Honestly my opinion is don’t worry about the wheellift. It’s not a stance problem. Usually lighter riders tend to get wheellift with Torsion tails. It’s better to tune it to ideal pumping and pushing performance not to wheellift. Pssscht, I tend to have a little wheellift aswell from my harder heelside pumps🤫
My understanding, which might be completely wrong, is that while wheel lift on front wheels does significantly affect pumping efficiency, minor wheel lift on the rear wheels does not.
@ yeah usually with wheellift on the front the front truck is setup to stiff. This really impacts the pumping performance as the turning in front is necessary for the pumping forward movement. whereas a 0 degree rear doesn’t steer and thus forgives some wheellift in its pumping performance.
If you say not to worry, i'll believe it (great ultraskate BTW). GBomb on their store say a longer bolt helps with wheel-lift, be interesting if @skate-horizons could check that?
Tolles Video! Funktioniert die mitgelieferte Achse von G-Bomb nicht mit Bushings? Frage, weil du die von Lepsk8 benutzt. Falls es doch gehen würde, würden normale kurze Spacers gehen? Beste Grüsse
@@ldpzuerich heyhey, Bushings passen auf Kingpins und Kingpins sind größer als Achsen. Daher hat die mitgelieferte Achse Spiel, Sitzt also lose. Man kann da aber etwas mit spacern tricksen. Ich zeig das demnächst mal in dem Video!
Hi, Mike! Thank you for this short review👍 Waiting for mine and starting to worry about wheel lift now 😕 What is your weight and what is your front truck?
75 kg, Lepsk8 tkp front. Might also be my pump technique. also I have not experimented with it. Im sure with bushings it will work much smoother! Dont worry you will have a great product!
I've heard several recommendations that on a properly setup LDP board, that the rear wheels lift should definitely be sacrivficed to make sure front wheels don't lift. I don't believe the minor rear lift causes substantial affects to efficiency. That's all just what I've seen and heard, and it might not be correct.
@@funkingitup1805 To be honest, I don't care about performance; I'm more concerned about grip in the rear (turns out, breaking the Tuberculum majus is very painful 😬)
@@ricardohnn well it has been tested with lots of bend cycles. Also it's a special polymer and not just your usual plastic. Durability is still to be tested, but I'm confident they did their research.
@@BalkanWalks66 I see what you mean, they have done successfull durability tests in house. But of course consumer's will find weak points. I personally trust them, but time will tell ! What do you mean, by replacing the tail?
@@skate-horizons some manufacturers specify (sometimes unofficially) for how many hours or kilometers or whatever the detail could last before getting replaced or at least carefully inspected. I have some info on this from Loaded and Lepsk8. What about G-Bomb? This tail is bending hard, this means it will break at some point.
@@BalkanWalks66 Mark from G|Bomb told about it in his promo video from Facebook (over 1000 pounds over 1000 cycles, nearly 1 000 000 pump cycles). So, if they did 2 pump cycles in 1 sec, this test took about 11 days 😀
@@damiangranadosmelekhov5838 Maybe with those new carbon Filaments and the right printing direction, you might have a chance, but it won't be safe or durable, just passable. This is a special material and gbomb knows what they are doing!
Likely not. I don't see an FDM part withstanding all of the different loads this tail sees. By the time you get anything near working I suspect you'll have spent 4x the cost of buying from gbomb.
I don't really thing that is the correct manufacturing technique for such a design and function. I believe there would be an unacceptable amount of catastrophic failures.
Der ist ein wenig länger und mit den Bushings etwas weicher. Ich habs noch nicht mit bushings getestet, aber ich glaube, das wenn man beide mit der glecihen Achse/Setup aufsetzt, es sehr ähnlcih wird. Nur stock ist der Tango etwas weniger geschmeidig
@@skate-horizons ähm danke für deine schnelle Antwort. Ich versteh sie nur aufgrund deiner Formulierung nicht ganz :). Die Frage war ja ob du mit der LEPSK8 auch so viel Wheellift bekommst oder bestenfalls sogar gar nicht. Vielleicht war meine Frage nicht präzise genug. Mein Fehler. VG
@@eracerone82 Ah mein Fehler, der Lepsk8 tail ist etwas länger, nein ich habe keinen wheellift. Aber ich nutze ja auch bushings hinten beim lepsk8, also mehr spiel in der Achse und weniger Torsion. Das muss man beim Gbomb vermutlich ein bisschen konfigurieren, bis es perfekt für den eigenen Stil passt!
@@skate-horizons vielen Dank für dein Antwort :). Ich hatte in dem Video gesehen, wo das Tango Tail vorgestellt wurde, das man den torsionflex des Tango mit solchen "inserts" halbmond bushing experimentieren kann, vermutlich wird damit dann nur die Torsion abgemildert.
@@thedefdev theoretisch jede, die Sphericals als Durchmesser hat, die beiden würden gehen, aber man braucht idealerweise die passende spacer. Ich hab leider keine zu testen da, sonst würd ich's dir sagen
Honestly my opinion is don’t worry about the wheellift. It’s not a stance problem. Usually lighter riders tend to get wheellift with Torsion tails. It’s better to tune it to ideal pumping and pushing performance not to wheellift. Pssscht, I tend to have a little wheellift aswell from my harder heelside pumps🤫
My understanding, which might be completely wrong, is that while wheel lift on front wheels does significantly affect pumping efficiency, minor wheel lift on the rear wheels does not.
@ yeah usually with wheellift on the front the front truck is setup to stiff. This really impacts the pumping performance as the turning in front is necessary for the pumping forward movement. whereas a 0 degree rear doesn’t steer and thus forgives some wheellift in its pumping performance.
If you say not to worry, i'll believe it (great ultraskate BTW). GBomb on their store say a longer bolt helps with wheel-lift, be interesting if @skate-horizons could check that?
Nice preview thanks! We just recieved them and we are curious how it will be!
@@SickboardsLongboardshop That's great news!
Fast shipping and no issue with customs!
Pov waiting for my 7inch bolt version to come in while seeing the last nice days of the year slowly fly by🗿
@@shida420 Oh man, I feel that so much...
These brackets haven't even arrived on the continent of Africa yet, been seeing this for many moons❤
Great video!
How much does it weighs?
@@Long_Skates goo question it's lighter than the Lepsk8 tail. Maybe 200g?
Ill have to weigh it later!
@@skate-horizons yes please 🙏
175g, truck only, with axle 240!
@@skate-horizons wow that’s light. Ordered directly one 😍
Tolles Video! Funktioniert die mitgelieferte Achse von G-Bomb nicht mit Bushings? Frage, weil du die von Lepsk8 benutzt. Falls es doch gehen würde, würden normale kurze Spacers gehen? Beste Grüsse
@@ldpzuerich heyhey, Bushings passen auf Kingpins und Kingpins sind größer als Achsen. Daher hat die mitgelieferte Achse Spiel, Sitzt also lose. Man kann da aber etwas mit spacern tricksen. Ich zeig das demnächst mal in dem Video!
Besten Dank für deine rasche Antwort! Jetzt verstehe ichs. Dann werde ichs erst mal normal benutzen. Freue mich schon auf weiter Videos von Dir!
Nice & Thanks :)
🤙🏽🤟🏽👌🏽
Hi, Mike! Thank you for this short review👍
Waiting for mine and starting to worry about wheel lift now 😕
What is your weight and what is your front truck?
75 kg, Lepsk8 tkp front.
Might also be my pump technique.
also I have not experimented with it. Im sure with bushings it will work much smoother!
Dont worry you will have a great product!
I've heard several recommendations that on a properly setup LDP board, that the rear wheels lift should definitely be sacrivficed to make sure front wheels don't lift. I don't believe the minor rear lift causes substantial affects to efficiency. That's all just what I've seen and heard, and it might not be correct.
@@funkingitup1805 To be honest, I don't care about performance; I'm more concerned about grip in the rear (turns out, breaking the Tuberculum majus is very painful 😬)
@@reugen87 Oh, yeah. Not cracking a bone does seem sort of important.
That flex on the plastic makes me wonder how much it can handle before breaking... Any idea how much it can handle?
@@ricardohnn well it has been tested with lots of bend cycles.
Also it's a special polymer and not just your usual plastic.
Durability is still to be tested, but I'm confident they did their research.
Hmmm. This bending of that plastic does not look very durable. Do they have any failure stats? Any recommendations on replacing the tail?
@@BalkanWalks66 I see what you mean, they have done successfull durability tests in house. But of course consumer's will find weak points.
I personally trust them, but time will tell !
What do you mean, by replacing the tail?
@@skate-horizons some manufacturers specify (sometimes unofficially) for how many hours or kilometers or whatever the detail could last before getting replaced or at least carefully inspected. I have some info on this from Loaded and Lepsk8. What about G-Bomb? This tail is bending hard, this means it will break at some point.
@@BalkanWalks66 wow i didn't know these measurements existed. Maybe ask them directly I would be interested in that too!
@@BalkanWalks66 Mark from G|Bomb told about it in his promo video from Facebook (over 1000 pounds over 1000 cycles, nearly 1 000 000 pump cycles).
So, if they did 2 pump cycles in 1 sec, this test took about 11 days 😀
@@reugen87 thank you, that's quite impressive. Hope the material does not degrade much with time when contacting light and air (i.e. like PLA).
Do u think it might be possible to 3d print a similar truck?
@@damiangranadosmelekhov5838 Maybe with those new carbon Filaments and the right printing direction, you might have a chance, but it won't be safe or durable, just passable.
This is a special material and gbomb knows what they are doing!
Likely not. I don't see an FDM part withstanding all of the different loads this tail sees. By the time you get anything near working I suspect you'll have spent 4x the cost of buying from gbomb.
60$ ... support the Inventor! 👍
I don't really thing that is the correct manufacturing technique for such a design and function. I believe there would be an unacceptable amount of catastrophic failures.
Hat man bzw bekommst du mit dem LEPSk8 Torsionstail auch wheellift?
Der ist ein wenig länger und mit den Bushings etwas weicher. Ich habs noch nicht mit bushings getestet, aber ich glaube, das wenn man beide mit der glecihen Achse/Setup aufsetzt, es sehr ähnlcih wird.
Nur stock ist der Tango etwas weniger geschmeidig
@@skate-horizons ähm danke für deine schnelle Antwort. Ich versteh sie nur aufgrund deiner Formulierung nicht ganz :). Die Frage war ja ob du mit der LEPSK8 auch so viel Wheellift bekommst oder bestenfalls sogar gar nicht. Vielleicht war meine Frage nicht präzise genug. Mein Fehler. VG
@@eracerone82 Ah mein Fehler, der Lepsk8 tail ist etwas länger, nein ich habe keinen wheellift. Aber ich nutze ja auch bushings hinten beim lepsk8, also mehr spiel in der Achse und weniger Torsion.
Das muss man beim Gbomb vermutlich ein bisschen konfigurieren, bis es perfekt für den eigenen Stil passt!
@@skate-horizons vielen Dank für dein Antwort :). Ich hatte in dem Video gesehen, wo das Tango Tail vorgestellt wurde, das man den torsionflex des Tango mit solchen "inserts" halbmond bushing experimentieren kann, vermutlich wird damit dann nur die Torsion abgemildert.
Top Video !
Welche Achse kann man verwenden, ist die TT-X Achse kompatibel oder kann da auch die TT-A Achse verwendet werden ?
@@thedefdev theoretisch jede, die Sphericals als Durchmesser hat, die beiden würden gehen, aber man braucht idealerweise die passende spacer. Ich hab leider keine zu testen da, sonst würd ich's dir sagen
Ew winter always impeding on longboard science