Greetings from the USA. A great group of two strokes at the Loomie's meet-up. We never got the LC or the TZR in the US, but we did get the YPVS LC2 as the RZ350. We have the same problems with ethanol based fuel here too. I still have my LC2/RZ350. I still ride it regularly. Love the two strokes.😊
@@Scott-ph2yk Greetings! 😊 I never knew the US didn’t get the LC. Wow. I know the TZR didn’t get there, the 3XV was a Japanese only bike, but there’s several guys on the TZR forum from stateside that have imported and restored them! Thanks for your comment and I hope you get a solution for the fuel for your RZ!
I love 2 strokes!! I'm in the process of learning how to edit and make my own videos of my TZR. I just uploaded a small video of my TZR 1kt with no editing just for the heck of it but I need some things before I can start for real. Cheers!
I'm famous at last, I'll be expecting royalties for my name dropping and showing MY amazing bike. I use storage fuel plus from the same supplier, totally ethanol free too. Btw cost £375 to have the system cleared and the carbs rebuilt, not just rubbers and gaskets but emulsion tubes as well....
I think we can come to an arrangement with the royalties - I'll buy you a cuppa at the Hayling Island bike night! Your experience with ethanol is the main reason I switched after Esso dropped the ball for everyone. Horrendous cost for repair! The bike runs so much better on quality fuel rather than the mix & rot you get off a forecourt. It's like beer from the cask compared with beer from the drip trays!!!
I run a 50 year old bike, and ethanol just isn’t an issue. As long as you follow some basic rules. Ethanol attracts moisture like you say, if you use the bike regularly for example once a week and use a whole tank, it doesn’t get a chance to absorb moisture. turn the fuel tap off and run the bike out of fuel and coast home clutch in, so there is no fuel in the carbs or fuel lines. Decent quality carb rebuild kits and fuel lines are ethanol proof, you get what you pay for. That said I always try to put the best fuel I can through my bike, but sometimes you just don’t have any option, if you’re doing a long European tour etc. I used to have a TZR reverse cylinder back in the day. I have just been kicking myself for selling it. Turn on horizon levelling and calibrate your camera on a known flat surface to get rid of that angle. I would rather listen to your engine than terrible royalty free music. Nice video and good to see my local roads.
Thank you for your comment. Lots of valuable points! There is a split of opinion in the TZR forum also about how to tackle the ethanol in fuel and you are quite right, there is the option not to let the fuel sit in the carbs/lines by running it dry or draining the carbs if you're laying up over winter. I worry about running it dry as both cylinders don't run out at the same time given the difference in length of fuel hose to each carb. I'm also a little set back for draining the carbs as there's no drain screw on these. If the float bowl had the traditional plug at the bottom it'd be easier to swap jetting too without splitting the carbs but I digress!! Good advice though to save quite a bit of cash. I'll look into the ethanol resistant/proof lines but the carb kits are pretty much fit what you can find!!! Shame you got rid of the 3MA, I know how it feels to look back with such regrets. I sold my original RD 350 in 2014-ish when I was skint and only got £1800 for it despite it being a very nice bike. Roll in ten years and my "new" RD 350 cost me £5k. Ouch. Thanks for the advice on the horizon levelling. I have a DJI Action 3 and it doesn't calibrate correctly. I've spent all morning "fixing" this by using sheets of paper under the right side to set a false horizon that counters the skew the camera has. Well, let's see if that fixes it but statically it seems to work, thanks for the advice here. Yes, sorry about the music, I have learned a lesson there, but glad you like the video and thanks once again for you thoughts & advice!!!
@@mototoki I guess the best thing to do is work out what's best for your bike to work around is particular operating requirements You can get fuel that doesn't go off from garden machinery places like the one in Wickham, it's specifically formulated for winter storage.
@@cliveamp Totally agree! I'm going to do some research to see if I can find float bowls with the plug. That'd be a real help, but as you say, if you're running every week you can use pump fuel, just don't let it sit that long and make sure it's dry/has storage fuel before a layup. I get my fuel from Winchester Garden Machinery - they have Aspen on the shelf but that's a product from Anglo American Oil so they are a distributor and you can get any of the product range delivered. It takes a bit of nagging though!!
@@mototoki yep that's the stuff. Expensive but worth it. Sorry I didn't consider the potential problems of no oil going through a two stroke. You forget everything you once knew. When you've been on four strokes for 25 plus years. If I see your bike up at loonies I will come and say hello. Have you been to caffeine and machine over the road at the hut? They do a Japanese night at the beginning of the month.
@@cliveamp Yeah the Aspen is expensive per LTR, but the R-SUR is much better value. Still stupid expensive though! It'll be great to meet up & I'll definitely make another Loomies this year but Caffeine and the Machine sounds good, is that a weekend or week night thing? Going to Hayling Island if the weather is good next week, haven't been there if you forgive the pun!
Love listening to that TZR of yours😁 Regarding the ethanol in the fuel, I use a fuel conditioner/stabiliser which appears to work🤔 Though it doesn’t stop the plastic tank on my RS250 from expanding 😳 hence I have to have a spare tank ready to swap over after any work is done on the bike. Also the petrol goes ‘off’ a lot quicker if u forget the stabiliser😬 Apart from that it’s ok lol.
Thanks! Hopefully the segment with the music hasn't detracted too much from the song of the TZR! 😅 The fuel stabiliser is a good approach to stop the fuel going off. Great tip 2T or 4T!! 🤩 My son's GS500 was laid up for a couple of years and we had to drain the tank and replace it with fresh fuel to get it to run. Bit scary to hear the ethanol drawing in water and affecting your RS250!!! 😳 When my TZR was on ethanol fuel if I opened the carbs up the carb gaskets would expand and I couldn't refit them until they dries out the following day.
I agree! My misjudgment in the edit - hopefully this answers… On-Board RAW 2-Stroke Sound :: Yamaha TZR 250 #motorcycle #2stroke #exhaust ua-cam.com/users/shortsGyrVeO_axe0
Ethanol is garbage in these bikes and the constant hose swaps are annoying! I have been able to find ethanol free in my area up until just recently because they are starting to ban it😡😤Only a couple stations like Shell are defying the government but that wont last. I am going to have to spend up to 5X the cash for good fuel soon ☹ So are the times we live in...Great video!
@@PurpleMonkeyWaffle Thanks! 🙏 I didn’t know Shell was/is ethanol free. It was rumoured, but I’d not tested any as I has Esso. I’m hoping the Porsche community solve the ethanol problem for us. They are a bigger community with better resources and more in number than the diminishing classic bikers!!!
@@mellowr1 I guess we’re all out of options at the pump these days. At least Anglo American Oil is a thing, and they distribute via garden machine shops!!!
@@mellowr1I live in Ontario Canada. I talked to the store people first hand it is indeed ethanol free unless they are lying. The little sticker at the pumps still say 91 has no ethanol. 87 is 10% and 89 is 5% but they are being pressured by the government here so they said they will be forced to sell only ethanol fuel by the end of this year. When that happens they are taking down/changing the stickers.
Ethanol pain in the butt . I've had fuel hose go from rubber to solid brittle and split in 6 months. Last esso synergy supreme I separated was 3%Ethanol 🙄
@@mellowr1 Same here, in a power cut I had to fire up my generator but when I turned the fuel tap on the fuel came flooding out. Luckily I had spare fuel hose from the TZR build!!!
@@mototoki exactly the same. Turned fuel on on my 125 lc fuel leaking everywhere from where it fitted on the tap. Luckily i had spare hose in the shed😀
In hindsight I made a big mistake in the edit! I’ve put a chapter in the video for “no music” so you can skip forwards 😅 thanks for the feedback, much appreciated 😊
Sorry about that, it was bad judgement in the editing. I was going easy, but for going a bit more aggressive AND no music - here's a short of the TZR - ua-cam.com/users/shortsGyrVeO_axe0
Greetings from the USA. A great group of two strokes at the Loomie's meet-up. We never got the LC or the TZR in the US, but we did get the YPVS LC2 as the RZ350.
We have the same problems with ethanol based fuel here too.
I still have my LC2/RZ350. I still ride it regularly. Love the two strokes.😊
@@Scott-ph2yk Greetings! 😊 I never knew the US didn’t get the LC. Wow. I know the TZR didn’t get there, the 3XV was a Japanese only bike, but there’s several guys on the TZR forum from stateside that have imported and restored them! Thanks for your comment and I hope you get a solution for the fuel for your RZ!
I love 2 strokes!! I'm in the process of learning how to edit and make my own videos of my TZR. I just uploaded a small video of my TZR 1kt with no editing just for the heck of it but I need some things before I can start for real. Cheers!
Its 30 years since I rode a 2-stroke (other than a trials bike) but it’s always with you. The waft of silkolene occasionally takes me back😂
Once experienced it’s always there I agree! The sound & smell is a time machine to the 80s! 😅
Thanks
I'm famous at last, I'll be expecting royalties for my name dropping and showing MY amazing bike. I use storage fuel plus from the same supplier, totally ethanol free too. Btw cost £375 to have the system cleared and the carbs rebuilt, not just rubbers and gaskets but emulsion tubes as well....
I think we can come to an arrangement with the royalties - I'll buy you a cuppa at the Hayling Island bike night! Your experience with ethanol is the main reason I switched after Esso dropped the ball for everyone. Horrendous cost for repair! The bike runs so much better on quality fuel rather than the mix & rot you get off a forecourt. It's like beer from the cask compared with beer from the drip trays!!!
I run a 50 year old bike, and ethanol just isn’t an issue. As long as you follow some basic rules. Ethanol attracts moisture like you say, if you use the bike regularly for example once a week and use a whole tank, it doesn’t get a chance to absorb moisture. turn the fuel tap off and run the bike out of fuel and coast home clutch in, so there is no fuel in the carbs or fuel lines. Decent quality carb rebuild kits and fuel lines are ethanol proof, you get what you pay for.
That said I always try to put the best fuel I can through my bike, but sometimes you just don’t have any option, if you’re doing a long European tour etc.
I used to have a TZR reverse cylinder back in the day. I have just been kicking myself for selling it.
Turn on horizon levelling and calibrate your camera on a known flat surface to get rid of that angle.
I would rather listen to your engine than terrible royalty free music. Nice video and good to see my local roads.
Thank you for your comment. Lots of valuable points!
There is a split of opinion in the TZR forum also about how to tackle the ethanol in fuel and you are quite right, there is the option not to let the fuel sit in the carbs/lines by running it dry or draining the carbs if you're laying up over winter. I worry about running it dry as both cylinders don't run out at the same time given the difference in length of fuel hose to each carb. I'm also a little set back for draining the carbs as there's no drain screw on these. If the float bowl had the traditional plug at the bottom it'd be easier to swap jetting too without splitting the carbs but I digress!! Good advice though to save quite a bit of cash.
I'll look into the ethanol resistant/proof lines but the carb kits are pretty much fit what you can find!!! Shame you got rid of the 3MA, I know how it feels to look back with such regrets. I sold my original RD 350 in 2014-ish when I was skint and only got £1800 for it despite it being a very nice bike. Roll in ten years and my "new" RD 350 cost me £5k. Ouch.
Thanks for the advice on the horizon levelling. I have a DJI Action 3 and it doesn't calibrate correctly. I've spent all morning "fixing" this by using sheets of paper under the right side to set a false horizon that counters the skew the camera has. Well, let's see if that fixes it but statically it seems to work, thanks for the advice here. Yes, sorry about the music, I have learned a lesson there, but glad you like the video and thanks once again for you thoughts & advice!!!
@@mototoki I guess the best thing to do is work out what's best for your bike to work around is particular operating requirements
You can get fuel that doesn't go off from garden machinery places like the one in Wickham, it's specifically formulated for winter storage.
@@cliveamp Totally agree! I'm going to do some research to see if I can find float bowls with the plug. That'd be a real help, but as you say, if you're running every week you can use pump fuel, just don't let it sit that long and make sure it's dry/has storage fuel before a layup.
I get my fuel from Winchester Garden Machinery - they have Aspen on the shelf but that's a product from Anglo American Oil so they are a distributor and you can get any of the product range delivered. It takes a bit of nagging though!!
@@mototoki yep that's the stuff. Expensive but worth it.
Sorry I didn't consider the potential problems of no oil going through a two stroke. You forget everything you once knew. When you've been on four strokes for 25 plus years.
If I see your bike up at loonies I will come and say hello.
Have you been to caffeine and machine over the road at the hut? They do a Japanese night at the beginning of the month.
@@cliveamp Yeah the Aspen is expensive per LTR, but the R-SUR is much better value. Still stupid expensive though!
It'll be great to meet up & I'll definitely make another Loomies this year but Caffeine and the Machine sounds good, is that a weekend or week night thing?
Going to Hayling Island if the weather is good next week, haven't been there if you forgive the pun!
Love listening to that TZR of yours😁 Regarding the ethanol in the fuel, I use a fuel conditioner/stabiliser which appears to work🤔 Though it doesn’t stop the plastic tank on my RS250 from expanding 😳 hence I have to have a spare tank ready to swap over after any work is done on the bike. Also the petrol goes ‘off’ a lot quicker if u forget the stabiliser😬 Apart from that it’s ok lol.
Thanks! Hopefully the segment with the music hasn't detracted too much from the song of the TZR! 😅 The fuel stabiliser is a good approach to stop the fuel going off. Great tip 2T or 4T!! 🤩 My son's GS500 was laid up for a couple of years and we had to drain the tank and replace it with fresh fuel to get it to run. Bit scary to hear the ethanol drawing in water and affecting your RS250!!! 😳 When my TZR was on ethanol fuel if I opened the carbs up the carb gaskets would expand and I couldn't refit them until they dries out the following day.
@@mototoki Evil stuff😳
Respect I would rather hear The 2 stroke
I agree! My misjudgment in the edit - hopefully this answers… On-Board RAW 2-Stroke Sound :: Yamaha TZR 250 #motorcycle #2stroke #exhaust
ua-cam.com/users/shortsGyrVeO_axe0
Jesus fella, I love engineering and tech and naming outher bikes but can we get past 4k
Would prefer to hear the bike instead of music. Because that's real music to your ears.
As I was editing this I was 50:50 if to include it or not! Ok, next time the 2 stroke is the music, thanks for the suggestion, I’ll follow it!
@@mototoki Top man. The sound of two strokes is beautiful. 👍
Every real biker knows this apart from cyclists
Ethanol is garbage in these bikes and the constant hose swaps are annoying! I have been able to find ethanol free in my area up until just recently because they are starting to ban it😡😤Only a couple stations like Shell are defying the government but that wont last. I am going to have to spend up to 5X the cash for good fuel soon ☹ So are the times we live in...Great video!
@@PurpleMonkeyWaffle Thanks! 🙏 I didn’t know Shell was/is ethanol free. It was rumoured, but I’d not tested any as I has Esso. I’m hoping the Porsche community solve the ethanol problem for us. They are a bigger community with better resources and more in number than the diminishing classic bikers!!!
Shell V Power has ethanol, as does BP Ultimate. I emailed both companies years ago.
@@mellowr1 I guess we’re all out of options at the pump these days. At least Anglo American Oil is a thing, and they distribute via garden machine shops!!!
@@mototoki It's expensive at about £4 per liter though😀
@@mellowr1I live in Ontario Canada. I talked to the store people first hand it is indeed ethanol free unless they are lying. The little sticker at the pumps still say 91 has no ethanol. 87 is 10% and 89 is 5% but they are being pressured by the government here so they said they will be forced to sell only ethanol fuel by the end of this year. When that happens they are taking down/changing the stickers.
What is the octane level ?
99, so the same as Tesco / VPower but without the ethanol boosting it. 99 is good as it doesn’t need anything special on timing / fuelling
Ethanol pain in the butt . I've had fuel hose go from rubber to solid brittle and split in 6 months. Last esso synergy supreme I separated was 3%Ethanol 🙄
@@mellowr1 Same here, in a power cut I had to fire up my generator but when I turned the fuel tap on the fuel came flooding out. Luckily I had spare fuel hose from the TZR build!!!
@@mototoki exactly the same. Turned fuel on on my 125 lc fuel leaking everywhere from where it fitted on the tap. Luckily i had spare hose in the shed😀
@@mellowr1 I’m sure this is happening all over, not limited to the UK. I have Aspen storage fuel for the genny now!
@@mototoki I usually run some aspen through fuel system before i lay bikes up for winter👍😎
No music let us hear that thing scream 🥸🥸
In hindsight I made a big mistake in the edit! I’ve put a chapter in the video for “no music” so you can skip forwards 😅 thanks for the feedback, much appreciated 😊
Just turned uo volume to listen to engine and music drowned it out, so om out.
Sorry about that, it was bad judgement in the editing. I was going easy, but for going a bit more aggressive AND no music - here's a short of the TZR - ua-cam.com/users/shortsGyrVeO_axe0
Was enjoying that until the fookin shit music ffs