cluster to fit?
Not at all. No cutting. Just put the screen in the dash first. Then clip the front piece to the screen and screw it in.
All of us: eagerly waiting for an updated review. 😅
I have been driving with it for the last 4 days. Basically trying to find issues. Follow up video will be out soon.
How do these things handle error codes etc? Is this just a new device with the original software somehow worked into it? I am always wondering with these devices.
Bizarrely I haven’t seen many errors. Yet. However ignition on warning, displays different but the warning worked. So I think they have linked it to display like the oem. I’ll find out if I can trigger some more somehow
@@ZeroTo60Tube yes would be very interesting. I guess they can read the can data to make the gauges work. But how is the bmw specific error memory handled, that would be interesting to see for me personally. Still cool device.
Yes finally I love the Chinese I’m buy this soon😊
Could you please check if the car is able to do its emission monitors testing? ID4Motion's cluster makes my car's sensors stuck on "not ready" and they suggested I remove the screen, go through all the process to pass inspection, then reinstall it...
Ummmm what’s the best way I can check that with a diesel? We don’t do those emissions checks here tbh. I remember seeing them in mhd somewhere.
@@ZeroTo60Tube with an obd reader and the torque app has a sensor readiness feature.
You can also use a K+dcan cable and use a deep obd reader app to see error codes that are normally invisible to regular obd readers... The id4motion one throws an error with the Kombi module, for example.
and does it interfere with the mileage readout in anyway? I recall last time you swapped in an OEM cluster you had a tamper warning to get around. thanks!
Will this work with smooth dash or do you need some sort of Idrive?
Works with all models.
Let's get it!!!
For the 8hp swapped cars, can it display 7 and 8th gear?
It should. The software was originally made for f series and then ported to e series.
Hi Andrew, are you still selling the RHD modded outlet?
No unfortunately. To make them worth doing they needed to be $380 and it’s a lot of money. And even at $380 it didn’t really cover the time it took organise getting them made and then posting out. I did the first batch and left it at that as a failed exercise.
How do you reset odo
there is a menu you can access to reset it on these clusters
seems really responsive, the ID4 one always looked bit laggy to me from other videos ive seen.
How is the glare though in direct sunlight?
It’s not bad. Not perfect, but you don’t notice it for daily driving.
That’s awesome! Love how it uses the whole screen area unlike the ID4 motion cluster.
Do you think you would still be able to use the JB4 menu’s with the tacho since the screens swapped?
Analog looking skins would be amazing, like the E9x M3 or M2 comp…
Awesome work!!
JB4 should still work, no worries at all. However i havent tested it yet. Im hoping more skins and firmware will become available. Which is normally the case with this type of product.
@@ZeroTo60Tube your a legend! Thanks for the reply!!!
I’m glad I’ve found your channel, I have a fully built n55 that is currently being reinstalled back into the my RHD e93 (Sydney based), a few months back I reached out to Adam from JMC tuning and he’s willing to help me out with a big single. I’ll have to reach out to him again…
Only differences I believe is the water coolant feed to the block and manifold flange but all else should be sweet. Can’t wait until we see more of your big single beast! Hope more vids to come soon.
Keep up the great work and I look forward to what else you bring to the e9x platform.
@@shoeikid Adams kits are the bomb. he is a zeroto60 g member so i talk to him a fair bit. can't recomend his stuff enough
the software, is it really opensource ?
No, it’s not. I was expecting it to be by now. But the manufacturers have kept it locked down
Is there a face with analog style gauges?
Not yet. And tbh i dont think there will be. The display fills the whole, so the screen shape doesnt really suit round dials. Much like the G series. Someone may make one in the fututre, but we will see.
Does it have a programmable shift light?
Not at the moment.
Interesting that they didn't do one for the E89 Z4. :/
I guess on interest they may look at them.
I did whole English review and working on my UA-cam channel when it came new
Awesome! I haven’t seen it tho.