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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- This talk was recorded LIVE at the All-In Summit in Miami!
0:00 Jason intros today's episode
2:31 Palmer Luckey on Anduril, national defense & the current thing
27:06 Bestie Q&A with Palmer
55:15 Jason gives some closing thoughts
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Jason’s defensive back in time justification at the end actually makes him look worse. Palmer’s quote about elites is actually correct and has aged well.
i dont get what was so bad about jasons coment, my friends and family say meaner shit to me everday. this guy must have worshipped the ground that jason walks on to haven taken that that way. he just called his actions idiot for a guy of his caliber, like, damn maybe i just grew up around people who talk alot of shit and never actually believed people meant things that they said to be attacks that reach the core of a persons soul and identity. he must have just heard him say it at a time when he was going through some very hard times and in that moment it meant alot. to be a billionaire like these guys and work so hard, you kinda neeed to have a chip on your shoulder, you need that strong desire to prove your worth and show the world they were wrong. in the beginning little wayne was the shit, then drake came along and he was the shit, today palmer lucky is the shit and this guy is going places.
THIS is why Friedburg is the most popular bestie as demonstrated with the crowd Q&A. He's level-headed and is so evidently interested in seeking the truth of the matter in all discussions, it's rare and inspirational.
@@sucim JCal's 'ideas' are emotion driven drivel.
@@samlloyd672 well sometimes we need that little touch of emotion, did we?
@@samlloyd672 I'll give JCal credit for calling out the other "besties" over how they benefit from accredited investor laws. And I appreciated his position on human rights in episode 63. Apart from that he is my least favorite, with Chamath not far above him.
correct
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JCal, I think you missed the lesson. Showing the old clip again, and standing by what you said, means you still don't understand why you were wrong back then. And then the incongruence of following that clip with an "I respect Palmer" was almost satirical. Clearly *all* the other besties get it, so I'd suggest you have a long private talk with them - or maybe just Friedberg - to figure it out. The lesson is to never take the low road and resort to personal attacks. It may get you cheap points with the mob of the day, but you never know when the person you're disrespecting may do something respectable...
Or worse the ppl that they're shitting on might never go on to provide us with their own unique value, imagine all the unicorns that never were cause of ppl like Jason
Agreed. This was a petty, low-class move. I actually like JCal, but this was just wrong. No additional “context” was necessary. It was a crappy, biased take and he should take the L.
He’s a “networker, everyone’s friend” archetype basically. Palmer was exactly right that these are the types who don’t have any actual values or opinions, they go with the flow in order to make as many friends as possible. But this is unsustainable in the long run, as this conflict perfectly illustrates
The lesson is that your shitty socialist political agenda will ruin the good things you could be working on as a capitalist.
Friedberg’s response makes more sense if you watch yesterday’s all in podcast where he reveals they had a temporary falling out because Jcal tried to get rid of Friedberg and replace him. He’s probably loving this.
Friedberg knows how hard it was for Palmer to do this. Its nice to see how he tried to make him more comfortable.
Friedberg is a bridge builder. Peacemaker. An absolute gem.
Jason was shell shocked like an exposed tough guy
100% agree with Friedberg! Kudos to Palmer to be brave by calling JCal out and be honest on how the latter’s actions impacted him. Kudos to JCal to take this in his stride, reason with Palmer and being civil about it (not adding fuel to fire). This is what makes AIP unique, having honest and difficult conversations at the centre of the biggest and most influential echo-chamber in the world called Silicon Valley.
@@kvidal88 Ehh weak take
I disagree with a fair number of Jason’s positions. But the fact that he wanted this conversation to happen and his tolerance for criticism raised my opinion of him.
Definitely worth emulating in those respects.
True but I wish jcal had the stones to apologize and make nice.
@@kvidal88 that’s fine and dandy but he had the chance in person when confronted which is when it counts the most
@@albeit1 Jason ate it like a pro - he participated in reasonable dialogue after and I thought that was fantastic.
I can feel Sacks smiling during Palmers speech on Jason. Some harsh truths.. Palmer is a legend! Thank you for saying what’s on everyone’s mind right now when it comes to our current political environment.
Sacks not Sachs
@@siddharthsaxena2560 good catch, my b
I'll just say this. I'm glad we have a millennial who cares about America. I was starting to think it was unicorn.
So much work to do , we could wipe out war with technology. I want to do this to fight poaching on endangered species !!
@@Mg-ht8xb great !
David Friedberg was super correct, Palmer was really brave.
“David was SUPER correct” just because he made that obvious statement and this comment gets over 100 likes?? Lol I’m starting to think David pays people to support him because this is extreme lol.
@@brandonna606 you see? 😂
@@brandonna606 if you want behavior to continue, you have to acknowledge and celebrate it. Those 100 likes means this guy prob did something alot of us would not have done given similar circumstances. Celebrate/acknowledge the things you want to see in the future.
@@asdf123411288 lol I get it, I’m just saying they could at least celebrate the great things he actually says, not the regular stuff. Otherwise it just feels like virtue signaling.
correct. so eloquent
I was fired in 2016 eventually for laughing when an executive arrogantly bursted out mid meeting with “its Hillary’s turn guys”. Thank you for speaking up Palmer. You’re the dude!
So many of us are working at companies like this
What I would have liked to have heard from JCal in addition to "I'll debate you anytime" is: "but I do want to apologize for the personal nature of my attacks. I attacked your character and that was wrong." That would have gone way further than the defence at the end (which served to reinforce Palmer's argument.)
Hell yeah 😎 this is what was missing. Man’s gotta grow up
The defense at the end was absolutely lousy. They ended the conversation with them both hugging! What else do they want for a solid ending? And if JCal wanted to add a statement, that would be fine also if it was something along the lines of - 'some introspection is required', but he lacks any maturity required to do some introspection in public.
But let's also compliment him - frankly he ate shit and still participated in conversation, and like Friedberg said - Swisher would have probably kicked Palmer off stage.
The Palmer Luckey episode... Finally! As usual, David Friedberg put forward the most sincere and insightful observations.
Friedberg is obviously the nicest of them all, the most sincere and probably the most technically intelligent.
This is why Friedberg is the favorite bestie, he really showed leadership here. Also Impressed with Jcal, most would not be able to take public embarrassment this well.
take it well? what was he supposed to do on the stage lol. he delayed WEEKS in getting this out and did a little monologue before and after, that isn't "taking it well"
@@jeffreysalcedo6057 and that half-assed apology...
@@ap23z agreed - it was an explanation of him being an ass and not admitting he was wrong.
I still
Give credit to JC and I’m in agreement with palmers views
@@ap23z i also find it incredibly funny that - as was discussed on this week's episode - he was demanding extra equity for "doing the work" ... LOL. He doesn't seem to realize that him running all of the production stuff is his contribution that got him the 25% to begin with. He isn't on the same level (i.e., have the same level of real experience or be in management at one of the top companies in the world, as the other 3 did) as the other 3
Love how excited Palmer gets when he gets to talk about VR, you can see his face light up and he starts talking even faster, you can really see how much it means to him. Coincidentally, as a big fan of VR myself, Palmer has been sort of a childhood hero to me ever since learning about Oculus back in high-school so this talk was definitely the highlight of the event for me
I though the same! Exactly what this world needs. People working towards a mission that they're passionate about. The sort of innovation that would be unleashed from that in so many different levels and fields, rather than being caught up in mob bull$#!& just as they called out! Great talk
He turns into an absolute ball of light. Just pure love and passion.
Broke my heart when Palmer said his dream was to spend his life on Oculus and VR, and now he can't -- he has every right to be upset about that to this day
Palmer -- even though you never planned on creating Anduril, we will all learn in the not too distant future, why your life was guided to protect our freedoms
protect freedoms and also suppress freedoms in countries we don't like, ammiright?
@@juggle people are imperfect. The usa is not perfect, but you’d prefer china leashing you cause they have no reservations from doing that if they could.
We need more Palmer Luckey's in the tech space
I've never seen David Sacks radiating these amounts of happiness. Amazing lmfaooo
Man that context at the end did not do JCal any favors. Glad to see it though, it makes Palmer's anger even more justifiable. People comparing posting reddit memes with "violence" and "punching people in the face" was the absolute most disgraceful and terrifying part of that whole political saga, because once you have pretended that your opponent is violent it gives you the justification to be awful or violent towards them in return. So glad Palmer made it through and fired back, the harsh rebuke was more than deserved.
@@ShovelShovel If you know jcal much it simply makes sense out of it imho. He has strong opinions and he fully commits to them with a lot of color.
Also people grow over time. I know this show has made me a better person and a more rounded person. Im now interested in politics and want to make a larger impact in improving society.
Poor taste, he prefaces it as possibly coming off as defensive and that's exactly what is was lmao
@@ShovelShovel he couldn't even commit to a full apology at 53:45, pretty disgraceful
@@ap23z Yeah, it was like "if I did X then I apologize". That's not how apologies work. You apologize or you don't.
We are lucky that Palmer Luckey is American.
The Chinese definitely have their own Palmer luckey
Yeah more US bombing and civilian killing. Wooohooo
@@IntergalacticFool no they don't. This type of person is incompatible with an autocracy and gets either silenced or destroyed by the regime.
@@IntergalacticFool lucky cat. meow
Friedberg did a masterful job of mediating. Comic relief, complimenting Palmer on his bravery, and complimenting Jason on his willingness to talk things out. Also, pointing out the nature of mob behaviour was useful in making it not personal.
this guy is next level genius; and the plot twist of him talking about Jason makes it epic; Jason should apologize in straight way and not giving this fake conditional apology that he did
The episode we've all been waiting for. Glad the podcast is back!
Jason was rude not to give Palmer the respect of listening to him throughout his presentation (pretending his phone was more important). Chamath saw it .. and noticed Jason's retreat was disrespectful. Even if you disagree with someone, listen.
I appreciate how David Freidberg backed JCal at the end of the pod but also jokingly sided with the guest at the beginning so it doesn’t become awkward talk that was smart.
Palmer going All in 😍🤣😂😁
good comment hahah
Sacks was just loving it
Out of all the speeches presented in your recent event Palmer Lucky's was one of the more insightful (and hopeful!) ones, really looking forward to this one.
Agreed. Even without the personal drama, I thought it was the best talk out of the event.
Unfortunate to see someone like Palmer not work in the commercial VR industry, you can tell just how much he loves VR, he practically changed personalities when the topic was brought up.
Tragic how he was willing to spend the rest of his life bringing VR into it's full glory. Just imagine how bad the field is gonna look in 10 years without him vs with him.
I bet he'll come back to it
Imagine JCal calling Elon Musk an idiot and a troll, telling him to behave himself on Twitter! This is exactly what he did to Palmer.
He'd be right though. Someone should call Elon out for being divisive, something he claims to be against.
@@JRP3 I respectfully disagree with your analysis. I believe people should be free to express their opinion, Elon wouldn't be considered divisive if he criticized the right, but he sided against the vocal majority like Palmer. And the hypocrisy is that JCal can never insult Elon because he is not the underdog like Palmer was.
@@FreddyHuman I agree it's hypocritical, that was my point, and I agree that people should be free to express their opinion, including JCal. It's equally hypocritical for Elon to complain about divisiveness while taking sides in contrast to his more neutral past positions.
@@JRP3 is he really taking sides though and how so?
@@yoeyyoey8937 Yes he is, said he'll only vote Republican now, even though he said they are the party of "corporate evil and religious zealotry", his words.
Jason looking at his phone for whole minutes during this video says a lot.
He's pathetic
proud of u for releasing JCAL
Of course!
@@jasoncalacanislive Thank you for releasing. Big picture, some important lessons for us to learn from.
Credibility is key
@@negochristian1 who is?
With a 10 minute retort at the end like the spineless ego that he is
Best episode ever!! What a great grasp macro technological history.
Super brave of Palmer to go into the Lion's Den of JCal fans & also sit with his Besties & engage. Kudos to JCal for reacting like Chris Rock at the Oscars!
They handled it very well.
If only political parties done this
Chris Rock was a victim, Jcal was a bully
Imagine creating a spite Unicorn. Amazing. Thank you Jason.
Spiticorn. I wonder how many actually exist
JCal should have ended the video with a sincere apology for attacking Palmer like that
30:03 - look at that smile Sacks 😂 I love this podcast. Hope Palmer could make a couple more appearances in the future.
Great presentation from Palmer, major respect for calling out JCal for personally attacking him on the other podcast. I'm glad Friedberg was able to step in an breakdown the tension between the two. His comments throughout the discussion show why he's the overwhelming AIS guest favorite bestie.
I have to give JCal some credit for continuing on despite being called out, that took a high level of restraint. I just wish he would've immediately apologized for personalizing the criticism.
You did the right thing to invite him, it was brave of you. Palmer's bravery in both confronting you and building a Defence company is undeniable. Your comments of 2017 were unnecessary, once you "leave the left" you will get the point.
This is the one I have been waiting for. Thanks for getting it posted. After watching it, I can see hy it took so long to get posted. Brave of you Jason for facing it, and also brave of Palmer allowing it to be posted for us all to see.
This has to be the best pod ever. Palmer is inspirational. Glad he stood up for himself and called Jason out. Family should be off limits but looks like they hashed it out.
He never attacked Palmer's family. He said one quote (that is shown at the end of this video if you watched it) that referred to Palmer not caring about his employees family members and team members. Which Palmer misconstrued as being an attack on his own personal family.
@@Ty-gt6qz he repeatedly called Palmer and idiot and moron and said “Palmer Lucky is a complete moron who doesn’t appreciate success or care about any of his employees, family members, or team members”. Why mention family members? What basis does Jcal have to mention someone else’s family in a situation like this
@@Ty-gt6qz I love your gaslighting
When you call someone these names and say he doesn't care about his family members, that is absolutely attacking his family
But hey, nice try with your gaslighting and word twist
@@Ty-gt6qz Jason cherry-picked one show, but it was going on, as Palmer pointed out, for years.
@@Geor9e Do you have any actual examples of Jason attacking Palmer's family? The only quote I've seen of that is the mis-quoted one from the video at the end, so I will fully take back what I said if you have evidence of some other instance where he actually attacked Palmer's family. I'm not even defending Jason's actions, he was an ass and was rude in those clips and went way overboard, but my point is that villifying him and saying that he attacked Palmer's family is mob behavior based on incorrect facts. Even above this comment, someone wrote that Jason said "Palmer doesn't care about his employees, family members, ..." however that is a mis-quote but he said "employees family members" which was one phrase referring to the family members of his employees.
Let's be honest in our critique of Jason, rather than hopping on the mob bandwagon of villifying him and mis-attributing that he attacked Palmers family somehow.
Been waiting for this one specially!
Thank you to you too besties for the AIS.
Would pay for the BTS of the besties backstage during Palmer's rant lol
Jcal is my favorite bestie, largely because of his tenacity and head-on attitude. With that being said, it’s evident that it was hard for him to apologize genuinely, hence why friedberg told him to repeat it. And even in the clip segment following the panel, there wasn’t much of a real apology. More of a refusal to back down, which is great in 99% of cases. This was an example of the other 1%.
Ego prevents so many from their true potential. Great content tho, and great composure by everyone on stage. Love ya besties.
absolutely right
Friedberg is mad because Jcal tried to throw him off the podcast recently and replace him
didn't know who Palmer was before AIP but found his articulation of the issue to be on point. also inspired by how much courage it takes to not tow the popular line when loud, influential voices are attacking you personally. it would be one thing if Jcal said "I think this was a really dumb move and here's why" but to go on the personal attack made Jcal look small. I can see why it took 3 weeks to edit this episode.
As a multiple time founder myself, and somebody who engages in the startup world as a full-time part of my life, I should let you all know that the Jason's of the world are exactly the people that every founder has to steer clear of and watch his back for.
palmer - “jason never takes back what he said even when proven wrong, proceeds to prove jason wrong”
jason - at end of the episode, “here’s A clip and yeah i stand by everything and it was justified”
😩
Yes
PALMER LUCKY, YOU'RE A LEGEND
Thanks Jason for posting this. It must be difficult but necessary to allow our critics to be heard.
Jason is seething for the whole second half during an extremely interesting conversation 🤣
He's deeply embarrassed
Kudos to Palmer for being so brave and honest. His PoV is somehow taboo and silenced in a many ways especially in SV. Kudos.
Amazing content as always. Kudos to the whole team for having the balls to post this and handling the situation like pros.
Holy moly I'm happy the pod is back! I'm all in!
Palmer is an extremely intelligent and insightful person. Hope he gets a chance to work on whatever tech passion projects he has going forward without ridicule for his religious and political viewpoints (I am not a fan of religion personally).
I love that you guys aren’t afraid to have the uncomfortable controversial conversations. Have a hell of a lot of admiration for all of you. JCal first came on my radar on Lex Fridman’s podcast - mad respect. I hope you guys continue with these conferences and that I can make it out to the next one. 🤞🏻
great insights from friedberg and for being supposedly the unempathic" one, he was able to diffuse the tension early in the discussion. Show great deal of empathy and reading-the-room skills IMO.
JCal shouldn’t have done the post episode thing. That’s cowardly and unethical after Palmer left 🤦♂️
Agreed. Lame move.
I don't think the last bit made JCal look any better, in fact worse. Anyways I thought it was nice with some context.
Great episode for so many reasons! Kudos to Friedberg for taking control and truly leading (what could have been a very uncomfortable second half) the discussion! 👏🏼 👏🏼 to all the other besties too.
Wow. That got a lot of his chest. Just remember this kid is 29, and he was a lot younger when all this was being said about him. Respect for saying what needed to be said. My secret bully…
Damn what a fantastic example of adults having a conversation. More of this in the world, please! This podcast really is fantastic
Finally All-In viewers get Luckey!
Never shy away from talking politics at the dinner table and especially with friends……if you want to learn and grow then you also listen to people you may not like and people you disagree with. Keep listening and learning and be willing to change your mind when someone changes it.
Great to see Jason and Palmer engage, kind of gives me hope….
Please don’t hold grudges, remember we are stover together❤️
We need this, dont stop doing it
Friedberg is an amazing person
WOW THIS WAS WORTH THE WAIT!!!
Yeah, I could not attend in person, but have been following the UA-cam videos - I really liked it! Job well done!
Wow. Go Palmer. Legend!
Love Jason, but he did deserve that roast. Good to see someone turn the heat on. respect.
He actually did if he was a piece of shit.
Which he was. Hey, you don't like the dose of your own medicine? Then don't give it to others 😘
And again I am extremely grateful to all of you for doing this pod cast, Jason I appreciate your feeling back when the hammer of Palmer happened but I think we can be kinder to all parties involved in controversy. Extreme aggressive personal statements probably could be left aside when giving constructive criticism. I always respected my coaches in the past even when they were hard on me but when they called me names it was really hard to find the constructive part of the coaching. Really I love you guys and the work the pod is doing for our need for better enlightenment and education. Really Really you make my daily grind better to know their are smart men and women out there that I can aspire to be like
Honesty and integrity. This is why the pod is successful. Kudos to Palmer Lucky for his courage. And to Jason for being open, honest and self aware to handle the blind side. Impressive display of restraint and professionalism.
Woohooo been waiting for this one. Hoping for new normal episode ASAP though!
wont be waiting too long :)
@@allin ❤️ y’all never dissapoint
Thank you for sharing this!
Luckey is beyond based. Props
JCal got pulvizered by Palmer .. What a dude 😲
Great episode, thanks for giving us a peek in to a beautiful, insightful conversation amongst four best friends.
Amazing video. A classic that will be remembered for years to come. That was a serious display of bravery from Palmer and I felt that authentic emotion from him. Jcal went down a few notches after seeing that but respect for putting the episode up
Was worth the wait👏🏻
Incredible episode, thanks Jason!
I appreciate the Summit post but would love to hear the guys takes about Current events…
tomorrow
@@allin you guys are the best!
Yes please. We haven’t heard from you guys in weeks!!!
Nice. Smells like Freedom and truly refreshing. All-In showing serious genius, thank you!
I really a appreciate you doing this Jason…that’s a tough conversation to have, man up and own what you said, and you handled it very well. Thank you for all you guys do.
"THIS PODCAST IS ABOUT HAVING HARD DISCUSSIONS!!!" Preach! People should be uncomfortable, this is how serious progress is made!!!!
Takes a lot of gut and professionalism to address it like that and hug it out in the end.
THE POD IS BACK. Let's go!
this isn't a new episode..
No joke, after watching this I got a hunch that i will never see a hawaain shirt the same and be forever intimidated by men wearing hawaiin shirts, shorts, and sandals. The big balls energy is unreal 😅#godblessamerica
Right on Palmer.
Seriously appreciate that you aired this. It would be very difficult to do.
I respect Jason’s composure throughout all of that and admire Palmer’s honesty. Now the air is cleared I’m sure they can both move forward respectfully
Jason is one of those guys who is a pitbull on the internet and a chihuahua face to face.
Palmer has guys, much respect
Such an awesome episode at so many levels. Kudos to both Jcal and Palmer. This podcast is a gem in more ways than one.
The All-In Podcast was a revelation to me when I started watching about 6 months ago. It moved the needle on what it means to be a man to a degree I had not felt since coming across Jordan Peterson about 6 years ago.
Your failures and mistakes are what helps you to evolve. Palmer and JCal are each other’s ladders. I see each of their actions towards each other as unintentional opportunities for learning and growth. Beautiful!
What were Palmer's mistakes? Apologies, I missed that bit
best episode... worth the wait
Hopefully the "All In" gang will be back together at some point, despite whatever recent friction there's been between them. This show is such a tremendous benefit to the viewers.
What happened?!
Why wouldn’t it be? What happen
Can you ellaborate further on your comment, Sir?
There was a cryptic tweet that made it seem that the All In pod might not be continuing. It's possible that Jason will continue it on his own. Guess we'll find out in the weeks to come.
@@BennyOcean can you share what the tweet was and who posted it? Very strange with such a huge downturn in markets when we would benefit the most from their commentary they don't do a pod for weeks! Understanding to take a break after the conference, but we NEED their opinions now more then ever.
Amazing clip from all angles. Wow.
Palmer Luckey ❤️! We need many more of you!!!
Awesome talk!!! Kudos to Palmer for stepping up and the All in team for making the space to let it happen.
Thanks, Jason, for making this conversation happen.
Jason, you did a good job too. 👏 finally coming around to uploading the episode. That is true freedom of speech!
Been waiting so long for this. Glad they still provided a platform for somone that disagreed with their views and even called them out. Thats what we like to see. 👏👏👏
So happy to read the comments and discover the besties are baaaaack !
What happen for them not to be? Split?!
@@tasd5673 Not sure, Jason implied on Twitter the pod was over, hopefully we'll know tomorrow what happened.
Yes! Been waiting for palmer lucky! You guys are the best. Thanks for posting this jcal.
Huge episode, you can see palmer felt vindicated at the end. It's a stark reminder of the power words have on us, palmer must have been gutted during that time.