I got faster internet for only $50 from AT&T Gigabit Fiber using an SFP+ module installation
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- A user, Cats, informed me of a SFP+ Module that would work with the Ubiquiti UDM Pro. This module allows for 1G, 2.5G, 5G, and 10G modes. So by connecting my UDM Pro to the 5Gb Ethernet port on the BGW 320, I was able to overprovision my network and get more bandwidth from my ISP.
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Hey that's me! Glad it worked out, I've seen a few comments that mention Comcast - yes, it does work with them as well as long as you have a modem capable of doing a 2.5Gb link. I use a similar Flyprofiber one (I provided two options) and it works just the same. UDM Pro, Cheap ConnectX-2 card, etc, all work just fine.
Um hey ccat what your discord?
If you had 5GB/5GB, then you are on their new XGS Fiber Network... This means you can bypass the White AT&T Gateway altogether. You'll need a WAS-110 SFP+ ONT Module, and the programing takes only a few minutes. It continues to work after power outages, restarts, etc. It allows you to plug the Fiber Directly to your Unifi System. I am using it myself, and its impressive that the speeds are so much better without AT&Ts equipment. Highly Recommended!
How much faster?
An AT&T technician told me this morning that they always provide speeds faster than what you purchased by quite a decent margin sometimes up to 20%, and the only reason it slows down to the speed you paid for or lower is because of copper wiring
That’s partially true probably in most circumstances
I heard this was only for cable providers, but I hope you're right, and they enforce it.
I consistently get 1.1 g download speeds with nothing more than the AT&T fiber modem. But I am running Cat6 throughout the house with cat6a Supply in the switch
@@jhamm4266yeah… cat5e can actually support 10 gigabit in short cable runs.
So it’s not the cable.
FCC ruled internet providers cannot force us to use their equipment so att needs to come off these restrictions
lol like the FCC will ever do anything
So what speeds do you get if you drop in your WRT-54G/GL off your wall and overclock it?🤓😎🤦♂️🤣
At least 900mhz
It's not really "over provisioning" , most providers will set your bootfile bandwidth to a speed higher than what you are paying for to account for overhead, etc... and this is common in shared residential or business class areas for ISPs.
Oh nice. I had no idea about the boot file thing. Pretty sure the shared bandwidth with the neighbors is what’s preventing me from hitting true 5Gbps
@Bimbomss/TCP/TFTP/
Fun fact from the Internets... Flip the cable around for faster downloads and slower uploads instead 🤦♂️🤣
And wrap the fiber with electric tape, so the photons can not leak anymore!
No way
What were you getting prior to the switch though? I get over 1gig without the need for the module without issues.
Frontier (x-verizon) always gave me 10-20% more bandwidth - My guess it's to make up for their crappy routers (Actiontech, Greenwave) so that the customers 'see' the full speed during tests before they call support and complain (eg you get only 480 instead of 500) ... because on their side (Terabit Nokia/Lucent Alcatel/Ciena routers) they are able to control the speeds very well
I'm sure this is an old enough video that you won't even see this question, but I'll give it a go. My home internet needs are relatively simple but I would still love to do this to have better access to what I'm paying for (the same 1gig Att you are talking about in the video) would I be able to do this same thing but using a WiFi router with an spf+ port like the TP-Link Tri-Band BE19000 WiFi 7 Router (Archer BE800)?
Is your AT&T router in "IP Pass-through" mode? My AT&T router appears to throttle me to 100 Mbps in Pass-through to my pfSense firewall. If I double NAT (which isn't ideal) I can get the full speed I'm paying for.
Yup I have it in Passthrough mode to avoid double NAT. Never seen additional latency from double NAT
Hey SPXLabs I have a similar setup to yours [Unifi UDM Pro SE / ATT BGW-320 Gateway) Do I purchase the Wiitek SFP+ to RJ45 Copper Module for Cisco [shown in your video] or the Ubiquiti one?
If a Ubiquiti one is available now then I would spring for that one. But it shouldn’t really make a difference.
@@SPXLabs I will let you know how it works out. Thanks!
@@SPXLabs okay it’s up and running. At first the network connection was dropped but I believe it’s because I had the 5Gbps and 1Gbps connected simultaneously. (Duh)
I have AT&T fiber 1Gbps service and with the UDMPro-SE connection to 5Gbps port getting DL:901Mbps / UL:1.1Gbps.
I did enable Pass-thru on the BGW-320 Getaway, so far so good. Thanks!
Is that average? Or just from one run?
@@SPXLabs I did a couple of runs. I will try it directly from the UDM-Pro network ports and see if it changes. My run is going from my garage back to the upstairs office.
I forgot to mention my office PC is connect to USW-150 then that routes back to my 48 port switch in the Garage.
I think I’m going to invest in an 10G aggregation switch!
Are you in the U.S.A because I can’t get 5 gigs from Verizon Fios the most I get is 400 down and 987 up with the gigabit connection
I am in the US but I unfortunately wouldn’t know how to help you aside from calling and complaining to Verizon
I got ATT finally installed last month, and was going to get the WAS-110, but after I’m getting 1.2-1.3G to my 2.5Gb desktops using the BGW320. It doesn’t seem to need this at all.
That’s great!
Hi, I have att fiber 1gb and bgw320-500 modem. I want to buy the Cisco device you have linked. But, I am not sure if it is the correct one for the modem or, if you have some other equipment that you have swapped the Cisco device. Can you clarify.
I’m not using Cisco, I am using this. amzn.to/3IutVMg
Can I just buy the BGW320 off of eBay and replace my old Motorola BGW210-700? I assume I would have to call AT&T to have them provision it? But would they do that for me? I tried to "chat" with support and they don't offer "upgrades" to gateways :(
I wouldn’t risk it. AT&T can be very disjointed and it wouldn’t be worth the time. Calling them is probably more effective, maybe even complaining about the WiFi being too slow for your WiFi 6 capable devices could help you get the upgrade.
I already had all the equipment and even the exact sfp but I stopped using it because my uploads where bad it never occurred to me to restart my UDM Pro. I'm so mad now as I have been having it sit for almost a year feeling it was a waste of money. Doing some Testing now..
Ouch. Surprised none of the UDM updates didn’t fix it for you
Im paying for 1gig from ATT but can never pass about 350 mbps on any of my devices. Is that something on their end that they need to switch or something in the settings on the router they provided to me?
It could be a bad cable, if over WiFi it could be a poor connection or too many competing signals nearby, it could be a bad fiber line, if at an apartment it could be too many people using the internet at the same time. There are too many variable to work out and doing that via UA-cam comments is troublesome.
Mine used to be over provisioned, after rebooting recently I noticed they limited it back down to 1000. Maybe they only 'fixed' it in certain markets.
Um not sure. Mine still works as seen in the video
i have a 2.5gbps switch and a 2.5gbps nic card but my mesh router only supports 1gbps :( and the mesh routers that support 2.5gbps are more expensibe :(
I just upgraded to the Dream Machine Pro at home. Used the SFP+ to ethernet adapter and connected to the Frontier Fiber 10g port on the modem. I noticed the same thing. Download was capped at 950mbps but 1.2gbps on the upload. Kinda wish it was the other way around.
At this point in my life I’m just thankful that internet is finally symmetrical and gone are the days are 500 down and 10 up
I still have the old BGW 210 but AT&T wont change my modem to the BGW320... I've tried to get ATT to bring me the new modem but they're not budging... I wish we could just take their direct fiber line into the UDM Pro...
You can!
Doesnt this work on fios as well?
I'm stuck with Cox and StarLink🤷♂️
Att Gateway 5gb port, cat 6 to this SFP module into the UDMPro SFP port? Will my network see 5gb speeds? I have cat 6 throughout house.
Only if you have a switch or WiFi that supports 5Gb Internet. Otherwise no.
Looks like AT&T caught on capped at 950 on download since latest firmware update on BGW320. But upload is still 1200. So now getting 950/1200
What no way!! I have to look into that
I have att 500 speed, I have the bg210 router..set in pass throughput mode with 3 eero6 routers hardwired in my home.how could I incorporate this and which transceiver would I need? Thanks in advance.
I think you’d be better off asking to upgrade to the bgw300 instead of spending any money for marginal gains
Yes, but the bgw 300 would still be in pass through mode since I have all 3 eero6 routers hardwired around my home. Would I still benefit from this module if upgrading my router. It still have it in pass through mode
I don’t think it would be worth spending any money for the chance at getting more bandwidth. 500Mbps is already pretty amazing. Ive downgrading to 300Mbps.
But to answer you, I have no idea what you would need for Eero and you would have to buy yet another router or device with SFP+ and that just doesn’t make sense
I gotcha thanks!!when I do my wired internet test in the eero app I’m getting 618 down and 621 up. I pay for 500 speed
I am on 500/500 fiber plan is it worth getting the one GB? I always get 1GB upload speed for some reason tho but download is only 610MB.
Erm if you have like 4 people living at home it might be worth it but even then it’s still a bit overkill. Being on fiber is more beneficial for latency purposes than the actual speeds. I’m really close to downgrading to 500 or less.
My "500/500" plan is actually 630/630... 🤷 Not that I'm complaining!
I am curious if you know how to bypass the att modem and use orbi instead with the art provided fiber optic wire? I’ve been trying to find a sfb transceiver that will plug into a converter I bought. Trying to plug the converter into my router with Ethernet. And connect the incoming fiber optic to the converter. Desperate for some help!!
I dont
Are you authenticating to UDM? I've seen reports that PPPoE authentication in UDM it slows down
I am not. It’s not possible with my setup because I do not have an ONT. Or rather the ONT is built into the gateway
@@SPXLabs So then, if it were in the UDM, I certainly wouldn't get this speed.
I'm suffering from this via PPPoE 😅
I cannot confirm or deny that information because I simply do not know. I can say, that with IPS/IDS on the UDMP will hit 4.5Gbps on the sfp+ port with ATTs 5G plan.
Are you using a CAT 6 cable to the UDM pro?
Cat6a yea
@@SPXLabs I appreciate you getting back to me. I just ordered AT&T fiber.
I think there's some misunderstanding of the provision. You the end user can't overprovision anything THEY control it all. You the end user are just increasing YOUR bandwidth or capacity allowing you to maximize your connection. A device will NEVER reach full bandwidth it's rated for, 1Gb maxes at about 940Mb. But if you put a 10Gb in you can reach 9000Mb so you can potentially max out your 1Gb, 2.5Gb or 5Gb connection
Yeah I just don’t know what else to call it. Others that have done what I did used the word too. As you clearly noticed I’m not a network expert so if you have better terminology lay it on me please
@@SPXLabs It's just maximizing throughput or your internet. Maximizing internet capacity. Or enabling use of the overprovisioning, that may or may not be there. I'm sure others don't have a clue and describe it wrong...but doesn't make them right or accurate.
Right on. Glad I didn’t title the video overprovision like I originally planned lol.
What's the model of the PON sfp transceiver?
Not sue link in video description
What if you take there sfp and put it directly into you router and not use there's?
You need the AT&T certificate to authenticate.
Do you have a 2.5 gigabit ethernet on your motherboard that you can plug into the 5 gigabit port on the AT&T bgw320 Gateway and see if you can get higher than 1 gigabit
I have 10GbE. In the video we go above 1.
@@SPXLabs what if you tried to plug the Gateway directly into your desktop and bypass your equipment are you still able to get 1.2 Gigabit over-provisioning
It would work yes. Everything just needs to be compatible
Is there something you configured because my AT&T IP pass through isn’t working?
Nope. Aside from a reboot on the UDM, I showed y’all everything I did.
People tell me all the time IP Passthrough doesn’t work for them, I honestly have no idea why because it works absolutely fine for me.
@@SPXLabs Got it. I only see a local IP address from AT&T fiber and not the public address from AT&T Fiber.
Idk if you have seen it but I made a video showing my BGW320 ip Passthrough settings and those settings just work. I’ve heard a reboot usually forces the settings to take.
@@SPXLabs I have restarted my modem and my UDM Pro three times and still no results.
Damn. I wish I had something more you. Really sorry about that
Why not get rid of AT&T cpe and use a gpon sfp pon module direct to the udm !!!
Att runs an authentication service on their gateway. If you remove it and go direct then you won’t have internet
@@SPXLabs yep it will, you just need to clone certain info like S/N .
@PDAVID0 it’s not even worth my time or the effort. I stand to gain nothing
Thank you for saying it right the mbps
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Great video I was looking for something like this. The only issue is that it didn't work for me like your setup. I bought 10000Base-T SFP RJ-45 100-m from H! Fiber. Its came with 2 of them. I could not get a the UDMPRO to get an IP address from the modem.
Could it be because mine was not the + version?
Hard to say. Could be incompatibility or your UDMP just needs a reboot. I have no experience with any other brand than the one shown in the video.
@@SPXLabs I'm going to try it tomorrow morning and see if that works. I been having so much trouble with internet speed that I'm losing my mind...
Did you setup your ATT BGW-320 Gateway for "pass-thru"?
I've seen people rip that Gpon SFP adapter out of their units and plug them directly into the firewall, bypassing the whole combo modem. Can you do this with AT&T ? Good video mang !!
Not with this gateway. If you have the older one and the ONT you can. Along with faking certes and things.
I believe you could if you had the older AT&T gateway where the ONT was separate. With the newer BGW320, AT&T combined the ONT into the unit, which makes you have to stick with their gateway in the mix.
@@SPXLabs Ahh ok.
@@Jacobhopkins117 Ive seen people take that GPON out, and put it into a 10gig SFP+ port on their servers. bypassing the whole ONT / router device.
AT&T uses 802.1x authentication, which is why you have to use one of their modems to connect. If you have the older combo with a separate ONT and modem, you have two bypass options: 1) eap_proxy method, which still requires the AT&T modem for initial authentication, or 2) getting valid certs off the AT&T modem and then configuring your own router to use them to authenticate.
Option 1 is well documented and fairly straightforward to do. Option 2, to my previous experience with it, was a nightmare that I was never able to get working. I ran the eap_proxy method for a while, but honestly it's kind of pointless because there was no perceptible performance difference and, again, you still have to keep the AT&T box around for reauthenticating after a power or service outage.
l think you could potentially bypass the BGW320 if you can get a set of valid certs, use those with your router to do the 802.1x authentication, AND have a router with a SFP port and the right SFP module to connect the fiber line directly to your router, but honestly I don't think it would be worth the effort.
Sure, it would be nice to get rid of one extra piece of equipment, but unless you have issues with being double natted or some other uncommon use case, I really question the need to go through all the hassle to get around it. I have the BGW320 now and honestly don't have any issues dealing with bridge mode.
I'm still on an old AT&T #DSL 6.0 plan which AT&T tells me I could switch to UVerse service. My speed would go from 6.0mbps to 50.0mbps for $55.00 USD per month. Would I have to upgrade my old Dell Dimension desktop computer which is an old WIN HOME XP to a newer one having WIN 10 or WIN 11 first?
You trolling
have to pick one of these up. wondering what xfinitys 1.2gbps plan is overprovisioned to heard some have been able to get a max 1.4 gbps download and upload well... still shitty lol. Great video as well always!
Worst case scenario you spent money for no reason but I think we can all agree we’ve wasted money on worse. Best case you get consistently higher download / upload speeds.
Thank you, cheers!
@@SPXLabs just a quick update for you. i got it delivered today and tested out my speeds with xfinity gig was able to get 1.5 gbps download! got a extra 500mbps for free so totally worth it!!
Wow dude! Badass. Nice work
List of parts used to get it to work for Xfinity, please and thanks!
@@RedlineGeckos exact same setup as what SPX Labs is using. Unifi dream machine pro and the 10 gig module he shows in the video
Im getting 1.1 down over my bgw210 cat 5e cables, computer is a 1tb mac studio m2. The wiring in the house is about 6 years old. interestingly enough, upload is only about 860.
Cat5e will easily do 1000Mbps under 100 meters. It can even do 10Gbps up to and around 45 meters or so. From what I have seen Upload varies pretty hard depending on time of day. It's usually still very high regardless.
As a currently AT&T fiber tech, you just wasted money with that SFP😅 That multigig port in the back of the gateway can give you the same speed and more
the sfp+ module went into the UDMP side, to use the sfp+ uplink instead of the gigabit rj45 wan 2 uplink
love the video man! idk why att dint put a SFP+ lan port on that modem I guess cost.
The gateway is one of the strangest things I’ve ever seen. Weird design choices
pull out that SFP from that router and plug it in to UDM pro so to get higher speed and lower latency
Can't. With AT&T you need to use the BGW320 (that gateway) because it's both an ONT and router in one. There are currently no bypasses or ways to use any external device to run it, unlike the older non-XGS-PON installs (that used a separate ONT) - but they also don't support >1Gb. Maybe we'll get something at some point, but for now this is what we have.
@@ccatss2764 well ONT is that SFP+ adapter if u saw a man from canada he plugged his FTTP GPON 1 gig service from telstra straight to his pfsence box and got great result but if you want phone and IPTV then u need a ONT/ROUTER (GATEWAY)
@@ccatss2764actually you do can, there’s an ont capable for xgspon, as an AT&T tech I tell you I had installed it multiple times
I find "nperf" for speed test quite good.
And device to device speed "wifi sweetspot".
I just discovered openSpeedTest. I’ll probably start using that for device to device.
@@SPXLabs unraid is good for that as I get 9500 and 10,000 with mikrotik crs309 (8*sfp+) or something like that.
Lol I installed it on unraid today a few hours ago. Funny you mention it
Amazing wow
Sad. You merely put a module that can handle XGMII in your UDM, which, by the way, is a pretty horrendous appliance to start with, Ubiquiti stopped being a reputable company in this space when they abandoned their edgerouter product line, which was one of the best back then. You were literally limiting your speed yourself to start with, you didn't "unlock" anything here. Cute though. Also love the Ubiquiti shirt, I guess you need all the help you can get to give yourself some semblance of authority on a topic you do not master at all.
For some reason I am getting really shotty upload. But placing it in the wan port my upload shoots right up.
Maybe the SFP port is configured for backup and that’s making it work wonky
@@SPXLabs That is exactly how it's configured and I am not sure if there is a option to change that. However that makes me think.
Ahhh, très bon! Good work, for testing I usually look at task manager or activity monitor in addition to what those testing sites say - IMHO the OS should know best how much data goes in & out
Linux doesn’t hav task manager. Mwuahahahaha
@@SPXLabs Guess you tried to save a few bucks and bought the HOME instead of the PRO or ENTERPRISE version ... or just get htop or iftop ;-)
I lied actually. I mean macOS. Which reports in MB for some reason
@@SPXLabs I know you MBP shows up here and there ... BTW testing on my old crappy hardware I always open another window to cover up the test with the fancy dial animation (or minimize it), that was sucking up too much CPU, so the numbers are lower since it can't keep up with the net
Lies!
Bip. Bap. Bam!
Funny how I see all these people doing speed test on AT&T I'm getting less bandwidth than what they pay for. I paid for AT&T 1GB service and consistently get 1.3GB or higher both download and upload its never been below 1GB. I'm going to sing though it's because I am very rural and there's less than 100 people on the entire node.
I get 1.2 gigabits up n down with my pc I just upgraded my nic card lol
Thank you for using FAST because Speed test isn't accurate I use FAST and Nperf For Speedtests
Hi SPX Labs,
Turn off security policy that insects the traffic because it's impacting the absolute speed. This may give you the missing speed. :)
No thanks. I like security
@@SPXLabsDo traffic inspection at the DMZ, not at the gateway. You want a device with a decent processor for that task, not the AT&T special.
Is there anyway to use my own equipment with att fiber and not use their god awful gateway?
Not if you have a BGW 320. If you have their older model then yes.
@@SPXLabs darn! I have the BGW 320. I’ve been researching for hours trying to find a way around it.
@@SPXLabs if I were to remove the SFP from the gateway and put it into my own router that supports SFP it would not work?
You won’t be able to get around it because the ONT is built into the BGW 320 and it runs a certificate checking service.
No that will not work. There has to be an ONT between you and ATT.
@@SPXLabs thank you for your response I appreciate it! My original plan was to plug my own router to the gateway but I am getting very inconsistent speeds via Ethernet on the bgw 320 that’s what I started looking into getting my own SFP router or switch instead
I believe 5 gigs is Europe
You’re going to ruin it for us all, take this down lol
Lol yeah I did actually consider that
He's ruining nothing. He didn't discover some closely held secret. He just made his endpoint equipment fast enough to take full advantage of his WAN link. Basically, he just lifted a self-imposed limitation. You can, too.
I have 6mbps -_-
I remember those days
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This video lol.
Sad with 30 mbps 🥲🥲
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I'm sure this is an old enough video that you won't even see this question, but I'll give it a go. My home internet needs are relatively simple but I would still love to do this to have better access to what I'm paying for (the same 1gig Att you are talking about in the video) would I be able to do this same thing but using a WiFi router with an spf+ port like the TP-Link Tri-Band BE19000 WiFi 7 Router (Archer BE800)?
You could in theory do this with any equipment but honestly it’s not worth the money to do.
Did that work out? Im also trying to get a wifi 7 router with an SFP+ port, this one is called ASUS - BE7200