Debt Ceiling Crisis | What If The U.S. Defaults?

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  • The debt ceiling crisis is taking us closer to the "X Date," the date the U.S. would start to default on its obligations. Many have asked me what would happen if the unthinkable occurred and the U.S. did in fact default. In this video I'll share four things:
    1. A brief history of the debt ceiling
    2. Ramifications of a debt ceiling crisis that gets resolved
    3. Ramifications if the U.S. actually defaults
    4. What, if anything, we should do to prepare
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  • @dmsoundcollective6746
    @dmsoundcollective6746 Рік тому +25

    I finally got my 22k in my Roth and 401k that may not seem like a lot to most people but for me it's huge my wife and are in our late 50s and have been living from paycheck to paycheck all our lives. Channel and it really changed how I think about my finances now. I hope I'm able to save enough to make a difference for my retirement. Thank you Rob if it wasn't for you I wouldn't be doing anything I told you this before and it's still true you're my hero

  • @brianb6957
    @brianb6957 Рік тому +6

    I would suggest not paying a penny of tax to these crooks. They, the government, cannot have a cut of everything.

  • @josevaldocostaaragao8293
    @josevaldocostaaragao8293 Рік тому +4

    Hi, Rob Berger! Nice to meet you! I like so much the way you are explaining us about Debt Ceiling Crisis! My sincerely congratulations! I hope one day to take part of one of your mocs! Cheers!

  • @peterizzo6527
    @peterizzo6527 Рік тому +2

    Excellent information as usual, thank you Rob! Read about the T-Bill situation from your last newsletter. Really appreciate your perspective.

  • @jaytan915
    @jaytan915 Рік тому +11

    I don't wish the suffering you would go through but I can think of a few silver linings.
    1. The US will have to stop waging wars overseas.
    2. Developing countries debt would be lighter and their products pay more and
    3. The US can learn to manage its finances by responsible budgeting, like everyone else does.

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому +1

      I can hear the credit card companies belly laughing at your #3...

    • @jaytan915
      @jaytan915 Рік тому +1

      @@noydbwia I am sure all 3 are laughable.

    • @damiantirado9616
      @damiantirado9616 Рік тому

      Sounds like a good thing

  • @denconstutube
    @denconstutube Рік тому

    Excelent summary. Thank you. You answered lot of questions that were on my mind.

  • @parrsnipps4495
    @parrsnipps4495 Рік тому +7

    As of 4/26/2023 many House Reps won't sign McCarthy's debt ceiling bill because it doesn't demand enough. However, Biden says just a the bill is he would veto it & reiterated he will only sign a clean bill. So we are still headed for default. The stock market tends to react to things before they happen, so there could be a crash before the estimated X date.

    • @eljefe5858
      @eljefe5858 Рік тому

      Yeap. Also read a few month ago that is stimates and date chance for worse on a second or third reading, it could be sooner than end of june.

  • @treavey1
    @treavey1 Рік тому

    bob makes a really great and key point to be wary of government money market accounts at this time if a debt default seems likely.

  • @canyonoverlook9937
    @canyonoverlook9937 Рік тому +9

    This issue regularly comes up, doesn't it?

  • @patrickm1395
    @patrickm1395 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the video. I like the measured tone and your preparation suggestions seem reasonable. a run on govt based money market funds could be problematic for some of the brokerage houses.

  • @rubicon3416
    @rubicon3416 Рік тому +21

    We can't continue to double our national debt every 8 years to keep this circus going. The day of reckoning will come.

    • @corralescruiser8957
      @corralescruiser8957 Рік тому +5

      What do you suggest we cut? SS? Medicare? Military? VA? Infrastructure? Social programs arent going to make a dent. But cut welfare and child care WIC? Oil subsidies? Farm subsidies? Solar subsidies?

    • @attorneyaviator1318
      @attorneyaviator1318 Рік тому +7

      All of the above. It’s always the response to say that we have no choice but to spend money we don’t have.

    • @royprovins7037
      @royprovins7037 Рік тому +3

      @@corralescruiser8957 Departent of Education, DOJ, FBI and we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined

    • @buddy123hound
      @buddy123hound Рік тому +4

      Increase the top marginal tax rate to 90% like it was during the most prosperous time in US.

    • @joeb1522
      @joeb1522 Рік тому

      ​@@buddy123houndWe could have a 100% tax rate.

  • @gorjeramirez4418
    @gorjeramirez4418 Рік тому +2

    I’m a 19 year old with a family I don’t have emergency funds I’m fuckkkked

  • @darthnegativehunter8659
    @darthnegativehunter8659 Рік тому +2

    are they implying that US gov has no assets to sell to pay the debt? how is it a default if it has assets to sell?

  • @UtahTrucker
    @UtahTrucker Рік тому

    Great video

  • @dolliscrawford280
    @dolliscrawford280 Рік тому +3

    What if it is permanent this time?

  • @canyonoverlook9937
    @canyonoverlook9937 Рік тому +6

    When would you move from a money market to a bank account? A week before the date or now?

  • @nevanread
    @nevanread Рік тому +2

    The possible x date is June 1st. Source is a letter by the Treasury secretary which was publicly released on May 1st

  • @StevePilgrim2013
    @StevePilgrim2013 Рік тому +19

    Sir, an excellent explanation! Thanks for doing this video. My expectations for our current politicians are low. I could easily see a default (due to political impasse) that lasts from a Thursday through a weekend & into Monday or Tuesday. I fear that even that will do substantial & irreparable damage to the country's standing in the world. Hoping I'm wrong.

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому +4

      No default is going to happen... Nothing is more secure in this world than the moneylender's ability to skate by on a string and keep all the plates spinning.... It's a tale as old as time itself...

    • @DaTooch_e
      @DaTooch_e Рік тому

      No default is going to happen. McCarthy went to Wall Street. Biden went to American people. Donors want a deal on the debt ceiling. Poor and middle class will bear the brunt.

  • @alexgrant11
    @alexgrant11 Рік тому +2

    Rob, Another informative video. For someone who is rolling a reg ira from a cancelled financial planner into a new firm (Vanguard) ,should we wait in cash money market 4.7% until we see how summer goes?In our past investing, We have never timed the market , however, these are different times. Your advise?

  • @rosaoddin4338
    @rosaoddin4338 Рік тому +2

    Rob - this program was really on point and valuable. Thank you.
    Your opinion please if possible - I presently have a Schwab treasury money market fund which I’m now thinking of moving those funds to an alternate fund which is essentially non-treasury. I too believe the “crisis” is not likely but really appreciate your measured and practical approach. I’m also considering placing a portion of those funds into CDs of varying maturities.

  • @joeb1522
    @joeb1522 Рік тому +3

    Why would you hold on to your T bills that mature after June, but you wouldn't have any savings in a money market account that invests in T bills?

  • @Vade1313
    @Vade1313 Рік тому

    @Rob Berger Thanks for the info Sir! All my $ is in T-Bills. I'm not worried about getting the interest back at all. I'm worried about the principal! Gonna keep buying and hope for the best. The rates are getting scary though, look at the 4 week today 5.964%..... That's just insane to me!

  • @davidv.2050
    @davidv.2050 Рік тому +7

    According to Treasury Department plan, there would be no default on Treasury securities. Treasury would continue to pay interest on those Treasury securities as it comes due. And, as securities mature, Treasury would pay that principal by auctioning new securities for the same amount (and thus not increasing the overall stock of debt held by the public).

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      Correct, and that's why my continuing purchasing schedule will not be changed, but actually may ramp up a bit. I auto reinvest anyways, so they're more secure than my maturing securities, which I will have so few of until long after the current fiasco.

    • @Wha2les
      @Wha2les Рік тому

      So this means I shouldn't be concerned on my I bonds?
      B/c at this point foreign debt like Japan seems more appealing...

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому +1

      @@Wha2les tbh, with Savings bonds, like I Bonds, that is a definitive "will not fail" avenue unless the US Government itself dissolves and the only form of Govmnt. at that time is regional and local "warlords" are the new form of rulers... If the US Gov itself fails, your I Bonds and my Treasuries and everyone's cash (or CDBC) becomes worthless and we'll all have bigger things to worry about. So I say this, Full steam ahead until the show is over. Also, keep your "money" in the US, if the US fails, everyone will be right behind them in an exceedingly short order. If you want to buy something valuable that will always be valuable, yes, it's gold and silver.

    • @Wha2les
      @Wha2les Рік тому

      @@noydbwia fair enough. Not to be political, but I find it annoying and tedious that a group of politicians are willing to hold all of us hostage on some cuts that will do nothing to actually lower the federal debt. The math just don't add up.
      And that leads to huge distrust in the federal govt securities. If would be more beneficial to put money with Microsoft right now or some other more stable govt that aren't pulling this kind of shit.
      I assume the value of the dollar would plummet like a rock when we default eh?

    • @jtslaptop
      @jtslaptop Рік тому +2

      Can you provide a link to Yellen and/or the Treasury stating this, because I have not heard of it? Thank you!

  • @evelynmurphy1394
    @evelynmurphy1394 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for the video! Are Treasury and Gov't repurchase agreements the type of treasuries that could be "at risk" if a default occurs?

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  Рік тому +2

      In 2011 there are big concerns over repo lending because they often rely on Treasuries for security.

    • @shane5967
      @shane5967 Рік тому

      @@rob_berger So would you say to stay out of Vanguard's VMFXX and VUSXX until the debt crisis is over since they rely heavily on Gov't repurchase agreements and US Gov't Obligations?

  • @juliet1774
    @juliet1774 Рік тому +2

    In the event of a recession, in which sectors would you consider "bargain shopping?"

  • @allans7281
    @allans7281 Рік тому +1

    I am a 3 month T-bond holder. If the government defaults on the payment does that mean the bond goes worthless or payment it’s just postponed?

  • @Hybridog
    @Hybridog Рік тому +1

    You were specific in mentioning Money Market FUNDS and to avoid them during this time. What about Money Market Accounts like savings accounts? Banks are pretty opaque about what instruments they use for these accounts so how would we know one was safer than another?

  • @durudadlani1931
    @durudadlani1931 Рік тому

    In case of a debt default, the social security recipients will have bouncing checks - broke! The politicians will not receive their sweet cheques...What the heck?!?!

  • @Random.Adventures.
    @Random.Adventures. Рік тому

    Thanks curios what happens to the bond markets. Usually everyone runs to bonds in a recession so bonds go up as a safety new but when GOV defaults I'd say are bonds are not a safety new anymore correct?

  • @Swampdog55
    @Swampdog55 Рік тому +2

    Rob, Thanks for another Great video! Could you explain why you said you would invest in T Bills but not money market funds that invested in T Bills? I didn't understand that? Thanks!

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  Рік тому +2

      Great question. I should have been more precise. I wouldn't rely on MMF for liquidity should the gov't default. But I also wouldn't rely on T Bills for liquidity. I would invest in them if yields rose from the fear of default, but with money I don't need right now. Again, the odds of a default are low, but I would use FDIC-insured deposit accounts for liquidity.

    • @Swampdog55
      @Swampdog55 Рік тому

      @@rob_berger Thank you!

  • @krisskogs2532
    @krisskogs2532 Рік тому +3

    Would a Stable Value Fund in a 401k be a good option for loss protection in a U.S. default scenario?

    • @RoobieRhoo
      @RoobieRhoo Рік тому

      By stable, you mean "safe" and probably invested in government bonds...our debt. My guess is no retirement plan invested in US bonds, including social security, will be safe. The Treasury is already redeeming federal retirement bonds to pay existing benefits, but they cannot issue more because it counts against the debt. That fund has some headroom, but it will go broke at some point. If the impasse is resolved, the fund must be made whole by law.

  • @mattmatt245
    @mattmatt245 Рік тому

    Any risk to brokered CDs from FDIC insured banks ?

  • @poopface011
    @poopface011 Рік тому +2

    US debt underpins the entire global financial system. A default would be Armageddon. A dramatic re-pricing of the most trusted, most liquid collateral in the banking system would bring about a financial chaos the world has never seen. I like how we get teased with this every so often

  • @Wha2les
    @Wha2les Рік тому +1

    Don't you mean when it default? I have 0 faith Congress will get their act together

  • @harikrishnanchandramohan4209
    @harikrishnanchandramohan4209 Рік тому +1

    Its not a ceiling anymore if you can keep raising it indefinitely, is it?

  • @eBroncos
    @eBroncos Рік тому

    What is the difference between High Rate and Investment Rate that I see in the auction results?

  • @davidrogers0717
    @davidrogers0717 Рік тому +18

    I think the biggest concern is long-term. At what point does the weight of the public debt become too much to bear. We are beyond the ability to payback or paydown, so seems like inflating the dollar is the only lever left.

    • @mere_cat
      @mere_cat Рік тому +3

      Agreed. I think higher inflation the next decade is likely.

    • @ColonelFredPuntridge
      @ColonelFredPuntridge Рік тому +2

      The debt-ceiling question isn’t about spending. It’s about whether to pay back debt we have already borrowed and spent.
      It’s not like deciding how much to buy using the credit card. We have already done that. The question is whether we should refuse to pay the credit card bill when it arrives.
      (What happens to people who spend and run up big credit card bills and then refuse to pay them?)

    • @user-rm7kb3il6x
      @user-rm7kb3il6x Рік тому

      ​@@ColonelFredPuntridge you'd think both sides would agree to fix this issue with spending, but Republicans still want to cut taxes but reduce spending, and democrats are still trying to increase spending and increase taxes to compensate for their excessive spending.
      If we are going to get this under control, we need to at least keep out taxes constant, and allocate resources where they are most valuable, and stop trying to spend even more money like a $3.5 trillion climate initiative bill. These politicians ability to cooperate and compromise for the betterment of America really annoys me. I'm more annoyed with the democrats for just saying "let's get rid of the debt ceiling" and not wanting to compromise on spending, and instead just continuing to raise it. Republicans are being stubborn on this issue because they know democrats won't compromise on spending under any other circumstance other than the possibility of a complete economic collapse.

    • @ColonelFredPuntridge
      @ColonelFredPuntridge Рік тому

      @@user-rm7kb3il6x
      No, Republicans don't really want to reduce spending; that is just a pose. They have had all three branches of government several times since 1980, and every time, they _increase_ government spending.

    • @user-rm7kb3il6x
      @user-rm7kb3il6x Рік тому

      @@ColonelFredPuntridge I don't have the hard data to back that, but either way, democrats push way harder for government spending and it's usually Republicans preventing them getting approved

  • @09gamecock
    @09gamecock Рік тому +4

    Thank you for this video! I feel like I remember some kind of default maybe 2011 or 2013 that DID result in military pay being delayed…Navy Fed and USAA stepped in to front military salary payments. We had Navy Fed so they paid my husband for t
    One or two paychecks while military was delayed…this would be catastrophic for most military families who probably don’t have money saved and do not have two income households

    • @omo2023
      @omo2023 Рік тому

      You're referring to sequester and I believe it started in 2011.

  • @peterlim3189
    @peterlim3189 Рік тому +1

    Why worried about the debt ceiling, when all they're doing is to print more money??? 😂😂😂

  • @RoobieRhoo
    @RoobieRhoo Рік тому

    According to the extraordinary measures letter Secretary Yellen sent to congress, dated 19 Jan 2023, the Treasury is redeeming bonds held in federal retirement funds creating "headroom" to pay existing benefits to federal retirees. When a "debt issuance suspension period" exists, the Treasury is unable to invest in these funds. However, when the impasse is lifted, those depleted funds are to be made whole.

  • @jamesrobertson504
    @jamesrobertson504 Рік тому

    Rob, most of the big brokerage's government money market funds have access to the Federal Reserve Reverse Repo facility, but there is a limit on how much they can access currently. Perhaps if we actually default, the Fed could temporarily raise those limits on the RRP to keep those money market funds liquid? Might be safer to be in those money markets rather than TBills at this point in time. Agree on having money in FDIC banks for emergency, but for cash to take advantage of a drop in the stock market in case of default, I'm thinking of how to preserve liquidity in my brokerage account and I know the Fed can "print" money into the RRP at will w/o approval from Congress.

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  Рік тому +1

      Perhaps. This was a big concern in 2011.

    • @kristinb5121
      @kristinb5121 Рік тому +1

      Back then I remember the government guaranteeing broker cash accounts would not fall below dollar par. This reassured a lot of people.

    • @yusefshakur669
      @yusefshakur669 Рік тому

      @Rob Berger airport Greyhound bus and amtrack are closed

  • @DaystarHiker
    @DaystarHiker Рік тому

    Definitely going into default. Unfortunately I am retiring, now. If I weren't I would just leave it alone and live off my income floor (annuity). But given my circumstances: Moving all my portfolios into CD's paying 5.6% for 1 year. After a year perhaps I'll get back into the market, depending on what happens next.

  • @PokerFart
    @PokerFart Рік тому

    I’m sorting everything now and am praying 🙏 for a US government default. Your pain is my gain.

  • @johnguertin5054
    @johnguertin5054 Рік тому

    Berger for President!!!

  • @brucerobertson3197
    @brucerobertson3197 Рік тому

    An extended non payment of treasury bills would cause the banks to fail. (Treasury Bills are a large part of their revenue.)
    FDIC Insurance has a significant amount of their money in short term Treasury Bills so they would not have the money to bail out banks and depositors.

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      Exactly why I feel comfortable at this point, among other beliefs and knowledge of the overall game being played...

  • @dolliscrawford280
    @dolliscrawford280 Рік тому

    It went down in the late 90's also not reflected on the chart.

  • @AccordionJoe1
    @AccordionJoe1 Рік тому +1

    Defaulting would be the best thing the government could do. Then no one would buy U.S. bonds and the politicians in Washington would be forced to spend no more than is taken in through taxes, tariffs, etc.

  • @samialkhammash1985
    @samialkhammash1985 Рік тому +3

    In 2011, if I remember correctly. The credit rating was cut because of no budget cut or solid plan to reduce the debt burden, not only the debt ceiling.

  • @bradleyvanzile1111
    @bradleyvanzile1111 Рік тому

    Chances of defaulting are pretty slim! it would be stupid for the politicians to allow it basically that is saying they are not doing their jobs send home packing! We do not need all the BS!! So what are people going to talk about and make a big deal once the day ceiling is resolved? EMBARRASSING!!

  • @alancunningham3291
    @alancunningham3291 Рік тому

    Thanks for explaining why the 4 week T-Bills were dropping.

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      That's where your bank gets the interest from it gives you a shaving of... My short-term T-bills have already been ratcheted up as I've already cut the cord with banks and make an end run around them to go get the principal directly from the treasury myself.

    • @alancunningham3291
      @alancunningham3291 Рік тому

      @@noydbwia I have a larger quantity in four weeks maturing this month but I'm not sure if I want to continue with the t-bills until the debt ceiling debate is over. Thoughts?

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      @@alancunningham3291 Putting it bluntly, the media circus surrounding this latest "debt ceiling crisis" is just another way to distract people for the real reason, which is, the game plan to ramp up the switch from physical currency to the CDBC. There has to be a banking crisis that will help that plan along. The banks that make up the Fed will have no problems, but there needs to be a diversion and this is a perfect one. Since my treasury investment plan includes reinvestments, the "crisis", as it's called, has very little effect on my trust in the system. There were safeguards built into the 2011 crisis that virtually guaranteed that the treasuries would be paid, regardless of whatever else. T-Bills are the safest place for your "money" there is, not a doubt in my mind on that.

  • @shobhapai8927
    @shobhapai8927 Рік тому

    Buffett had a gr8 solution 4 how to balance the U.S. Fed Budget & pay down the U.S. Public Debt: "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes.U just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for reelection

  • @robevans2114
    @robevans2114 Рік тому

    Crazy think is after the drama is over everyone gets their back pay so no value

  • @RWROW
    @RWROW Рік тому +2

    Interesting that the actual plan being put together by the Treasury to deal with a failure to raise the debt ceiling is not made public. No doubt it is withheld because of the immediate lobbying they'd get from the biggest losers from the plan. But my guess is that not revealing it, means the situation will be uglier when/if it happens.

  • @pkstar4641
    @pkstar4641 Рік тому +1

    Should we take out all our money out of our accounts?

  • @peterdupuis9238
    @peterdupuis9238 Рік тому

    If I can make my payments on time, why is it that the U.S government can’t? Seriously? It’s as simple as that, without all the fancy nomenclature being thrown around. Why should they be allowed to pull this nonsense when I can’t?

  • @allans7281
    @allans7281 Рік тому

    Always buy when there’s a panic and sell when times are good

  • @rosaliethomson4655
    @rosaliethomson4655 Рік тому

    I'm looking to get dividend income. People will still eat, etc.

  • @kellylavoy6566
    @kellylavoy6566 Рік тому

    So technically apeaking if wages (not minimum wage) increases and the government made corperates pay more and kept food prices / howpital bills low then we could pay iff our debts? And avoid all this while taxes corperations (making them stay) and bringing back manufacturing home like medications, lil/ green tech, local famers there would be self sustaining micro evenrotiments (cities/towns), then macro level each state is surained we could avlid this whole situation?

  • @RWROW
    @RWROW Рік тому +2

    Good review, thank you. You didn't mention actual cash in hand. Any chance this situation could get so bad that having extra cash in hand might be necessary?

    • @tenacious645
      @tenacious645 Рік тому +2

      Promoting that is how you end up with a banking system collapse ironically making your cash in hand worthless.

    • @coconat777
      @coconat777 Рік тому +1

      Cash will be worthless. Better to get gold or other metals, or even basic necessities

  • @sandrachivel
    @sandrachivel Рік тому +92

    Nice video, all I can say now is my life has changed since meeting Katherine Anne Roos. She helped us become debt free and save for retirement." I made over 220K during this dip, which made it clear there's more to the market than we average joes know. Having an investment adviser is currently the best course of action, especially for those who are close to making losses

    • @Eganthegod
      @Eganthegod Рік тому

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    • @nectarcityking
      @nectarcityking Рік тому

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    • @colemanjnr
      @colemanjnr Рік тому

      Both stocks and IRA investments goes in for long term , have you ever considered investing to the crypto , forex , Indices market before ? Until now ?

    • @Edetienne123
      @Edetienne123 Рік тому

      The financial markets are full with opportunities, but I've learned a lot over the past few years to doubt that. The key is knowing where to focus. Well appreciated, Katherine Anne Roos.

    • @Lordlugard1
      @Lordlugard1 Рік тому

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  • @wric01
    @wric01 Рік тому

    Silly to wait for it to happen, i cash out now and let it tank as it does every 5 or 10 years. Then ride it. Don't sit.

  • @MW-xm1rc
    @MW-xm1rc Рік тому

    Well a lot of retired union members will stop getting their pension payments because the money is invested in U S Treasury Notes!

  • @dkeithley1204
    @dkeithley1204 Рік тому

    May 20th I just found your channel and I have a question that nobody's answering and I would really appreciate it if you could give us some kind of an answer I'm leaving this message on May 20th I know that money has been put aside for Ukraine I research that but if we do not reach the debt ceiling and everything falls in it sounds like that money that's put aside for Ukraine that has not been sent to them yet will be safe. If that is true that is not fair can you explain what happens to all of this money we have not sent to Ukraine but if pledged if the debt ceiling is not risen thank you very much

  • @danmcgov123
    @danmcgov123 Рік тому

    Unless you've spent your career in the debt markets (as I have), you wouldn't understand how U.S. Treasuries are fundamental to our entire financial system. They are foundational to everything else. Miss principal and interest payments and watch the bottom fall out.

  • @marionmarsh318
    @marionmarsh318 Рік тому

    Rob ...Who are we Selling the GOLD to?

  • @anthonyenos2835
    @anthonyenos2835 Рік тому

    Who are we borrowing money from?

  • @shadowninja6689
    @shadowninja6689 Рік тому +4

    IMHO I think the debt ceiling drama is way overblown. Worse case scenario Congress doesn't raise the debt limit, so the Treasury Secretary declares that the debt limit is illegal because it contradicts other spending & tax laws congress has passed (which require the US government to borrow money to fulfill said laws) and continues to borrow money anyway in order to fulfill those laws congress has passed. If anyone dares try to sue them to stop the US government from borrowing more money the courts will quickly rule in the favor of the Treasury Secretary, and strike down the debt ceiling. At the end of the day the worst that will happen long term is the US will have slightly higher borrowing costs because of some investor confidence being lost by this mess.

    • @murraypassarieu9115
      @murraypassarieu9115 Рік тому

      Agree. Plus I just don't see congress's corporate overlords allowing these guys to really default. They know it's stupid.

    • @paulstein916
      @paulstein916 Рік тому

      @@murraypassarieu9115 There are a lot of stupid people in Congress. McCarthy only has a 4 vote margin in the GOP caucus to pass legislation. You saw what Gaetz did to hijack the vote for speaker.

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      That's to the benefit of those of us who don't mind rolling the dice and staying in the t-bill game... I've said since I first started this that there's only two ways to lose on treasuries: 1. Sell prior to maturity and 2. the US gov. goes belly up and I can guarantee you, that ain't happening... They do not lose, ever... They invented the game, the only losers out there that act with emotions when it comes to their money. One has to keep their emotions out of the game if they're gonna go long term.

    • @EricMalek
      @EricMalek Рік тому

      If you have a credit card limit and you spend recklessly to meet that limit, are you able to raise that limit? You see, this is a concept that eludes our “leaders”.

  • @fredf.3769
    @fredf.3769 Рік тому +4

    Rob, another good video. Being retired for 10 yrs I'm conservatively invested for income and capital preservation.. 75% corp. bonds = 10% CD's and treasury - 8% ARCC - 6%ET - 1% ZIM. What scares me is that the republicans are willing to go into full blown default, and foreign country's having a fire sale of US debt. Your thoughts?

    • @robevans2114
      @robevans2114 Рік тому

      On the flip side if the Republican crater the US, they probably will be eliminated

    • @tshandy1
      @tshandy1 Рік тому

      What scares me is Biden is simply unwilling to negotiate with McCarthy. The U.S. government has runaway spending problem. And Biden doesn’t want to even contemplate how that can be trimmed.

    • @TheToledoTrumpton
      @TheToledoTrumpton Рік тому

      There are two ways this can be fixed.
      1. The Government moves from a deficit to a surplus budget.
      2. The debt ceiling is raised.
      The Republicans favor the first, the Democrats favor the latter. Neither one wants to default on the debt, but neither is willing to consider the other solution. There are also 2 ways out of the current constitutional crisis that is making America a social and financial disaster.
      1. Politicians of the two major parties start working together for the benefit of American citizens. Government of the people, for the people, by the people, and it not being all about money.
      2. The people realize that the Democrats and Republicans are both equally bad, and hold them both to much higher standards, by voting based on merit not party.
      Quite frankly, I don't hold out a lot of hope.

    • @tshandy1
      @tshandy1 Рік тому

      @@TheToledoTrumpton - "neither is willing to consider the other solution". That is factually incorrect. McCarthy is proposing to raise the debt ceiling if Biden agrees to go along with some spending cuts. Biden refuses to include any spending cuts. Zero. (BTW, I'm not claiming the Republicans don't share equal blame for driving up gov. debt over the last decades. I'm merely pointing out that you've either misunderstood or deliberately misrepresented the current impasse.)

    • @JeanValjean875
      @JeanValjean875 Рік тому

      @TheToledoTrumpton When have the Republicans ever proposed a balanced budget? Most of the debt growth we've seen has been under the Republican Presidents since the 80s. The only president who actually balanced the budget was Clinton.

  • @FreeSpeechisMyRight10
    @FreeSpeechisMyRight10 Рік тому

    Social security shouldn't even be on the table. People paid in their whole working lives for that money.

  • @blackOneTime
    @blackOneTime Рік тому +1

    Wait, is my Veterans Disability Benefits at risk?

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      Those are likely at risk now, nevermind during a shutdown...

  • @JakubBartusiak
    @JakubBartusiak Рік тому

    I don't get why does the US do this show each year. Why not just remove the debt cap, and argue about something more constructive?

  • @RoobieRhoo
    @RoobieRhoo Рік тому

    Look at the 2-year to 10-year spread. These are the bond market inflation expectations. The 10 year is lower suggesting the yield curve is inverted. An inverted yield curve is normally a predictor of a recession, but with inflation well above 2% it may be a sign inflation is coming down, instead. We may avoid a hard landing due to the much needed fiscal stimulus, to complement the massive monetary stimulus since 2008, supporting main street jobs (fiscal policy) while offsetting job losses normally accompanying an increase in the cost of borrowing (monetary policy) as interest rates rise.

  • @amwf_king
    @amwf_king Рік тому

    How dare the government come after me when they are trillions in debt. 😂

  • @Tony-ft4jp
    @Tony-ft4jp Рік тому

    Gold.and silver?

  • @RoobieRhoo
    @RoobieRhoo Рік тому

    The only other option if we do not want to borrow from people who have a ton of money is to tax those who do. We seem to prefer the former and avoid the latter. The rich would rather lend money to the government that have it taxed out of existence.

  • @Utini_1
    @Utini_1 Рік тому

    Is that ROM in the background? How would he handle the debt ceiling crisis? 😂

  • @oppenheim2
    @oppenheim2 Рік тому +5

    There’s no chance the debt ceiling won’t be raised……
    “There's a case to be made that if Congress decides to default on the debt, the president has the power and the obligation to pay it without congressional permission, even if that requires borrowing more money to do so.”

    • @orioles7023
      @orioles7023 Рік тому

      you're right, but ... if we look at the flip side, there's no way that a deal gets done until enough pain is being felt to force one. If Biden were to act unilaterally before an obvious crisis, then he gets a lot of heat for Executive overreach and no credit for solving a crisis. Each side thinks they score points by blaming the other side when it's actually a lose-lose proposition. And there are lots of newly minted Congressmen who have no idea how markets work (they certainly weren't around in 2011). Just saying ... there will be some market jitters first.

    • @oppenheim2
      @oppenheim2 Рік тому +1

      @@orioles7023 As if the insurrection party cares if there is a default or Depression.

    • @debaterforhim
      @debaterforhim Рік тому +1

      Why do you think FedNow is coming out in July? Makes me think they want to come in and "save" us... while simultaneously gaining more control and being the reason the markets crash in the first place, but... let's ignore that... 😅

    • @oppenheim2
      @oppenheim2 Рік тому

      @@debaterforhim As I understand, since the Fed’s goal of getting to 2% will take awhile longer than originally expected and community banks are most impacted currently and for awhile as the Fed keeps rates high and possibly higher it will shorten disruptions…..and REDUCE chances for a crash, which would cause more borrowing.
      There was a systemic crash in 2008 and a pandemic one in 2020 averted from being systemic by the Fed and Congress in 2021.
      Currently, with a divided Congress, one side wants a recession so only the wealthy benefit. Meanwhile, we are in the 4th Industrial Revolution - digitization: AI and robotics being the latest technologies. The other side wants to further it so all benefit. If the debt was such a problem now, a systematic crash would have already happened.

    • @debaterforhim
      @debaterforhim Рік тому

      @oppenheim2 you could be right, I'm a bit more jaded when it comes to our politicians, though... I don't trust either side of the aisle... personally think they made people rely on them during Covid, so it will be easier to transition us to FedNow, and FedNow looks to me like a step toward globalization and the CBDC. It doesn't help my opinion when I see that the WHO is about to take over all our policies for "pandemics."
      But honestly, I could be wrong... I hope I am.

  • @Hhbdr
    @Hhbdr Рік тому

    So what will happen to my money in the bank? I think that is the only question?

  • @GIJO
    @GIJO Рік тому

    If it defaults we all should follow

  • @OminousRooster
    @OminousRooster Рік тому

    Good honest outlook. But the unknown is still there. Can you do a video on CBDC. It’s coming

  • @carlyennis775
    @carlyennis775 Рік тому

    You have to have a hungry buyer to sell-off assets at a decent price. If I were in the buyer’s seat, I’d make sure to get everything I wanted for next to nothing and still crush my competition after I took all their belongings. That’s how you become the next Super Power.

  • @monster-ok9pr
    @monster-ok9pr Рік тому

    If I don't make a mortgage payment in a month, I get a foreclosure notice. Life would be glorious if I were able to accumulate trillions of dollars in debt.

  • @marklewus5468
    @marklewus5468 Рік тому +2

    I’m selling everything, buying physical gold, and burying it in my backyard :) Just joking, I’m doing the same as you. I really appreciate that you’re not one of those UA-cam clickbait doomsayers. As Winston Churchill once said, “Stay calm and KBO…”

  • @yingyang1008
    @yingyang1008 Рік тому

    In debt to who?

  • @GingerM14
    @GingerM14 Рік тому

    The signs above his head look like eyes. 👀

  • @stevemlejnek7073
    @stevemlejnek7073 Рік тому

    If the stock market goes down a third, I will do some Roth conversions.

  • @charleswhite3759
    @charleswhite3759 Рік тому

    hey robby

  • @steveng1413
    @steveng1413 Рік тому

    Debt ceiling default, if ordinary investor do nothing, they will be broke by the sell down.

  • @lynndowless5152
    @lynndowless5152 Рік тому

    Ain't gonna happen. At the last minute they always come through. No debt default.

  • @murphy9924
    @murphy9924 Рік тому

    The government should file for a chapter of bankruptcy. It'll be fine.

  • @FoursideAssetManagement
    @FoursideAssetManagement Рік тому +1

    Predicting that the stock market will move down is not necessarily a good call. The opposite could occur: investors could theoretically exit the bond market in mass and invest MORE in the stock market: it is predictably irrational. The government is not likely to announce a "default." More likely, it would recharacterize (politicize) the default as a "partial default." I think many would simply see this event as a buying opportunity. The real blowback would be a massive change in American Politics: when Americans lose their money, they are going to demand new politicians in mass.

    • @rosaliethomson4655
      @rosaliethomson4655 Рік тому

      I think the stock market is the only game in town at this time. I'm doing O.K. Not complaining.

    • @FoursideAssetManagement
      @FoursideAssetManagement Рік тому

      @@rosaliethomson4655 CDs and Bonds are giving a better yield than many stocks.

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      That has seriously never resulted in "new politicians'.

    • @FoursideAssetManagement
      @FoursideAssetManagement Рік тому

      @@noydbwia we get new politicians all the time: especially when the economy suffers, Americans love to flock to the opposite party.

  • @romecottrell6444
    @romecottrell6444 Рік тому

    The U.S. Government should pay off all my bills 😊.

  • @two_sillys_trap
    @two_sillys_trap Рік тому

    Never waste a crisis, man-made or not. How can the US profit from this US debt default crisis?

  • @EricMalek
    @EricMalek Рік тому

    If the US government defaults, we AS A NATION tell them NO on April 15.

  • @chiefasc1500
    @chiefasc1500 Рік тому

    yo my g this vid was informative as fuck glooks

  • @terrymurtagh8814
    @terrymurtagh8814 Рік тому

    Yah, so 3.7 trillion dollars of tax revenue is just going to stop flowing in. I don't think that is the case.

  • @davidhicks1155
    @davidhicks1155 Рік тому +1

    You have more faith in Washington then I do. It seems like both sides would rather burn the country to the ground rather than make a compromise.

    • @noydbwia
      @noydbwia Рік тому

      You have to remember, they need a catalyst to roll out the CDBC... What better way to do that than destroy the small and medium sized banks through supposed "defaults"? The government isn't going to "default". Period.

  • @RoobieRhoo
    @RoobieRhoo Рік тому +1

    Much of our debt is owned by the US, ourselves, in the form of private and public pensions, social security and Medicare, state and local governments, our financial system including the Federal reserve (~$6 trillion remitting profits to the Treasury), and to support our dollar as the global reserve currency. We owe other nations about $6 trillion, and China only about ~$1 trillion. So, who are we going to default on? Ourselves? The debt is more a measure of our financial wealth and economic power than a ticking time bomb.

  • @Tess-he3qg
    @Tess-he3qg Рік тому

    It will never end because they will not stop spending money on stupid stuff.

  • @eddiekulp1241
    @eddiekulp1241 Рік тому

    Keep borrowing and time will come when all taxes will go to just interest on debt . Economy probably collapse at about 50 %