there are many guitar models from schecter that have this pickups configuration so you have a wide range of guitars to choose from! I have an Apocalypse C7 and love the option to go from djent to coil split. Also, it has a similar satin finish and it feels great!
Does this have tuning problems like the omen series? Ive got an omen8 elite series and i have really bad tuning problems across many different gauge strings ive tried. Thinking about getting an evertune put in it
Dean had an interesting range of multiscale guitars, the neutral fret was at the nut so all of the fans angled in the same direction; to the right if you're looking down at the guitar. Personally I reckon that would be quite comfortable for me - I got my first (and only) multiscale a while back, a Cort KX507, and that has the neutral fret on the 8th. It feels very comfortable to play on all the higher frets but when the fan angle is to the left on the lower frets, it's a bit awkward, especially with barre chords which I'm not great at anyway. I've not seen any other brands do anything like Dean. It's a shame they discontinued that range...it appears they had 6, 7 and 8 string in both a super-Strat and ML (Dimebag shape). They even had multiscale tremolos, a Kahler which I've never used but read that it can be used normally or locked to be like a hardtail. Quite the spec for Dean which is a company I would associate with a very narrow niche. Latest news suggests Dean is kinda falling apart though so I doubt we'll see these again...perhaps another company will try that setup. Ormsby guitars look really cool but it seems like they go the other way in terms of multiscale angles, they seem to be very extreme down towards the nut.
Well... I just got my first 8 string. After playing for a day. I know which 8 string I'm getting next. The body material is Swamp Ash xD. I get swamp ash when I go outside in Texas.
@@platinumpengwinmusic5564 i agree on some of their models. I have an omen 8 and it looks metal asf, but its also shaped a bit weird for playing, the balance is way off, and i keep hitting the switches and nobs cause they are way too close. I love it but it does have issues, it can be very unwieldy.
@@mato2677 Man, I posted this 8 months ago, never got it! It was too back-ordered. Decided to change to an Ernie Ball Majesty 8 instead. Should be here soon.
To be the best Schecter, is going to take a long term test, will the neck remain stable, will the forward bow remain steady under temperature, humidity, and string gauge changes, do they have multi piece necks, square truss rods, and carbon fiber reinforcement beams? High end necks can stay within .002" forward bow for years.
I don't like the look, but, mechanically, it is Schecter's best eight string so far. I just wish it wasn't such a unfortunate design colour-wise (in my meaningless opinion).
Honestly, I'm not sure the 27inch scale is the best for an 8 string unless you're not planning to go lower than F#. They've got other models with longer scale lengths which seem like better options if you're okay with straight scale guitars, like the Damien Platinum and the Hybrid. Hard to say about the pickups though, as this one has Rob Scallon's whereas the other Schecters have EMGs (808s or the 57/66s). It is their best multiscale though, as the Silver Mountain versions are the same scale length but with reportedly crappy pickups.
@@someguy7448 it's not ideal - I'm sure it'll work OK, but most people would prefer a longer scale length to keep tension. But then again some people are like Jason Richardson, who plays F# standard on a 25.5 🤷♂️
I’ve been looking for a good 8-string with passive pickups for several years now, initially thinking about Schechter’s C-8 MS Silver Mountain, but this looks way better, glad I waited! I do wish there was a 9-string version. Little torn between wanting 8 or 9. My main inspiration for wanting 9 is Mick Gordon/DOOM. One thing I don’t understand - the push-pull switch on the C-8 gives single coil tones, they say. Does the switch on this one do the exact same?
@@katten39 Awesome! I just ordered it the other day with 48-month financing and tax-free thanks to Delaware Guitar Center. Now I just gotta wait for the “backordered” status to clear… haha
@@Bloorgusgoorge Will do! It’s still back-ordered. Purchased in October, and it’s been pushed back several times. Next shipping estimation is December 29th I think, but I’m not holding my breath. :/
Anyway you and Johnny could make a if pop punk was deathcore. Taking popular pop punk songs and making then deathcore. Maybe each part of a song could be as long as your best riff series or riff evolution 20 or 30 seconds. Thanks for saving this guitar for me, I wasn't sure the pickups were good for chugs. Stay metal ray's video was good as well!
@@BaenaCarcosa I know. If you remember, I've asked i think 2 or 3 times for pop punk type of content from you. But you've said its not your thing, sorry I'll stop asking haha. I like most genres but deathcore, metalcore, punk, pop punk, ska, and club music are my favorite. Deathcore is best though!
Don't know if you're gonna read this but I'm looking at a legator lp7 or whatever it's called. Headless fan fret 7 string for 1000$ usd. Is it worth it? It'll be my first headless multi scale. I played it and loved it though
Very eerie sounding song, it sent chills down my spine. For some reason my fingers go the opposite direction of the fanned frets at either end of the guitar neck. Which string gauge should I use to drop E on a 25.5 scale JP70MD? I want to learn this song. I'm using 10-62 Cobalt Ernie Ball 2730's in Drop G. Any suggestions?
How many of you guys would like to see a band that has two bass players and an eight string guitar player? (Animals as leaders is already kind of doing a similar thing)
No hate dude, but I can’t even hear that guitar over the rest of the music. I would never buy this guitar listening to this demo alone. Maybe demo it without all the other stuff.
I haven't bought a guitar in over 10yrs. As a lefty it is so hard to find a decent guitar with awesome specs and looks. Shecter and Rob outdid them with this one, so ordered one after all those years of browsing for a great 8 string. Also what a great review. Though I still like Mayones as well 😉
I wish you showed off some distorted split coil tones too, the super twangy split bridge distorted tone you showed in your Ormsby HYPE GTR8 demo way back is one of my favorites I've heard on the channel, it made me obsessed with the feature
He did try the coil split on the bridge pickup in this demo, it doesn't seem to sound as good as that ultra-heavy twang of the Ormsby you mentioned though. I searched for the video you mentioned to check it out and apparently I did watch it years ago according to UA-cam! Anyways had another listen and it sounded great. Better than a lot of the newer guitars that Andrew has demoed. I suppose there are a lot of aspects that go into making the perfect distorted tone. I love heavy and downturned split coil/single coil tones myself...I have a Schecter Reaper-6 atm and the pickups sound pretty average in humbucker mode, high enough output but just kinda muddy. But in split coil mode they sound great, really aggressive and tight sounding. The Rob Scallon model here does sound pretty good for an 8 string pickup but the Ormsby is better, and so is the Schecter Tao 8 that Andrew has reviewed more recently. I believe the pickups in the Rob Scallon model aren't Schecter's own manufactured USA pickups but import models made by the overseas guitar manufacturer (usually South Korea for their higher end import models). Not that it definitely means the non-USA pickups won't be as good, just interesting to see how they go about doing custom pickups for signature models. Perhaps they are able to customise them more effectively for the USA pickups and have more ability to get every aspect perfect to the artist's desires.
Depending on your tuning its not much different, just takes a bit of getting used to your "b" string shift being in a different spot if ya get me, like its in the same place but it just gives the illusion that its not if that makes any sense. You could of course tune that out but that makes some chord shapes quite difficult. It only took me a few days to get used to it and now i cant go back, a 6 string just feels like a toy now.
27 is enough but 28 or 30 is preferred i agree. For most, 27 inch scale can go down to D with a .072 .074 or .080. Maybe .085 for D but 74 or 80 is enough.
You can get tunings like drop E to sound great on less than 27 inches if you really want to. It’s really not as important as you might think if you’re not too concerned about your tension having absolutely perfect balance
For 1600$ bucks there are far better options out there. If schecter really wants to compete with other brands, throw in some pickups prople know or make the price point lower.
The mahogany strip down the front of the guitar is atrocious. Such a ugly brown and makes it look cheesy. Inlays on the fret board are useless and looks wrong to only have it on half. I get it’s his sign but. No inlays and a solid cold too would have been so much more tasteful. The rest of the specs are great though!!
For more information on the Rob Scallon C8 from Schecter Guitars: imp.i114863.net/QOgG7z
Over priced over hyped pos
Love the humble coloring and overall look of it.
If you know anything about sleeper cars, then this is the sleeper guitar, I'd call it exactly that.
Nah man that wood grain looks beautiful. Not sure about color scheme tho.
knowing Rob Scallon, this has to be the most versatile guitar ever
I mean, he literally designed it to be extremely versatile.
there are many guitar models from schecter that have this pickups configuration so you have a wide range of guitars to choose from!
I have an Apocalypse C7 and love the option to go from djent to coil split. Also, it has a similar satin finish and it feels great!
Such a classy looking 8 string guitar!
great video as always andrew!
When are you going to get your own Schecter Signature?
That's a beast of a guitar! Not as beastly as the Fredrik Signature Ibanez, but still sexy!
nice
There was a time when 8 string guitars were designed by someone who didn't play them at all...
Does this have tuning problems like the omen series?
Ive got an omen8 elite series and i have really bad tuning problems across many different gauge strings ive tried.
Thinking about getting an evertune put in it
👍
Eighth!
The neutral fret placement is the genius of this guitar IMHO.
Dean had an interesting range of multiscale guitars, the neutral fret was at the nut so all of the fans angled in the same direction; to the right if you're looking down at the guitar. Personally I reckon that would be quite comfortable for me - I got my first (and only) multiscale a while back, a Cort KX507, and that has the neutral fret on the 8th. It feels very comfortable to play on all the higher frets but when the fan angle is to the left on the lower frets, it's a bit awkward, especially with barre chords which I'm not great at anyway.
I've not seen any other brands do anything like Dean. It's a shame they discontinued that range...it appears they had 6, 7 and 8 string in both a super-Strat and ML (Dimebag shape). They even had multiscale tremolos, a Kahler which I've never used but read that it can be used normally or locked to be like a hardtail. Quite the spec for Dean which is a company I would associate with a very narrow niche. Latest news suggests Dean is kinda falling apart though so I doubt we'll see these again...perhaps another company will try that setup.
Ormsby guitars look really cool but it seems like they go the other way in terms of multiscale angles, they seem to be very extreme down towards the nut.
What does this do?
Well... I just got my first 8 string. After playing for a day. I know which 8 string I'm getting next. The body material is Swamp Ash xD. I get swamp ash when I go outside in Texas.
LMAOOO
It doesn’t look like the average Schecter metal machine. It kinda looks classy.
I always side-eyed schecter, like they were trying so hard to look metal, it was a gimmick. But once I saw this guitar, I put my order in.
@@platinumpengwinmusic5564 i agree on some of their models.
I have an omen 8 and it looks metal asf, but its also shaped a bit weird for playing, the balance is way off, and i keep hitting the switches and nobs cause they are way too close.
I love it but it does have issues, it can be very unwieldy.
@@mato2677 Man, I posted this 8 months ago, never got it! It was too back-ordered. Decided to change to an Ernie Ball Majesty 8 instead. Should be here soon.
@@platinumpengwinmusic5564 damn thats a shame, id love to know if these kinks have been ironed out.
Let us know how the ernie feels when ya get it
@@mato2677 I will save this comment, and definitely let you know my honest thoughts.🎸
Dude, I've been struggling to find good string gauge for chords in drop E .. what's the set on this one?
Just a simple 10-74 or 10-80 set is all I use for Drop E
Depends on your neck, with a multiscale like this, a 10-80 is probably damn near perfect. A normal neck you'd have to experiment like I did lol
76 gauge is as far as i need to go for Drop E in my baritone
To be the best Schecter, is going to take a long term test, will the neck remain stable, will the forward bow remain steady under temperature, humidity, and string gauge changes, do they have multi piece necks, square truss rods, and carbon fiber reinforcement beams? High end necks can stay within .002" forward bow for years.
Crazy the clarity in the clean channel. Especially for an 8. It's kinda nutz.
The song slaps. The demo is good as always.
Not a fan if the 2 tone, but cool specs though on the guitar.
If schecter drops another version of this in the original colours (raw wood w the brown stripe up the middle), I may have to bankrupt myself
What was your recommend for the most darkest warming metal guitar eighth string ? be this one or what other one would you recommend under $2000?
Rob knows his stuff.
I don't like the look, but, mechanically, it is Schecter's best eight string so far. I just wish it wasn't such a unfortunate design colour-wise (in my meaningless opinion).
The lighting in this video doesn’t do it any favours tbf, the red doesn’t come out at all
Honestly, I'm not sure the 27inch scale is the best for an 8 string unless you're not planning to go lower than F#. They've got other models with longer scale lengths which seem like better options if you're okay with straight scale guitars, like the Damien Platinum and the Hybrid. Hard to say about the pickups though, as this one has Rob Scallon's whereas the other Schecters have EMGs (808s or the 57/66s). It is their best multiscale though, as the Silver Mountain versions are the same scale length but with reportedly crappy pickups.
it looks like coffee beans
@@KarzGuitar wait so it's good to go below F# or no?
@@someguy7448 it's not ideal - I'm sure it'll work OK, but most people would prefer a longer scale length to keep tension.
But then again some people are like Jason Richardson, who plays F# standard on a 25.5 🤷♂️
I’ve been looking for a good 8-string with passive pickups for several years now, initially thinking about Schechter’s C-8 MS Silver Mountain, but this looks way better, glad I waited! I do wish there was a 9-string version. Little torn between wanting 8 or 9. My main inspiration for wanting 9 is Mick Gordon/DOOM. One thing I don’t understand - the push-pull switch on the C-8 gives single coil tones, they say. Does the switch on this one do the exact same?
Yes, the push pull splits the humbuckers!
@@katten39 Awesome! I just ordered it the other day with 48-month financing and tax-free thanks to Delaware Guitar Center. Now I just gotta wait for the “backordered” status to clear… haha
@@NovianLeVanMusicplease let me know your opinion on it!
@@Bloorgusgoorge Will do! It’s still back-ordered. Purchased in October, and it’s been pushed back several times. Next shipping estimation is December 29th I think, but I’m not holding my breath. :/
@@NovianLeVanMusic Hello Novian i was just wondering how is the guitar?
Porque nadie usa este tipo de guitarras para hacer cosas interessantes en vez de hacer solo ruido?
The fact that you called it the best they made yet and then you say you’ve only had one other one makes no sense it’s not really a good valid point
27 just seems to short. 28 would be much better imo
2:47 UGH. GOD YES.
You really sold that baby - plus, great song! Love your attitude and stuff! Thx, man!
That's still such a beautiful guitar
A few more weeks before mine gets here!
Will be tuned to drop E as well.
Ok, as a fellow canadian, i want this 8 string, where do we get it?
Try a place called Tundra Music based in Ontario. Got my first schecter from there and im Canadian as well, cheers
Anyway you and Johnny could make a if pop punk was deathcore. Taking popular pop punk songs and making then deathcore. Maybe each part of a song could be as long as your best riff series or riff evolution 20 or 30 seconds.
Thanks for saving this guitar for me, I wasn't sure the pickups were good for chugs. Stay metal ray's video was good as well!
Haha I doubt I can convince Johnny to do that, neither of us really like pop punk
@@BaenaCarcosa I know. If you remember, I've asked i think 2 or 3 times for pop punk type of content from you. But you've said its not your thing, sorry I'll stop asking haha. I like most genres but deathcore, metalcore, punk, pop punk, ska, and club music are my favorite. Deathcore is best though!
Debating between this or the C8 Multi Scale SLS Evil Twin. How do the Schecter pickups compare to the likes of Fishman, DiMarzio etc.
thats the good point, so what guitar did you buy? I'm also thinking about buying C8 Multi Scale SLS Evil Twin
I absolutely Loooove schecter.
And baena.
A longer scale version would be nicer.
Don't know if you're gonna read this but I'm looking at a legator lp7 or whatever it's called. Headless fan fret 7 string for 1000$ usd. Is it worth it? It'll be my first headless multi scale. I played it and loved it though
Very eerie sounding song, it sent chills down my spine. For some reason my fingers go the opposite direction of the fanned frets at either end of the guitar neck. Which string gauge should I use to drop E on a 25.5 scale JP70MD? I want to learn this song. I'm using 10-62 Cobalt Ernie Ball 2730's in Drop G. Any suggestions?
How many of you guys would like to see a band that has two bass players and an eight string guitar player? (Animals as leaders is already kind of doing a similar thing)
Is that green guitar directly behind your head a Kenny Hickey custom? If so, GREAT Taste!!!!!!
Hipshot with multi-scale or Evertune for 8-string guitars? I'm torn between which one is better.
No hate dude, but I can’t even hear that guitar over the rest of the music. I would never buy this guitar listening to this demo alone. Maybe demo it without all the other stuff.
I haven't bought a guitar in over 10yrs. As a lefty it is so hard to find a decent guitar with awesome specs and looks. Shecter and Rob outdid them with this one, so ordered one after all those years of browsing for a great 8 string. Also what a great review. Though I still like Mayones as well 😉
It's like wearing a brown belt with black shoes😂 L colors W guitar
uuunnhhh, super sick! hits ya with all the "bwwwoooooowww"! haha. beautiful guitar!
Awesome song bud. My style is psychotic punk at the rodeo compared to your modern riffs.
Did you adjust the action since receiving it? looks much lower than what i have
look up C8 evil twin, that is the best schecter 8 string.
I'm assuming about 1200-1500, nice as fuck.
Really like your song a lot. Intro sounded like a giant monster movie
tasty mix as always
I wanna know where I can get that hot pink guitar strap in the background, nice schecter too!
I wish you showed off some distorted split coil tones too, the super twangy split bridge distorted tone you showed in your Ormsby HYPE GTR8 demo way back is one of my favorites I've heard on the channel, it made me obsessed with the feature
I did a little bit in the soloed guitar portion
@@BaenaCarcosa Completely missed that one right before the cleans start! Sounds super sick here as well
He did try the coil split on the bridge pickup in this demo, it doesn't seem to sound as good as that ultra-heavy twang of the Ormsby you mentioned though. I searched for the video you mentioned to check it out and apparently I did watch it years ago according to UA-cam! Anyways had another listen and it sounded great. Better than a lot of the newer guitars that Andrew has demoed. I suppose there are a lot of aspects that go into making the perfect distorted tone. I love heavy and downturned split coil/single coil tones myself...I have a Schecter Reaper-6 atm and the pickups sound pretty average in humbucker mode, high enough output but just kinda muddy. But in split coil mode they sound great, really aggressive and tight sounding.
The Rob Scallon model here does sound pretty good for an 8 string pickup but the Ormsby is better, and so is the Schecter Tao 8 that Andrew has reviewed more recently. I believe the pickups in the Rob Scallon model aren't Schecter's own manufactured USA pickups but import models made by the overseas guitar manufacturer (usually South Korea for their higher end import models). Not that it definitely means the non-USA pickups won't be as good, just interesting to see how they go about doing custom pickups for signature models. Perhaps they are able to customise them more effectively for the USA pickups and have more ability to get every aspect perfect to the artist's desires.
Sounds Chuuuuunkeeeeeei. Great video dude.
Sound like Alas the lord is upon me of Behemoth
AYYY! My names at the end of your videos now :D
You write some of the heaviest shit known to man.
I'm ordering this motherstummer right now.
Nihilist is a ripper dude
The song ... oh my god ... superb
Yes.
that intro riff heavyheavy brotha 👌
Cool song!
Headstock is sick
That was a sick squeal!
How long did it take you to learn 8 strings? I'm keen to get one tho
Depending on your tuning its not much different, just takes a bit of getting used to your "b" string shift being in a different spot if ya get me, like its in the same place but it just gives the illusion that its not if that makes any sense.
You could of course tune that out but that makes some chord shapes quite difficult.
It only took me a few days to get used to it and now i cant go back, a 6 string just feels like a toy now.
That's a beautiful 8 string
Does Rob have two sig models now or is the Chapman done?
Hes not with chapman any more
what is the neutral fret on the legator guitars?
7th
Cool guitar, but I wish it was 28" on the low end.
I would buy it if the scale lengths were right.
27” is fine and has been the standard for 8 strings since like 2010.
@@BaenaCarcosa Nah, it's really not.
Thanks for the reply though.
27 is enough but 28 or 30 is preferred i agree. For most, 27 inch scale can go down to D with a .072 .074 or .080. Maybe .085 for D but 74 or 80 is enough.
You can get tunings like drop E to sound great on less than 27 inches if you really want to. It’s really not as important as you might think if you’re not too concerned about your tension having absolutely perfect balance
@@AaronMorgan666 bro on a 27 I was tuning a .090 at C#
What about the fact it doesnr have Evertune ?.🤔
Can’t wait for the day if/when evertune makes a multi scale bridge but I doubt that will ever happen haha
@@BaenaCarcosa Oh there is no mltiscale evertune ? I wasn't aware of that ! In the e'd, would you rather have multiscale or evertune ?
Great video but I can’t lie I hate the guitar lol
If I owned an 8 string, I'd be jamming the Doom OST all day ;-)
Sick demo bro! I've been hearing great things about Rob's signature guitars. They look and sound awesome!
For 1600$ bucks there are far better options out there. If schecter really wants to compete with other brands, throw in some pickups prople know or make the price point lower.
Really dislike the pickups and scale length on this. Quite disappointing imo
pink guitar strap
The mahogany strip down the front of the guitar is atrocious. Such a ugly brown and makes it look cheesy.
Inlays on the fret board are useless and looks wrong to only have it on half. I get it’s his sign but. No inlays and a solid cold too would have been so much more tasteful. The rest of the specs are great though!!
well the strip of wood is so that there is no bolted block on the back of the neck for ease of access to higher frets.