some of these deer look like what happens when a 6 year old cant remember the exact shape of a deer or elk antler, and just start drawing branches like crazy
Thanks for featuring my drawing of Megaceroides algericus! This was a well-researched video and I'm glad to see someone finally highlighting these often overlooked artiodactyls.
It was just beautiful. You have helped to bring this animal back to life and amaze people once more, after a couple of thousands of years since its extinction. Nice work!
The Evenk, an indigenous people of Siberia and Manchuria, have developed the largest breed of reindeer, the only ones large enough to be ridden. The Chinese refer to them as "deer riders". Most people with reindeer only use them to pull sleds.
I’d love a similar video on Solanaceae plants. Like how did this family become so diverse to include so many important plants like tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, petunias, and eggplants, but also the deadly nightshade?
When someone says "antlers with a width of 3,5 m" is the exact moment you can't resist looking into the room you're in and realize..." well this room is x,xm so that mf should be... good jezus that's from there to there"
@@HermeticJazzA meter is 1.094 yards. You can imagine them as basically the same and be pretty close. The actual difference is a little over 3.3 inches-one meter is 39.37 inches. An American football field is 100 yards or 91.44 meters. 3.5m antlers works out to them being about 3.8 yards.
It's so interesting to me that saber toothed attributes was a convergent evolutionary trait. I wouldn't have thought a deer would have grown saber toothed teeth lol
@S-T-E-V-E, actually, there is no such thing as a saber-toothed deer, also, there are no such things as either a "musk deer", a "water deer", or a "mouse deer", because they are not deer at all despite common english names, they are more correctly referred to as "kasturis", "yoyongs", and "chevrotains" respectively The only defining characteristic of deer is the possession of antlers, which is something kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains do not possess, hence the reason why deer belong to the Pecora infraorder whereas kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains do not Chevrotains constitute the family Tragulidae with over twelve extant species under four genera and two subfamilies, they are the only extant family of both the superfamily Traguloidea and the infraorder Tragulina, the two subfamilies of chevrotains are Tragulinae (Lesser Chevrotains) for the Kanchil Chevrotain (Muselaphus kanchil), the Silver-Backed Chevrotain (Muselaphus versicolor), the Thai Chevrotain (Muselaphus williamsoni), the Javan Chevrotain (Tragulus javanicus), the Napu Chevrotain (Tragulus napu), and the Philippine Chevrotain (Tragulus nigricans) and Hyemoschinae (Greater Chevrotains) for the Indian Spotted Chevrotain (Moschiola indica), the Sri Lanka Spotted Chevrotain (Moschiola meminna), the Yellow-Striped Chevrotain (Moschiola kathygre), the Congo Water Chevrotain (Hyemoschus aquaticus), the Bates's Water Chevrotain (Hyemoschus batesi), and the Ituri Water Chevrotain (Hyemoschus cottoni) Yoyongs constitute the genus Hydropotes and are the only extant genus of the family Hydropotidae with only two extant species: the Chinese Yoyong (Hydropotes inermis) and the Korean Yoyong (Hydropotes argyropus) and the kasturis constitute the genus Moschus and are the only extant genus of the family Moschidae with only eight extant species: the Siberian Kasturi (Moschus moschiferus), the Sakhalin Kasturi (Moschus sachalinensis), the Anhui Kasturi (Moschus anhuiensis), the Dwarf Kasturi (Moschus berezovskii), the Black Kasturi (Moschus fuscus), the Golden-Bellied Kasturi (Moschus chrysogaster), the White-Bellied Kasturi (Moschus leucogaster), and the Kashmir Kasturi (Moschus cupreus), both these two monotypic families constitute the superfamily Moschoidea, which is the only extant taxon of infraorder Vampyrodonta The true deer constitute the family Cervidae and are the only extant family of the superfamily Cervoidea with over seventy extant species under twenty genera and two subfamilies Because deer belong to the infraorder Pecora unlike kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains, true deer are more closely related to bovids, giraffes, okapis, and pronghorns than they are to kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains as well as bovids, deer, giraffes, okapis, and pronghorns all being more closely related to camels than they are to kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains, this is because pecorans share a more recent common ancestor with tylopods while the infraorders Tragulina and Vampyrodonta are both considered basal offshoots of the complex suborder Selenodontia
@@indyreno2933 very informative. Nice. I always had a suspicion that kancil could not be a type of rusa, it just was too strange to just be a miniature deer.
It is not. Her previous non 7DOS videos were: "Were These Neanderthals The First Fossil Hunters? - Uncovering Homotherium", and "When Humans Vanished From Britain for 15,000 Years"
Emilia has such a great speaking voice. She's clearly getting really used to being in front of a camera....I hope we see her presenting science docos on BBC one day! She has an absolutely beautiful smile and a super charming on screen presence. And yes, I would absolutely would sit through a 2hour video of Emilia reading a 1950s phone book. She can make anything sound interesting.
If you do an episode on deer evolution, be sure to spend some time discussing those antlers, how fast they grow, their mass, and that they are re-grown every year. It’s amazing how many people do not know the difference between antlers and horns!
@@indyreno2933common names vary in different countries, so you probably shouldn't go around attempting to correct people on an international platform. The word elk was originally used to describe the european elk. something you north Americans would probably call a moose, but the name elk was mistakenly applied to the species you talk about by European settlers. No shame though. This is why scientists don't use common names. its an easy error to make.
@@jredmane While I would assume that antler shedding is an ancestral trait, I wouldn't put it beyond the realm of possibility that it could have been lost in some of these species.
Deers: “Despite not being the first group of mammals most people think of when thinking of megafauna, many members of our family have become giants.” Camels: “We have way more in common than I thought.”
I'm so glad the Alaskan moose made the list. Its the largest land animal in the New World by height and second to only the bison by mass. Absolute units and living proof that NA megafauna is still out there.
@patreekotime4578, the Cervus genus now contains only six extant species: the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis), in fact, the latter five used to be conspecific with the former, but the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus) is now officially redefined to be native only to Europe, thus now treating the barbary deer, caspian deer, hangul, and elk/wapiti that live in Africa, Asia, and North America respectively as separate species, even the mediterranean deer that is now found only in the islands of Corsica and Sardinia is also now a separate species too Based on this, the Cervus genus is now restricted only to the red deer and extant species that used to be conspecific with it, much like how the Canis genus of dogs is now restricted only to the grey wolf and extant or recent species that used to be conspecific with it and how the Sus genus of pigs is now restricted only to the wild boar and extant species that used to be conspecific with it Hence the reason why the only eight extant dog species in the Canis genus are now the Grey Wolf (Canis lupus (cladistically including the Domestic Dog (Canis lupus familiaris))), the White Wolf (Canis albus), the Sea Wolf (Canis crassodon), the Eastern Wolf (Canis lycaon), the Red Wolf (Canis rufus), the Pale-Footed Wolf (Canis pallipes), the New Guinea Singing Dog (Canis hallstromi), and the Dingo (Canis dingo), the only extant deer species in the Cervus genus are now the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk or Wapiti (Cervus canadensis), and the only eight extant pig species in the Sus genus are now the Wild Boar (Sus scrofa (cladistically including the Domestic Pig (Sus scrofa domesticus))), the Mediterranean Hog (Sus meridionalis), the Barbary Pig (Sus algirus), the Black-Footed Hog (Sus nigripes), the Crested Hog (Sus cristatus), the Banded Pig (Sus vittatus), the Formosan Hog (Sus taivanus), and the Japanese Pig (Sus leucomystax)
@HuckleberryHim, even the thorold's deer and sika deer are both removed from the Cervus genus, with the former now being placed under the monotypic genus Przewalskium and the latter now constituting the genus Ocellelaphus as four separate species.
@@indyreno2933 I wonder if you are the same person who posts very long, unconventional taxonomies on Reddit? I am no position to deny or confirm your suggested taxonomy, but it is in pretty stark contrast with modern consensus.
` We have this happen quite often down here in south Alabama on our farm .My husband had a huge Whitetail buck nearly run him over about 3 AM one morning .It was drinking out of our stock tank .Naturally our guard dogs German Shepherds no less were just lying on the porch watching it totally entranced by it's beauty .My husband walked around the fence and the deer just looked at him for a bit before lowering that rack and charging his way .Luckily he got out of his way in time .The dogs finally managed to bark at least .Sadly they don't get as huge and impressive around here like they used to be in days past but still an amazing sight to witness .The buck still comes around every now and then but I see it more down in the woods .
Incredible that this video just so happens to coincide with the very recent "Shikanoko Nokonoko Koshitantan" trend, a meme from an anime that is yet to come out this July that's all about deer and shenanigans involving deer Or is it a coincidence?
This was really very interesting. I did not know that there were so many deer types. Before I forget...oh Emilia...you belong into the British monarchy.
We just need a full video of Emilia imitating a horse galloping along - instant gold!😉 But seriously please do a part 2 to this video- this is great👏👏👏
I consider myself to be an expert in deer and deer evolution, but even I learned a few things! Great video! One thing I do wanna note is it is believed that deer evolved fangs before antlers, as some species, such as the chinese water deer, never evolved antlers and just kept their fangs.
Very interesting! Yes - a video on horned creatures would be fun, there's some real oddities out there. How can such massive structures be supported by the skull and neck?
Great video as always. May I suggest doing a video on Arsinoitherium some time? They’re one of my favourite prehistoric mammals and there aren’t really many video essays on it.
Fun fact: the Alcelaphinae subfamily contains twelve extant species under five genera and three tribes The three tribes of the Alcelaphinae subfamily are Beatragini (Hirola and Fossil Relatives) with only a single extant species under a single genus: the Hirola (Beatragus hunteri), the damalisks (tribe Damaliscini) are constituted by six extant species under two genera: the Bontebok (Damaliscus pygargus), the Blesbok (Damaliscus phillipsi), the Tsessebe (Elaphops lunatus), the Topi (Elaphops topi), the Tiang (Elaphops tiang), and the Korrigum (Elaphops korrigum), and the Alcelaphini tribe contains a total of five extant species under two genera: the Northern Hartebeest (Alcelaphus buselaphus), the Southern Hartebeest (Alcelaphus caama), the White-Bearded Wildebeest (Connochaetes albojubatus), the Blue Wildebeest (Connochaetes taurinus), and the Black Wildebeest (Connochaetes gnou)
The expansion episode of this one would be about every time head horns/antlers/osteocones/domes/hardened head crests evolved. This would not only detail the evolution of the antler-bearing deer but also the horned relatives to deer in cervidae and bovidae, as well as the osteocone bearing giraffes and springhorns. In addition to those this episode would also include, rhinoceroses, cerotopsids, head-crested pterosaurs, pachy-cepholuses (?) and bill-crested toucans and so many other 'horned' animals all across the tree of life!
Funny - Just got home from a presentation I held about the extinct pleistocene animals from a place next to my hometown. Main topic - mostly giant deer species and extinct elephant species. And now you guys bring me this little pearl. What a crazy and funny coincidence?! Also big thanks for giving good old Alces latifrons a bit more promo. He is the biggest deer species after all but everyone only knows megaloceros.
@@indyreno2933 Well my friend this depends very well on the source you want to rely to: I wrote my master thesis about this deer so I know what you are proposing to but: The broad fronted moose (let's just call it with that name so we don't have to discuss about it) has very fragmented fossil remains and till today, shows only slight skeletal differences from the european Moose Alces alces. The differences are cut down to a little change in the contact of the nasal bone and a little difference in the phalnges. If you are the opinion of Breda and Marchetti - you can say it is strongly related with the scotti moose and the gallicus moose from france and they all togehther form the genus Cervalces and are distinct from the modern moose Alces alces. If you believe Pfeiffer and Kahlke you can say it is probably the ancestor of the modern moose and therefore in the same genus Alces because this skeletal features can also be adaptations from another lifestyle like the modern moose and do not have to be a evolutionary change. Because the differences in the skeleton are still very limited and fossils of this deerare also very fragmentary it is too early to give it a clear status. Also the antler is almost identical with the modern moose - only with longer beams, a more circular palmation than oval like in modern moose and a rotation of around 45°.This means that if you look him in the eyes from the front you could see its giant palmation from the antlers completely. Long story short: prehistoric moose are fascinating as hell and there is still enough to learn about them ;) I hope I could help you with that information
@marionschneider4555, not all deer in the subtribe Alceina are moose, Alces alces is the only true moose, "broad-fronted deer" is the correct name for Cervalces latifrons.
The eastern elk was a really cool species, it went extinct after settlers came to America. It was a close relative of the western elk you see all over in America, but it was larger than western elk species, and some of those western elk, specifically the Rocky Mountain elk, have been reintroduced, thought to be of the eastern elk lineage. It did have an impact though. Michigan's flag has an elk and a moose, despite elk not being native to Michigan for about 100 plus years. I would love to see it get mentioned more often, seeing it's history in America.
Yes, North American megafauna was decimated not just by total extinctions, but also by massive extirpation and range reduction of still-living species. Lots of other cool animals also lived in most of the eastern US, from wolves to cougars to bison to brown bears, which are now gone, rare, or found only in remote places.
Great video, one omission I would have loved to have seen is Rusa Unicolor, the Sambar Deer. I came across one drinking ice out of a drinks cooler, behind a small building in a national park in Thailand and was shocked at how big it was and got out of there quick The fact that Moose are even bigger genuinely terrifies me
How is antler evolution like a game of chess? Which move to make next depends on your opponent's last and next, tending toward greater and greater complexity.
This was my first time, seeing one of your videos. I really appreciate the way you were comparing past to present animals. It helps people to realize that there are more than just your local deer. In my case, the Southern whitetail deer is the only species in my area, which is about fifty miles west of Atlanta, GA. USA. Keep up the good work.
some of these deer look like what happens when a 6 year old cant remember the exact shape of a deer or elk antler, and just start drawing branches like crazy
Their is a lot of extinct animals. that kind looks like a 6 year old. remember the basic structure and draws a extreame version of it.
An elk is a deer.
evolution be like:
Sexual selection in action 🤭
:face-blue-smiling: goofy ahh
Thanks for featuring my drawing of Megaceroides algericus! This was a well-researched video and I'm glad to see someone finally highlighting these often overlooked artiodactyls.
It was just beautiful. You have helped to bring this animal back to life and amaze people once more, after a couple of thousands of years since its extinction. Nice work!
@@ukaszzawadka2678 Thank you!
The Evenk, an indigenous people of Siberia and Manchuria, have developed the largest breed of reindeer, the only ones large enough to be ridden. The Chinese refer to them as "deer riders". Most people with reindeer only use them to pull sleds.
That's badass
A pleasure to be here with you brilliant mammals
Same here 😊
NERD!!!
Likewise.
Ha, joke's on you. I'm a reptilian galactic overlord
@@Victor.-.E
Should totally do an "Every Time Bipedalism has Evolved" video
That would be a long one.
It started with cabarzia and eudibamus in the early permian but they're only occasionally bipedal
Is the Mexican Mole Lizard bipedal? 🤔
@@mhdfrb9971 yes and they were dino-bird precursors not mammals where bipedalism came fewer and farther between.
“Hmm, that’s very interesting. I’ll keep this information in mind if I ever need a new, stronger crew for busy nights.”
-Santa Claus
l love satna clas
😊
Santa stopped using reindeer decades ago when molecular transposition works so much faster.
When Santa has to deliver in Chicago
Too late, Santa. Too late.
The asked-for giant deer episode! Huzzah!
I'd like a Part 2, please!
Gianter deer?
id also like a part two
Smallest deers ever?
@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x dik-dik
Wacky antlered friends of assorted sizes?
I would 100% sit through a multi-hour video on deer
I would absolutely sit through an hour and a half long video about cool deer
I’d love a similar video on Solanaceae plants. Like how did this family become so diverse to include so many important plants like tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, petunias, and eggplants, but also the deadly nightshade?
Good one 👍
❤
And tobacco - deadlier than nightshade!
@@b.a.erlebacher1139 I can’t believe I forgot tobacco!
Lol uuhhhh if they don't do it...i was planning to 😅😅
@@SolanaceaeCircaeaBioEvolve instant subscription. Let me know when it’s out!
When someone says "antlers with a width of 3,5 m" is the exact moment you can't resist looking into the room you're in and realize..." well this room is x,xm so that mf should be... good jezus that's from there to there"
Can you translate m into feet, yards, or animals please? I dont understand meter
Haha! True and guilty!
@@HermeticJazzA meter is 1.094 yards. You can imagine them as basically the same and be pretty close.
The actual difference is a little over 3.3 inches-one meter is 39.37 inches.
An American football field is 100 yards or 91.44 meters.
3.5m antlers works out to them being about 3.8 yards.
3:35 I wonder if the Musk Deer had only been found in the Fossil Record it would have been called the Sabre Toothed Deer? 😂
I'm shocked the musk deer isn't ALREADY called "the sabertooth deer"
It's so interesting to me that saber toothed attributes was a convergent evolutionary trait. I wouldn't have thought a deer would have grown saber toothed teeth lol
@@benmcreynolds8581 Yep it seems to have been the fashion in the Pleistocene! 😂
@S-T-E-V-E, actually, there is no such thing as a saber-toothed deer, also, there are no such things as either a "musk deer", a "water deer", or a "mouse deer", because they are not deer at all despite common english names, they are more correctly referred to as "kasturis", "yoyongs", and "chevrotains" respectively
The only defining characteristic of deer is the possession of antlers, which is something kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains do not possess, hence the reason why deer belong to the Pecora infraorder whereas kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains do not
Chevrotains constitute the family Tragulidae with over twelve extant species under four genera and two subfamilies, they are the only extant family of both the superfamily Traguloidea and the infraorder Tragulina, the two subfamilies of chevrotains are Tragulinae (Lesser Chevrotains) for the Kanchil Chevrotain (Muselaphus kanchil), the Silver-Backed Chevrotain (Muselaphus versicolor), the Thai Chevrotain (Muselaphus williamsoni), the Javan Chevrotain (Tragulus javanicus), the Napu Chevrotain (Tragulus napu), and the Philippine Chevrotain (Tragulus nigricans) and Hyemoschinae (Greater Chevrotains) for the Indian Spotted Chevrotain (Moschiola indica), the Sri Lanka Spotted Chevrotain (Moschiola meminna), the Yellow-Striped Chevrotain (Moschiola kathygre), the Congo Water Chevrotain (Hyemoschus aquaticus), the Bates's Water Chevrotain (Hyemoschus batesi), and the Ituri Water Chevrotain (Hyemoschus cottoni)
Yoyongs constitute the genus Hydropotes and are the only extant genus of the family Hydropotidae with only two extant species: the Chinese Yoyong (Hydropotes inermis) and the Korean Yoyong (Hydropotes argyropus) and the kasturis constitute the genus Moschus and are the only extant genus of the family Moschidae with only eight extant species: the Siberian Kasturi (Moschus moschiferus), the Sakhalin Kasturi (Moschus sachalinensis), the Anhui Kasturi (Moschus anhuiensis), the Dwarf Kasturi (Moschus berezovskii), the Black Kasturi (Moschus fuscus), the Golden-Bellied Kasturi (Moschus chrysogaster), the White-Bellied Kasturi (Moschus leucogaster), and the Kashmir Kasturi (Moschus cupreus), both these two monotypic families constitute the superfamily Moschoidea, which is the only extant taxon of infraorder Vampyrodonta
The true deer constitute the family Cervidae and are the only extant family of the superfamily Cervoidea with over seventy extant species under twenty genera and two subfamilies
Because deer belong to the infraorder Pecora unlike kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains, true deer are more closely related to bovids, giraffes, okapis, and pronghorns than they are to kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains as well as bovids, deer, giraffes, okapis, and pronghorns all being more closely related to camels than they are to kasturis, yoyongs, and chevrotains, this is because pecorans share a more recent common ancestor with tylopods while the infraorders Tragulina and Vampyrodonta are both considered basal offshoots of the complex suborder Selenodontia
@@indyreno2933 very informative. Nice. I always had a suspicion that kancil could not be a type of rusa, it just was too strange to just be a miniature deer.
Is this Emilia's first feature episode? Fantastic job, cant wait for more!
It is not. Her previous non 7DOS videos were: "Were These Neanderthals The First Fossil Hunters? - Uncovering Homotherium", and "When Humans Vanished From Britain for 15,000 Years"
Uh huh.
I have deer-ly wished for this.
😂
Grooooaaaan 😂
Booh
I do not like you. That is all…
@@Freddercheese no worries, love x
Emilia has such a great speaking voice. She's clearly getting really used to being in front of a camera....I hope we see her presenting science docos on BBC one day! She has an absolutely beautiful smile and a super charming on screen presence.
And yes, I would absolutely would sit through a 2hour video of Emilia reading a 1950s phone book. She can make anything sound interesting.
ben looks different today
It's the lighting, I think
Mhh It's emilia actually🤓
(Just jokin)
the "ben looks different today" joke gets funnier and funnier every time it's posted!
i like this version more Dx its so much more soothing when i put this on to sleep
sounds different too
it's such a bummer i will never get to feed any of these a little treat :/
😢
...weird take...
Lol thanks for the good laugh
It's such a bummer I will never get to EAT any of these as a little treat ;-)
If you do an episode on deer evolution, be sure to spend some time discussing those antlers, how fast they grow, their mass, and that they are re-grown every year. It’s amazing how many people do not know the difference between antlers and horns!
Emilia absolutely slayed this. Keep it up queen
Yes and we want the hour and a half video! 19:30
more about deers please
Agreed
MG was called the Irish Elk because it was known to never turn down a Guinness.
Cervus canadensis is the only true elk, "irish deer" is the correct name for Megaloceros giganteus.
@@indyreno2933common names vary in different countries, so you probably shouldn't go around attempting to correct people on an international platform.
The word elk was originally used to describe the european elk. something you north Americans would probably call a moose, but the name elk was mistakenly applied to the species you talk about by European settlers.
No shame though. This is why scientists don't use common names. its an easy error to make.
@@indyreno2933 Fine. But my Guinness remark stands. ✅😂
@@indyreno2933 Technically it's sparkling deer, the only real elk comes from the elk region of France
Also moose are also called elk in Europe
Do all members of this group have deciduous antlers? Do or did they regrow them every year!? If so that is absolutely mind boggling.
This is actually a very good question!
Yes definitely
All members of this family shed and regrow antlers every year. So yes, a mind-bogglong metabolic feat
@@jredmane While I would assume that antler shedding is an ancestral trait, I wouldn't put it beyond the realm of possibility that it could have been lost in some of these species.
Does the definition of deciduous apply to antlers or just leaves? This isn’t a troll, I honestly don’t know, that’s why I’m asking 😅
the antlers are insane, it makes me wonder just how strong their neck muscles must be. 🤯
Deers: “Despite not being the first group of mammals most people think of when thinking of megafauna, many members of our family have become giants.”
Camels: “We have way more in common than I thought.”
There were also large-sized bovids too.
This is however old news for Canadians and Americans who live near its borders.
Cetacea: "Same"
*The Syrian Camel has Entered the Chat*
@cyrillianchaoid, what about the Knobloch's Camel (Oreocamelus knoblochi)?
Yes to the in-depth deer video!
The antlers on some of thes guys ate crazy
I'm so glad the Alaskan moose made the list. Its the largest land animal in the New World by height and second to only the bison by mass. Absolute units and living proof that NA megafauna is still out there.
Let's hear more about deer!!!!!
Emilia: Do you want me to do a video on...
Me: YES!
No honorary mention for the wapiti? Now that's a massive modern deer.
I *think* she is including it under the "red deer" moniker as it mistakenly used to be considered a sister species.
@patreekotime4578, the Cervus genus now contains only six extant species: the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk/Wapiti (Cervus canadensis), in fact, the latter five used to be conspecific with the former, but the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus) is now officially redefined to be native only to Europe, thus now treating the barbary deer, caspian deer, hangul, and elk/wapiti that live in Africa, Asia, and North America respectively as separate species, even the mediterranean deer that is now found only in the islands of Corsica and Sardinia is also now a separate species too
Based on this, the Cervus genus is now restricted only to the red deer and extant species that used to be conspecific with it, much like how the Canis genus of dogs is now restricted only to the grey wolf and extant or recent species that used to be conspecific with it and how the Sus genus of pigs is now restricted only to the wild boar and extant species that used to be conspecific with it
Hence the reason why the only eight extant dog species in the Canis genus are now the Grey Wolf (Canis lupus (cladistically including the Domestic Dog (Canis lupus familiaris))), the White Wolf (Canis albus), the Sea Wolf (Canis crassodon), the Eastern Wolf (Canis lycaon), the Red Wolf (Canis rufus), the Pale-Footed Wolf (Canis pallipes), the New Guinea Singing Dog (Canis hallstromi), and the Dingo (Canis dingo), the only extant deer species in the Cervus genus are now the Red Deer (Cervus elaphus), the Mediterranean Deer (Cervus corsicanus), the Barbary Deer (Cervus barbarus), the Caspian Deer (Cervus maral), the Hangul (Cervus hanglu), and the Elk or Wapiti (Cervus canadensis), and the only eight extant pig species in the Sus genus are now the Wild Boar (Sus scrofa (cladistically including the Domestic Pig (Sus scrofa domesticus))), the Mediterranean Hog (Sus meridionalis), the Barbary Pig (Sus algirus), the Black-Footed Hog (Sus nigripes), the Crested Hog (Sus cristatus), the Banded Pig (Sus vittatus), the Formosan Hog (Sus taivanus), and the Japanese Pig (Sus leucomystax)
Lots of other big deer are excluded, sambar, Javan rusa, marsh deer, Pere David's deer, etc
@HuckleberryHim, even the thorold's deer and sika deer are both removed from the Cervus genus, with the former now being placed under the monotypic genus Przewalskium and the latter now constituting the genus Ocellelaphus as four separate species.
@@indyreno2933 I wonder if you are the same person who posts very long, unconventional taxonomies on Reddit? I am no position to deny or confirm your suggested taxonomy, but it is in pretty stark contrast with modern consensus.
Yes-- would love one about the evolution of deer 😊
Emilia is an amazing addition. I love the direction this channel has been going lately. Keep up the good work.
imagine having to lift these antlers
0:34 The stalker behind the wooden fence is back 0_0
That's just Tim's neighbor Wilson
@@aceundead4750 I still think it's Cardboard Doug, he's the only one slim enough to fit there.
The Irish elk has to be the number one coolest gear that ever did live
Cervus canadensis is the only true elk, "irish deer" is the correct name for Megaloceros giganteus.
@@indyreno2933 _Alces alces_ is also referred to as elk in Europe. There is no such thing as the "one true elk". That's why we have scientific names.
PART TWO, PLEASE! That's my vote. Great work, as always. Cheers!
Watching Emilia discuss antlers is my fathers day present.
Woke up early the other day to find a couple of deer grazing near my front door 🦌🦌
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We have this happen quite often down here in south Alabama on our farm .My husband had a huge Whitetail buck nearly run him over about 3 AM one morning .It was drinking out of our stock tank .Naturally our guard dogs German Shepherds no less were just lying on the porch watching it totally entranced by it's beauty .My husband walked around the fence and the deer just looked at him for a bit before lowering that rack and charging his way .Luckily he got out of his way in time .The dogs finally managed to bark at least .Sadly they don't get as huge and impressive around here like they used to be in days past but still an amazing sight to witness .The buck still comes around every now and then but I see it more down in the woods .
Sinomegaceros looks like it's trying to do the YMCA with its antlers. What an odd-looking animal.
Part 2 please, and i'd love to see those deer woth nose horns
Deer have antlers not horns, also, the extinct grazers with horns on noses are not deer.
I will be looking forward to a part 2! This was an excellent video!
Absolutely loved the video, could definitely sit and watch for an hour . Doing great with this channel ♡
This was wonderful, I would certainly enjoy a part 2 if you make one!
2:10 "It's me PEKORA!". When I heard Pecora that's what I tought. Still Great Job on The Video! :)
Incredible that this video just so happens to coincide with the very recent "Shikanoko Nokonoko Koshitantan" trend, a meme from an anime that is yet to come out this July that's all about deer and shenanigans involving deer
Or is it a coincidence?
I would gladly see a video on deer evolution.
Part 2 also would be nice.
What do you call a deer with no eyes?
No eye-deer.
What do you call a deer with no eyes and no legs?
Still-no-eye-deer.
I Think deer were covered enough but antelope would make a interesting part two! 🎉🦌
This was really very interesting. I did not know that there were so many deer types. Before I forget...oh Emilia...you belong into the British monarchy.
"Well, the only word for it is big" bro has a windshield on his head😭
We just need a full video of Emilia imitating a horse galloping along - instant gold!😉 But seriously please do a part 2 to this video- this is great👏👏👏
Part 2 would be amazing well done
These antlers got a lot weirder than I thought they would.
Deer have antlers not horns.
We asked for a deer video, and sure enough, you guys delivered! Thanks so much! Y'all are just the best.
Yes, please make a whole video on deer evolution, I need more deer content and it sometimes feel like it isn't talked about often 🙏
I consider myself to be an expert in deer and deer evolution, but even I learned a few things! Great video!
One thing I do wanna note is it is believed that deer evolved fangs before antlers, as some species, such as the chinese water deer, never evolved antlers and just kept their fangs.
loved this! please more deer & mammals
100% need a part two
Very interesting! Yes - a video on horned creatures would be fun, there's some real oddities out there. How can such massive structures be supported by the skull and neck?
I love your presentation. Good Latin pronunciations, good science and a little light humour. PLEASE keep it up!
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Ms. Emilia's accent is immaculate as well
Saw one in a small museum in Munich. I didn't know they grow that big.
Thank you to your team for including some funny moments. Just adds to the great content and gives me a good laugh.
Great video as always.
May I suggest doing a video on Arsinoitherium some time? They’re one of my favourite prehistoric mammals and there aren’t really many video essays on it.
Look hear, you guys are great! I find new ways to back up my theories through your discoveries. Keep up the good work!
Do an evolution on Wildebeest
Hildebeest clintonia
Fun fact: the Alcelaphinae subfamily contains twelve extant species under five genera and three tribes
The three tribes of the Alcelaphinae subfamily are Beatragini (Hirola and Fossil Relatives) with only a single extant species under a single genus: the Hirola (Beatragus hunteri), the damalisks (tribe Damaliscini) are constituted by six extant species under two genera: the Bontebok (Damaliscus pygargus), the Blesbok (Damaliscus phillipsi), the Tsessebe (Elaphops lunatus), the Topi (Elaphops topi), the Tiang (Elaphops tiang), and the Korrigum (Elaphops korrigum), and the Alcelaphini tribe contains a total of five extant species under two genera: the Northern Hartebeest (Alcelaphus buselaphus), the Southern Hartebeest (Alcelaphus caama), the White-Bearded Wildebeest (Connochaetes albojubatus), the Blue Wildebeest (Connochaetes taurinus), and the Black Wildebeest (Connochaetes gnou)
@@indyreno2933 I will win a bar bet on this.
Cool deer part two, please!
The expansion episode of this one would be about every time head horns/antlers/osteocones/domes/hardened head crests evolved. This would not only detail the evolution of the antler-bearing deer but also the horned relatives to deer in cervidae and bovidae, as well as the osteocone bearing giraffes and springhorns. In addition to those this episode would also include, rhinoceroses, cerotopsids, head-crested pterosaurs, pachy-cepholuses (?) and bill-crested toucans and so many other 'horned' animals all across the tree of life!
More Emilia please ! !
Love her accent and beauty.
Haven’t learned of so many new genera from a single video in a really long time.
Amazing work ❤
Please, please, please do a Part 2! This was great.
Would love a part 2!
I wouldn't have complained about an hour and a half video on extinct deer, and I won't complain about a part two.
Evolution run wild if I've ever seen it.
Can't wait for the part 2 :)
Funny - Just got home from a presentation I held about the extinct pleistocene animals from a place next to my hometown. Main topic - mostly giant deer species and extinct elephant species. And now you guys bring me this little pearl. What a crazy and funny coincidence?! Also big thanks for giving good old Alces latifrons a bit more promo. He is the biggest deer species after all but everyone only knows megaloceros.
The scientific name of the broad-fronted deer is Cervalces latifrons.
@@indyreno2933 Well my friend this depends very well on the source you want to rely to: I wrote my master thesis about this deer so I know what you are proposing to but:
The broad fronted moose (let's just call it with that name so we don't have to discuss about it) has very fragmented fossil remains and till today, shows only slight skeletal differences from the european Moose Alces alces. The differences are cut down to a little change in the contact of the nasal bone and a little difference in the phalnges. If you are the opinion of Breda and Marchetti - you can say it is strongly related with the scotti moose and the gallicus moose from france and they all togehther form the genus Cervalces and are distinct from the modern moose Alces alces. If you believe Pfeiffer and Kahlke you can say it is probably the ancestor of the modern moose and therefore in the same genus Alces because this skeletal features can also be adaptations from another lifestyle like the modern moose and do not have to be a evolutionary change. Because the differences in the skeleton are still very limited and fossils of this deerare also very fragmentary it is too early to give it a clear status. Also the antler is almost identical with the modern moose - only with longer beams, a more circular palmation than oval like in modern moose and a rotation of around 45°.This means that if you look him in the eyes from the front you could see its giant palmation from the antlers completely. Long story short: prehistoric moose are fascinating as hell and there is still enough to learn about them ;)
I hope I could help you with that information
@marionschneider4555, not all deer in the subtribe Alceina are moose, Alces alces is the only true moose, "broad-fronted deer" is the correct name for Cervalces latifrons.
While Reindeer and Caribou are the same species, I can't help but feel the caribou were snubbed somehow.
In fact, the caribou or reindeer is the only extant species of both the genus Rangifer and the tribe Rangiferini.
The eastern elk was a really cool species, it went extinct after settlers came to America. It was a close relative of the western elk you see all over in America, but it was larger than western elk species, and some of those western elk, specifically the Rocky Mountain elk, have been reintroduced, thought to be of the eastern elk lineage. It did have an impact though. Michigan's flag has an elk and a moose, despite elk not being native to Michigan for about 100 plus years. I would love to see it get mentioned more often, seeing it's history in America.
Yes, North American megafauna was decimated not just by total extinctions, but also by massive extirpation and range reduction of still-living species. Lots of other cool animals also lived in most of the eastern US, from wolves to cougars to bison to brown bears, which are now gone, rare, or found only in remote places.
Shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan!
Shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan!
Shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan!
Shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan!
The moral of the story is:
Eat a calcium rich diet to grow your antlers big.
Size matters!
I would love an in depth deer video
Great video, one omission I would have loved to have seen is Rusa Unicolor, the Sambar Deer. I came across one drinking ice out of a drinks cooler, behind a small building in a national park in Thailand and was shocked at how big it was and got out of there quick
The fact that Moose are even bigger genuinely terrifies me
YES a full-length deer video!
How is antler evolution like a game of chess? Which move to make next depends on your opponent's last and next, tending toward greater and greater complexity.
Very well presented!
You're channel is so great, I cant wait to see more videos like these
Plz keep up the good work ❤
You should do a biggest of every group of mammals.
Fantastic show. Fantastic channel. Thank you.❤❤❤❤
I would love to see a part 2
That's quite amazing. It really goes to show how much more "streamlined" our contemporary species are compared to these huge elaborate creatures.
This was my first time, seeing one of your videos. I really appreciate the way you were comparing past to present animals. It helps people to realize that there are more than just your local deer. In my case, the Southern whitetail deer is the only species in my area, which is about fifty miles west of Atlanta, GA. USA. Keep up the good work.
Awesome video, thanks!!
More deer please
These videos are so cool, who doesn’t like learning??
Some of these deer are like 'how big do you want your antlers'? The answer being a resounding 'yes'
Yes please make a part 2!!!
Maybe a video like this on the strangest kangaroos?
Omg yes! Deer evolution video sounds awesome!
Science and technology are amazing. Thank you for this video.
I always appreciated Steppe Reindeer.
Never knew my real Reindeer.