As an MJ fan during the three peats the belief was that if the games were close then the Bulls would win because they had Jordan and the other team didn't. Well guess what...the games were almost always close. Execution under pressure is why Jordan is the goat not because he had a superteam. The Bulls almost never beat themselves.
Thanks my man, I will keep going, I appreciate that. I shouted you out in yesterday's video, I wanted to know what you thought about Jokic, Luka, SGA & Anthony Edwards playing a combined 15 all star games & never attempting a free throw in their All Star game careers. That is insane to me. In Kobes last 4 All Star games, he shot 20 free throws. I didn't know if you knew this because it blew my mind. That just shows how unwatchable and what a joke the NBA has become
I’m actually intrigued to watch this years game for the simple fact THEY MIGHT try hard after so much backlash leading up to the game. If they don’t the event should be ended.
Yeah we'll see, they were under scrutiny last year and it was the worst one ever. Maybe changing the format may do something but the salaries, load managing & overall catering to these divas has maybe forever changed the game. I feel bad for some of the players who actually are humble and do try hard but are unfortunately lumped in with the rest of these divas. We'll see if they actual defend to commit a foul or the refs have the balls to blow the whistle
what i find hilarious about the "played against plumbers" narrative is that I would be way more terrified playing a tradesman than a fashion designer or livestreamer.
LOL, exactly these ego driven divas would crap their pants if they were being checked by Alvin Robertson, Mookie Blaylock or Alonzo Mourning. Real men playing real basketball
Average height of an NBA player has always been around 6’7”… so what kind of plumber is 6’7”????? Like a 6’7” guy can’t even fit under your sink to begin with!
@@Str8fromny92you’re right. It’s crazy hearing all of narratives about something that you actually seen from people who didn’t even watch it themselves
@@Lanetta402Those Same People Are Also Young And Dumb Fans Trying To Lecture People Like Us 🤣. But See How The Narratives Are Focused On The 90’s And Not On This Current Era. Propaganda Projecting Away From The Real True “Watered Down” Era
All you guys are right on the money. A team has 5 HOF’ers and the other team has 1, in a tie game with :30 to go, do you think that information is going to make any difference in the outcome of the game? Exactly. Stupid narratives from stupid people
@@Str8fromny92they not gonna allow our voices to go mainstream think about the people who defend Jordan on TV all they say is 5 MVPs an 6-0 in the finals there's so much more to say an present that these networks never touch on. Jordan won MVP 10 seasons apart, all defensive 1st team 10 seasons apart, scoring title 11 seasons apart. Nobody else has done this in NBA History an you will never hear this on Fox Sports or ESPN. An I learned that on this channel 😤💯👏🏾👍🏾
I’m 44 from Chicago. I remember the supporting cast shooting 20% against the Pistons. It was the first time my parents let me spend the night at friend’s house. I cried after the game. From that moment to high school the Bulls had everyone else crying.
Nobody could beat the Pistons in those 2 years, Detroit was 22-2 vs the 6 rounds that weren't the Bulls but 8-5 vs the Bulls. To me, this proves that the Bulls were the 2nd best team in the NBA in those years
To just add to this. My team before they were sold to Oklahoma was the Sonics...and if Rodman didn't ball out, George Karl let the Glove play D, and/or they fed Kemp more I really believe they win. Sonics in 96 are so slept on cause they lost and were down 3-0, but that team was so damn good. Only reason Jordan's competition appears weak is because they never beat him and the Suns, Sonics, Jazz, and Blazers all has a chance against that Bulls dynasty. Imagine how good any one of them seems beating Jordan. Now remember none did.
Sonics were really good and the Bulls offense was putrid in that series. The Lakers in 1991 had a real chance. That shot Jordan made over Divac was the play that turned the series. John Paxson came up so big in those 3 games in LA
@NBAFactsSelfResearched I agree also that Suns series was so damn close. Really all those series were pretty good in retrospect. I do have to say after watching your breakdown of the Lakers Bulls I always thought it was weak, but turns out it was not weak, but it may have been the worst best team they played
Do you think who has more HOFers or All Stars matters in the last minute of the game? 1995 Jordan made 2 bad plays at the end of Game 1. I never used the "he's rusty" excuse. He actually played well in the series as a whole. Pippen did NOT. The Bulls just couldn't handle Shaq & Horace Grant. That was the difference
@@NBAFactsSelfResearched Rodman was a big difference maker vs Shaq next year but also team had more time to play together and get to know each other better. Anyway when it's close ppl usually naturally give it to best player and live with it, Jordan came up clutch more times than not and sometimes other players would be clutch too. It's hard to predict these things, but thats the beauty of competition.
fans of today's game dont understand what the word competition means relative to basketball, if they can only go by what they see today or what they have seen in the past decade, you almost can't blame them for not knowing the difference, but they should be respectful enough to not assume that they do either, that's why it's important for those of us that actually did see the game in a competitive setting to share come at least try to share what we witnessed! And you are one of the best at doing that! Thank you! I seriously get like a sense of pride when I watch you go on some of your rants, they're hilarious, but their 100% accurate as well!
Man I sure do appreciate that. I like that this is a small channel and the subscribers are basically just like me. The same age range and share most of my opinions. This is OUR little channel. And I do get very defensive when trolls come in here, it's like damn can't we just have this little outlet and be left alone? This is for real NBA fans who remember a much better game and don't want it trashed by imbeciles with an agenda. I appreciate your support very much
Me as well. All I do is battle against these false narratives from the stupid media who only spread negative information about the era that I love. There will be fools in the comments who will say something stupid, you watch
On the one hand they say the 90's Bulls were a super team but on the other hand they only won because, they played in a weak watered down era. They contradict themselves, they can't stay consistent with their narrative. I remember watching a segment on ESPN after the Golden State Warriors went 16-1 in the playoffs and won the championship in 2017. These guys on ESPN were debating if the 2017 Warriors could beat the 1996 Bulls in a series. They all said yes the 2017 Warriors would beat the 96 Bulls. And one of those guys can't remember his name said not only could the 2017 Warriors beat the 96 Bulls but there would be several teams in this modern era that would beat the 96 Bulls in a series because of the rules changes and the different style of play in the modern era. The 96 Bulls couldn't keep up with the modern style of play he said. He made it seem like the 96 Bulls would be average at best in this modern era. I can't remember the name of the guy who said that but he is someone whose analysis I would not rely on. But then some will say the 90's Bulls were a super team. Which is it?
They were hard fought games and series, as much as people want to believe otherwise. 1996 was probably their easiest run although Seattle did at least make it interesting pushing it to 6. But those who think the Bulls just had their way in the 1991 Finals is mistaken
Hey I have a question, Skap attack said he's in contact with Jason Whitlock would you be up to getting with Skap so you can potentially get a feature on Whitlock show? I agree with the guy in the comment section the things you present needs to be put out because people really believe 6-0 is our only argument an it's not.
I have only spoken to Skap once. Now I am in contact with some of the guys on the Sunday Live that Michaeljordanfansarethebest channel hosts. But sure I would love to drop reality bombs on people but I'm still too small time for those guys regardless of the content I make. But I appreciate your words and support, thank you
Do you need any help for free? If it becomes regular maybe that changes, but I have some time from my job to research, some ideas for videos, some mathematical background, and just feel your style in hitting point after point after point to add to combat these modern narratives.
Thanks for offering. I will let you know. I just may need some help. Video editing and graphics is what I really need. I have only begun to look into it
@@NBAFactsSelfResearched I cannot do graphics, but help with editing is fine. To be honest I think your whiteboard is the approach that best suits you. If you do some takes with one white board, then transition to a new whiteboard to emphasize points, and to give a more in depth take, well I feel that just refines what you bring. It's like a teacher but you can edit in the finer details, the only thing needed would be to fill out a new board, and some minor post work.
You picked out 9 games. The league was objectively spread thin due to expansion. Even the Jazz teams the Jordan faced in the finals wasn't more talented than it was 6 years before. Biggest reason for the Bulls success is that they managed to get more talented after the expansion, unlike other teams. Jordan's tenure added 6 new teams, which is a lot in a short amount of time. Krause has to get respect for somehow continuing to make the team more talented despite a lessened pool of players.
LOL, 9 games? Let's see: 1991 Finals Games 1, 3 & 5 1992 ECSF Game 7 1992 ECF Game 6 1992 Finals Game 6 1993 ECF Game 5 1993 Finals Game 6 1995 ECSF Games 1 & 6 1997 ECF Games 1, 2 & 5 1997 Finals Games 1, 2, 5 & 6 1998 ECF Games 4 & 7 1998 Finals Games 1, 2, 5 & 6 That's actually 23 games, but it isn't the amount of Games, it's how critical they were and they were tight and could go either way. You dudes with these narratives, you think Jordan told Horace Grant "come on man, these guys are watered down, we'll pull this out, the expansion draft took their 9th best player, they're not who they used to be" Or Phil Jackson, " you guys are All-NBA, they don't have any All-Defensive players over there so we got this easy" Utah was more talented in the early 90s? Maybe but they didn't know how to win yet. The way they destroyed the teams that would win the next 5 championships was very impressive and the Bulls needed a sequence of plays to win in 1998. So many plays they HAD to make. You guys act like they won every game by double digits and swept every series because of this "super team". 3 guys on their entire 1998 roster ever made All Star or all league in their entire careers. But 37 year old Rodman made them a super team right? Then the 1999 Lakers were a super team with Shaq, Kobe, Glen Rice and Rodman. You ever heard that in your life? Exactly. Stop listening to the media, they are rotting your brain
If u not carrying travelin take advantage of rules that cater to offensive spacing when a commissoner tell u they want to showcase offense in the mid 2000 also during that time and run rucker park was being highlighted shown stephon marbury a.i kobe host of player was participatin in tournaments david stern allow skip to my lou to be drafted playin style
@NBAFactsSelfResearched that the point i was gettin at david stern late great compare to this commissioner was hard on the 96 draft coming from urban area street ballers he was use to 80 early 90 corporate dress clean image of the goat. he was out of touch after shaq was ushering in the hip hop disney orlando culture.see there was a series of events what change too this trash two uncommon sense broke it down they lost alot of money ratin 93 98 when the bulls last three peat do a live on that t.v ratin rules changes from 79 90 flagrant foul 98 2002 2004 05.politics of bringing euro china invasion yao ming
As an MJ fan during the three peats the belief was that if the games were close then the Bulls would win because they had Jordan and the other team didn't. Well guess what...the games were almost always close. Execution under pressure is why Jordan is the goat not because he had a superteam. The Bulls almost never beat themselves.
If Jordan was a lesser player (not as clutch) they lose 88 vs Cavs, 89 vs Cavs, 89 vs Knicks … etc etc. congrats on the new chair keep going
Thanks my man, I will keep going, I appreciate that. I shouted you out in yesterday's video, I wanted to know what you thought about Jokic, Luka, SGA & Anthony Edwards playing a combined 15 all star games & never attempting a free throw in their All Star game careers. That is insane to me. In Kobes last 4 All Star games, he shot 20 free throws. I didn't know if you knew this because it blew my mind. That just shows how unwatchable and what a joke the NBA has become
I’m actually intrigued to watch this years game for the simple fact THEY MIGHT try hard after so much backlash leading up to the game. If they don’t the event should be ended.
Yeah we'll see, they were under scrutiny last year and it was the worst one ever. Maybe changing the format may do something but the salaries, load managing & overall catering to these divas has maybe forever changed the game. I feel bad for some of the players who actually are humble and do try hard but are unfortunately lumped in with the rest of these divas. We'll see if they actual defend to commit a foul or the refs have the balls to blow the whistle
what i find hilarious about the "played against plumbers" narrative is that I would be way more terrified playing a tradesman than a fashion designer or livestreamer.
LOL, exactly these ego driven divas would crap their pants if they were being checked by Alvin Robertson, Mookie Blaylock or Alonzo Mourning. Real men playing real basketball
Average height of an NBA player has always been around 6’7”… so what kind of plumber is 6’7”?????
Like a 6’7” guy can’t even fit under your sink to begin with!
Good Job man, I had almost forgotten why bball was played. I turn 40 in a few months
Thanks my man, so you should remember most of those games, maybe not early 90s but mid 90s on
Well I’m 44 and from Chicago so I was able to catch all the games and the championships and yes they were battling it was not just a cakewalk
We Need More People Like You To Speak Up. The Narratives That Are Pushed Is Diabolical.
@@Str8fromny92you’re right. It’s crazy hearing all of narratives about something that you actually seen from people who didn’t even watch it themselves
@@Lanetta402Those Same People Are Also Young And Dumb Fans Trying To Lecture People Like Us 🤣. But See How The Narratives Are Focused On The 90’s And Not On This Current Era. Propaganda Projecting Away From The Real True “Watered Down” Era
All you guys are right on the money. A team has 5 HOF’ers and the other team has 1, in a tie game with :30 to go, do you think that information is going to make any difference in the outcome of the game? Exactly. Stupid narratives from stupid people
@@Str8fromny92they not gonna allow our voices to go mainstream think about the people who defend Jordan on TV all they say is 5 MVPs an 6-0 in the finals there's so much more to say an present that these networks never touch on. Jordan won MVP 10 seasons apart, all defensive 1st team 10 seasons apart, scoring title 11 seasons apart. Nobody else has done this in NBA History an you will never hear this on Fox Sports or ESPN. An I learned that on this channel 😤💯👏🏾👍🏾
I’m 44 from Chicago. I remember the supporting cast shooting 20% against the Pistons. It was the first time my parents let me spend the night at friend’s house. I cried after the game. From that moment to high school the Bulls had everyone else crying.
Nobody could beat the Pistons in those 2 years, Detroit was 22-2 vs the 6 rounds that weren't the Bulls but 8-5 vs the Bulls. To me, this proves that the Bulls were the 2nd best team in the NBA in those years
To just add to this. My team before they were sold to Oklahoma was the Sonics...and if Rodman didn't ball out, George Karl let the Glove play D, and/or they fed Kemp more I really believe they win. Sonics in 96 are so slept on cause they lost and were down 3-0, but that team was so damn good. Only reason Jordan's competition appears weak is because they never beat him and the Suns, Sonics, Jazz, and Blazers all has a chance against that Bulls dynasty. Imagine how good any one of them seems beating Jordan. Now remember none did.
Sonics were really good and the Bulls offense was putrid in that series. The Lakers in 1991 had a real chance. That shot Jordan made over Divac was the play that turned the series. John Paxson came up so big in those 3 games in LA
@NBAFactsSelfResearched I agree also that Suns series was so damn close. Really all those series were pretty good in retrospect. I do have to say after watching your breakdown of the Lakers Bulls I always thought it was weak, but turns out it was not weak, but it may have been the worst best team they played
Yea, when you watch the replays games are close and competitive with crowd going wild on both sides. So you forget who's going to win lol.
Do you think who has more HOFers or All Stars matters in the last minute of the game?
1995 Jordan made 2 bad plays at the end of Game 1. I never used the "he's rusty" excuse. He actually played well in the series as a whole. Pippen did NOT. The Bulls just couldn't handle Shaq & Horace Grant. That was the difference
@@NBAFactsSelfResearched Rodman was a big difference maker vs Shaq next year but also team had more time to play together and get to know each other better. Anyway when it's close ppl usually naturally give it to best player and live with it, Jordan came up clutch more times than not and sometimes other players would be clutch too. It's hard to predict these things, but thats the beauty of competition.
fans of today's game dont understand what the word competition means relative to basketball, if they can only go by what they see today or what they have seen in the past decade, you almost can't blame them for not knowing the difference, but they should be respectful enough to not assume that they do either, that's why it's important for those of us that actually did see the game in a competitive setting to share come at least try to share what we witnessed! And you are one of the best at doing that! Thank you! I seriously get like a sense of pride when I watch you go on some of your rants, they're hilarious, but their 100% accurate as well!
Man I sure do appreciate that. I like that this is a small channel and the subscribers are basically just like me. The same age range and share most of my opinions. This is OUR little channel. And I do get very defensive when trolls come in here, it's like damn can't we just have this little outlet and be left alone? This is for real NBA fans who remember a much better game and don't want it trashed by imbeciles with an agenda. I appreciate your support very much
Awesome video. I'm sick of all the false narratives on Jordan, Russell, Magic, Bird and the other all time greats
Me as well. All I do is battle against these false narratives from the stupid media who only spread negative information about the era that I love. There will be fools in the comments who will say something stupid, you watch
@NBAFactsSelfResearched I found one. More overexpansion/watered down era BS.
On the one hand they say the 90's Bulls were a super team but on the other hand they only won because, they played in a weak watered down era. They contradict themselves, they can't stay consistent with their narrative.
I remember watching a segment on ESPN after the Golden State Warriors went 16-1 in the playoffs and won the championship in 2017. These guys on ESPN were debating if the 2017 Warriors could beat the 1996 Bulls in a series. They all said yes the 2017 Warriors would beat the 96 Bulls. And one of those guys can't remember his name said not only could the 2017 Warriors beat the 96 Bulls but there would be several teams in this modern era that would beat the 96 Bulls in a series because of the rules changes and the different style of play in the modern era. The 96 Bulls couldn't keep up with the modern style of play he said. He made it seem like the 96 Bulls would be average at best in this modern era. I can't remember the name of the guy who said that but he is someone whose analysis I would not rely on.
But then some will say the 90's Bulls were a super team. Which is it?
The Bulls used great defense and the triangle to run the shot clock down tighten the games up and close them out late those teams were grinders
They were hard fought games and series, as much as people want to believe otherwise. 1996 was probably their easiest run although Seattle did at least make it interesting pushing it to 6. But those who think the Bulls just had their way in the 1991 Finals is mistaken
They ended the 80s teams in 1991
Great content brother
93 ecf game 5 last sequence
Grant block
Jordan strip
Pippen block
Pippen block
Thanks my man, that was maybe the best team defensive sequence of a playoff game that I have ever seen
It was close games because teams played physical defense, fighting for rebounds no NBA player wants to lose.
Hey I have a question, Skap attack said he's in contact with Jason Whitlock would you be up to getting with Skap so you can potentially get a feature on Whitlock show? I agree with the guy in the comment section the things you present needs to be put out because people really believe 6-0 is our only argument an it's not.
I have only spoken to Skap once. Now I am in contact with some of the guys on the Sunday Live that Michaeljordanfansarethebest channel hosts. But sure I would love to drop reality bombs on people but I'm still too small time for those guys regardless of the content I make. But I appreciate your words and support, thank you
Do you need any help for free? If it becomes regular maybe that changes, but I have some time from my job to research, some ideas for videos, some mathematical background, and just feel your style in hitting point after point after point to add to combat these modern narratives.
Thanks for offering. I will let you know. I just may need some help. Video editing and graphics is what I really need. I have only begun to look into it
@@NBAFactsSelfResearched I cannot do graphics, but help with editing is fine. To be honest I think your whiteboard is the approach that best suits you. If you do some takes with one white board, then transition to a new whiteboard to emphasize points, and to give a more in depth take, well I feel that just refines what you bring. It's like a teacher but you can edit in the finer details, the only thing needed would be to fill out a new board, and some minor post work.
You picked out 9 games. The league was objectively spread thin due to expansion. Even the Jazz teams the Jordan faced in the finals wasn't more talented than it was 6 years before.
Biggest reason for the Bulls success is that they managed to get more talented after the expansion, unlike other teams. Jordan's tenure added 6 new teams, which is a lot in a short amount of time. Krause has to get respect for somehow continuing to make the team more talented despite a lessened pool of players.
LOL, 9 games?
Let's see:
1991 Finals Games 1, 3 & 5
1992 ECSF Game 7
1992 ECF Game 6
1992 Finals Game 6
1993 ECF Game 5
1993 Finals Game 6
1995 ECSF Games 1 & 6
1997 ECF Games 1, 2 & 5
1997 Finals Games 1, 2, 5 & 6
1998 ECF Games 4 & 7
1998 Finals Games 1, 2, 5 & 6
That's actually 23 games, but it isn't the amount of Games, it's how critical they were and they were tight and could go either way.
You dudes with these narratives, you think Jordan told Horace Grant "come on man, these guys are watered down, we'll pull this out, the expansion draft took their 9th best player, they're not who they used to be"
Or Phil Jackson, " you guys are All-NBA, they don't have any All-Defensive players over there so we got this easy"
Utah was more talented in the early 90s? Maybe but they didn't know how to win yet. The way they destroyed the teams that would win the next 5 championships was very impressive and the Bulls needed a sequence of plays to win in 1998. So many plays they HAD to make. You guys act like they won every game by double digits and swept every series because of this "super team". 3 guys on their entire 1998 roster ever made All Star or all league in their entire careers. But 37 year old Rodman made them a super team right? Then the 1999 Lakers were a super team with Shaq, Kobe, Glen Rice and Rodman. You ever heard that in your life? Exactly. Stop listening to the media, they are rotting your brain
If u not carrying travelin take advantage of rules that cater to offensive spacing when a commissoner tell u they want to showcase offense in the mid 2000 also during that time and run rucker park was being highlighted shown stephon marbury a.i kobe host of player was participatin in tournaments david stern allow skip to my lou to be drafted playin style
Its basically And1 basketball out there. What we saw as a gimmick 15 years ago ended up being the actual product now. Unwatchable trash
@NBAFactsSelfResearched that the point i was gettin at david stern late great compare to this commissioner was hard on the 96 draft coming from urban area street ballers he was use to 80 early 90 corporate dress clean image of the goat. he was out of touch after shaq was ushering in the hip hop disney orlando culture.see there was a series of events what change too this trash two uncommon sense broke it down they lost alot of money ratin 93 98 when the bulls last three peat do a live on that t.v ratin rules changes from 79 90 flagrant foul 98 2002 2004 05.politics of bringing euro china invasion yao ming