Se7en has always been and probably always will be my favorite Fincher. The cinematography, the screenplay, the acting (including a truly great Gwyneth Paltrow performance) are all damn good
I mean the first two acts are obviously very well made, but they’re just so excruciatingly boring. Obviously the third act is one of the best third acts in film, but like damn, it’s such a bore to get to that point.
@@aggohyf I wouldn't agree at all. During the 2/3 of the film we have important characterization and setup that hints at what's to come, also the murders keep leaving us more perplexed and disgusted, the SLOTH victim especially and that whole scene and jump scare is executed phenomenally. It's evident that he hasn't re-watched this film recently, cause he said he doesn't remember anything from the 2/3 of the film, which is beyond ridiculous, cause I've only watched it a couple of times, but I remember all of it very well and a lot of the high points of the film come pretty early in the movie.
That's sort of what I like about him. He's 100% a normie. He's the epitome of a contemporary young cinephile. I think it's funny, even if it's unintended. He's self important and sometimes clueless, like it's been mentioned above. It's funny. IDK. Maybe it's a character, but if it isn't it makes perfect sense as a representation of current youngsters. But I can see why it would bother some people. But when you think about it, he's just a dude doing dude things and saying dude things and having dude's points of view.
Based on his letterboxd I’d assume: 1. Fantastic Mr Fox 2. Life Aquatic 3. Grand Budapest 4. Isle of Dogs 5. Royal Tenenbaums 6. Moonrise Kingdom 7. Rushmore 8. Darjeeling Limited 9. Bottle Rocket
Great Ranking but you forgot two words when talking about the social network: Aaron Sorkin. His dialogue and screenplay coupled with Finchers style is what makes the movie so fast paced, intriguing, and just an overall masterpiece.
when you got to number 2, i was shocked you didn’t mention Social Network. So when i saw it as #1, I freaked tf out. Saw it when I was 12 and it still stands as my favorite film of all time. Please do a whole video on that masterpiece, Karsten.
@@jens2049 never said he gave a bad performance or he doesn't deserve credit for his contributions to the film. I just personally hate seeing such a violent and abusive person be celebrated and praised and put in the spotlight. the fact that his character is not only despicable but also only in the last few minutes of the film makes his performance feel more fitting to the kind of person he actually is. sorry that's just my personal opinion.
Fight Club is the Fincher film I find myself enjoying the most and personally got me invested into him as a director, what especially gets me is how it nails the themes of masculinity especially in a modern age as represented by Tyler's character. Also can't get enough of the opening theme in Fight Club.
The presence of a masculine theme in Fight club is an interesting take I never picked up on. Fight club always felt like the disillusionment of people “working shitty jobs for things they don’t need” in an attempt validate themselves. The brutal fights are just an expression of anger. Fight club’s concept could’ve been executed by either gender, But I don’t think it would’ve be well received if women were punching ea other. As a producer who the hell could you market a film like that to?
I remember almost everything before Seven's third act. I remember how shocked I was with each kill, specially lust, the classical strings playing while Somerset researches through library, his conversations with Mill's wife, his visit at their home, the chase scene, and the whole concept of Somerset carryng The Seven Virtues. But I love the ending and how hopeful it actually is. And I would argue Fight Club is not simply a critique on Capitalism, but at human organization. Tyler Durden's anarchy fastly becomes a terrorist organization that respects hierarchy, that has a gospel, and has measures of value, like religion, like Capitalism. Is not only Capitalism, is humanity's mentality.
I love how Fight Club simultaneously satirizes masculinity, capitalism, and fascism. The themes and black humor of Palahniuk's novel were only enhanced by Fincher's brilliant style and those classic performances. And the visual effects, _holy shit!_
I know I'm in the minority here but I think Seven and Fight Club are Fincher's best films. Social Network might be the most important, but the first two are masterworks in the purest sense for me.
"sorry, my prada's at the cleaners along with my hoodie and my fuck-you flip-flops" is going to be an iconic line for years into the future the way lines like "forget it jake it's chinatown" and "at least we'll always have paris" have been remembered
SE7EN is criminally underrated!!! One of the most beautiful darkly lit films I’ve ever seen. That darkness, the rain, the shot of John Doe holding a gun to Brad Pitt. The “7 deadly sins” gimmick of John Doe is unmatched by any of the other films in the serial killer genre. And best of all, Fincher completely subverts the serial killer genre by having John Doe *spoilers LOL* turn himself in. Just about a perfect movie that I believe is overlooked because of how much “whats in the boxxxxxxx” has been referenced in pop culture over the years.
@@radentstwo9793 You’re right lol. I don’t think its his most acclaimed film because of the Social Network & Fight Club, but it’s not underrated. I meant relative to this video.
Yeah, for real, I definitely feel like I've seen ridiculous news stories and murder conspiracy theories get sensationalized on television like that and just go on and on for weeks in an extremely similar way as the film depicts. Unfortunatley I can't think of examples in the moment, LOL, but I definitely feel like that's a common thing.
@@danielw2460 lol you just haven’t followed that kind of coverage before, the media has certainly been that obsessed in the past, a la Nancy Grace & Casey Anthony which they clearly referenced in Gone Girl
Personally, it's gotta be Fight Club, everything from the style (which I kinda like) to the performances. I think there is a lot you can say about the film, I wish it was respected back then by the critics.
TGWTDT was an incredible film adaptation both aesthetically and true to the source material. The soundtrack was *chefs kiss* and Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara did amazing work. Totally underrated IMO. Thanks Karsten!
Agreed!! Rooney Mara as Lisbeth made me realize I'm attracted to women lmao. Such a badass character in a very different way from the forced ~boss babe~ trope
I hate to be that guy, but the Gary Oldman domestic abuse charges were dropped almost 20 years ago and his wife had a history of drug abuse. Oldman even got custody of his children. Do not accuse someone of being an awful person without any real evidence to back it up
@@bradyrobinson4953 Sorkin (the writer of the first film and responsible for the impeccable dialogue) said he found a book about Facebook in recent years that he'd love to write a screenplay for, but only if Fincher was directing...here's hoping!!!
@@tenfoldtuesday5917 true. That, and if you find him annoying in Dallas Buyers Club, that just makes you transphobic piece of trash. Haters don't win. And they never will.
@@RevRyukin7 I think he's absolutely a decent actor and he's likely more talented than me... but he's also an alleged sexual predator, cult leader and confirmed cause of constant irritation to his peers.
While the social network is definitely his best work, Gone Girl is my favorite. I don’t think I’ll ever forget the first time I watched it and how shocked I was by it. And the fact that they brought Gillian Flynn herself to write the screenplay was genius work. I disagree with you on the media bit though. She was Amazing Amy, a widely known person that had many children’s stories based off of her likeness, she was very well known as a person. It’s not really shocking that the media acted the way it did, hell we live in 2020. It’s definitely in my top 10 of all time and love it more with every rewatch.
Gone Girl The Social Network Zodiac Fight Club Se7en The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo The Curious Case of Benjamin Button Mank The Game Panic Room Alien 3 A TRUE MASTER OF CINEMA
This is just my interpretation, but I don't think Fight Club is trying to be a 'critique of capitalism' movie. Rather, I think it just uses that to represent general rebellion against the system, which happens to be capitalist and consumerist. Personally, I interpret Fight Club as saying that neither the super materialist capitalist life nor the Tyler Durden anarchist life are any way to live, and that one should balance those extremes to live a fulfilling life .
Yeah someone can't really be super focused and love the critique of capitalism, while also speaking on how Tyler is idolized wrongfully too often. It is in of itself a contradictory statement you either recognize both sides the film is addressing, or focus on one specific side. Each character is one side of a whole. People often get too caught up in which one of their beliefs they perceive a film to be validating.
"I think it just uses that to represent general rebellion against the system, which happens to be capitalist and consumerist." how is that different? its depicting rebellion against the current system - which is capitalism - so its a critique of capitalism if it was depicting rebellion against a different system it would manifest differently and be a fundamentally different film its universal because of its specificity - and it specifically talks about the kind of alienation specific to late capitalism. and the way alienation leaves a void men fill by being vulnerable to joining quasi-fascist groups is part of the critique of capitalism people are so desperate for any alternative they fall under the sway of bad ones.
Girl with the dragon tattoo is one of my favorite movies. I love how cold it is and I enjoy the crime aspect. The way people are describing the basement scene Zodiac is similar to how I felt when watching Daniel Craig go back in the house at the end of gwtdt
YES. The Girl with The Dragon Tattoo is my third favorite Fincher movie, only passed by Gone Girl and The Social Network. The atmosphere is easily the most developed and mesmerizing in any of his films, the characters are fascinating to me, and yeah, that scene when he goes back to the house is just as if not more tense to me than the basement scene because there’s more evidence pointing towards Martin being the killer than the guy in Zodiac.
The first time that I watched The Social Network was when I was 14, and it instantly became my favourite film. I didn't even know why but it was just perfect to me. I am now much more into filmmaking and I understand why I love this film in so many more ways and after all the other great films I have seen since it still remains my favourite of all time. I am so glad you see it as a masterpiece the same way I do.
Fight Club was just genius in my opinion. All of the little details were striking. One of the most rewatchable films in my opinion. I just watched it yesterday as a matter of fact.
David Fincher is by far my favorite director. I love every single one of his films. My ranking: 1. Fight Club 2. Zodiac 3. Se7en 4. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 5. Gone Girl 6. The Social Network 7. Mank 8. The Game 9. Panic Room 10. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button 11.Alien³
The Social Network is my favorite Finicher movie and probably in my top 5 of all time. It's become a comfort movie for me where I'll put it on to have it in the background while I do something else or if I'm bored and have nothing to do. I can almost recite the entire thing line for line.
Please watch “Memories of murder”, it has to be the best crime film ever. It’s kinda similar to Zodiac, but in a Korean setting and directed by Bong Joon Ho
He’s watched it, he likes it less than Zodiac, which I find weird because it does everything Zodiac does well and (in MoM does it better), and it did it first.
in gone girl, the press cared so much because rosamund pike’s character amy elliot dunne’s parents had written a series of books loosely based off of amy. i assume most people in the film grew up with the amazing amy books, therefore explaining why the fuck they all cared so much about a missing middle aged woman
@@sameerahmed-gx8js ahhh...here comes the anti nolan circle jerkers basically begging for likes. You could've at least written a comment that makes grammatical sense. Pathetic.
@@Luca-bv5ic your comment proves that you're a fanboy.... My one sentence offend you so much..... Of course my English is pathetic cause I'm not a native speaker..... Booo fanboy
@@sameerahmed-gx8js Bruh, Nolan isn't even my favourite director. Nice assumption, but an incorrect one. You're the one who out of the blue started screeching about Nolan fanboys just because someone quoted one of his movies. If anyone is the reactionary here, it's you.
The Social Network was the film that made me realize, oh wait THIS is film. It made me fall in love with another kind of cinema, one separate from the marvel and Disney movies. It was the missing puzzle piece that helped me figure out like, holy shit I love films. IT IS A MASTERPIECE!!!
Girl With the Dragon Tattoo used to be toward the bottom of my list, but on rewatch it shot to near the top. The weird 5-act structure seriously threw me off the first go-'round, but now it seems revolutionary. Also, the generational divides of the story become what the film is about for me - the Boomer villains, the half-assed, depressed Gen-X protagonist, and the Millennial - who actually saves the day - gains faith only to be heartbroken and left at sea in the end. Really heartbreaking. For symbolic backup, please note the Gen-X B-plot of 'should we sell out 'Millennium' magazine to the Boomers?'
Seven is my favorite at this point. I actually think the build up to the third act is perfect and still entertaining. And also, it's Morgan Freeman's best performance of all time.
I remember watching The Social Network in theaters when I was only 14 and immediately became obsessed with it just due to how every element of the movie from the screenplay, to the score, to the cinematography was just brilliant - but at that age most of the people my age couldn't understand why I liked "the facebook movie" so much. Nice to be here over a decade later and knowing my love for that movie was justified and it continues to get the hype it deserves
My Fincher List: (With a little Spoiler for The Game) 11: Alien 3 (oh boy I hate it) 10: Benjamin Button (watched it like 3 years ago and can't remember anything) 9: Panic Romm (just cool to watch, but nothing special) 8: Mank (felt like 4 hours) 7: The Social Network (Jesse Eisenberg acting....nope) 6: The Game (SPOILER: the ending ISN'T dark) 5: Gone Girl (another fincher movie with a shitty ending) 4: with a big gap to TOP5 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Rooney Mara) Zodiac, Se7en and Fight Club are Number 1. Everytime I watch any of these three movies I say "Yes that's the best Fincher". Can't really decide, 'cause they're all Masterpieces.
the social network wouldve never worked if everyone wasnt in peak performance mode from the actors, to the writing, to finchers directing, even extending towards trent reznor and atticus ross' score it just all works so well together, for me its the best fincher film
If you love Zodiac, I really think you'd love Memories of Murder (if you haven't watched it already). A lot of crime thrillers take the necessity of the investigation for granted, but Memories of Murder really taps into humans' search for answers, resolution and justice and questions what is the best method to achieve these things. If you've already seen it, I would love to see a Bong Joon-ho ranking!
OMG, you haven't rewatched The girl with the dragon tattoo?! Have definitely watched it at least 10 times and ... yep, it does drive you nuts, but it feels so rewarding lol.
Thank you. The Social Network is literally a perfect movie. I’ve seen it like 15+ times and you’re damn right that there’s not a single flaw in it the entire film
I like the penguin special effects and weird sequences in fight club. Like the narration over all his material possessions going over his apartment, and green tinted time lapses cut aways ect. I think to many movies are afraid to go at it hard with their style. Fight club might have carbon dated itself in the 2000's but that's part of the charm.
Gone Girl is probably my favorite Fincher film because it feels like the pinnacle of everything he’s ever done. In most Fincher films, two characters are at odds with each other which slowly reveals and changes their character, but in Gone Girl, they actively destroy each other until they’re each left to their bare essentials. Most Fincher films are about the investigators of crimes, but Gone Girl is about the victims and perpetrators, going deep into the crime itself. It’s my second favorite looking out of his films after Mank, the score is enthralling, and it never stops being deliciously, mysteriously, entertaining. Social Network and Zodiac are definitely both top 4 though.
Definitely agree with Social Network at the top. One of the things I love about it is how Fincher takes Sorkin’s writing which is usually pretty romantic and optimistic and essentially unlocks the darkness in it. Really shows you how strong his control of a film is, as I feel like most directors have often been almost overshadowed by the writing when working with Sorkin
i didnt know about the hâte on benjamin’s button, i personally love this movie, this is the story of a pure man shown through the complex simplicity of the life he’s trynna control, it just feels so beautiful i don’t get why people hate it that much
Great vid! You make some valid points. At this point in my life, my list looks like this: 1. The Social Network 2. Zodiac 3. Fight Club 4. Seven 5. Gone Girl 6. The Game 7. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 8. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button 9. Alien 3 10. Panic Room --- I haven't seen Mank yet.
Personally, I think that “Fight Club” should be on 2nd place, just because of it rewatchability, but I can overlook this. Otherwise, the ranking is very good and respectable. Good job, good video!
@@johnyoutube3053 its not actually overated just for having on the nose themes because you can have lots of different interpretations of fight club its not a black and white film. it not just saying muh capitalism bad its also critiquing anarchy, lack of purpose, hypermasculinity, consumerism, loneliness, mental illness and lots of other shit. Tyler Durden is not a role model or a hero for blowing up a bunch of buildings he's just a terrorist at the end of the day with relatable goals
@@christucker7655 This is what many fail to interpret. They focus on one or two of the themes which validate their beliefs best and miss everything else. Fight Club is not an answer to any question, it is asking the questions. No one takes the time to think about why so many men relate to one part or another of Fight Club.
I've been watching these ranking videos a lot lately, and this is my favorite so far. You're funny, the editing is spicy, and your choices are excellent. Yes, I'd swap out Gone Girl and The Game for Fight Club and Seven, but I didn't want to yell at my computer screen like usual. Easy sub. Great job!
'Zodiac' is my favorite of Fincher's. The mood alone is so dense and engaging, I remember thinking "I should've been a movie director". Number two is 'The Social Network'. Haven't seen 'Mank' though; I'm a huge Fincher fan, but I decided against watching it until after I've watched 'Citizen Kane'.
so be honest, what’s YOUR favorite fincher film?
Have yet to see any, but I am starting with the social network.
Social Network
The Social Network.
Can't talk about it 😅
Sev7n, I don't think it's the best, but it's my fav
Karsten looking like he's preparing for a role in The French Dispatch
I-
Hahaha yeah
@@georgelinford5576 finish your sentence
It’s cute and true lol
@@eamonnstokes8366 he-
Zodiac has one of the best scenes ever. Basment scene. Had me shaking
That shit was terrifying
OMG yess, so fucking suspenseful!
Same!!! Was on the verge of a heart attack
I remember watching that at like 2 AM and my heart rate was at like 200 bpm
GOD THAT SHIT WAS SO INTENSE
How was Andrew Garfield not even nominated for best supporting actor for the Social network. One of the biggest crimes in the history of the academy
Yea i just watched it and he was really good, definetly deserved an oscar for that performance.
I thought he was.
Or Armie Hammer or Justin Timberlake.
he killed it so hard
@@osmanyousif7849 Yeah, is no-one gonna talk about how one of the most well regarded films of the 21st century stars Justin Timberlake???
Se7en has always been and probably always will be my favorite Fincher. The cinematography, the screenplay, the acting (including a truly great Gwyneth Paltrow performance) are all damn good
Yeah Gwyneth Paltrow was great in the movie especially in the third act
@@charliepokaski9550 Lmao
The set design is incredible as well
This guy said the first 2/3s of Se7en were "just fine."
That’s Karsten
clearly he has no idea what his talking about...
I mean the first two acts are obviously very well made, but they’re just so excruciatingly boring. Obviously the third act is one of the best third acts in film, but like damn, it’s such a bore to get to that point.
@@aggohyf I wouldn't agree at all. During the 2/3 of the film we have important characterization and setup that hints at what's to come, also the murders keep leaving us more perplexed and disgusted, the SLOTH victim especially and that whole scene and jump scare is executed phenomenally. It's evident that he hasn't re-watched this film recently, cause he said he doesn't remember anything from the 2/3 of the film, which is beyond ridiculous, cause I've only watched it a couple of times, but I remember all of it very well and a lot of the high points of the film come pretty early in the movie.
That's sort of what I like about him.
He's 100% a normie. He's the epitome of a contemporary young cinephile. I think it's funny, even if it's unintended. He's self important and sometimes clueless, like it's been mentioned above. It's funny. IDK. Maybe it's a character, but if it isn't it makes perfect sense as a representation of current youngsters.
But I can see why it would bother some people.
But when you think about it, he's just a dude doing dude things and saying dude things and having dude's points of view.
Go on, do a wes anderson one
It is probably a high likelihood when the French dispatch comes out
Based on his letterboxd I’d assume:
1. Fantastic Mr Fox
2. Life Aquatic
3. Grand Budapest
4. Isle of Dogs
5. Royal Tenenbaums
6. Moonrise Kingdom
7. Rushmore
8. Darjeeling Limited
9. Bottle Rocket
Wes anderson is not in the same class
@@lawrence-yx1ew Yep, he’s in a higher one.
GO ON! we need a petition
Dennis Villenueve ranked would be great. He has a pretty distinctive style but reminds me a lot of Fincher. Nice video btw!
I'd wait for Dune to come out. Denis also has incredible work that he made when he was based in Québec. Check out Polytechnique.
@@felixgagnon4807 yes you're right maybe wait for Dune. Polytechnique is the only Villenueve movie that i've not seen, i'll check it thanks!
Incendies is my favorite.
@@bharasiva96 beautiful and heartbreaking movie, but I think i'll stick with Sicario (that border scene thoooo)
@@fleafighters Oh yeah. Sicario is another masterpiece. Gosh he makes such great movies. Prisoners is another classic.
We need a Paul Thomas Anderson Rank!
#1 is still There Will Be Blood right?
YES THIS
@@Advent3546 at one point he said it's overrated. Funniest shit i've ever seen
@@Advent3546 I’d go boogie nights 1 then there will be blood at 2 but you can’t go wrong with either
@@ZR38315 Man I haven't seen Boogie Nights in years
Great Ranking but you forgot two words when talking about the social network: Aaron Sorkin.
His dialogue and screenplay coupled with Finchers style is what makes the movie so fast paced, intriguing, and just an overall masterpiece.
Going in I was doubtful a film about facebook could do much of anything---it's amazing work.
when you got to number 2, i was shocked you didn’t mention Social Network. So when i saw it as #1, I freaked tf out. Saw it when I was 12 and it still stands as my favorite film of all time. Please do a whole video on that masterpiece, Karsten.
Yes!! It’s my favorite movie of all time too and I also saw it when I was 12. Are we the same person??
Hi llusion
fancy seeing you here, love your music
I mean if it isn't 2nd then it would be the 1st right? What's with freaking out?
@@blissm3dia482 same for me
“Some guy I’ve never heard of” so weird I can’t find this guy anywhere in imdb.
He kevin spacey m8
@@jamessunderland7773 whos that?
@@jamessunderland7773 what’s a kevin spacey?
@@jamessunderland7773 Who??
@@jamessunderland7773 whos kevin spaceman
"gone girl, fuck yeah"
yeah pretty much sums up my thoughts on that movie
I like your profile pic😂😂😂
Thor ?
Forgettable melodrama. Not particularly close to Gone Baby Gone.
That basement scene in Zodiac was so nerve-racking and tense it made me nauseous, I was screaming for Gyllenhaal to get out!!
How did you time travel
@@icedmasala yeah😂
Wtf how is this from a day ago
@@icedmasala shush, it's a secret 😂
@@icedmasala I watched the spongebob episode and came here a day early
"Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, and some guy I've never heard of all bring it home in such a captivating way"
lmao
Funnily enough, the trailers and posters didn’t market that Kevin Spacey was in it ‘cause they wanted the killer to be a surprise to audiences.
The perfect role for him. He’s absent a majority of the run time, and his entire character is absolutely horrible
@@soph1111e no fuck this, his performance deserves credit
@@jens2049 never said he gave a bad performance or he doesn't deserve credit for his contributions to the film. I just personally hate seeing such a violent and abusive person be celebrated and praised and put in the spotlight. the fact that his character is not only despicable but also only in the last few minutes of the film makes his performance feel more fitting to the kind of person he actually is. sorry that's just my personal opinion.
@@soph1111ehe has been proven innocent now. Never judge before proven guilty.
Fight Club is the Fincher film I find myself enjoying the most and personally got me invested into him as a director, what especially gets me is how it nails the themes of masculinity especially in a modern age as represented by Tyler's character. Also can't get enough of the opening theme in Fight Club.
Yeah, I agree. It beats the fucking pants off The Social Network.
The presence of a masculine theme in Fight club is an interesting take I never picked up on.
Fight club always felt like the disillusionment of people “working shitty jobs for things they don’t need” in an attempt validate themselves. The brutal fights are just an expression of anger.
Fight club’s concept could’ve been executed by either gender, But I don’t think it would’ve be well received if women were punching ea other. As a producer who the hell could you market a film like that to?
Petition to change David Fincher’s name to Daddy Fincher.
Finch daddy
No
👌
Yall perverts
*the Finchster
I remember almost everything before Seven's third act. I remember how shocked I was with each kill, specially lust, the classical strings playing while Somerset researches through library, his conversations with Mill's wife, his visit at their home, the chase scene, and the whole concept of Somerset carryng The Seven Virtues. But I love the ending and how hopeful it actually is.
And I would argue Fight Club is not simply a critique on Capitalism, but at human organization. Tyler Durden's anarchy fastly becomes a terrorist organization that respects hierarchy, that has a gospel, and has measures of value, like religion, like Capitalism. Is not only Capitalism, is humanity's mentality.
yeah lust part is so fucked up. great performance by the guy “he told me to fuck her” jesus christ so horrific
I love how Fight Club simultaneously satirizes masculinity, capitalism, and fascism. The themes and black humor of Palahniuk's novel were only enhanced by Fincher's brilliant style and those classic performances. And the visual effects, _holy shit!_
@@anonymous4k4k Yeah, is amazingly terrifying.
@@wandersonoliveira263 100% agree , some of the scariest shit ever and its so good
I know I'm in the minority here but I think Seven and Fight Club are Fincher's best films. Social Network might be the most important, but the first two are masterworks in the purest sense for me.
"sorry, my prada's at the cleaners along with my hoodie and my fuck-you flip-flops" is going to be an iconic line for years into the future the way lines like "forget it jake it's chinatown" and "at least we'll always have paris" have been remembered
“.03 percent.”
I've no idea why most movie lines on the AFI's list were actually popular.
“… you *_Pretentious Douchebag_* “
@sophie ! Figures. Meaningless tripe up against two lines fraught with meaning.
"he's at least the biggest perfectionist that i know of"
Stanley Kubrick would like to have a word with you
And Spike Jonze
And Andrei Tarkovsky
SE7EN is criminally underrated!!! One of the most beautiful darkly lit films I’ve ever seen. That darkness, the rain, the shot of John Doe holding a gun to Brad Pitt. The “7 deadly sins” gimmick of John Doe is unmatched by any of the other films in the serial killer genre. And best of all, Fincher completely subverts the serial killer genre by having John Doe *spoilers LOL* turn himself in. Just about a perfect movie that I believe is overlooked because of how much “whats in the boxxxxxxx” has been referenced in pop culture over the years.
I couldn't agree more.
Underrated? It's Fincher's most acclaimed film.
@@radentstwo9793 You’re right lol. I don’t think its his most acclaimed film because of the Social Network & Fight Club, but it’s not underrated. I meant relative to this video.
@@radentstwo9793 Ehm... Fight Club?
There actually was nothing unrealistic about the media in Gone Girl...
Yeah, for real, I definitely feel like I've seen ridiculous news stories and murder conspiracy theories get sensationalized on television like that and just go on and on for weeks in an extremely similar way as the film depicts. Unfortunatley I can't think of examples in the moment, LOL, but I definitely feel like that's a common thing.
@@Wawagirl17 Casey Anthony, Lacey Peterson, happens all the time
@@Wawagirl17 I'll give you one of the best ongoing examples. The indian media's handling of Sushant Singh Rajput's suicide.
that they care so much and report every little detail was a bit over the top
@@danielw2460 lol you just haven’t followed that kind of coverage before, the media has certainly been that obsessed in the past, a la Nancy Grace & Casey Anthony which they clearly referenced in Gone Girl
Personally, it's gotta be Fight Club, everything from the style (which I kinda like) to the performances. I think there is a lot you can say about the film, I wish it was respected back then by the critics.
Bruh, the pure rebellious vibe that oozes out of this movie. Also, the OST slaps.
@@akhiltrc9708 dude he’ll yeah man, the soundtrack bangs!
It sure beats the snot out of The Social Network.
Zodiac is probably one of the most satisfying movies ever, I mean that final line and that cut to black with Hurdy Gurdy playing I mean COME ON.
TGWTDT was an incredible film adaptation both aesthetically and true to the source material. The soundtrack was *chefs kiss* and Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara did amazing work. Totally underrated IMO. Thanks Karsten!
Agreed!! Rooney Mara as Lisbeth made me realize I'm attracted to women lmao. Such a badass character in a very different way from the forced ~boss babe~ trope
Yeah it’s so sad that we never got the sequels
Loved this video Karsten. Keep at it man :)
I seriously need to watch through this man’s filmography
You seriously do Mr. Talks Movies.
Oh hello didn’t expect to see you guys here
Yes, you do
Yes you do.
yes you do
I hate to be that guy, but the Gary Oldman domestic abuse charges were dropped almost 20 years ago and his wife had a history of drug abuse. Oldman even got custody of his children. Do not accuse someone of being an awful person without any real evidence to back it up
Agree.. if he gonna criticized then criticize like Seven .. don’t mention or make a joke..
That's society nowadays for ya!
Believe it or not both Fincher and Oldman were married to the same woman and both produced children with her. And now they've worked together on Mank.
@@nbvu1 That's crazy. I had no idea.
ok Robert Duvall😁
man, I can't wait for The Social Network 2
My Space
Honestly yeah with how much controversy and news Facebook has made since it started, instead of a biopic it could be kind of like a crime drama
I wish he would continue the Millenium series.
@@bradyrobinson4953 Sorkin (the writer of the first film and responsible for the impeccable dialogue) said he found a book about Facebook in recent years that he'd love to write a screenplay for, but only if Fincher was directing...here's hoping!!!
I want him to direct World war Z 2.
Aaron Sorkin should also receive a ton of credit for The Social Network’s flawlessness.
Sorkin is the goat
@@kingjewelz9948 facts, I was a little disappointed Karsten didn’t like Chicago 7.
@@benjaminhertzog5951 tbh it wasnt as good as sorkins other movies
@@rickyrougs I completely agree but Karsten really hammered it.
I personally would rank Girl with the Dragon Tattoo much higher but other than that its a good list!
Very underrated, I thought it was really good.
Also my favorite David Fincher movie, IMHO
If Jared Leto doesn’t make his character annoying then it’s not Jared Leto
Haters are super cringe. Especially ones way less talented than those they critique.
He's not very annoying in Requiem for a Dream
@@tenfoldtuesday5917 true. That, and if you find him annoying in Dallas Buyers Club, that just makes you transphobic piece of trash. Haters don't win. And they never will.
@@RevRyukin7 why didn't they get a trans person for the role... down with leto
@@RevRyukin7 I think he's absolutely a decent actor and he's likely more talented than me... but he's also an alleged sexual predator, cult leader and confirmed cause of constant irritation to his peers.
Zodiac. The pacing and sense of dread is sublime with some of the most tense scenes in all of cinema.
fight club is my favorite movie EVER but the social network could go on for hours and hours and i wouldnt get bored
me every 5 seconds: omg yes i need to re-watch that
While the social network is definitely his best work, Gone Girl is my favorite. I don’t think I’ll ever forget the first time I watched it and how shocked I was by it. And the fact that they brought Gillian Flynn herself to write the screenplay was genius work. I disagree with you on the media bit though. She was Amazing Amy, a widely known person that had many children’s stories based off of her likeness, she was very well known as a person. It’s not really shocking that the media acted the way it did, hell we live in 2020. It’s definitely in my top 10 of all time and love it more with every rewatch.
Gone Girl
The Social Network
Zodiac
Fight Club
Se7en
The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Mank
The Game
Panic Room
Alien 3
A TRUE MASTER OF CINEMA
We need a Hitchcock Rank, at least with the talkies
He did like 60 movies... Maybe like a top 25
@@nationalcoasternews5798 I still wish he made more 😔
Why atleast his Talkies, The Lodger is easily one of his better films
@@aggohyf Agreed, The Lodger was very very good
I'm wondering which his #2 would be?
The Social Network is easily my favorite David Fincher movie.
That’s my second favorite film ever but in my opinion seven is a little bit better
Dragon Tattoo is so underrated 😭
@@johnyoutube3053 agreed
This is just my interpretation, but I don't think Fight Club is trying to be a 'critique of capitalism' movie. Rather, I think it just uses that to represent general rebellion against the system, which happens to be capitalist and consumerist. Personally, I interpret Fight Club as saying that neither the super materialist capitalist life nor the Tyler Durden anarchist life are any way to live, and that one should balance those extremes to live a fulfilling life .
Yeah someone can't really be super focused and love the critique of capitalism, while also speaking on how Tyler is idolized wrongfully too often. It is in of itself a contradictory statement you either recognize both sides the film is addressing, or focus on one specific side. Each character is one side of a whole. People often get too caught up in which one of their beliefs they perceive a film to be validating.
"I think it just uses that to represent general rebellion against the system, which happens to be capitalist and consumerist." how is that different? its depicting rebellion against the current system - which is capitalism - so its a critique of capitalism
if it was depicting rebellion against a different system it would manifest differently and be a fundamentally different film
its universal because of its specificity - and it specifically talks about the kind of alienation specific to late capitalism.
and the way alienation leaves a void men fill by being vulnerable to joining quasi-fascist groups is part of the critique of capitalism
people are so desperate for any alternative they fall under the sway of bad ones.
Girl with the dragon tattoo is one of my favorite movies. I love how cold it is and I enjoy the crime aspect. The way people are describing the basement scene Zodiac is similar to how I felt when watching Daniel Craig go back in the house at the end of gwtdt
YES. The Girl with The Dragon Tattoo is my third favorite Fincher movie, only passed by Gone Girl and The Social Network. The atmosphere is easily the most developed and mesmerizing in any of his films, the characters are fascinating to me, and yeah, that scene when he goes back to the house is just as if not more tense to me than the basement scene because there’s more evidence pointing towards Martin being the killer than the guy in Zodiac.
I actually enjoyed this film even more on a rewatch and everyone says its one of those films that they don't want to see again lol
i think i've never disagreed more with a list lol
nice video karsten, keep the good work, still waiting for that Almodovar list!
I always felt The Game was underrated. One of my favorite movie endings of all time. It is also almost even more enjoyable on a 2nd watch.
What a good movie. I was somewhat hesitant about watching it because of the premise, but at the end it had me hooked
Ah Fincher, the man that made me love cinema
The first time that I watched The Social Network was when I was 14, and it instantly became my favourite film. I didn't even know why but it was just perfect to me. I am now much more into filmmaking and I understand why I love this film in so many more ways and after all the other great films I have seen since it still remains my favourite of all time. I am so glad you see it as a masterpiece the same way I do.
Fight Club was just genius in my opinion. All of the little details were striking. One of the most rewatchable films in my opinion. I just watched it yesterday as a matter of fact.
David Fincher is by far my favorite director. I love every single one of his films.
My ranking:
1. Fight Club
2. Zodiac
3. Se7en
4. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
5. Gone Girl
6. The Social Network
7. Mank
8. The Game
9. Panic Room
10. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
11.Alien³
I’m so glad you love zodiac!!! It’s my favorite and I think it doesn’t get it’s deserved praise!
You should do a Coen Brothers Ranking! I feel like those guys always capture something unique anytime they make a movie.
The Social Network is my favorite Finicher movie and probably in my top 5 of all time. It's become a comfort movie for me where I'll put it on to have it in the background while I do something else or if I'm bored and have nothing to do. I can almost recite the entire thing line for line.
Karsten, as much as I appreciate the lack of spoilers, I am dying for an elaboration on The Game.
"... and some guy I've never heard of..." I burst out laughing
And to answer your question: Social Network and Seven are my 2 favorites from Fincher
I hope he was joking, but with karsen, you never know lol
@@ninja_tony I do believe he was joking because at this point a film fan (for better or worse) knows about Mr. Spacey. But I do see your point 😁
Thanks for your sincere compliment I really appreciate.🥰😍
Fun Fact: Kevin Spacey was an Executive Producer on The Social Network.
Please watch “Memories of murder”, it has to be the best crime film ever. It’s kinda similar to Zodiac, but in a Korean setting and directed by Bong Joon Ho
He’s watched it, he likes it less than Zodiac, which I find weird because it does everything Zodiac does well and (in MoM does it better), and it did it first.
“Suit & Tie” is such a cool music video
in gone girl, the press cared so much because rosamund pike’s character amy elliot dunne’s parents had written a series of books loosely based off of amy. i assume most people in the film grew up with the amazing amy books, therefore explaining why the fuck they all cared so much about a missing middle aged woman
Yooo what I never got this
I couldn’t disagree with this list more, yet I totally respect it, and I think that’s a testament to Fincher’s body of work.
You could disagree more. You could consider Alien 3 at any spot other than last, which, uh, isn‘t gonna happen.
Half of which is not very much, btw. I mean, if Fincher is 'one of the greatest directors of all time' what the fck is someone like Kubrick?
@@johnstrawb3521 this guy said in his kubrik ranking he thinks kubrik is the greatest of all time so there you go
@@johnstrawb3521 possibly the greatest filmmaker of all time.
@tommaso giobbi in my opinion top 3 is cemented Kubrick Hitchcock and Spielberg
*"Christopher Nolan Ranked"* I need it!
Why?
Rank the Nolan films
“It’s not possible”
No. It’s necessary.
Aahh.... Here comes nolan fanboy
@@sameerahmed-gx8js I mean I like Kubrick a decent bit more but he’s just so damn good. He kind of *has* to rank them too
@@sameerahmed-gx8js ahhh...here comes the anti nolan circle jerkers basically begging for likes. You could've at least written a comment that makes grammatical sense. Pathetic.
@@Luca-bv5ic your comment proves that you're a fanboy.... My one sentence offend you so much..... Of course my English is pathetic cause I'm not a native speaker..... Booo fanboy
@@sameerahmed-gx8js Bruh, Nolan isn't even my favourite director. Nice assumption, but an incorrect one. You're the one who out of the blue started screeching about Nolan fanboys just because someone quoted one of his movies. If anyone is the reactionary here, it's you.
The dialogue of the intro in the social network is my fav movie intro ever
Your enthusiasm for The Social Network is everything! It’s easily one of my favorite movies ever.
The Social Network was the film that made me realize, oh wait THIS is film. It made me fall in love with another kind of cinema, one separate from the marvel and Disney movies. It was the missing puzzle piece that helped me figure out like, holy shit I love films. IT IS A MASTERPIECE!!!
Girl With the Dragon Tattoo used to be toward the bottom of my list, but on rewatch it shot to near the top. The weird 5-act structure seriously threw me off the first go-'round, but now it seems revolutionary. Also, the generational divides of the story become what the film is about for me - the Boomer villains, the half-assed, depressed Gen-X protagonist, and the Millennial - who actually saves the day - gains faith only to be heartbroken and left at sea in the end. Really heartbreaking. For symbolic backup, please note the Gen-X B-plot of 'should we sell out 'Millennium' magazine to the Boomers?'
The relationship between the protagonists is unusual (probably mostly because Lisbeth is such a unique character) and great
Seven is my favorite at this point. I actually think the build up to the third act is perfect and still entertaining. And also, it's Morgan Freeman's best performance of all time.
god i’m so happy the social network is at number one. definitely one of my favorite films of all times
“The biggest perfectionist” what a spit in the face of Michael haneke
or kubrick for that matter
@@ggiufa7289 I think he meant out of people who are working on film at the moment.
Bro i knew it, when i saw you re-ranked every Fincher movie on Letterboxd i expected this ranking.
I remember watching The Social Network in theaters when I was only 14 and immediately became obsessed with it just due to how every element of the movie from the screenplay, to the score, to the cinematography was just brilliant - but at that age most of the people my age couldn't understand why I liked "the facebook movie" so much. Nice to be here over a decade later and knowing my love for that movie was justified and it continues to get the hype it deserves
My Fincher List: (With a little Spoiler for The Game)
11: Alien 3 (oh boy I hate it)
10: Benjamin Button (watched it like 3 years ago and can't remember anything)
9: Panic Romm (just cool to watch, but nothing special)
8: Mank (felt like 4 hours)
7: The Social Network (Jesse Eisenberg acting....nope)
6: The Game (SPOILER: the ending ISN'T dark)
5: Gone Girl (another fincher movie with a shitty ending)
4: with a big gap to TOP5 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Rooney Mara)
Zodiac, Se7en and Fight Club are Number 1. Everytime I watch any of these three movies I say "Yes that's the best Fincher". Can't really decide, 'cause they're all Masterpieces.
the social network wouldve never worked if everyone wasnt in peak performance mode
from the actors, to the writing, to finchers directing, even extending towards trent reznor and atticus ross' score
it just all works so well together, for me its the best fincher film
If you love Zodiac, I really think you'd love Memories of Murder (if you haven't watched it already). A lot of crime thrillers take the necessity of the investigation for granted, but Memories of Murder really taps into humans' search for answers, resolution and justice and questions what is the best method to achieve these things.
If you've already seen it, I would love to see a Bong Joon-ho ranking!
The Social Network is my favourite of Fincher's filmography. 😌
Nice. I feel similar but naw. Se7en is my film
It’s my third.
OMG, you haven't rewatched The girl with the dragon tattoo?! Have definitely watched it at least 10 times and ... yep, it does drive you nuts, but it feels so rewarding lol.
Referring to Kevin spacey as “Some guy I’ve never heard of” is hilarious
Great video, i'm looking forward to watch all Fincher movies. Hoping i like them.
Thank you. The Social Network is literally a perfect movie. I’ve seen it like 15+ times and you’re damn right that there’s not a single flaw in it the entire film
I like the penguin special effects and weird sequences in fight club. Like the narration over all his material possessions going over his apartment, and green tinted time lapses cut aways ect. I think to many movies are afraid to go at it hard with their style. Fight club might have carbon dated itself in the 2000's but that's part of the charm.
Gone Girl is probably my favorite Fincher film because it feels like the pinnacle of everything he’s ever done. In most Fincher films, two characters are at odds with each other which slowly reveals and changes their character, but in Gone Girl, they actively destroy each other until they’re each left to their bare essentials. Most Fincher films are about the investigators of crimes, but Gone Girl is about the victims and perpetrators, going deep into the crime itself. It’s my second favorite looking out of his films after Mank, the score is enthralling, and it never stops being deliciously, mysteriously, entertaining. Social Network and Zodiac are definitely both top 4 though.
The social network is a full fledged masterpiece, I'll be talking about it when Im 50
only a certified Madonna fan would make such statement, fact.
First time watcher and now a follower!! Great commentary. Thank you!
Great video! We love Fight Club and also loved Mind Hunter on Netflix.
Definitely agree with Social Network at the top. One of the things I love about it is how Fincher takes Sorkin’s writing which is usually pretty romantic and optimistic and essentially unlocks the darkness in it. Really shows you how strong his control of a film is, as I feel like most directors have often been almost overshadowed by the writing when working with Sorkin
A Paul Thomas Anderson ranking would be sick
0:50 alien 3
1:20 panic room
2:08 t.c.c.o.b.b.
3:22 mank
4:45 t.g.w.t.d.t.
5:58 Seven
6:55 the game
7:41 fight club
9:41 gone girl
11:29 zodiac
13:06 t.s.n.
i didnt know about the hâte on benjamin’s button, i personally love this movie, this is the story of a pure man shown through the complex simplicity of the life he’s trynna control, it just feels so beautiful i don’t get why people hate it that much
Your list is spot on. Perfecto
The Social Network in a couple of years will be a cult movie. Simply a contemporary masterpiece.
I believe it already is
I truly believe the curious case of Benjamin button is the best film, but that’s only my opinion...🤷🏽♂️
Mindhunter is an absolute masterpiece
Great vid! You make some valid points. At this point in my life, my list looks like this:
1. The Social Network
2. Zodiac
3. Fight Club
4. Seven
5. Gone Girl
6. The Game
7. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
8. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
9. Alien 3
10. Panic Room
--- I haven't seen Mank yet.
Dang, was disappointed to see se7en so low. One of my all time favorite movies with arguably the best plot twist of all time. Banger of a film
se7en has got to be my fav film of fincher's. it's got the second best (twist) ending of all time (first being oldboy)
Personally, I think that “Fight Club” should be on 2nd place, just because of it rewatchability, but I can overlook this. Otherwise, the ranking is very good and respectable. Good job, good video!
So Fight Club is the best critique on Capitalism, but also even Fincher has done a better job of it? I don't understand.
fight club is as subtle as animal farm and not as deep as it thinks it is
@@johnyoutube3053 being subtle is overrated. If ur gonna have a theme or message just make it clear
@@johnyoutube3053 its not actually overated just for having on the nose themes because you can have lots of different interpretations of fight club its not a black and white film. it not just saying muh capitalism bad its also critiquing anarchy, lack of purpose, hypermasculinity, consumerism, loneliness, mental illness and lots of other shit. Tyler Durden is not a role model or a hero for blowing up a bunch of buildings he's just a terrorist at the end of the day with relatable goals
@@christucker7655 This is what many fail to interpret. They focus on one or two of the themes which validate their beliefs best and miss everything else. Fight Club is not an answer to any question, it is asking the questions. No one takes the time to think about why so many men relate to one part or another of Fight Club.
I've been watching these ranking videos a lot lately, and this is my favorite so far. You're funny, the editing is spicy, and your choices are excellent. Yes, I'd swap out Gone Girl and The Game for Fight Club and Seven, but I didn't want to yell at my computer screen like usual. Easy sub. Great job!
YES I'm so happy the social network is first! IT IS A MASTERPIECE !!
'Zodiac' is my favorite of Fincher's. The mood alone is so dense and engaging, I remember thinking "I should've been a movie director".
Number two is 'The Social Network'.
Haven't seen 'Mank' though; I'm a huge Fincher fan, but I decided against watching it until after I've watched 'Citizen Kane'.
I'm looking forward to 2 Social 2 Network.
Underrated
Social network is overrated IMO
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You forgot to mention that The Social Network has one of the best opening scenes of all time! Great list Karsten!
Fight club is top 3 movies of all time for me I just love it so much. And I loved the ending so much.