@@JessicaMonaa-fz6gd wow thx, haha but my video quality usually ain't the best as I just record from the phone, I guess a lot of ppl doesn't like that. But i usually include more explanation in the video description. The video is basically just proof of my claims and calculation.
Please read video description for detailed breakdown of Burn and Heat stack Calculation. In general, regardless of team, fully utilize Preignition by Round 2 to gain Interlude and by Round 4 to gain Finale.
yea totally pointless because getting to Finale is not how it works. Because regardless of how good Finale is , it is not a priority all the time. For example, in Jiu comp no matter AP you use, Jiu must be the one priority to use AP and it has to be 2 every time otherwise you are losing damage. And again regardless to my comment, obv you cant read so dont bother
@@estelle4778 then in that context it is the matter of team comp. Strictly on Jiu, most of her DMG is from her follow up atk and to a degree power burst and Rousing Morale get consumed quickly on low reality% atk and so those buffs are not beneficial for Jiu unless is timed properly for her Ulti. And given that context as well, Jiu will also be dumping all Preignition stack every turn and contribute towards heat, while before that u mentioned that u rather stack up Preignition and use it to increase Isolde's Ulti damage. So please don't just throw example in just for the sake of argument. There is no one specific playstyle, so why are you being so hostile and claiming that this is the wrong playstyle? you could instead comment that this may not be applicable for certain scenario and situation and there are better rotation for Isolde depending on Different unit or different boss fight, then we are open for more constructive discussion. I say that u didn't read! Because I did state my assumption for this analysis and this is the result that I get, if u don't like it or have your own playstyle then go ahead, u don't have to come and tell ppl that they are wrong. Just to add on to that, even raid, I won't be doing 3-4 turn Finale, 1. Is difficult at early raid to accumulate heat due to Boss resetting until they enter endless mode. 2. We probably take 6-7 turns to reach endless mode and due to that, I will have more turns to build up heat (when boss doesn't reset to next phase) so I won't be rushing for Finale quickly.
@@Destr0th Keep twisting my words " while before that u mentioned that u rather stack up Preignition and use it to increase Isolde's Ulti damage" , I never said that but alright. Regardless, I apologize for my comment because I was rude, and hope you continute doing these content in future
@@estelle4778 oh ok I thought that's what u mean lol, cause if we stack really high numbers of Preignition on let's say Tooth Fairy or maybe 6, then dump it all on the enemy before using Isolde Ulti, we can achieve a very high numbers of excess Burn, each excess stack is 15% incantation might. can be pretty insane.
When I get her in my first 10 pulls I did notice that it didn't take her long to get into [finale] and I thought some people were exaggerating a lot with "it took her a long time to get online because she has to stack 40 heat" But things happened and I ended up getting her 2 times while trying to make pity for the next banner, now thanks to that I have a P2 Isolde and Jessica against my will. I wonder if with the rate-up I should chase the P3 or leave it at that already to save Good video by the way, helped me to know the most optimal rotation
I will stay at P2. P1, P3, P5 are all to improve intermezzo's dmg, but quite a lot to be honest but to keep her dmg high, we have to ensure the Burn stack is also maintained. This can be quite difficult, like sometime, we needed to heal, buff, etc and cant be attacking the enemy every single time might make it a bit difficult to sustain Intermezzo's dmg, most of the time however it should be fine, but if against Boss that cleanse, stage with weak enemy but many enemy, or stage with many Wave, she might feel a bit lack luster. So taking all the factors and variables in, personally P0 Isolde is good enough, and since u have P1 already, that already make her a pretty solid "DPS" unit.
@@BK-jp4ys ya annoying AF, but most UTTU, Raid, and Limbo bosses doesn't do that, so we are good ahahha... Also Roguelike normal fight can be annoying if the fight has many Waves. Else for Roguelike Boss fight, it wouldn't be a problem. Isolde is still damn amazing. Didn't quite like ppl just calling her "Just a support" lol
@@BK-jp4ys Nono, is 3% reality dmg per burn stack. So after she uses Ulti and enemy is at 30 burn stack. She now does 30*13% + 50% = 440% AOE dmg As opposed to P0, it's 30*10% + 50 = 350% So u gain 90% more reality dmg (per enemy) 270% against 3 enemies More over, after the Ult intermezzo, at start of the turn, she deal another intermezzo but this one max burn stack is only 15, hence at P1 she does 245% AOE reality damage as opposed to P0 she does 200%. So don't worry, u are good 👍
That's why Im having hard time at that boss. He cleanse all of my burn stacks, I thought Im playing isolde wrong because I cant trigger the intermizzo. 💀
@@LalalalaMhie oh P1 is great 👍 , no offense but I felt for support unit, a lot of recommendation kinda miss the mark, they also got it all wrong for 6, I remember reading about it , was mentioned 6 is AP hungry and can't function in a 3 man team. But reality is 6 can just stand there and give us amazing buffs for free every turn.
The p2 is not a must but it is a good add. The best for dmg is p1 p3 and p5. However, p2 is the good portrait for support unit later if you want her to act in support position. Due to not only it speeds up process by 2 turns, it also tremendously good in stage where there is alot of cleanse and you can check in 6-2. Isolde is completely useless in there without burn stacks
@@Someone-ll1rc then u won't be able to hit finale that quickly but if you are already killing the mobs .. then I guess it doesn't really matter to hit finale quickly or later
wow this rlly helps out alot 😂 i guess P2 doesnt change alot thank god i didnt waste my remaining bunnies on it, but the calculations in the desc is assuming that the enemy with the highest burn stack doesnt die right…?
U know what? I can't wait till Joe comes along, Joe and Isolde will be insane! Now in CN Isolde banner is up, but I wanna check what Mercuria provide before I throw all my resource to get Isolde LOL
@@Destr0th yeahh reading your description and comments make me think to make her as main dps, but sadly i didn't have 6 or getian😅 do you think is it worth to amplify her psycube 5?
@@gredyi3883 working on the Psychube calculation and recommendation, it is indeed really tempting to up her Psychube LOL mine is now at A2 (usually I A2 all Psychube except support Psychube) and she does amazing damage.. I will probably decide after I test her more in Raid. So I would say let's hold on to your resources for a bit more :)
@@mechdilan3092 every burn stack is additional 10% reality dmg, at 30 stack , Isolde FUA does 350% reality dmg (this number is similar to most AOE Ult , Jessica, Jiu etc) The interesting part is that even the burn stack is already at 30, inflicting more burn stack will count towards EXCESS burn stacks (game has no counter for this), and each excess burn stack increases incantation might by 15%, 10 excess stacks = 150% incantation might, making her hit really hard.
@@prisston080 hi, no TF is not compulsory, but TF is so universal that all of us frequently use her. Joe Isolde, can go in most party since they both self sustain their kit and burn stacks. The thing with Joe, he is a little risky to play, so another healer would be recommended (Kakania, Vila, Med Poc, etc). As your 4th unit, U can use any other DPS of your liking or another support.
@@Destr0th Thank you! Also... Is there any other purpose of the 4th slot inbattle if they're just in the suitcase? Like do they give any buff while they're in there or just the purpose of it is to replace a character if they die..
This is also not a correct way to demonstrate btw, Isolde can get incredibly quick finale but that is not the whole point. The whole point is to get Finale while using the rights amount and AP priority. This is just a show case to GET her to finale ,not an actual show case of real combat where you would optimize both her and other DPS . The normal tip is to have passive unit like TF or pickle, aal and just stock up preignition burn stacks and use it when you need. Also P2 is not useless, P2 in normal term will speeds up her burn by 2 turns. And why it is not useless even with 2 turns? Because it allow not only faster power spikes, it also allows her to reach phase burns easier in a condition where her power is limited such as 6-2. You can try to do exactly same test at boss 6-2 and see how it goes
You obviously did not read the description. As explained, getting to Finale first, then once we hit Finale, it really depends on how you want to use her. As sub DPS or as support, you are right, I am not showcasing her gameplay but "how to achieve Finale quickly". So the first 4 turns are crucial to dump the preignition stacks so more burn is applied quickly. Once we hit Finale, it's better to have a passive unit like TF and to drop all the preignition stacks especially before Isolde uses her Ulti. Finale also meant she start giving more buff Quickly. So prioritize getting to Finale then do whatever you want later that suite your playstyle. Then pls read the disclaimer, I mentioned that if a boss cleanse, or fight with many waves, then this demonstration is not applicable cause the burn stack disappears. No need 6-2, but the current Boss Fight for 1.7 is actually difficult to get heat stack due to boss resetting it's status and removing burn stack while doing so. PLUS, reason I use 6-1 to demonstrate? Obvious reason as above, 6-2 boss cleanse, my gameplay will be different, my point about dumping Preignition stack that is on other units in the early 4 rounds will not be valid BUT how many fight that Boss actually cleanse? To do a comparison, there need to be a certain fixed variable, I clearly didn't label this video as "How to use Isolde" but "How to achieve Finale". I will do Isolde gameplay demonstration on the Raid. As for P2, up to you, if just simply based on Limbo 6-2 and then you decide to pull for P2, that entirely on you. How many fight does the boss cleanse or that which have many waves? Lastly answer me this, even with P2, will you use Isolde in the current Limbo 6-2?
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Man... your channel so underated, this channel better than reuploder that won't explain anything. I hope more people coming here
@@JessicaMonaa-fz6gd wow thx, haha but my video quality usually ain't the best as I just record from the phone, I guess a lot of ppl doesn't like that. But i usually include more explanation in the video description. The video is basically just proof of my claims and calculation.
I almost wanted to P2 isolde until i came across this video. Thanks for making this video! Now i can save my excess pulls for other chars.
@@PsionStar yea currently limbo, win all of them before Isolde hit Finale lol will test her on coming Mane Bulletin , see how she fair in long fights
Your description is so wonderfully put, thank for the break down. Subscribed.
@@The_True_Noble_Duke wow thx :)
Please read video description for detailed breakdown of Burn and Heat stack Calculation. In general, regardless of team, fully utilize Preignition by Round 2 to gain Interlude and by Round 4 to gain Finale.
yea totally pointless because getting to Finale is not how it works. Because regardless of how good Finale is , it is not a priority all the time. For example, in Jiu comp no matter AP you use, Jiu must be the one priority to use AP and it has to be 2 every time otherwise you are losing damage.
And again regardless to my comment, obv you cant read so dont bother
@@estelle4778 then in that context it is the matter of team comp.
Strictly on Jiu, most of her DMG is from her follow up atk and to a degree power burst and Rousing Morale get consumed quickly on low reality% atk and so those buffs are not beneficial for Jiu unless is timed properly for her Ulti.
And given that context as well, Jiu will also be dumping all Preignition stack every turn and contribute towards heat, while before that u mentioned that u rather stack up Preignition and use it to increase Isolde's Ulti damage. So please don't just throw example in just for the sake of argument.
There is no one specific playstyle, so why are you being so hostile and claiming that this is the wrong playstyle? you could instead comment that this may not be applicable for certain scenario and situation and there are better rotation for Isolde depending on Different unit or different boss fight, then we are open for more constructive discussion.
I say that u didn't read! Because I did state my assumption for this analysis and this is the result that I get, if u don't like it or have your own playstyle then go ahead, u don't have to come and tell ppl that they are wrong.
Just to add on to that, even raid, I won't be doing 3-4 turn Finale,
1. Is difficult at early raid to accumulate heat due to Boss resetting until they enter endless mode.
2. We probably take 6-7 turns to reach endless mode and due to that, I will have more turns to build up heat (when boss doesn't reset to next phase) so I won't be rushing for Finale quickly.
@@estelle4778 but let's wait for this new limbo and raid.. I will test her out in different set up and do dmg comparison .. then we talk from there
@@Destr0th Keep twisting my words " while before that u mentioned that u rather stack up Preignition and use it to increase Isolde's Ulti damage" , I never said that but alright.
Regardless, I apologize for my comment because I was rude, and hope you continute doing these content in future
@@estelle4778 oh ok I thought that's what u mean lol, cause if we stack really high numbers of Preignition on let's say Tooth Fairy or maybe 6, then dump it all on the enemy before using Isolde Ulti, we can achieve a very high numbers of excess Burn, each excess stack is 15% incantation might. can be pretty insane.
I almost got possessed by my gambler spirit, but luckily I saw your video, and now I can peacefully save my pull for the next banner. THANK YOU😂
@@zrzl nice :) u pulling Marcus ?
@@Destr0th Yes🎰
@@zrzl good luck ! I was planning to but obtained Jessica when pulling Jiu, so I decided to skip Marcus
Some gotta adopt Marcus after Hoffman death
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Thank you for this! I skipped the other burn characters, so this makes it a lot easier to play with her.
Thanks man, UA-cam recommended your video to me😂. Subscribed
@@hen2019 thx you :) appreciate it
your channel is amazing, hopefully more and more people will see this channel
@@HeavyAquamarine thx you :)
When I get her in my first 10 pulls I did notice that it didn't take her long to get into [finale] and I thought some people were exaggerating a lot with "it took her a long time to get online because she has to stack 40 heat"
But things happened and I ended up getting her 2 times while trying to make pity for the next banner, now thanks to that I have a P2 Isolde and Jessica against my will. I wonder if with the rate-up I should chase the P3 or leave it at that already to save
Good video by the way, helped me to know the most optimal rotation
I will stay at P2.
P1, P3, P5 are all to improve intermezzo's dmg, but quite a lot to be honest but to keep her dmg high, we have to ensure the Burn stack is also maintained. This can be quite difficult, like sometime, we needed to heal, buff, etc and cant be attacking the enemy every single time might make it a bit difficult to sustain Intermezzo's dmg, most of the time however it should be fine, but if against Boss that cleanse, stage with weak enemy but many enemy, or stage with many Wave, she might feel a bit lack luster. So taking all the factors and variables in, personally P0 Isolde is good enough, and since u have P1 already, that already make her a pretty solid "DPS" unit.
Thank u for the information (even tho I got P2 Isolde, I'm still struggling with her Finale)
I like your past disclaimer. I used her to fight the last boss of the main chapter of 37 snd it will cleanse all burn at the end of the turn. 😢 damn
@@BK-jp4ys ya annoying AF, but most UTTU, Raid, and Limbo bosses doesn't do that, so we are good ahahha... Also Roguelike normal fight can be annoying if the fight has many Waves. Else for Roguelike Boss fight, it wouldn't be a problem. Isolde is still damn amazing. Didn't quite like ppl just calling her "Just a support" lol
@@Destr0th p1 got her dmg increase 3%. I dont know if it’s worth it now i come to think of it.
@@BK-jp4ys Nono, is 3% reality dmg per burn stack.
So after she uses Ulti and enemy is at 30 burn stack.
She now does 30*13% + 50% = 440% AOE dmg
As opposed to P0, it's 30*10% + 50 = 350%
So u gain 90% more reality dmg (per enemy) 270% against 3 enemies
More over, after the Ult intermezzo, at start of the turn, she deal another intermezzo but this one max burn stack is only 15, hence at P1 she does 245% AOE reality damage as opposed to P0 she does 200%.
So don't worry, u are good 👍
@@Destr0th wow thanks
That's why Im having hard time at that boss. He cleanse all of my burn stacks, I thought Im playing isolde wrong because I cant trigger the intermizzo. 💀
Thank you! I thought getting P2 is a must because Prydwen reccomended it, I lost all of my pulls but got her P1 and An-an lee which is not bad. ❤
@@LalalalaMhie oh P1 is great 👍 , no offense but I felt for support unit, a lot of recommendation kinda miss the mark, they also got it all wrong for 6, I remember reading about it , was mentioned 6 is AP hungry and can't function in a 3 man team. But reality is 6 can just stand there and give us amazing buffs for free every turn.
The p2 is not a must but it is a good add.
The best for dmg is p1 p3 and p5. However, p2 is the good portrait for support unit later if you want her to act in support position. Due to not only it speeds up process by 2 turns, it also tremendously good in stage where there is alot of cleanse and you can check in 6-2. Isolde is completely useless in there without burn stacks
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Thank you for the detailed explanation comrade (✿^‿^)
What if you don’t conveniently have a boss to tank damage with? Regular enemies die quickly, and they don’t give heat after death.
@@Someone-ll1rc then u won't be able to hit finale that quickly but if you are already killing the mobs .. then I guess it doesn't really matter to hit finale quickly or later
I wasn't trying to get p2 Isolde but after I got her I did another 10 pull and got two copies of her😭😭😭
@@ezekielleomarcasquejo80 not a lost, P1 is already amazing
@@Destr0this the games gacha bugged??? I got another Isolde right now
@@ezekielleomarcasquejo80 wat? U still pulling ? So Ur Isolde P3 now?
@@Destr0thyeah I'm doing 1 pulls to increase my pity and I keep on getting her
@@ezekielleomarcasquejo80 wat the! Pls give me some.. I threw 30 at her and no P1
wow this rlly helps out alot 😂 i guess P2 doesnt change alot thank god i didnt waste my remaining bunnies on it, but the calculations in the desc is assuming that the enemy with the highest burn stack doesnt die right…?
@@joeexandenigrichceo yes correct, so she is not very good in fight with many waves. Limbo, raid, most boss fight shouldn't be a problem
U know what? I can't wait till Joe comes along, Joe and Isolde will be insane! Now in CN Isolde banner is up, but I wanna check what Mercuria provide before I throw all my resource to get Isolde LOL
i got her p3 in just 80 pulls, idk it is luck or cursed because i just keep pulling because i want to lose on her banner to get 37 or maybe TF
@@gredyi3883 she definitely can function as your main DPS now :)
@@Destr0th yeahh reading your description and comments make me think to make her as main dps, but sadly i didn't have 6 or getian😅 do you think is it worth to amplify her psycube 5?
@@gredyi3883 working on the Psychube calculation and recommendation, it is indeed really tempting to up her Psychube LOL mine is now at A2 (usually I A2 all Psychube except support Psychube) and she does amazing damage.. I will probably decide after I test her more in Raid. So I would say let's hold on to your resources for a bit more :)
@@Destr0th ohhh great! can't wait for the result!
hello, does this keep in mind the fact aoe attacks spread the same amount of burn on both enemies? as you can see i use isolde with Knight
@@rikuyuno241 yes AOE spread to both enemy, but Isolde gain heat from the enemy with the highest stack...
Yooo how isolde fua get 43k damage? I still don't get it explain me pls
@@mechdilan3092 every burn stack is additional 10% reality dmg, at 30 stack , Isolde FUA does 350% reality dmg (this number is similar to most AOE Ult , Jessica, Jiu etc)
The interesting part is that even the burn stack is already at 30, inflicting more burn stack will count towards EXCESS burn stacks (game has no counter for this), and each excess burn stack increases incantation might by 15%, 10 excess stacks = 150% incantation might, making her hit really hard.
New player here. is TF really necessary for this comp? Thinking about Joe and Isolde but dunno who else to pair with them
@@prisston080 hi, no TF is not compulsory, but TF is so universal that all of us frequently use her.
Joe Isolde, can go in most party since they both self sustain their kit and burn stacks. The thing with Joe, he is a little risky to play, so another healer would be recommended (Kakania, Vila, Med Poc, etc). As your 4th unit, U can use any other DPS of your liking or another support.
@@Destr0th Thank you! Also... Is there any other purpose of the 4th slot inbattle if they're just in the suitcase? Like do they give any buff while they're in there or just the purpose of it is to replace a character if they die..
@@prisston080 no purpose, but idk if u know we will use the 4 slot char inbattle too, 4 char in 1 team (like in limbo or raid)
This is also not a correct way to demonstrate btw, Isolde can get incredibly quick finale but that is not the whole point. The whole point is to get Finale while using the rights amount and AP priority. This is just a show case to GET her to finale ,not an actual show case of real combat where you would optimize both her and other DPS . The normal tip is to have passive unit like TF or pickle, aal and just stock up preignition burn stacks and use it when you need.
Also P2 is not useless, P2 in normal term will speeds up her burn by 2 turns. And why it is not useless even with 2 turns? Because it allow not only faster power spikes, it also allows her to reach phase burns easier in a condition where her power is limited such as 6-2. You can try to do exactly same test at boss 6-2 and see how it goes
You obviously did not read the description. As explained, getting to Finale first, then once we hit Finale, it really depends on how you want to use her. As sub DPS or as support, you are right, I am not showcasing her gameplay but "how to achieve Finale quickly".
So the first 4 turns are crucial to dump the preignition stacks so more burn is applied quickly. Once we hit Finale, it's better to have a passive unit like TF and to drop all the preignition stacks especially before Isolde uses her Ulti. Finale also meant she start giving more buff Quickly. So prioritize getting to Finale then do whatever you want later that suite your playstyle. Then pls read the disclaimer, I mentioned that if a boss cleanse, or fight with many waves, then this demonstration is not applicable cause the burn stack disappears. No need 6-2, but the current Boss Fight for 1.7 is actually difficult to get heat stack due to boss resetting it's status and removing burn stack while doing so.
PLUS, reason I use 6-1 to demonstrate? Obvious reason as above, 6-2 boss cleanse, my gameplay will be different, my point about dumping Preignition stack that is on other units in the early 4 rounds will not be valid BUT how many fight that Boss actually cleanse?
To do a comparison, there need to be a certain fixed variable, I clearly didn't label this video as "How to use Isolde" but "How to achieve Finale". I will do Isolde gameplay demonstration on the Raid.
As for P2, up to you, if just simply based on Limbo 6-2 and then you decide to pull for P2, that entirely on you. How many fight does the boss cleanse or that which have many waves?
Lastly answer me this, even with P2, will you use Isolde in the current Limbo 6-2?
@@Destr0th it seems the one lacking reading is you
@@estelle4778 lol