Loved this discussion and really appreciated Allen and Tori sharing about their neurodivergence. I’m auADHD and it was helpful to hear other people speak of their experiences, I feel less alone. I related to Allen’s rant on trying new foods, I’m similar and have food sensitivities, now navigating being a parent to a kid who has food sensitivities and trying to be better to him instead of what I grew up with (you eat what you get and clear your plate).
Glad I could catch the first 30 mins live, that was a lot of fun. And rewatching the rest over the course of last week was a blast as well, you went on for loooong!! This conversation went in some raw and vulnerable directions that I wasn't expecting, but I am so grateful for how open, honest and self-aware you all are. You inspire me in more ways than you know. You three are all absolute gems, thanks so much for this wonderful video 🥰
Thank you, Esmay! I don't think any of us realized it would go on for so long, but I'm grateful Tori and Allen offered their time. It was wonderful to have such an open-hearted conversation, and I'm so glad you enjoyed it! You're an inspiration as well! ❤️
I always described my favorite trope as “a rag tag group of people with different personalities coming together for a common goal” but “Motley Crew” is a much better way to say it 😂
As a new booktuber this series is so helpful in putting things into perspective! So great! I feel like I don't feel good enough to be on here on Booktube every day and have to fight it to put up a video and keep going through the learning curves.
With all the author/book-related interviews, I have learned to write books exclusively from booktube. Seriously, I can’t understate that. When I publish my books, my main ‘influences/credits’ would be things like Impostor Syndrome, Page Chewing, Chatting with Nutts, Why Read, lectures and interviews with everyone on youtube videos. By that I mean exclusively booktube because I don’t have or use any other social media except for discord channels, which I get links to exclusively off of youtube video description boxes. haha The value in having authors and readers talking with each other about stories is 100% how I’ve been learning to write. This includes the absolute basic concepts like world-building, characters, plot, and the terminology that I had no idea about until watching piles of booktube reviews, breakdowns, lists, and so on. It's also how I've been learning about the subtler nuances like the dynamic between how readers expect certain things to happen in a story while also hoping it surprises them at the same time and how to play with that using tone and pacing and whatever else. For example, that was a cool talk about prose you had. So many great points. That’s exactly what I mean. I’m learning about prose, not by reading, but by you all talking about it in all its depth and dynamics. Once I decided I’d write novels, I immediately started using the long-form video content on this specific platform to learn how to write, and naturally I was drawn to all of the channels that seemingly everyone else around here is connected by through one or two contacts away from each other. Fantasy/sci-fi youtubers. Even with that ‘death in stories’ video, I watched that before watching this Why Read episode, so it's awesome to hear it mentioned here too. Everyone in this community is so connected, and that network is what has allowed me to learn all about the story-telling world while I get into writing. Though I was hoping the ‘scythe’ death carries around would get mentioned because I love the tales about not working the fields during the heat of day and how a wheat-cutting tool became the weapon of choice for a floating cloaked figure. It’s hilarious and I love it. Life is hilarious and I love it.
In the opposite direction. Being ‘malicious’ with comparisons, or thinking the world is 'against' us, or anything else of that nature, are effects of classical ‘belief in separation’ stuff, or however people want to put it. We don’t really need 'studies' done related to people to know that when someone aligns themselves to being in opposition with and division from others, it will obviously make them feel like they're in opposition with and division from others. Every study about people points to it, but it’s kind of innately a part of itself, and that 'belief' obviously gives the platform for that 'against/malicious' stuff to stand. It falls away instantly when the platform falls. It's funny how to humanize someone just means to not separate them from one's own natural interactions, meaning to not segment them off from the inherent relationship of humans being alive together, which is what would be there if a person stopped thinking they were something other than human. The funny part is how it can come to that at all, that we can ‘separate’ someone enough that we need to learn to reshape our perception to see them as they are again, as a human, as part of the whole with us, but it’s definitely a really cool aspect of experience and life. To see that happening with oneself is as fascinating as any other part of being human. To go ‘That person is like this’ then go ‘Wait, I think that? How did I come to that?’ That’s just so cool. Humans are amazing and I love them. It’s the same as people being humble ‘at the top’ is natural. Energy, the universe, operates. It has to work around and for people, supporting them by default, and it doesn’t make mistakes. It literally can’t make mistakes, and it’s based on energy. Meaning those ‘feelings’ which are just energy expressed through us, like what Johanna mentioned of things being healthy for the mind or antagonistic, are what determines how things end up. The world will line up perfectly for every individual because energy by a technicality can’t actually do anything else. It's useless without us! haha It’s pretty cool that people know how that works, but the implications are infinite. Not ‘way bigger than people ever consider’ but actually literally infinite. Re-framing ourselves is just the best, whether it’s opening the mind more or learning more about the context or anything else. It’s awesome. Glad Johanna's is into that stuff and all three of you are so solidly 'lining up' for goodness. It’s beautiful, or as Johanna put it, special.
In that same direction, human interaction is the best. That’s what the expectation stuff is all about that Tori brought up a few times. Approaching with conclusions and the different ‘head-spaces’ when going into anything determines everything, and it's obviously ridiculously significant when it comes to books. Expectations going into a book is funny because it’s exactly like literally everything else in life, but just as so many booktubers talk about it, it’s essentially the basis of a story for any reader. Or rather, it’s the entire foundation of a reader's experience because it completely shapes what a person interprets upon the initial encounter with any experience, and when the objective is to experience an entire story, it’s obviously the determining factor. Again, it’s not ‘the biggest’ factor, but rather it’s ‘the only' factor when it comes to perception, simply because a story is something to experience. That doesn't matter if the person approaches it in an analytical way or plopping oneself into it impressively to feel. The way a person is approaching a story determines the conclusion they will already have when they arrive at the story TO experience that story in the first place. From there, like with any experience, it’s up to us to see how fast those expectations will fall, meaning both how easily and willingly we allow ourselves to change, so we can experience the story in new ways as it goes on. That’s the awesomeness of humans interacting with something. The human changes, or rather the human does, everything with a story through one's own humanity. I think some people might call that something like the 'principle-attribute' relationship of immersion, how the person reading the story and the story coming to life for them as they read it are the same, and can't exist without the other. A story is useless without the reader. An experience doesn't exist without the experiencer. Spontaneity is the best too. Everything is. haha
Thank you so much for contributing to the conversation and sharing all these wonderful insights! I think it's fantastic that you find BookTube a valuable source as a writer. I have a deep appreciation for anyone able to write stories that can elicit a deeper connection with humanity or reframe experiences in creative ways. Cheers!
I wanted to try rj parker, looked up how much to purchase the book in Belgium in english it ranges from 48 to 96 euros for the paperback... Welp not this month. 😅
Goodness! I'm sorry to hear that! The author Allen was referring to is KJ Parker, who often gets mistaken for RJ Barker. I'm not sure if that was who you meant since you wrote "RJ," but I hope you're able to get the books you want in any case!
Just started watching this and you know that if Allen is in the title and he is not there at the beginning of the talk, that means he will crash the conversation later. It's just like having dragons on book covers, that don't mention anything about them in first hundreds of pages, you know it is coming. Now to continue watching and hoping I was not wrong about Allen crashing yet another of Johanna's guest calls . God I love that man.
No, he did not crash the discussion (though he has that special privilege). He was formally invited to this discussion but had a last minute thing come up that made him late. Haha!
Great discussion Johanna, Tori, and Allen! Listening to Allen vent about systemic problems and some of his own idiosyncrasies was extremely cathartic for me😂 Hope everyone has a good day!
As an autistic person, Allen's rants about decision making and not wanting to be a burden around food and unexpected suprises resonates so strongly. Perfectly explains my own issues, and he's right, it is SO stressful and nobody else really comprehends.
I realy liked your discussion on envy i personally have tried every trick to be able to read books any books but i just cant i dont enjoy it just cant do it i want to so badly but i cant and i just hangout on booktube bc peaple are nice here (i know its weird ) and im so envious of peaple who can read so thank for disscussing jelousy and envy.
I'm sorry to hear you're having that struggle! I just got back from spending time with family and a couple of my relatives are in a similar boat (though not in the book community). I think it's much like finding the right type of musician or music genre that appeals to a person. It can take time to find the right genre, author, or story to satisfy that craving, and I hold out hope you will find what you're looking for!
Loved this discussion and really appreciated Allen and Tori sharing about their neurodivergence. I’m auADHD and it was helpful to hear other people speak of their experiences, I feel less alone. I related to Allen’s rant on trying new foods, I’m similar and have food sensitivities, now navigating being a parent to a kid who has food sensitivities and trying to be better to him instead of what I grew up with (you eat what you get and clear your plate).
I'm so happy you felt seen through what Allen and Tori shared. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Glad I could catch the first 30 mins live, that was a lot of fun. And rewatching the rest over the course of last week was a blast as well, you went on for loooong!!
This conversation went in some raw and vulnerable directions that I wasn't expecting, but I am so grateful for how open, honest and self-aware you all are. You inspire me in more ways than you know. You three are all absolute gems, thanks so much for this wonderful video 🥰
Thank you, Esmay! I don't think any of us realized it would go on for so long, but I'm grateful Tori and Allen offered their time. It was wonderful to have such an open-hearted conversation, and I'm so glad you enjoyed it! You're an inspiration as well! ❤️
I always described my favorite trope as “a rag tag group of people with different personalities coming together for a common goal” but “Motley Crew” is a much better way to say it 😂
I've used the "ragtag" description as well! I like "motley crew" as well, but hearing it also makes me think of the 80's band "Motley Crue." 😂
It occurred to me watching this that Allen hates booktube lol. Super uncomfortable 😂.
Hope that's not true! 😂
i love this 🤔☺
Thank you!
Thanks Johanna. This was wonderful. 🥰
Thank you, Chadia! ❤
As a new booktuber this series is so helpful in putting things into perspective! So great! I feel like I don't feel good enough to be on here on Booktube every day and have to fight it to put up a video and keep going through the learning curves.
Thank you so much for watching, Mary! I hope you're able to get past that feeling and know you are welcome on BookTube. Best wishes!
@@Johanna_reads Thank you so much for being so kind and welcoming! Booktube is simply one of the best communities I have ever been a part of!
With all the author/book-related interviews, I have learned to write books exclusively from booktube.
Seriously, I can’t understate that. When I publish my books, my main ‘influences/credits’ would be things like Impostor Syndrome, Page Chewing, Chatting with Nutts, Why Read, lectures and interviews with everyone on youtube videos. By that I mean exclusively booktube because I don’t have or use any other social media except for discord channels, which I get links to exclusively off of youtube video description boxes. haha
The value in having authors and readers talking with each other about stories is 100% how I’ve been learning to write. This includes the absolute basic concepts like world-building, characters, plot, and the terminology that I had no idea about until watching piles of booktube reviews, breakdowns, lists, and so on. It's also how I've been learning about the subtler nuances like the dynamic between how readers expect certain things to happen in a story while also hoping it surprises them at the same time and how to play with that using tone and pacing and whatever else.
For example, that was a cool talk about prose you had. So many great points.
That’s exactly what I mean. I’m learning about prose, not by reading, but by you all talking about it in all its depth and dynamics.
Once I decided I’d write novels, I immediately started using the long-form video content on this specific platform to learn how to write, and naturally I was drawn to all of the channels that seemingly everyone else around here is connected by through one or two contacts away from each other. Fantasy/sci-fi youtubers.
Even with that ‘death in stories’ video, I watched that before watching this Why Read episode, so it's awesome to hear it mentioned here too. Everyone in this community is so connected, and that network is what has allowed me to learn all about the story-telling world while I get into writing.
Though I was hoping the ‘scythe’ death carries around would get mentioned because I love the tales about not working the fields during the heat of day and how a wheat-cutting tool became the weapon of choice for a floating cloaked figure. It’s hilarious and I love it.
Life is hilarious and I love it.
In the opposite direction.
Being ‘malicious’ with comparisons, or thinking the world is 'against' us, or anything else of that nature, are effects of classical ‘belief in separation’ stuff, or however people want to put it. We don’t really need 'studies' done related to people to know that when someone aligns themselves to being in opposition with and division from others, it will obviously make them feel like they're in opposition with and division from others. Every study about people points to it, but it’s kind of innately a part of itself, and that 'belief' obviously gives the platform for that 'against/malicious' stuff to stand. It falls away instantly when the platform falls.
It's funny how to humanize someone just means to not separate them from one's own natural interactions, meaning to not segment them off from the inherent relationship of humans being alive together, which is what would be there if a person stopped thinking they were something other than human.
The funny part is how it can come to that at all, that we can ‘separate’ someone enough that we need to learn to reshape our perception to see them as they are again, as a human, as part of the whole with us, but it’s definitely a really cool aspect of experience and life. To see that happening with oneself is as fascinating as any other part of being human. To go ‘That person is like this’ then go ‘Wait, I think that? How did I come to that?’ That’s just so cool. Humans are amazing and I love them.
It’s the same as people being humble ‘at the top’ is natural.
Energy, the universe, operates. It has to work around and for people, supporting them by default, and it doesn’t make mistakes. It literally can’t make mistakes, and it’s based on energy. Meaning those ‘feelings’ which are just energy expressed through us, like what Johanna mentioned of things being healthy for the mind or antagonistic, are what determines how things end up. The world will line up perfectly for every individual because energy by a technicality can’t actually do anything else. It's useless without us! haha
It’s pretty cool that people know how that works, but the implications are infinite. Not ‘way bigger than people ever consider’ but actually literally infinite.
Re-framing ourselves is just the best, whether it’s opening the mind more or learning more about the context or anything else. It’s awesome.
Glad Johanna's is into that stuff and all three of you are so solidly 'lining up' for goodness. It’s beautiful, or as Johanna put it, special.
In that same direction, human interaction is the best. That’s what the expectation stuff is all about that Tori brought up a few times.
Approaching with conclusions and the different ‘head-spaces’ when going into anything determines everything, and it's obviously ridiculously significant when it comes to books.
Expectations going into a book is funny because it’s exactly like literally everything else in life, but just as so many booktubers talk about it, it’s essentially the basis of a story for any reader. Or rather, it’s the entire foundation of a reader's experience because it completely shapes what a person interprets upon the initial encounter with any experience, and when the objective is to experience an entire story, it’s obviously the determining factor.
Again, it’s not ‘the biggest’ factor, but rather it’s ‘the only' factor when it comes to perception, simply because a story is something to experience. That doesn't matter if the person approaches it in an analytical way or plopping oneself into it impressively to feel. The way a person is approaching a story determines the conclusion they will already have when they arrive at the story TO experience that story in the first place.
From there, like with any experience, it’s up to us to see how fast those expectations will fall, meaning both how easily and willingly we allow ourselves to change, so we can experience the story in new ways as it goes on.
That’s the awesomeness of humans interacting with something. The human changes, or rather the human does, everything with a story through one's own humanity.
I think some people might call that something like the 'principle-attribute' relationship of immersion, how the person reading the story and the story coming to life for them as they read it are the same, and can't exist without the other.
A story is useless without the reader. An experience doesn't exist without the experiencer.
Spontaneity is the best too.
Everything is. haha
Thank you so much for contributing to the conversation and sharing all these wonderful insights! I think it's fantastic that you find BookTube a valuable source as a writer. I have a deep appreciation for anyone able to write stories that can elicit a deeper connection with humanity or reframe experiences in creative ways. Cheers!
Great discussion Joanna…really enjoyed yours and Tori’s input!
Thank you so much, Nancy!
I wanted to try rj parker, looked up how much to purchase the book in Belgium in english it ranges from 48 to 96 euros for the paperback... Welp not this month. 😅
Goodness! I'm sorry to hear that! The author Allen was referring to is KJ Parker, who often gets mistaken for RJ Barker. I'm not sure if that was who you meant since you wrote "RJ," but I hope you're able to get the books you want in any case!
@@Johanna_reads ah no just a mistake in my typing I meant KJ
Johanna, I'd love to see a video essay on social comparison theory!
Thank you! I'll try to organize my thoughts a little better, and see if I can put something together!
Just started watching this and you know that if Allen is in the title and he is not there at the beginning of the talk, that means he will crash the conversation later. It's just like having dragons on book covers, that don't mention anything about them in first hundreds of pages, you know it is coming. Now to continue watching and hoping I was not wrong about Allen crashing yet another of Johanna's guest calls . God I love that man.
No, he did not crash the discussion (though he has that special privilege). He was formally invited to this discussion but had a last minute thing come up that made him late. Haha!
@@Johanna_reads Yeah I saw that and felt stupid for the comment! Love both of you! Great content Johanna keep it up!!
@@MrDaDisha thank you! 😊
Great discussion Johanna, Tori, and Allen! Listening to Allen vent about systemic problems and some of his own idiosyncrasies was extremely cathartic for me😂 Hope everyone has a good day!
Thank you! It was a fun time, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
As an autistic person, Allen's rants about decision making and not wanting to be a burden around food and unexpected suprises resonates so strongly. Perfectly explains my own issues, and he's right, it is SO stressful and nobody else really comprehends.
Thank you so much for sharing that! I'm sorry you share those struggles, but I'm glad that Allen's rants made you feel understood.
I realy liked your discussion on envy i personally have tried every trick to be able to read books any books but i just cant i dont enjoy it just cant do it i want to so badly but i cant and i just hangout on booktube bc peaple are nice here (i know its weird ) and im so envious of peaple who can read so thank for disscussing jelousy and envy.
I'm sorry to hear you're having that struggle! I just got back from spending time with family and a couple of my relatives are in a similar boat (though not in the book community). I think it's much like finding the right type of musician or music genre that appeals to a person. It can take time to find the right genre, author, or story to satisfy that craving, and I hold out hope you will find what you're looking for!
Such great conversation!!!
Thank you so much!
Hail Libertas! Had to subscribe when I seen the beanie
Hooray! So glad to hear that!
is that a Luffie hat on Allen's shelf?
It could be! haha!
Pathological Demand Avoidance.
That’s not what I thought PDA stood for! Haha!
:D