This is why the entertainment industry hates the introduction of social media & self-promotion, it cuts out their gatekeeping & puts more power in the hands of the artists
While on the topic, I never seen anyone as greedy as Taylor Swift. Lawyers don't even make as much as her, they do longer hours and are the biggest crooks.
And old heads get mad at the youngsters for selling their music independently and making more than they did in half the time it took them to get paid correctly.. Instead of them being mad at the record label who stole from them.. Plus regarding Taylor Swift the rapper Cam'ron said he wasn't making money off his old albums so he figured out that after 8 years legally you can get to make the same album the same way and get almost 100% of the royalties off the Remastered album.. And it's nothing the record company can do about it..
This is a fundamental business principle which applies across most industries. Those at the top make all the money and those at the bottom do all the work.
Unfortunately you are right and that’s exactly why capitalism as we know it does not work. These stories are perfect anecdotes for the bigger concept of capitalism vs. socialism. Capitalism = record labels get paid Socialism = artists get paid The question for everyone out there is: which would you choose?
the problem with this narrative is that Michael Jackson and Taylor Swift aren't at the bottom, they are literally the top 1% of artists. They ARE the top, they're just getting robbed. It's not like they're a cashier at McDonald's, it's more like if a CEO was making $15/hr while all the shareholders were making millions. They literally do none of the work after a certain point, they're just fleecing.
@@RobotDCLXVIsocialism only works if everyone contributes equally. Unfortunately most people want to have “passive income” or some other stream that requires little to no effort.
@@TheSwedishSousChef yeah that's the part that people who think they're socialists always forget about. Without everyone contributing equally (or as close as possible) then it falls apart. Capitalism can stand up to the pressures differently because one person is making a lot of money while others suffer. Is it fair? Probably not. Is it the only thing that really, genuinely works? Yep.
He didn’t buy half of Sony, he merged his publishing company w/ Sony’s publishing company. But you’re right bout him being a smooth criminal lol savvy business move
@@jeremiahrobinson3745 that is the very definition of buying half of Sony. With the merger he now owned half of their catalog and they owned half of his catalog as their companies became a single corporation known as Sony-ATV, which started buying other major catalogs like Famous Music and EMI.
He got a shit load of flack because he was exposing that artists were getting robbed to the public. Snoop and everyone else are just continuing Prince's legacy of making sure people know the truth and how to properly position themselves if they're joining the music game.
The 90’s to be exact, 88 or 89, is when he most likely figured out the industry was bs. He started marking the word Slave on his cheek between 93-94, and officially left Warner Bros 95.
I cant say robbed if its in the contract. But they are being expolited in some cases. They issue i see with alot of rappers some only rap, no beats, no maketing, no deals, no merch, not setting up tours, no mixing, or soundtrack placing. Some probably don't even upload. Its hard to say artist sould get more when some just sing or rap on a track, but never actually get the songs to generate money. If the product is a song they are [low] 10->50% [high] the labor of it. And 0% of the sells and market labor
Most people don’t know that the way most artists make money is through concert tours. Even then, the venue and Ticketmaster/Live Nation are getting the lion’s share of the money. The hitmakers still can earn a lot if they’re an independent artist or if they start their own label.
I was literally thinking about this, and you answered it. Thanks. I was like, so maybe that's why they have been hitting those tours up so much. But still, someone else's hand is always in your pocket before you.
This is why so many artists fight to go independent or start that way. The amount of people with their hands in your pockets after the album ships is insane
It's not just music, or even entertainment. People need to realize EVERY business is inherently evil like this. The owners of Walmart and Kellogs and Mcdonalds and every other company ever are no different. The CEOs and Executives of EVERY company will ALWAYS make more money than the Workers, Labourers and Employees, because people who have power are selfish and want it all for themselves. Society is designed like a metaphorical ladder, and everybody is fighting to be at the top while pushing everyone else off to fall to the bottom. Wake up and fight the system that you're all choosing to allow to exist.
the problem is, to put simply, they can't. It's not easy, specially ifyou're on a contract already. I worked with a band that tried to break free from a big label, and the result was not good, they just got "blacklisted" and can't sell some of their own music
Michael Jackson was Business Savy and knew alot about the business at a very young age Mike had game and he outsmarted the industry and the labels him and Prince made historic moves.
@@soundzznetworkno HE WAS A GREAT BUSINESS MINDED BUT horribly spent money without thinking twice ( ESPECIALLY ON SHOPPING ) & in the 90s and early 2000s, lots of greedy lying mf s had sued him for lots of money cause of that he had to pay to lot of LAWYERS & court cases even though he IS INNOCENT..... so in the end of his this earth life he had debts more than his incomes!!!! SO SAD !
He was also a big spender which added to his troubles. Both he and Madonna did a massive sold out tour that left them in the hole because they overspent and their touring managers didn't manage their funds properly.
@@andrewwitham8493I'm not a Taylor fan but you're just hating. Like, her knowing her shit and u liking her music are two separate things but u can't help urself
I read Richard Bransons book. Very eye opening about the record industry. He would sign 30 new promising artists and would be lucky if one was profitable. He said that soundtrack to the Exorcist, Tubular Bells carried the company for a long time.
same thing happened to teena marie...they take the real talent and put them in contracts and then keep them from recording because they set the bar too high...
@@suerte03211978 kanye doesn’t want that also, when he said. stuff about prince and Michael jackson I think he’s speaking on some stuff we don’t know in the industry. maybe thats why he won’t take it anyways cuz it would be prince and michael all over again.
I mean, they fronted the money while these people were nothing. Record labels invest money into artists that end up going nowhere all the time. If they can’t get a decent return, why would they invest? It’s not a charity.
That’s why singers are always touring. They have to. They owe the label because they are owned by the label. Even the old school A-Listers like The Rolling Stones, Diana Ross and Patti LaBelle. They are worth $300 million and still touring, and they’re damn near 80 years old.
The stones tour because they want to. I don’t feel sorry for millionaires. Football players only make a small percentage of the revenue as well but they wouldn’t have a platform if it wasn’t for the owners etc. same as the labels.
Many tour in their later years because of the high costs their lavish lifestyles produce. They go continually to the finest restaurants, the best hotels in town, travel in private jets, buy expensive designer clothes, all kind of other luxury items. And you want this to go on for the rest of your life and it costs millions of $. Sure, than work until you drop.
That's not how it works. Artists are always touring because they make the most money off of touring. The reason they make less on record sales is because the label pays for all the costs associated with the record, the label takes all of the risk in recording the album and have to cover their overhead for the business operations that support and promote the artist, therefore they also take more of the profit. They don't own the artist and the artist doesn't owe them money, they do own the recordings and license to the songs.
And then they go on to explain that they have to pay the managers, they had to pay the venues, security, PR, marketing etc etc. so by the end of it they had a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of which they ALSO had to split 3 ways.
Snoop is absolutely right that this is how the industry is set up. The artist doesn't make any money off of their first record deal, and that's because they're willing to make that compromise, at the time, in order to try and make it big. Or, they just get geeked about signing the record deal and don't read the contract at all. The company gives them a bonus, they spend all the money because it's more than they've ever seen in their lives, and suddenly they're fighting with the record company for a better deal when everything takes off. This was why Taylor Swift tours so much, even after she did the remasters--because concerts and merch sales are where the artists tend to actually make most of their money.
@@CanariasCanariass The label is supposed to provide the promotional support to get sales churning. The artist is betting on the fame allowing them to get a subsequent better deal, or at least enough leverage to re-do the existing contract. It's why you see so many artists get in legal fights with their labels.
@@JazBumbkinsThat’s why a lot of artists, including many that you probably love, don’t make enough money. Performers used to make some money off of record sales. Now, that source has all but dried up. If they don’t, or can’t tour, they’re going to go broke eventually.
@@emeryking1739 I am not sure in all cases but in the case of Taylor Swift it was something like the record company had the publishing/distro rights to those albums but she wrote the songs and had the performance rights. So the company owned the rights to the recordings from those albums and could always sell more from those master recordings but since she legally owned the compositions themselves she could just rerecord them as new albums.
Everyone crying over here but Michael Jackson did the exact same thing to artists. Look at the howie interview where Michael told his friend and one of the biggest artists that its just business. I get that blxks aren’t the most intelligent or very business smart except for slinging rocks, but come on.
There was a TLC movie scene (which they took from a Lisa “Left Eye” Lopes interview) that completely breaks down the whole points system and how it works. It’s sad actually. It explained how TLC could be at the Grammys with the #1 record in the country and be flat broke at the same time. Most artists make money off endorsements and touring, not off actual record sales.
But thankfully because he had ownership in all the other bits of publishing his estate made over $2 billion after his death. His estate makes over $368 million a year
No body is saying it didnt, snoops just using taylor swift as a example, not because shes only example but most likely because shes 1 of the most well known popstars in the world.
@@jukii.mp3 Exactly, Snoop is correct about the general points, but made a mess of the Tay point. She wanted to buy those masters, and due to 'less than savoury' exec's, she re-recorded them instead. That she had Songwriter Copyright was what allowed her to, being different to Publishing Copyright.
@@lavenderbee3611 A song/composition has two sets of rights: the writer's share and the publisher's share. The writer's share is the right attributed to the songwriter/composer and the publisher's share refers to the share of revenue for which admin rights can be attributed to a music publishing administrator such as Sony Music Publishing. Taylor rights as the songwriter/composer permitted her to re-record her albums and redistribute them under a different publisher, maybe her own publishing company.
The thing that people never remember is that a lot of the music business started with the backing or by the mafia and other criminal organizations back in the day.
@@VilaToro64 i know it’s late to be responding but because she write the songs she owns the lyrics, the label just owns the specific recording of her voice. So she can use her lyrics to re record every song and technically with the deal she has with her new label, she owns it 100% now (lyrics and the recording)
Well what he is actually saying is that the label, today, is a derivative of the system created years ago. His point is to say that the label didn't just start behaving this way. It's been this way.
No, he just said its a system then explained what the system was. Its easy to see them as the bad guy when you have a full understanding of whats really going on, yet every artist buys into the same system at some point. He didn't really give opinions, just facts. The issue is that the facts paint a terrible picture, but it is what it is.
Yep. Record labels are absolutely awful. I was in the scene from 03’-11’ in a couple decent bands (my last band signed with an indie label, equal vision records, with major label distributing, good shit). I was friends with a band from NY called “The Sleeping”. They signed to the biggest indie label at the time, Victory Records. My old band used to tour with them, and the singer actually produced and sang on our 2 EP’s. Super cool guys. We played a weekend with them after they got signed and I was talking to the guitarist about the label. By that point, they’d had a song on guitar hero, covered “staying alive” for the “Crank” movie soundtrack, we’re on NFL Madden, and several other tv shows and games. They never saw one penny from any of it. Because guitar hero was so big at the time, their album sold fairly well, and they barely got a couple thousand for the sales. For anyone wondering, the song is called “don’t hold back”. The owner of victory ended up selling the label for I believe around 30 million. So many incredible bands got totally fucked because of them. They sing bands to multiple album deals, pay for them to record and then pretty much take all of the earnings. It’s absolute bullshit. The only labels I know of that treat their bands right are labels started by other band members who know what it’s like. Epitaph records and equal vision records are pretty good labels. But screw it, labels are becoming obsolete these days. Just put your music on UA-cam and do the independent thing. Keep all your money and the rights to your songs.
Heres the issue... You are a adult & you made the *CHOICE* to agree to there terms because YOU either didn't have funds to produce your own music or YOU didn't want to risk losing your own money if the record flops so its them taking the risk so they get the bigger reward I believe these deals are totally unfair for the artists but if u decide to sign the agreement to there terms then u dont get to turn around & blame them for your *CHOICE to sign the deal 🤷
But you need the label to get bigger. I think its insanely hard to get in the lime light if you dont have those label connections and you cant really promote your shit either because it costs big money.
@@ccink3931these contracts are purposefully written to confuse you and they have their guys pretending to help you out and that it's a good deal. If something is dishonest than by no means is it fair business.
Miley Cyrus is another example, Disney was not going to let her go so she created a fake character doing some weird shyt during grammies and rapping about drugs and doing sexual shyt. And those were the number one rule Disney does not tolerate. And now she is free and back to herself with some really good music. She is a very smart woman.
Artists have been doing this for years. OutKast who had the highest selling rap album ever called out labels back in 1996, GZA from Wu tang one of the biggest groups in history also did. And imo all of those 3 are bigger legends than snoop
Some people need a familiar face to tell them something. It's just like taking the word over an old friend over a stranger. Celebrities in the mind of the average person occupy that same kind of familiar space.
That's when the established labels go to the radios and streaming services and have those artists blackballed. There's a reason why the system hasn't been changed. The ones with all the power won't allow it.
@@Nellosphere you can do it when you have money. When you dont however its hard to come up with the money needed to launch a career. Historically labels took a bigger cut because they fronted up the cash and took on all the financial risk of launching an artists career.
@Pi_r8 this is not about naming the lucky few who got recognised and hit the sweet spot or have ventured into music with some significant financial backing. I'm a musician and the times I had to decide between a toilet roll and a pack of pasta in first 10 years would make one just end it all.. or sign ANY contract that would be coming my way for that matter.. all your name dropping is gibberish to me, you've never walked the walk so your and OP commenter's idealistic approach is a wishful thinking at the most diplomatic way saying it
💯% or sign up to sell your soul, they’ll own you for life! You’ll either be Micheal Jackson’d or tour till you are dead like Mic Jaggar Roger water’s etc etc. Imagine being owned by Babylon
It’s what ruined his friendship with whatever Beatle it was that he hung out with. The Beatle gave him the idea and pointed at the fact that he owned his own music … which Michael then bought out from under him.
@@zero11010 This is what these corporations do to have full control over the artists anyway. Beatles should've learned to protect their music in a private trust because public courts cannot infringe on trusts. Mike doing what he did is totally fine. These artists get screwed over all the time.
@@FlipFreedom1997 sounds like you should look into the history of artists and their labels. This stuff has been going on for … what … 100 years? Every major label does the same stuff. You think a group of 20 year olds in the 1960s should have known to ignore their label and start a trust and demand control and that their label would just …. Go along with it?
@@zero11010 This is something everyone should know but people are led astray. Also, I'm not saying as if they SHOULD'VE KNOWN, just saying it so people know they can protect any of their assets.
He didn't say MJ didn't make money. He said he wasn't making dollars. However, Michael probably was making dollars. He knew the game. He wasn't just a singer. He was songwriter, producer, etc.
But Michael was the first to force the record companies to give the highest percentage per record/album! He broke down/through many barriers before the industry thieves got together to destroy him! His legacy should be studied in colleges as business models/principles 😊
He's so underrated by today's generation and so unfairly hated, especially because of greedy media, tabloids, filthy press, and also two cock-liars, and they're not only ones, who's tried and still trying to make money by falsely accusing Michael Jackson's name. I hope that when biopic movie will be released, this circus will end and the name of the King of Pop will be restored again in the eyes of those who believed the lies and rumors. #mjinnocent #mjnotguilty #mjwasframed #mjisnotguilty
Michael was also the guy that bought a lot of music of artist without them knowing. He bought the Beatles catalogue from a shit recordlable for example and sold their music to be used in commercials. Paul (the artist and thus owner in your logic) called him up - Michael had contacted Paul to make a song with him few years earlier - if he could please stop selling songs like “revolution” to companies like Nike😂. You know how Michael replied? “Oh that’s just business”…. I hate to break it to you, but Michael was buying artists songs at the highest highest level. He’s became thieve you are talking about.
Taylor’s Version is not a remaster, it’s an entirely new recording from scratch. She owns the songs outright (i.e. the musical notes and lyrics), but they own literally any sound recorded by their equipment as well as all the artwork made for the originals. They’d still own a remix/remaster/re-release which is why she had to completely re-recorded everything from scratch, including new album art. It’s an insane amount of work, but a genius long-run strategy.
@@doesntdoitokNot quite. Labels own the masters, but the artists owns the songs. Her brilliant decision to completely re-record every last note from scratch with her own money means the label doesn’t get a dime. It cost her tens of millions to do that, but she can afford it.
This is why I love that we have social media. So many more artists are coming out of the woodworks just posting funny shorts to advertise and the industry is so far behind cause they don't get it. Stay independent my friends and keep creating, never stop.
@@PopCapitalist Sadly true. I saw a video with the body cams on. There were no vomit in the elevator or the hallway where they placed his body. The amount of fentanyl - both in his liver and stomach content - would have made anyone vomit or at last foaming around the mouth. His face looked like he was sleeping (but with a greyish tint) and that's not how an OD looks. suspish!
Facts, MJ made most of his money by buying the rights to the songs of other bands like the Beatles. Ironically, the advice to invest in other bands was given to him by Paul McCartney, and once MJ outbid him on the Beatles songs, their friendship was terminated by Paul
And record companies used to give artists a loan when they’d sign up, rack up that interest. Many artists would have a “breaking even” celebration when they finally paid it off, often a few albums into their career.
Not everybody is going to do the same quality of research, and these people want you to stay locked into what you're watching instead of having to disengage to look up what he said. And the example he brought up was an excellent jumping point to give an idea of what he was talking about.
The vast majority of profits should go to the artists who make the music. The recording industry should be paid a fair share for their service, and that's it.
No, the artist gets a PERCENTAGE of the PROFITS. Artists are owned by their label, you wouldn't (normally) give something you own the bigger share. That doesn't make financial sense.
No. It may seem like that should be the case but the hardest part in that industry is distribution and marketing. There are TONS of great independent artists rn in YT and Spotify but you don't see them breaking through and making big $$$ getting radio play. Do you ever wonder why? Lol. It's not the label's fault that these artists signed bad contracts. If it's a bad deal that you "feel like a slave", which is an absurd statement, then don't sign or live an ultra lavish lifestyle spending all that money. Re-invest in yourself until you can pay for your own studio, distribution, etc. and own your Masters.
The music business is the ONLY market where you can get away with this BS. They actually have the power if they stood together to make a change but everyone is too worried about their own bag to pull it off.
I just watched an interview with Holly Johnson, lead singer of Frankie Goes to Hollywood. He touched on this subject. In his day, he got paid because of album sales. With music streaming, artists aren’t making money. The industry is making it hard for artists to get their bag. It’s also why you see those older classic bands hit the road again. If they want money, performing live is where it’s at.
Knowledge is key here. You can record and mix your own for next to nothing these days. You can release your own album to all platforms for about 25 dollars a year. You can pay for professional ad campaign creators for like 300. Learn how to do things at a young age so by the time you hit 30 you don't need to rely on this massive system (with 100s of employees to pay)
@@amzidoeseverything Russ is another independent artist who's extremely transparent about how much he makes as an independent artist. He's got lives breaking down how he went from making a few bucks a month on his music to making over $100k per month from his music. Subscribe since we're going to be doing a video on him soon. Probably one of my favorite independent artist case studies
At one point it made sense when music wasent such a large part of society for the label to make a lot of the funds because they needed to keep the lights on and fund their clientele but nowadays there’s more than enough money being made for the artists to get a bigger cut without the prices of things rising
They all all made so much more money than litterally people in other professions. They all had these mansions and cars and what not, while others make 5 figures a year.
Being signed to a label seems like taking out student loans. They are loaning you the money to make you a star. You have to pay them back through touring concerts albums etc. The goal should not be to stay with a record company forever (ie taking out student loans forever) but to become a household name, pay them back by completing the terms of the contract, then use your star power and the few coins you made to have your own businesses and manage your own affairs.
Well said , that’s the business see before the general public, we only see the finish product, we were deceive just as much as the artist are now we get see how everything thing work it’s a system they have people who write the song produce choreograph the dances that the artist do , it’s a team of people but we only see the artist , but mows that’s has changed what’s been done in the dark has come to light , they want you to be famous , because if your a hit then they making money , the artist is the work horse ,
That's the name of the game in this world we live in. Anytime you hire anyone to do any kind of work for YOU, whether it is big or small they will SCR3W Y0U 0VER more than one ways... LOL... If Snoop Dogg had owned/ran his own RECORD LABEL and distributed his copies of records across the country from coast to coast and around the world all by HIMSELF, Snoop Dogg would be BILLIONS of DOLLAR RICHER instead of only having $400 million dollar in his BANK ACCOUNT(s)... LMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And this is why performers absolutely have to go on tour...I think I heard once that only the top 4 songs on the charts might make any "real money" from sales (at least back when record stores were alive)
They go on tour to substain lavish lifesyle that costs millions of $ every year. These people just can‘t settle at $100k/year life so they are slaves of their own greed.
@siamsa69 That's why it was great it was MJ that brought the publishing. That's what happens when an artist is involved in the transaction for buying rights, they treat other artists with respect because they were artists.
There is an incredible documentary called "Bleeding Audio" about a pop punk band from the mid 2000s named The Matches. It focuses on their struggle to make any money and the stress it put on the band, despite the fact they loved playing music. It really opened my eyes to the imbalance in musical careers. I highly suggest it to anyone, regardless of if you like the music the band plays or not, as the story is incredible regardless.
Yup you’re right. That’s why all the artists are new and young. And even old artists don’t know to audit the deals they’re in because the labels are notorious for keeping extra money from artists
Man this ain't the first time I've heard this, a lot of these record labels take advantage of their artists and don't pay them what they're worth, TLC was a prime example of this.
27:36 Correction, the 1-10 is espade, the arancar. Gin, Tosen, Aizen are Shinigami so as far as we know they don't count. So there is still 3 espada above Ulquiora.
And once you take on the cost of what it takes to sustain a so-called "popular/hit" artist, you'll finally see it from the side of the shareholders when you have to pay for all those expenses most of the artists never tell you were spent on them in the first place.
@@keepmoving2023-ku7nb That's exactly what labels tend to splurge on. Marketing is super expensive. Studios are expensive. Music videos are expensive. So on and so forth.
Snoop is not lying at all. These artists are not making money like that. Yes, they make more money than us (for the most part) but in reality, they're only making the label wealthy.
The world's best musician and dancer Michael Jackson. His style of dancing and singing music never seems childish. He always sang music in deep voice, so his songs are hit and catchy. Moreover he always wrote teachable music. He was the only person in the world who performed dance-music together in front of live audience. May her soul rest in peace'''🇧🇩🎵🎧🇧🇩
The record label takes all of the risk. There are several artists they sign who don't end up very popular so they lose money on that deal. It's the nature of business.
All these aspiring artists need to take a course on music finance so when a contract comes their way, they understand what they were offered and what they can ask the label.
Yes, labels make a lot of money - probably too much. Also, the act that becomes big is paying for the 9 acts that the label shelled out money on that didn’t have a hit. There are nuances in this.
Michael was the highest paid per album sold in the 80’s-90’s he was making I believe close to $4 per album which was never heard of before in the 80’s .
Michael made 1 dollar per album sold which is why he went to court to get 2 dollars. The record company still made 8 dollars. Basically, the record companies take 90% every time an album is sold, even today.
@@demetricwilliams6864 Michael took them to court in 1983. You're talking about something that occurred in 1995 (when Michael finally owned 50% of Sony/ATV music publishing, including his own).
It's obviously been a system that takes advantage of artists, but labels also put up all the money and take all the risk. How many artists turn out to be crap? Walk into any record exchange, and 90% of the albums are crap. That's 90% losses. Somebody paid for that. Not every label is filled with scumbags.
For him being so down on Prince at one time, he sure is picking up the mantle. But even then, Prince wasn't the first one, he was just the first one to put a spotlight on it.
For any artist who doesn't get it: if you sign a 360 deal of $2Mil and the label wants 3 albums, You've literally sold them 3 non existent LPs for $666K Each. Why the fuck would they let you OWN that or let run off without fullfiling the deal?
Well, to be fair. most folks who join record labels did so because they would have made ZERO money if they didn't. Publicity was everything back then, so unless you have a means to manufacture and distribute, you had no way of putting your music out there.
I literally just said the same thing in one of the comments as a reply,your 💯 PERCENT correct.Thats why I said don't even get me started with Diddy🙄 bcuz I'm almost positive he had involvement in Biggie and Ppl as death.Im a BeyStan but I wish 👑BEY stayed away from him,I know Aaliyahs passing was a set up I feel deep in my spirit,I'm just glad one of my favorite rappers Eminem and Beyonce were smart enough to own their own labes 💪
With mj.. he actually was gonna buy out sony.. he even said it with all of his music rights cuz he already earned it at the time. But they didn't give the man his roses here on earth... they instead took him outta here..... sadly. Rip🐐🕊🎶
@@Areuthium Just because Kanye is a bit crazy doesn't mean it's not possible. People who've made it to billionaire status can quickly make it back up there again because they've already proven that they can do it
Yeah. Anyone that's watch multiple episodes of behind the music knows this due to all the artist telling the stories of how they got played by the industry
This is why the entertainment industry hates the introduction of social media & self-promotion, it cuts out their gatekeeping & puts more power in the hands of the artists
While on the topic, I never seen anyone as greedy as Taylor Swift. Lawyers don't even make as much as her, they do longer hours and are the biggest crooks.
And old heads get mad at the youngsters for selling their music independently and making more than they did in half the time it took them to get paid correctly.. Instead of them being mad at the record label who stole from them.. Plus regarding Taylor Swift the rapper Cam'ron said he wasn't making money off his old albums so he figured out that after 8 years legally you can get to make the same album the same way and get almost 100% of the royalties off the Remastered album.. And it's nothing the record company can do about it..
Middle business gets REALLY angry when the farmer and the shopkeeper start chatting...
The gatekeepers own social media🤷♂️💯
@@kenrickkahnOH WOW…THANKS 4 THE INFO! I WAS WONDERING HOW REMASTERING AN ALBUM WORKED! 😇💕👌🏾
Man, it's so cool to hear Snoop legitimately talk business.
That’s why I had to make a short of this. Snoop is an amazing OG, so it’s cool to hear his perspective on running in the music business
He's a businessman. Not to mention his friend Tupac studied Marx and Stalin economic theory
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 I didn’t know he did that
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 except Marxist Economics ain't real lmao
He's good
For the record. Micheal made 131 million while the record label made 4 billion off of Thriller
Are you serious?
@@PopCapitalist Yep
Wtf 🤯🤯😶🌫️
With a B fuck 🤯🤯🤯
That's crazy 💀💀💀 What's soo good about singing, dancing and performing for millions of ppl, if u aren't even getting paid ur worth?
This is a fundamental business principle which applies across most industries. Those at the top make all the money and those at the bottom do all the work.
Unfortunately you are right and that’s exactly why capitalism as we know it does not work. These stories are perfect anecdotes for the bigger concept of capitalism vs. socialism.
Capitalism = record labels get paid
Socialism = artists get paid
The question for everyone out there is: which would you choose?
No, it's not fundamental (necessary). It's just the established norm.
the problem with this narrative is that Michael Jackson and Taylor Swift aren't at the bottom, they are literally the top 1% of artists. They ARE the top, they're just getting robbed. It's not like they're a cashier at McDonald's, it's more like if a CEO was making $15/hr while all the shareholders were making millions. They literally do none of the work after a certain point, they're just fleecing.
@@RobotDCLXVIsocialism only works if everyone contributes equally. Unfortunately most people want to have “passive income” or some other stream that requires little to no effort.
@@TheSwedishSousChef yeah that's the part that people who think they're socialists always forget about. Without everyone contributing equally (or as close as possible) then it falls apart. Capitalism can stand up to the pressures differently because one person is making a lot of money while others suffer. Is it fair? Probably not. Is it the only thing that really, genuinely works? Yep.
They’re basically like agents. But instead of taking a 20% cut, they give you the 20% cut and tell you it’s the “cost of doing business.”
Or 96% cut?
It's more like 5%
You wish it was 20%. Artists would be swimming in cash if it was a fraction of that
More like 0.04 cents on the dollar..
@@nbarealtalker if you can lease out concert halls , equipment , technicians , lighting , promoters , roadies and security -go right ahead
That’s why Michael Jackson bought half of Sony Music. He became the record company 😄 what a Smooth Criminal 🤭😄👑
He didn’t buy half of Sony, he merged his publishing company w/ Sony’s publishing company. But you’re right bout him being a smooth criminal lol savvy business move
@@jeremiahrobinson3745 that is the very definition of buying half of Sony. With the merger he now owned half of their catalog and they owned half of his catalog as their companies became a single corporation known as Sony-ATV, which started buying other major catalogs like Famous Music and EMI.
And they also killed him
This, snoop isn’t telling a lot of the story. Jackson owned a ton of all of Sony records and was making money off of every album they released.
That's the Reason for His Death !!!
Prince spoke about this in the 80's and he got a shit load of flack for it. He said artists were getting robbed
He got a shit load of flack because he was exposing that artists were getting robbed to the public. Snoop and everyone else are just continuing Prince's legacy of making sure people know the truth and how to properly position themselves if they're joining the music game.
That's why they ended him.
The 90’s to be exact, 88 or 89, is when he most likely figured out the industry was bs. He started marking the word Slave on his cheek between 93-94, and officially left Warner Bros 95.
I cant say robbed if its in the contract. But they are being expolited in some cases.
They issue i see with alot of rappers some only rap, no beats, no maketing, no deals, no merch, not setting up tours, no mixing, or soundtrack placing. Some probably don't even upload.
Its hard to say artist sould get more when some just sing or rap on a track, but never actually get the songs to generate money. If the product is a song they are [low] 10->50% [high] the labor of it. And 0% of the sells and market labor
Flack from who gtfoh
Most people don’t know that the way most artists make money is through concert tours. Even then, the venue and Ticketmaster/Live Nation are getting the lion’s share of the money. The hitmakers still can earn a lot if they’re an independent artist or if they start their own label.
I was literally thinking about this, and you answered it. Thanks. I was like, so maybe that's why they have been hitting those tours up so much. But still, someone else's hand is always in your pocket before you.
Until they introduced 360 deals and they make money off that too
Prince knew that shit.
He was trying to tell em , and look what happened to him .
Own your masters then the masters wanna kill you.. dam shame.
most of prince music sounds bad and dated
@@travishylton6976Maybe you need to get a better sound system, and then listen to it!!!🙄
I've seen Prince, Michael, and T-Pain all talking about how manipulative the industry is.
Fr he was tryna warn everyone back in the day
This is why so many artists fight to go independent or start that way. The amount of people with their hands in your pockets after the album ships is insane
It's not just music, or even entertainment. People need to realize EVERY business is inherently evil like this. The owners of Walmart and Kellogs and Mcdonalds and every other company ever are no different. The CEOs and Executives of EVERY company will ALWAYS make more money than the Workers, Labourers and Employees, because people who have power are selfish and want it all for themselves. Society is designed like a metaphorical ladder, and everybody is fighting to be at the top while pushing everyone else off to fall to the bottom. Wake up and fight the system that you're all choosing to allow to exist.
You mean the people actually writing the songs and playing the instruments?
the problem is, to put simply, they can't. It's not easy, specially ifyou're on a contract already. I worked with a band that tried to break free from a big label, and the result was not good, they just got "blacklisted" and can't sell some of their own music
most wouldn't sell 1000 copys lol they need them more than record labels need them
@@alphanerd7221No, they mean record executives.
The labels also dictate to the artist what they will and will not do. That is why PINK left and wrote a song about it.
That’s why they’re pretty much slaves
Yeah, Pink doesn't wanna be a stupid girl
@@PopCapitalist youre joking right?
But he doesn't know shit about it
@PopCapitalist best payed slaves in history. Why don't you send snoop some money if you think he needs more. You're a fool
Right. Royalties is everywhere even in book writing. The company distributing your work makes most money regardless of profession.
Michael Jackson was Business Savy and knew alot about the business at a very young age Mike had game and he outsmarted the industry and the labels him and Prince made historic moves.
MJ was a horrible business man. That's why he ended up bankrupt.
But it cost him his life.😢
@@soundzznetworkno HE WAS A GREAT BUSINESS MINDED BUT horribly spent money without thinking twice ( ESPECIALLY ON SHOPPING ) & in the 90s and early 2000s, lots of greedy lying mf s had sued him for lots of money cause of that he had to pay to lot of LAWYERS & court cases even though he IS INNOCENT..... so in the end of his this earth life he had debts more than his incomes!!!! SO SAD !
He was also a big spender which added to his troubles. Both he and Madonna did a massive sold out tour that left them in the hole because they overspent and their touring managers didn't manage their funds properly.
@@xejelah Proof?
Taylor Swift knows her shit
Yes she does
No he doesn't 😂
And still manages to write the lamest songs. 😅
She's also the only one not caught up in that cryptocurrency lawsuit even though they offered her $100m to promote it.
@@andrewwitham8493I'm not a Taylor fan but you're just hating. Like, her knowing her shit and u liking her music are two separate things but u can't help urself
Snoop got a point. That's why Michael went into acquiring published songs like the Beatles Catalog.
Yup, and snoop is getting in that game now. That’s why he brought Death Row Records
And Eminem's catalogue at one point
He did that because these people were talking how he was a child abuser
@@PopCapitalist Exactly!
Michael made $1.5 Billion off of other’s people’s music
I read Richard Bransons book. Very eye opening about the record industry. He would sign 30 new promising artists and would be lucky if one was profitable. He said that soundtrack to the Exorcist, Tubular Bells carried the company for a long time.
yeah people are dellusional
its not a non profit charity
its a business and the cost
of doing this business is astronomical
Prince has been telling us about this long before he passed on.
Reason they were both silenced. Don't believe they died just like that.
@@suerte03211978kanye speaked the truth that time he could have been another prince by the way he's speaking right now.
same thing happened to teena marie...they take the real talent and put them in contracts and then keep them from recording because they set the bar too high...
@@suerte03211978 kanye doesn’t want that also, when he said. stuff about prince and Michael jackson I think he’s speaking on some stuff we don’t know in the industry. maybe thats why he won’t take it anyways cuz it would be prince and michael all over again.
I mean, they fronted the money while these people were nothing. Record labels invest money into artists that end up going nowhere all the time. If they can’t get a decent return, why would they invest? It’s not a charity.
That’s why singers are always touring. They have to. They owe the label because they are owned by the label. Even the old school A-Listers like The Rolling Stones, Diana Ross and Patti LaBelle. They are worth $300 million and still touring, and they’re damn near 80 years old.
The stones tour because they want to. I don’t feel sorry for millionaires. Football players only make a small percentage of the revenue as well but they wouldn’t have a platform if it wasn’t for the owners etc. same as the labels.
Many tour in their later years because of the high costs their lavish lifestyles produce. They go continually to the finest restaurants, the best hotels in town, travel in private jets, buy expensive designer clothes, all kind of other luxury items. And you want this to go on for the rest of your life and it costs millions of $. Sure, than work until you drop.
That's not how it works. Artists are always touring because they make the most money off of touring. The reason they make less on record sales is because the label pays for all the costs associated with the record, the label takes all of the risk in recording the album and have to cover their overhead for the business operations that support and promote the artist, therefore they also take more of the profit. They don't own the artist and the artist doesn't owe them money, they do own the recordings and license to the songs.
The label is like a giant dog. The artist is a flea on the dog
@@Koala-jj7go Is the flea collar the pen used to sign the papers voiding the artists' contracts?
TLC explained it best. 3 cents a copy and that was split 3 ways.
I believe it was 7-8 cents.
@@UniversalMokenTrollbefore or after tax?
And then they go on to explain that they have to pay the managers, they had to pay the venues, security, PR, marketing etc etc. so by the end of it they had a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of which they ALSO had to split 3 ways.
It was 17 cents depending on the cost of the CD, then depending on how much the album sold in terms of copies.
@@marieleelee That was from touring which is where ALL artists make their money.
Prince tried to tell you too, record labels are the real pimps…the game is to be sold, not told, facts.
Prince isn't the only one
Snoop is absolutely right that this is how the industry is set up. The artist doesn't make any money off of their first record deal, and that's because they're willing to make that compromise, at the time, in order to try and make it big. Or, they just get geeked about signing the record deal and don't read the contract at all. The company gives them a bonus, they spend all the money because it's more than they've ever seen in their lives, and suddenly they're fighting with the record company for a better deal when everything takes off.
This was why Taylor Swift tours so much, even after she did the remasters--because concerts and merch sales are where the artists tend to actually make most of their money.
That's more true these days, because none of you pay for anything anymore. Nobody is buying music, you stream for free.
But why does an artist need a label in the first place then?
@@CanariasCanariass The label is supposed to provide the promotional support to get sales churning. The artist is betting on the fame allowing them to get a subsequent better deal, or at least enough leverage to re-do the existing contract. It's why you see so many artists get in legal fights with their labels.
@@xejelah I'm not paying for anything that could be done for free
@@JazBumbkinsThat’s why a lot of artists, including many that you probably love, don’t make enough money. Performers used to make some money off of record sales. Now, that source has all but dried up. If they don’t, or can’t tour, they’re going to go broke eventually.
mmhmm that's right, rereleases and remasters are usually the artist getting their license so they can sell their music for their pockets
How do they get the rights to remaster or rerelease? Is it just a time thing? I've never questioned remasters before, this is so interesting!
@@emeryking1739 I am not sure in all cases but in the case of Taylor Swift it was something like the record company had the publishing/distro rights to those albums but she wrote the songs and had the performance rights. So the company owned the rights to the recordings from those albums and could always sell more from those master recordings but since she legally owned the compositions themselves she could just rerecord them as new albums.
“It’s called royalties and shit.”
Genius advice.
That's how deep it goes in the business
They'll be other complicated terminology that you've never even heard of just to confuse you
Everyone crying over here but Michael Jackson did the exact same thing to artists. Look at the howie interview where Michael told his friend and one of the biggest artists that its just business. I get that blxks aren’t the most intelligent or very business smart except for slinging rocks, but come on.
@@malcomx1924 ?
@@nepsessu258 LMAO, and this nigga got Malcom X as his YT name. He off a perc.
There was a TLC movie scene (which they took from a Lisa “Left Eye” Lopes interview) that completely breaks down the whole points system and how it works. It’s sad actually. It explained how TLC could be at the Grammys with the #1 record in the country and be flat broke at the same time. Most artists make money off endorsements and touring, not off actual record sales.
Michael Jackson was $200 million in debt which is why he was trying to do such a long tour when he passed away
But thankfully because he had ownership in all the other bits of publishing his estate made over $2 billion after his death. His estate makes over $368 million a year
That's impossible very big artist like mj have much debt right? That is prove what snoop say
@@radioactive2163How would it be impossible ?
He was in debt not only because of the label he also was an extravagant money spender
He owned 51% of Sony didn't he?
Lisa "left eye" Lopez from TLC
Told us the same damn thing over a decade ago too.
Decade was 2013...more like 2 decades 😂
@@Marcus_shawnTime needs to stop doing that.
✡️ "it's a big club, and you ain't in it!" 🤣👎🇮🇱
@Marcus_shawn why?.... just let us think the early 2000's was just a lil while back...lol
she died over 22 years ago...
Even Michael Jackson is having remastered albums. The idea of the Remastered albums came back way before. ❤
No body is saying it didnt, snoops just using taylor swift as a example, not because shes only example but most likely because shes 1 of the most well known popstars in the world.
She re-recorded whole albums, it’s not a remaster
@@jukii.mp3 Exactly, Snoop is correct about the general points, but made a mess of the Tay point. She wanted to buy those masters, and due to 'less than savoury' exec's, she re-recorded them instead.
That she had Songwriter Copyright was what allowed her to, being different to Publishing Copyright.
Remastering is different from having to re-record albums from scratch. The record company still owns the remaster if they owned the original master.
@@lavenderbee3611 A song/composition has two sets of rights: the writer's share and the publisher's share. The writer's share is the right attributed to the songwriter/composer and the publisher's share refers to the share of revenue for which admin rights can be attributed to a music publishing administrator such as Sony Music Publishing. Taylor rights as the songwriter/composer permitted her to re-record her albums and redistribute them under a different publisher, maybe her own publishing company.
The thing that people never remember is that a lot of the music business started with the backing or by the mafia and other criminal organizations back in the day.
Snoop kept it 💯. Taylor is smart for remastering her album. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Remastering?? Explain please.
@@psyourauntie id like a explanation on that too cuz it would matter if you remastered it right they still own the rights to that music
@@VilaToro64 i know it’s late to be responding but because she write the songs she owns the lyrics, the label just owns the specific recording of her voice. So she can use her lyrics to re record every song and technically with the deal she has with her new label, she owns it 100% now (lyrics and the recording)
@@bradyperkins4882 damn that smart I wonder why other singers don't follow suit the ones that can will let you know they are ghost writers
@@bradyperkins4882That's fucking brilliant. Good on her.
He just said the label wasn't the bad guy, and explained why they ARE the bad guy. . .
Lmao even I didn’t catch that 😂
Well what he is actually saying is that the label, today, is a derivative of the system created years ago. His point is to say that the label didn't just start behaving this way. It's been this way.
@@Truedoogie yeah and it made more sense when the label was acting that way years ago. But tech changed everything
Because he owns a label
No, he just said its a system then explained what the system was. Its easy to see them as the bad guy when you have a full understanding of whats really going on, yet every artist buys into the same system at some point. He didn't really give opinions, just facts. The issue is that the facts paint a terrible picture, but it is what it is.
Yep. Record labels are absolutely awful. I was in the scene from 03’-11’ in a couple decent bands (my last band signed with an indie label, equal vision records, with major label distributing, good shit). I was friends with a band from NY called “The Sleeping”. They signed to the biggest indie label at the time, Victory Records. My old band used to tour with them, and the singer actually produced and sang on our 2 EP’s. Super cool guys. We played a weekend with them after they got signed and I was talking to the guitarist about the label. By that point, they’d had a song on guitar hero, covered “staying alive” for the “Crank” movie soundtrack, we’re on NFL Madden, and several other tv shows and games. They never saw one penny from any of it. Because guitar hero was so big at the time, their album sold fairly well, and they barely got a couple thousand for the sales. For anyone wondering, the song is called “don’t hold back”. The owner of victory ended up selling the label for I believe around 30 million. So many incredible bands got totally fucked because of them. They sing bands to multiple album deals, pay for them to record and then pretty much take all of the earnings. It’s absolute bullshit. The only labels I know of that treat their bands right are labels started by other band members who know what it’s like. Epitaph records and equal vision records are pretty good labels. But screw it, labels are becoming obsolete these days. Just put your music on UA-cam and do the independent thing. Keep all your money and the rights to your songs.
Heres the issue... You are a adult & you made the *CHOICE* to agree to there terms because YOU either didn't have funds to produce your own music or YOU didn't want to risk losing your own money if the record flops so its them taking the risk so they get the bigger reward
I believe these deals are totally unfair for the artists but if u decide to sign the agreement to there terms then u dont get to turn around & blame them for your *CHOICE to sign the deal 🤷
But you need the label to get bigger. I think its insanely hard to get in the lime light if you dont have those label connections and you cant really promote your shit either because it costs big money.
@@ccink3931 "You're not allowed to say people are taking advantage of you when they're taking advantage of you" Yeah, no, that doesn't fly.
@@ccink3931 this is how corporate american desperately wants you to think. You sound like a boot licker
@@ccink3931these contracts are purposefully written to confuse you and they have their guys pretending to help you out and that it's a good deal. If something is dishonest than by no means is it fair business.
4 billion 131 million 3.5% damn. Those labels are killing it.
Miley Cyrus is another example, Disney was not going to let her go so she created a fake character doing some weird shyt during grammies and rapping about drugs and doing sexual shyt. And those were the number one rule Disney does not tolerate. And now she is free and back to herself with some really good music. She is a very smart woman.
You know I didn’t consider that the reason she did all that
@@PopCapitalist yup she was very smart about it.
She was always free , billy ray cyrus was a genius. Disney had rights to Hanna Montana not Miley Cyrus technically.
She either smart or sold her soul lol
And now she is back to singing country music. I knew she did that for a reason.
People need a legend like snoop to tell them that big corporations are bad until they open their ears
Artists have been doing this for years. OutKast who had the highest selling rap album ever called out labels back in 1996, GZA from Wu tang one of the biggest groups in history also did. And imo all of those 3 are bigger legends than snoop
Some people need a familiar face to tell them something. It's just like taking the word over an old friend over a stranger. Celebrities in the mind of the average person occupy that same kind of familiar space.
@@PopCapitalist well said
Snoop don't know chit...look up Michael Jackson Fr... Look at interviews wit ppl who were really friends wit Michael who knew the truth...
Snoop is a big corporation himself...
"It's called points and percentages and shit"
- Snoop Dogg
A man of wise words.
"It's called royalties and shits" 😅
That’s why I love seeing artists create their own labels
The artists should make their own label company.
That’s what they should do
So true
That's when the established labels go to the radios and streaming services and have those artists blackballed. There's a reason why the system hasn't been changed. The ones with all the power won't allow it.
Many have left big labels to pursue their own label.
@@Nellosphere you can do it when you have money. When you dont however its hard to come up with the money needed to launch a career. Historically labels took a bigger cut because they fronted up the cash and took on all the financial risk of launching an artists career.
never sign a contract be an independent artist and keep it all.
Sounds good on a simulator.. or on a youtube comment section..
@@KoooomA
Independent Artist- Gerry Cinnamon
Independent Artist- Gerry Cinnamon
@Pi_r8 this is not about naming the lucky few who got recognised and hit the sweet spot or have ventured into music with some significant financial backing. I'm a musician and the times I had to decide between a toilet roll and a pack of pasta in first 10 years would make one just end it all.. or sign ANY contract that would be coming my way for that matter.. all your name dropping is gibberish to me, you've never walked the walk so your and OP commenter's idealistic approach is a wishful thinking at the most diplomatic way saying it
💯% or sign up to sell your soul, they’ll own you for life! You’ll either be Micheal Jackson’d or tour till you are dead like Mic Jaggar Roger water’s etc etc. Imagine being owned by Babylon
That's why Mike bought 100s of artists catalog.
It’s what ruined his friendship with whatever Beatle it was that he hung out with. The Beatle gave him the idea and pointed at the fact that he owned his own music … which Michael then bought out from under him.
@@zero11010 This is what these corporations do to have full control over the artists anyway. Beatles should've learned to protect their music in a private trust because public courts cannot infringe on trusts. Mike doing what he did is totally fine. These artists get screwed over all the time.
@@FlipFreedom1997 sounds like you should look into the history of artists and their labels. This stuff has been going on for … what … 100 years? Every major label does the same stuff. You think a group of 20 year olds in the 1960s should have known to ignore their label and start a trust and demand control and that their label would just …. Go along with it?
@@zero11010 This is something everyone should know but people are led astray. Also, I'm not saying as if they SHOULD'VE KNOWN, just saying it so people know they can protect any of their assets.
@@zero11010 Mike in the 1980s knew to do it though🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂😂
He didn't say MJ didn't make money. He said he wasn't making dollars. However, Michael probably was making dollars. He knew the game. He wasn't just a singer. He was songwriter, producer, etc.
But Michael was the first to force the record companies to give the highest percentage per record/album! He broke down/through many barriers before the industry thieves got together to destroy him! His legacy should be studied in colleges as business models/principles 😊
You’re right it should be studied
He really should be studied, he deserves a lot more credit
He's so underrated by today's generation and so unfairly hated, especially because of greedy media, tabloids, filthy press, and also two cock-liars, and they're not only ones, who's tried and still trying to make money by falsely accusing Michael Jackson's name. I hope that when biopic movie will be released, this circus will end and the name of the King of Pop will be restored again in the eyes of those who believed the lies and rumors.
#mjinnocent #mjnotguilty #mjwasframed #mjisnotguilty
Michael gives little Richard is masters from free. Little Richard said it himself.
Michael was also the guy that bought a lot of music of artist without them knowing. He bought the Beatles catalogue from a shit recordlable for example and sold their music to be used in commercials. Paul (the artist and thus owner in your logic) called him up - Michael had contacted Paul to make a song with him few years earlier - if he could please stop selling songs like “revolution” to companies like Nike😂. You know how Michael replied? “Oh that’s just business”…. I hate to break it to you, but Michael was buying artists songs at the highest highest level. He’s became thieve you are talking about.
Anytime a song says “Taylor’s Version”, that is her remaster that she gets money from
I mean, her record label will still take money from that, but she does get a big chunk of it because she owns her masters
Taylor’s Version is not a remaster, it’s an entirely new recording from scratch. She owns the songs outright (i.e. the musical notes and lyrics), but they own literally any sound recorded by their equipment as well as all the artwork made for the originals. They’d still own a remix/remaster/re-release which is why she had to completely re-recorded everything from scratch, including new album art. It’s an insane amount of work, but a genius long-run strategy.
@@doesntdoitokNot quite. Labels own the masters, but the artists owns the songs. Her brilliant decision to completely re-record every last note from scratch with her own money means the label doesn’t get a dime. It cost her tens of millions to do that, but she can afford it.
Thanks, I’m gonna avoid this version from now on
@@mcenter94 Nobody cares.
Uncle snoop dropping some gifts of knowledge.
I know right? This may be helpful for aspiring musicians.
This is why I love that we have social media. So many more artists are coming out of the woodworks just posting funny shorts to advertise and the industry is so far behind cause they don't get it.
Stay independent my friends and keep creating, never stop.
Taylor learned from Frank Zappa, who said, "KEEP YOUR PUBLISHING, KEEP THE RECORD COMPANIES AT ARM'S LENGTH."
"If you don't own your masters, your masters own you" Prince
@@lavenderbee3611 👍🏿👍🏿
Never give your masters to record company
Some complain, others are smart
She learned from experience. Not Frank Zappa. Everyone doesn't like Zappa just because you do.
Prince called out the music business in the 90-ies. 💜💜💜💜❤️
That's why they had to get rid of him right?
@@PopCapitalist Sadly true. I saw a video with the body cams on. There were no vomit in the elevator or the hallway where they placed his body. The amount of fentanyl - both in his liver and stomach content - would have made anyone vomit or at last foaming around the mouth. His face looked like he was sleeping (but with a greyish tint) and that's not how an OD looks. suspish!
Facts, MJ made most of his money by buying the rights to the songs of other bands like the Beatles.
Ironically, the advice to invest in other bands was given to him by Paul McCartney, and once MJ outbid him on the Beatles songs, their friendship was terminated by Paul
And record companies used to give artists a loan when they’d sign up, rack up that interest. Many artists would have a “breaking even” celebration when they finally paid it off, often a few albums into their career.
Snoop said the thing that of lot of people need to start doing: Looking that shit up! Stop being lazy and do your research about things like this!
Not everybody is going to do the same quality of research, and these people want you to stay locked into what you're watching instead of having to disengage to look up what he said. And the example he brought up was an excellent jumping point to give an idea of what he was talking about.
It's not really relevant to most people
Prince, said it Lawyers and Accountant running the labels....
The vast majority of profits should go to the artists who make the music. The recording industry should be paid a fair share for their service, and that's it.
No, the artist gets a PERCENTAGE of the PROFITS. Artists are owned by their label, you wouldn't (normally) give something you own the bigger share. That doesn't make financial sense.
@@samaramorgan8023 I'm saying how it should be, not how it is.
this is why you should stay independent.
No. It may seem like that should be the case but the hardest part in that industry is distribution and marketing. There are TONS of great independent artists rn in YT and Spotify but you don't see them breaking through and making big $$$ getting radio play. Do you ever wonder why? Lol. It's not the label's fault that these artists signed bad contracts. If it's a bad deal that you "feel like a slave", which is an absurd statement, then don't sign or live an ultra lavish lifestyle spending all that money. Re-invest in yourself until you can pay for your own studio, distribution, etc. and own your Masters.
The music business is the ONLY market where you can get away with this BS. They actually have the power if they stood together to make a change but everyone is too worried about their own bag to pull it off.
I just watched an interview with Holly Johnson, lead singer of Frankie Goes to Hollywood. He touched on this subject. In his day, he got paid because of album sales. With music streaming, artists aren’t making money. The industry is making it hard for artists to get their bag. It’s also why you see those older classic bands hit the road again. If they want money, performing live is where it’s at.
This is so true. Every artist is saying the same thing.
Yeah and you believe it that's the amazing thing
@@donno6711ok
@@ms.ladietoyou8672 so u agree great
@@donno6711nope
“She’s quite new”
Bro is so articulate I love it
low standards
That is not articulate at all are you 5 years old?
Did you even finish elementary?
Yall I think he's being sarcastic
It's articulate compared to this bullshit most people speak now
Knowledge is key here. You can record and mix your own for next to nothing these days.
You can release your own album to all platforms for about 25 dollars a year.
You can pay for professional ad campaign creators for like 300.
Learn how to do things at a young age so by the time you hit 30 you don't need to rely on this massive system (with 100s of employees to pay)
Ayyyye, someone knows the knowledge! Yeah this is why I like artists like Russ who freely share the blueprint of how they do it like this
@@PopCapitalist Russ who? Im genuinely interested to know
@@amzidoeseverything Russ is another independent artist who's extremely transparent about how much he makes as an independent artist. He's got lives breaking down how he went from making a few bucks a month on his music to making over $100k per month from his music. Subscribe since we're going to be doing a video on him soon. Probably one of my favorite independent artist case studies
@@PopCapitalist one of my favorites rn!
@@PopCapitalist is he on Instagram or UA-cam with this info? I just made a single and would love to know more.
At one point it made sense when music wasent such a large part of society for the label to make a lot of the funds because they needed to keep the lights on and fund their clientele but nowadays there’s more than enough money being made for the artists to get a bigger cut without the prices of things rising
Prince, James Brown and Michael Jackson all talked about this years ago. This isn't new information!
Since Elvis Presley and Beatles Era already have the same situation.
Even the Beatles were also shocked by it too, way before Michael bought the Beatles
They all all made so much more money than litterally people in other professions. They all had these mansions and cars and what not, while others make 5 figures a year.
Being signed to a label seems like taking out student loans. They are loaning you the money to make you a star. You have to pay them back through touring concerts albums etc. The goal should not be to stay with a record company forever (ie taking out student loans forever) but to become a household name, pay them back by completing the terms of the contract, then use your star power and the few coins you made to have your own businesses and manage your own affairs.
Well said , that’s the business see before the general public, we only see the finish product, we were deceive just as much as the artist are now we get see how everything thing work it’s a system they have people who write the song produce choreograph the dances that the artist do , it’s a team of people but we only see the artist , but mows that’s has changed what’s been done in the dark has come to light , they want you to be famous , because if your a hit then they making money , the artist is the work horse ,
TLC explained this as well
No one understood clearly what they and prince were saying.
Exactly! Look at TLC, they were accepting their award and saying they're broke.
That's the name of the game in this world we live in. Anytime you hire anyone to do any kind of work for YOU, whether it is big or small they will SCR3W Y0U 0VER more than one ways... LOL... If Snoop Dogg had owned/ran his own RECORD LABEL and distributed his copies of records across the country from coast to coast and around the world all by HIMSELF, Snoop Dogg would be BILLIONS of DOLLAR RICHER instead of only having $400 million dollar in his BANK ACCOUNT(s)... LMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s why Michael Jackson bought HALF of Sony publishing and own (the Beatles, Elvis and many other artists) catalog
Snoop not afraid to bring the truth 😊
There was a little fear there. He wouldn't commit to saying the record label was the bad guy.
And this is why performers absolutely have to go on tour...I think I heard once that only the top 4 songs on the charts might make any "real money" from sales (at least back when record stores were alive)
yeah the performers makes their money off of touring and when they get real big getting endorsements to fund the tour.
So how do performers make money off concert tour if they have to first pay royalties fees to perform the songs?
@@beaconlight4720 The royalties come from the album and radio back then not the live show. The concert money is the artists money
@@zw3565 Michael hated touring...
They go on tour to substain lavish lifesyle that costs millions of $ every year. These people just can‘t settle at $100k/year life so they are slaves of their own greed.
Artist, workers, all of us are being screwed by corporations. It doesn't matter who you are. Shit needs to change, I have my torch ready.
This is why MJ bought the publishing to A LOT of artists (yes the Beatles too) but he did give many of those artists their royalties back too.
@siamsa69 That's why it was great it was MJ that brought the publishing. That's what happens when an artist is involved in the transaction for buying rights, they treat other artists with respect because they were artists.
@@PopCapitalistbut not diddy. He was a bad artist and a worse label boss.
Michael was getting $2 for every copy of Thriller sold. That was the highest royalty rate in the music industry!!!
Michael was able to negotiate with Epic and he made bank off Thriller. I believe it was over 2 dollars per album which was unheard of.
There is an incredible documentary called "Bleeding Audio" about a pop punk band from the mid 2000s named The Matches. It focuses on their struggle to make any money and the stress it put on the band, despite the fact they loved playing music.
It really opened my eyes to the imbalance in musical careers.
I highly suggest it to anyone, regardless of if you like the music the band plays or not, as the story is incredible regardless.
That's why big labels sign very young artists. New to the game..easily led. They don't figure out they are getting less til they are older.
Yup you’re right. That’s why all the artists are new and young. And even old artists don’t know to audit the deals they’re in because the labels are notorious for keeping extra money from artists
We’re going to be doing a video on it
TLC said the same thing even Prince too, Nipsey said it
All three of them knew what's up
Man this ain't the first time I've heard this, a lot of these record labels take advantage of their artists and don't pay them what they're worth, TLC was a prime example of this.
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Correction, the 1-10 is espade, the arancar.
Gin, Tosen, Aizen are Shinigami so as far as we know they don't count.
So there is still 3 espada above Ulquiora.
That’s why you make your own record label. Don’t let them take the profit
And once you take on the cost of what it takes to sustain a so-called "popular/hit" artist, you'll finally see it from the side of the shareholders when you have to pay for all those expenses most of the artists never tell you were spent on them in the first place.
@@gavinpatterson8001what kinda money would a record label splurge on an artist? For what? apart from studio time and marketing
Exactly that what MJ did back in the day started his own label and ended up own majority of Sony
Your own record label isn't even the tip once you have to do the manufacturing and distributing.
@@keepmoving2023-ku7nb That's exactly what labels tend to splurge on. Marketing is super expensive. Studios are expensive. Music videos are expensive. So on and so forth.
Snoop is not lying at all. These artists are not making money like that. Yes, they make more money than us (for the most part) but in reality, they're only making the label wealthy.
The world's best musician and dancer Michael Jackson. His style of dancing and singing music never seems childish. He always sang music in deep voice, so his songs are hit and catchy. Moreover he always wrote teachable music. He was the only person in the world who performed dance-music together in front of live audience. May her soul rest in peace'''🇧🇩🎵🎧🇧🇩
Musicians should start selling their music as NFT. Price will be set up by the uploader (artist). No label needed.
**proceeds to buy a record label** 😭
I mean y not make all that money
hate the game not the player
He's a business man. 👍
He bought not only the record label he started with but also the rights to all his music so he can make money off his music streams and all that
😂
That’s why artists immediately need a lawyer and if they’re not getting paid, bring up the word audit to the label. That’s their safe word.
artist signed a contract
This is why most Artist goes to be a Independent Artist than to get Signed by a Record label and I don't blame them
yup! most people don’t read contracts
The record label takes all of the risk. There are several artists they sign who don't end up very popular so they lose money on that deal. It's the nature of business.
i love this side of snoop
All these aspiring artists need to take a course on music finance so when a contract comes their way, they understand what they were offered and what they can ask the label.
Yup you're right. Then we wouldn't have these issues
People should be entitled to the fruit of their labor. Not their boss. Manager. Or suited execs in a corporate office!
You're right they should be entitled to the fruits of their labor.
Absolutely!
_"Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"_
- Andrew Ryan
Same applies to every job ive had. Employees get scraps 🤷
Worker-Cooperatives over capitalism.
Yes, labels make a lot of money - probably too much. Also, the act that becomes big is paying for the 9 acts that the label shelled out money on that didn’t have a hit. There are nuances in this.
Michael was the highest paid per album sold in the 80’s-90’s he was making I believe close to $4 per album which was never heard of before in the 80’s .
Not the point.
Michael made 1 dollar per album sold which is why he went to court to get 2 dollars. The record company still made 8 dollars. Basically, the record companies take 90% every time an album is sold, even today.
They take 90% unless you know how to get leverage for better negotiation terms.
@@PopCapitalist they all have the same contracts. Record labels move like a cartel.
Yeah but Mj owned half of Sony records so he got paid off his albums plus many other artists.
@@demetricwilliams6864 Michael took them to court in 1983. You're talking about something that occurred in 1995 (when Michael finally owned 50% of Sony/ATV music publishing, including his own).
@@demetricwilliams6864 In other words, there are no "Yeah but..." in the story.
Master P taught Snoop Dogg WELL!✊🏾🔥
Yes Master P most definitely did teach him well.
Michael Jackson’s lawyer taught Master P well. 🤣😂
It's obviously been a system that takes advantage of artists, but labels also put up all the money and take all the risk. How many artists turn out to be crap? Walk into any record exchange, and 90% of the albums are crap. That's 90% losses. Somebody paid for that. Not every label is filled with scumbags.
For him being so down on Prince at one time, he sure is picking up the mantle. But even then, Prince wasn't the first one, he was just the first one to put a spotlight on it.
Even FedEx doesn't own the products that they ship
For any artist who doesn't get it: if you sign a 360 deal of $2Mil and the label wants 3 albums, You've literally sold them 3 non existent LPs for $666K Each. Why the fuck would they let you OWN that or let run off without fullfiling the deal?
666 damn
Censoring snoop doggs casual swearing should be a crime.
I mean UA-cam is cracking down on cursing. We'll be switch things up though with the censorship sounds
Well, to be fair. most folks who join record labels did so because they would have made ZERO money if they didn't. Publicity was everything back then, so unless you have a means to manufacture and distribute, you had no way of putting your music out there.
When Snoop lays out the truth like this, I can't help but stan him.
Same for us
A lot of it comes back to signing contacts without understanding what you’re agreeing to
And just in case you wanna back out of the contract or leave them. They’ll just kill you or frame you and say you’re crazy
Crazy or on drugs. Yep.
@@CradleEpiscopalian56or put you on drugs
Reminds me of someone mentioned in the video. For some odd reason THEY or deadset on labeling the man as an abuser, even 14 years later.
I literally just said the same thing in one of the comments as a reply,your 💯 PERCENT correct.Thats why I said don't even get me started with Diddy🙄 bcuz I'm almost positive he had involvement in Biggie and Ppl as death.Im a BeyStan but I wish 👑BEY stayed away from him,I know Aaliyahs passing was a set up I feel deep in my spirit,I'm just glad one of my favorite rappers Eminem and Beyonce were smart enough to own their own labes 💪
The best thing for companies was digital sales.
No more CD sales, Artists missing out on so much
With mj.. he actually was gonna buy out sony.. he even said it with all of his music rights cuz he already earned it at the time. But they didn't give the man his roses here on earth... they instead took him outta here..... sadly.
Rip🐐🕊🎶
Definitely sad. Who do you think will replace MJ as that figure buying up music rights?
@@PopCapitalist Kanye frfr
@@CarlSweet12 Actually that's a good one. Kanye would definitely be someone I'd expect to do that
@@PopCapitalisthell no 😂
@@Areuthium Just because Kanye is a bit crazy doesn't mean it's not possible. People who've made it to billionaire status can quickly make it back up there again because they've already proven that they can do it
Labels will always find a way to make more off of the artist one way or the other
Snoop talking about the most known basics of the music industry like he's spitting some insane wisdom
Yeah. Anyone that's watch multiple episodes of behind the music knows this due to all the artist telling the stories of how they got played by the industry
Not everybody a music artist
Wish there was a more in-depth conversation of artists talking about the business side of the music industry