I was a little rough on Shogun before I watched it, but Hiroyuki Sanada's insistence on authenticity has really made the difference. Now I can't wait to watch Tokyo Vice and Pachinko
:) Thank you for shouting out or even displaying so many iconic Japanese productions in my opinion like Tokyo Vice; Shogun; Boy and the heron; Our little sister; Memoirs of a geisha... But it's okay that you didn't mention everything like Bullet train; the new John wick; the new Netflix One piece; Perfect days... We could just talk about Japanese interest and content for eternity! Nevertheless I have so much more to watch now :)
The nice thing with the live action one piece is that, unlike other adaptations made by westerners, those in charge of OP understand and appreciate the work, they know it and you can see thar, they also consulted the author and DID pay attention to his indications
Evaluation of Tokyo Vice author by the world's best Yakuza expert "Not only do they misrepresent the yakuza, they make themselves into the heroes of crime novels and start telling the world that they are yakuza experts. It is tedious, time-consuming, and frequently causes trouble. I have learned the hard way that my name and work are often used to enhance the credibility of this work."
@@konichivalue check it out man, it’s on UA-cam. Toshiro Mifune is AMAZING in it. I think it will change your mind about western understanding of Japan in the 80s. Also check out Mr. Baseball.
@@gcanaday1 I've checked a couple of UA-cam videos on the OG series and it looks so cheap compared the the new show, but the dialogue on many scenes are spot on
Seeing the heights Kimetsu and One Piece are reaching just lead us back to the impact of Dragon Ball. Let's face it, Toriyama was a catalyst for the global rise of shonen manga. Sure we have Fujiko Fujio, Yudetamago, and Rumiko Takahashi. But Toriyama, as Ralph Macchio puts it, the roots are strong so the tree will survive. By the way, what did Nitere do to perform well? Was this Ghibli movie helped alone or something more has happened under Yomiuri's leadership?
Haha, Dragon Ball was both the redeemer and destructor of Shonen Jump. It put them on the map, but now every popular manga slowly morphs into a 500 arc slugfest with fillers...
@@misosoppa3279 Frankly, keep in mind that Toriyama partly owed his whole career to Yoshimasa Ikeda! He was the translator who made Maurice LeBlanc’s Arsene Lupin accessible to Japan and much of the rest of Asia.
In those movies there is always a white guy going to Japan and having a love story with a japanese woman, while often japanese men were not shown as love object. Often they are babaric, or in other way a negative stereotype. I would not watch Shogun or any other of them. Seems like still japanese women get sexualized, fetishized. I would definitley watch, if a white woman would go to Japan and gets married to a japanese man ❤❤❤ I am german and my husband is japanese. We have a baby daughter. I hope when she is older, the movies are better and she can see there a couple like her own family. Many married couples and familys like us exists. Its increasing constantly
Thank you. This video lets the movie off too easily regarding stereotypes. My own vote for the transitional movie came out a few years later. Of course, few of Babel's scenes took place in Japan, but it is portrayed just as ordinary as California, Mexico and Morocco. Unsurprisingly, the director is Mexican - not American.
To play devil's advocate a bit, the Japanese seem perfectly willing to "fetishize" their own culture inwardly to themselves as well, so this isn't just a western thing. And corollary to that, Americans have held aloft and overly idealized our cultural origins as well. This is a form of mythologizing, and while it doesn't make good history, it is a useful and (dare I say) even a positive way of forming cultural bonds as generations come and go.
You hit the nail on the head! There are tons of amazing pieces of media that fetishize Japanese culture a lot, but it comes from a place of love. Heck, I think that's why the last samurai is still so good! The problem is when you dumb down movies to adhere to an audience, because "how could they possibly understand something that's not in their culture"... As a good example, to create a good Dragon Ball movie, one has to to fully fetishize Japanese culture, go deep and dirty into Japan's obsession with hentai themes, focus on the term "ganbaru" in the sense that nothing can be made good without incredibly hard work. If Hollywood took its learnings from The Karate Kid, the live action One Piece and even some parts from Bullet Train, I think they could make the best Dragon Ball movie ever made!
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I was a little rough on Shogun before I watched it, but Hiroyuki Sanada's insistence on authenticity has really made the difference. Now I can't wait to watch Tokyo Vice and Pachinko
Maybe this was a gained experience since Logan and 47 Ronin.
Totally agree! First episode was a bit cringy, but then it took off like a speeding bullet and now Tuesdays are the highlight of my week!
:) Thank you for shouting out or even displaying so many iconic Japanese productions in my opinion like Tokyo Vice; Shogun; Boy and the heron; Our little sister; Memoirs of a geisha... But it's okay that you didn't mention everything like Bullet train; the new John wick; the new Netflix One piece; Perfect days... We could just talk about Japanese interest and content for eternity! Nevertheless I have so much more to watch now :)
The nice thing with the live action one piece is that, unlike other adaptations made by westerners, those in charge of OP understand and appreciate the work, they know it and you can see thar, they also consulted the author and DID pay attention to his indications
Evaluation of Tokyo Vice author by the world's best Yakuza expert
"Not only do they misrepresent the yakuza, they make themselves into the heroes of crime novels and start telling the world that they are yakuza experts. It is tedious, time-consuming, and frequently causes trouble. I have learned the hard way that my name and work are often used to enhance the credibility of this work."
Still a very entertaining show!
I love that you threw _Carmen Comes Home_ in there. Not enough people have seen Kinoshita pictures in my opinion.
Were you able to watch the original Shogun mini-series from the 80s?
No, how is it compared to the new one?
@@konichivalue check it out man, it’s on UA-cam. Toshiro Mifune is AMAZING in it. I think it will change your mind about western understanding of Japan in the 80s. Also check out Mr. Baseball.
Not as pretty. Nor as authentic, but it followed the book fairly well.
@@gcanaday1 I've checked a couple of UA-cam videos on the OG series and it looks so cheap compared the the new show, but the dialogue on many scenes are spot on
@@konichivalue Clavell did his homework! After I saw the show on a rerun in maybe 1995, I read the book.
Seeing the heights Kimetsu and One Piece are reaching just lead us back to the impact of Dragon Ball. Let's face it, Toriyama was a catalyst for the global rise of shonen manga. Sure we have Fujiko Fujio, Yudetamago, and Rumiko Takahashi. But Toriyama, as Ralph Macchio puts it, the roots are strong so the tree will survive.
By the way, what did Nitere do to perform well? Was this Ghibli movie helped alone or something more has happened under Yomiuri's leadership?
Haha, Dragon Ball was both the redeemer and destructor of Shonen Jump. It put them on the map, but now every popular manga slowly morphs into a 500 arc slugfest with fillers...
@@misosoppa3279Well said. Good thing you mentioned the "fillers". 70% filler packed Naruto says it all.
@@misosoppa3279 Frankly, keep in mind that Toriyama partly owed his whole career to Yoshimasa Ikeda! He was the translator who made Maurice LeBlanc’s Arsene Lupin accessible to Japan and much of the rest of Asia.
In those movies there is always a white guy going to Japan and having a love story with a japanese woman, while often japanese men were not shown as love object. Often they are babaric, or in other way a negative stereotype. I would not watch Shogun or any other of them. Seems like still japanese women get sexualized, fetishized.
I would definitley watch, if a white woman would go to Japan and gets married to a japanese man ❤❤❤
I am german and my husband is japanese. We have a baby daughter. I hope when she is older, the movies are better and she can see there a couple like her own family. Many married couples and familys like us exists. Its increasing constantly
Check out Perfect Days. You'll love it.
Thanks for the tip! I will!
I think Lost in Translation was too fetishized for western audiences, but am really looking forward to watch Shogun!
And don't forget to watch Tokyo Vice! Final episode airs tonight on MAX
Thank you. This video lets the movie off too easily regarding stereotypes. My own vote for the transitional movie came out a few years later.
Of course, few of Babel's scenes took place in Japan, but it is portrayed just as ordinary as California, Mexico and Morocco.
Unsurprisingly, the director is Mexican - not American.
To play devil's advocate a bit, the Japanese seem perfectly willing to "fetishize" their own culture inwardly to themselves as well, so this isn't just a western thing. And corollary to that, Americans have held aloft and overly idealized our cultural origins as well. This is a form of mythologizing, and while it doesn't make good history, it is a useful and (dare I say) even a positive way of forming cultural bonds as generations come and go.
You hit the nail on the head! There are tons of amazing pieces of media that fetishize Japanese culture a lot, but it comes from a place of love. Heck, I think that's why the last samurai is still so good! The problem is when you dumb down movies to adhere to an audience, because "how could they possibly understand something that's not in their culture"... As a good example, to create a good Dragon Ball movie, one has to to fully fetishize Japanese culture, go deep and dirty into Japan's obsession with hentai themes, focus on the term "ganbaru" in the sense that nothing can be made good without incredibly hard work. If Hollywood took its learnings from The Karate Kid, the live action One Piece and even some parts from Bullet Train, I think they could make the best Dragon Ball movie ever made!
@@konichivalue Watch real Japanese movies not Hollywood movies.
Authentic?? Where’s the the diversity? The blacks, the trans, the people that weren’t even in Japan during this era????
Lol :p
Haha
My brother in 天皇陛下 , you didn't even mention One Piece Live Action... Why 😢
I actually did include One Piece in a previous cut of this video, which you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/95K5_a0AFsI/v-deo.html