Alright, I've heard the news: according to other sources, the Xperience sauce barely scores over 60,000 Scovilles according to lab tests. Not sure what's up with that. My bottle was definitely hotter than the sauce I made from Reapers and ghost peppers, which I assume is hotter than at least 500,000 SHU...maybe they got a bad batch of sauce?? I really don't know. Maybe my peppers were weak! It does kind of check out though: if the sauce really was over 2,000,000 Scoville, I should've gotten way more capsaicin out...like up to FORTY TIMES MORE! Several GRAMS. Regardless, I'm glad to have extracted at least some of Ed Currie's precious capsaicin! He can keep Pepper X out of reach for now, but at least I've got something that's hotter!
Yeah you know this is turning out to be pretty weird because I have had this sauce and it is definitely over a million scovilles. Either he did get a bad batch. Or there is something else in pepper x that is burning us. Or Johnny is being untruthful about something which I doubt. This will be interesting to see play out.
The other interesting thing is a sauce that in theory should be 2 million SHU isn’t as hot as a bite of a red habanero? That is also interesting just from LabCoatz reaction.
Somebody should have all kinds of sauces tested for their SHU. There are many sauces claiming they are the hottest while not even coming close to the heat level of a single super hot pepper.
Johnny scoville wouldn't lie about it. I got a bottle sent to Scotland and it was never 1 million let alone 2. I have hotter British sauce in the cupboard. It's a big of a scam if you ask me.
You might be surprised to hear this but that exact same Pepper X sauce was just tested and came back at 61,019 SHU. I'm not a chemist but I grow superhot peppers and there are some things that just don't add up about Pepper X and that sauce in particular. If you want a truly world class superhot pepper get a Chocolate Primotalii.
Guinness records is a sham and has been for a while now. You pay them $50,000 and they come out with their little plaque and give you a record. As soon as I saw they were involved I assumed it was bs.
I was about to say something similar. I got the Xperience sauce I think just under a month after it came out and tried it for the first time on camera, and I knew something wasn't adding up because a spoonful of it wasn't any more spicier to me then a bottle of store-bought habanero sauces and I even called it out on video that I wouldn't be surprised if it was no more than 100K shu, and sure enough after getting lab tested recently it was barely over 60k so the claim on the label that the sauce contained 91% of a pepper that is supposed to be almost 2.7 million Shu average was complete BS. I feel really bad that this guy went through all of this trouble to make extract from a sauce that doesn't even average as high as a Thai pepper, in fact barely more than a cayenne pepper.
Likely one pepper was tested for the record and not all of them are that hot. If you grow hot peppers, you already know that they are not all equal, even from the same plant.
This is a very similar process to what we currently use to extract morphine/ codeine/ thebaine and oripavin from poppy straw. (especially the chromatography) Ive worked 15 years at a factory that can produce 1/3 of he worlds opioids. This video explained more then almost all of the training at the average factory workers revived. the exception was the labs and R&D staff. Well done.
When I was a kid in the late 60's, my Navy Dad claimed a friend of his won a bet (aboard their ship) by drinking a whole bottle of Tabasco Sauce. The Hot Sauce industry has now advanced beyond my wildest dreams. ❤
I drank a bottle of Tabasco on a bet in the mid 90s, it really wasn’t bad. Just a regular sized bottle though, you could do physical damage to yourself with a larger one, like how people have died drinking soy sauce.
Fun fact - one of the reasons we hot sauce enthusiasts love really, really hot peppers is so they don't _need_ to use extracts to make really hot sauces. It's because, as you learned, they don't taste very pleasant.
The profile is indeed different in a bad way. Using the actual fruit gives you all those native oils and chemicals that add a lot to the flavour complexity, that get removed in the extraction process. Its a bit closer to what it's like to eat artificial cherry or grape flavoring versus just eating the actual fruit.
I try really hard to not purchase extract sauces unless it's mixing into a big batch of chili or something. Spot on though, I want pepper flavor - not bitter heat.
This stuff is incredible! I worked at a food factory around 15 years ago. We used to have capsaicin on salt and capsaicin oil which we used for the industrial production of sauces. I managed to get a single grain of the salt in my eye while taking a sample for QA and I cried spicy tears for over a week. One guy spilt a bottle of the oil on his lap and had to go to hospital. We had showers in our locker rooms, and he'd been in there to try and clean himself up (in a panic). Later that day when people showered they complained about their feet feeling like they were burning.
Its worth mentioning that capsaicin isnt the only culprit responsible for a pepper's spice. There are quite a few other capsaicinoids that contribute. This is why different types of spiciness exist. Like, a jabanero isnt the same 'kind of heat' that you might get off of a pepper with a similar scoville rating, because different ratios of different capsaicinoids change the heat level and type of burn drastically. Not sure if your process was selectively extracting raw capsaicin, or if it was designed to pull all the lesser capsaicinoids out as well.
A great point. The Last Dab Xperience, for example, is very much a 'front of mouth' type of burn and it doesn't linger. It burns bright and hot, but flames out just as fast.
Which is why jalpeneos are harder on my system than a lot of spicier peppers, idk what it is that's in them but the stomach cramps from it are as bad as from like scorpion peppers which are waaaaaaay spicier
There is a very good and simple explanation for why that couple little bites from the red habanero was way spicier than that Xperience sauce. That's because the red habanero can get up to 500,000 shu, but the experience sauce was recently found to only test at 61k shu. Whoever put on the label that the Xperience sauce is 91% of a pepper the averages almost 2.7 million shu was fos...
@jess648 no Ed is literally just scamming the entire pepperhead community. No one's had a physical pepper and they're lying about the sauce... 2 points make a line.
My son when he was a toddler wanted to eat hot foods with dad, so nachos with excessive jalapeños was his starting point. A couple days later, his limited vocabulary produced "Dad do you get a Spicy butthole after nachos too?" Gawd damn son, yes, I get a spicy butthole too.😂 kids are the greatest thing ever man.
Once back in the day, (sometime around 2006) I was working with some kids at a restaurant. One of them started to brag about how they could handle the hottest things period no problem. The next day, I went to the grocery store and purchased some fresh scotch bonnet peppers. The next shift, after dinner rush, I brought the convo back to spicy hot foods. Just as I thought, the kid started his boasting and bragging about his hot tolerance. That is when I busted out the scotch bonnets and offered him one. His eyes went wide but to his credit, he didn't back down. I set the condition that he has to chew it at least 10 times before swallowing. To the kids credit, he did it. Then promptly suffered miserably. Sweat, red face, tears, moaning while rocking back and forth. The works. I didn't tell him about the milk trick so he was guzzling water. Once his ordeal was over. He admitted that he couldn't handle super hot. He never boasted or even brought up spicey hot tolerances, ever again.
Yeah never boast about your pain tolerance. The kids in elementary used to encircle me and start pinching/slapping me, turns out i have a pain tolerance but not a tight space tolerance
It's so weird-I bought some habaneros and some scotch bonnets last week, and all the habaneros were hot, but only 2 out of 5 scotch bonnets were especially hot. The other were fruity and pretty mild. I labeled and saved their seeds so those might be fun to grow.
@@moofree Good move...for instance I love habaneros and know that there are now some varieties that have the same flavor without the heat. You might end up growing a pepper that does that.
I love scotch bonnet sauces. Ill have to try a raw one sometime. I have a good tolerance, but raw peppers are another level compared to hot sauces and cheeses.
Completely unrelated to the actual video content itself - I LOVE seeing the board games in the background. Ticket to Ride is such a wild bunch of fun with the right people.
As a Carolina eater, my personal theory as to why a fresh pepper is potentially more potent than a sauce or extract is as follows. The other ingredients in fresh peppers also stimulate different taste buds, so the brain receives a broader range of signals than from sauce or extract alone, where some components are lost in processing. The whole experience is therefore more intense, and the gut microbiome may be similarly affected.
It shouldn't considering how weak acetic acid is, but if it does, it wouldn't effect anything, since aluminum acetate doesn't typically dissolved in the organic solvents. So when I mixed the capsaicin with water for steam distillation and then extracted it with ethyl acetate, any salts should've remained in the water layer.
Love the video, love the pepps, one thing non Spanish speakers often miss is: “ñ” and “n” are different letters, jalapeño and habanero don’t sound the same
We used to dare each other to eat whole habaneros at school when I was young. Like you said, the pain from a habanero can actually feel worse than from a hot sauce. I remember one girl started crying after eating a whole habanero.
I’ve also always agreed that fresh peppers are always way hotter than most of my sauces. I have 850k scoville unit red pepper flakes. 450k scovvile green pepper flakes. All kinds of hot sauces ranging into the millions. Sometimes a fresh jalapeño will still kick my ass.
Really cool science is also how they lab test for SHU rating. Like how the pepperX sauce tested only at 61,000. It’s good we can confirm stuff like this.
Thanks for not freaking out and pretending to be on the verge of tears over some hot sauce. Experience with spicy food means you are conscious of the pain and I hate watching people writhe around in pain for the camera. You handled it like a champ, to the detriment of family and friends who want to see you suffer lol
Right? I get that everybody has a different tolerance to spiciness and pain, but so many people just freak out, over the top and hyper. LA Beast is kinda my baseline, even though what he consumed was kinda crazy, his own body told the whole story and to me, that really cant be faked. 5 years ago me and my two friends tried a whole ghost pepper, each. None of us ever had something spicier than store-bought chilli peppers up to that point. We ended up laughing at one another for hickupping while drooling and tearing up super hard for loke 30 minutes, it was actually oddly satisfying.
@@vavra222 Absolutely - We're not saying it doesn't hurt right? But I have never felt like I need to flail my arms or gag or just let snot run down my face for the next 30 minutes. You get the adrenaline rush and the shakes, limbs will go cold, sweating, maybe your stomach is pissed off and is churning for a bit. But running around crying is not a solution to any of that.
They dont do it for the camera. Go eat a spoonful of true scoville hot sauce and not a sauce that uses a pepper then dilutes it in sauce. Try 2.5 mil and Id bet you would be rolling on the ground crying and wanting to go to the hospital because your stomach hurts so bad.
@@investigator2016 But we´re not really talking about sauces, are we? Just "plain" old super spicy peppers and such, you know damn well what we mean, stop playing high and mighty for no reason.
@@vavra222 Huh? We were literally talking about hot sauce. 😂. To me it sounds like this person has no idea the extreme pain people go through with aome of these sauces. This guy didnt eat anything special in this video even.
Wow, actual column chromatography on a chemtube video, you don't see that every day! I'm all about it. Columns are so tedious to run but also fun in a way.
Interesting video.Keep em coming. Despite my moniker/thumbnail, I never suffer any 'after-burner' from chili peppers, once its passed my gullet its done. I grew and ate Bhut Jolokias last year, they are fierce but no legacy effect. My cat also loved really spicey chicken, way hotter than most people can tolerate, she also liked a sip of pure lemon juice, weird cat; RIP at 18-years. :-(
Last year I had a very unpleasant encounter with naga jolokia sauce in a burrito. Not even the actual pepper and I had to split one small burrito in to two servings, one of it with a healthy dose of icecream (more like I scream thou).
love it! that is some spiiiicyyyy stuff! --- now you need to take that extract and mix it with some everclear / acetic acid to carry it into the skin and make some unholy 'Pepper Spray' weaponized pepperX
Dude, im drunk, its 4am here, you are legend mate :D im watching you after habanero - i love your composition, true legend my man :D! Edit: I fking love how you looked at that last wing with pure stuff. Right after pepper, pure freaking fear xDDD
I had a garden and used to grow different varieties of peppers and other vegetables, but I would always tell my friends how much hotter the peppers were if you just bit the pepper itself compared to being in a sauce. Needless to say one of my friends Chris, who thought he was the king of eating hot pepper sauce popped a whole Carolina Reaper in his mouth and started chewing it up. In a matter of seconds, Chris started sweating, crying, and eventually throwing up, he drank a whole gallon of milk, then threw that up, he couldn’t even stand upright and kept falling to the ground, this went on for a good 20 to 30 minutes when he finally asked us to call an ambulance. Once they arrived he was starting to feel some relief so he decided not to go to the hospital, but he was still billed an exuberant amount of money. Everyone that was there was on the floor laughing and crying so hard our sides hurt, which is what men do when their friends almost kill themselves. Whenever we get together now this story always comes up and Chris always gets mad and asks when are we going to stop bringing this story back up, which of course the answer is, we are never going to stop. So get over it Chris, now the whole internet knows.
I'd never dare to eat a whole hot pepper...I like the flavor and experience, not hurting myself, lol. Although, on the day of the chili cookoff I mentioned, I did bring the rest of the Reaper peppers, and a little girl I knew actually popped a whole one in her mouth and ate it! She said it wasn't fun, but that was about the extent of her suffering. Seriously impressive, my reaction probably would've been more like Chris, haha!
I used to handle habanero just fine, and 1 day I saw CVS of all places selling Carolina reaper chips.. I entered some other kind of world eating that bullshit..
There has been a test carried out on this sauce which you are using , and the scoville heat unit score is about 61,019 Accuracies of a SHU sample from a sauce are questionable. The bottle states 91% pepper X . Pepper X comes in around 2.7M SHU.... 91% pepper X.... Hmmm I'm no mathematician but there's something wrong there.
16:30 It's my theory that the reason why the sauces don't exhibits the same level of heat as the actual fresh raw pepper is that the sauce's additives, in particular the sugars and oils, coats and partially isolates the capsaicin from the taste buds and other heat sensing sensors in mouth and throat. I am a cook in a Mexican restaurant and we often try to set bonfires in both ends of each other's GI tracts, in particular in the mouths and throats on one end and the posterior orfices in the other end. 🥵😅😉😁
I had grown some jalapenos from seed, they ended up about half the size they do from the store. I wanted more seeds so I let them get nice and red. I took the center of the peppers out, threw it in water and removed the seeds. I took the center and blended it with a little vinegar and that stuff was super spicy extra evil sauce.
Red savinas habanero is delicious, the real heat kicks in a few minutes after consuming but the initial flavor is very sweet and delicious but the heat is serious after it kicks in. Really cool video. I used to grow red habanero for cooking.
Definitely right about total available capsaicin content lowering with processing of the chilis. I make hot sauces using mostly a reaper dragon cross I've been growing for a few years and eat the sauces regularly. Very hot sauces. Been a while, so decided to chew a whole chili while watching just to remember how much hotter it was than a sauce. So much hotter that I had to pause the video until I could recover. lol
At my work we have oleoresin capsicum and natural mustard oil. We use stainless steel bottles with a skull and cross bones to weigh it out for the batch. Spicy stuff is insane.
The demo reminds me of what they called "challenge food" as a kid with red hots and other cinnamon candies. I stuck with the whole video so made it liked.
I don't know the level, but try Elijah's Regret Reserve. It is Reaper, scorpion, and habanero. They use fresh peppers to get as much heat as they can. Love their stuff.
Once me and my GF ate entire carolina reaper each... 3 years later I still think it was a mistake :P ~20 minutes of pure agony. You on the other hand just casualy sample pure capsaicin on the chicken wing. Impressive.
From my understanding pure capsaicin isn't anywhere near as spicy as capsaicin in something like a pepper cause it's not very soluble in your mouth so you just don't react to it as much
Yeah Ed must’ve paid off Guinness or something because independent lab tests have shown that the sauce at least, is only around 60,000 SHU’s. Nowhere close to 2.4 million.
The pepper can be worse then a sauce because you chew the pepper and little pieces get in your teeth so when you take a drink they still remain just sitting there hot af lol
IME eating raw hot peppers hits _way_ harder than any hot sauce or spicy cooked dish. Like, I have no problem eating Indian hot or Thai hot food; it can push the bounds of my tolerance, but it's doable. But eating neat jalapeños feels way burnier.
I just found your channel, love the video and your heat tolerance lol! Honestly I love chemical science although I’m too stupid to do it myself, I love channels that not only show how it’s done but the science behind the molecular chains. God bless you man. What would you job title be doing this for a living? Honestly, I’d like to know. My best guess would be chemical engineer or something? Lmk!
they put it in 'computer air dusters' -- i'm sure everyone has turned the can 'upside down' and slowly sprayed it to release the liquid which comes out and boils immediately.. i was dripping it on my had many years back and some time later at lunch my fingers touched my lips and the most acrid bitter taste took over everything it took some thinking but finally put 2 and 2 together and realized it was the air duster and found denatonium benzoate is what they use to keep people from 'abusing' the stuff.. absolutely AWFUL in a very impressive way hours later by just the slightest cross contact of my hand to lips at lunch ,,, stuff is NASTY@@LabCoatz_Science
Him: eats an almost pure version of the oil that makes every pepper spicy, and is about 16 times hotter than a ghost pepper Also him: I'd say It's a pretty mild spice
It's because he made that extract from something that was only roughly 60 to 70,000 scoville units. If he had made an extract from something like a seven pot primo, a ghost pepper or Carolina reaper pepper X or a chocolate primitale and he tried the extract of that then he'd likely be in the hospital.
I took about 100 mg of The Source neat in a capsule, avoiding the tongue limiting factor, at least for a few minutes. It was like vomiting Tabasco. Then the diphoresis hit, the beads of sweat rolling into my eyes burned deeply. Next was micturation of fire and finally the pyloric sphincter dilated and liquid fire shot through my small and then large intestines uncontrollably. After 6 hours, the total body war was over and I had defeated The Source. I felt refreshed and like new. I had flooded my body with endorphins released by the pain.
@@cookingwithkimbap4432 really, thats what you chose to comment. Could have said anything to support LabCoatz and you chose to pick on the word “brah”…… smh, get a life. Nice cooking videos! Oh wait, you have none
Crazy chemistry skills! I agree that sometimes fresh peppers are worse than supposed hot sauces. The hottest thing I tried was a bit of 2.7 mil extract, it was vile and almost immediately gave me stomach cramps....nasty
From personal experience iv found that hot sauces are easier to eat neat than a raw pepper. I used to watch a UA-camr take his hot sauces off a spoon and was keen to try his method from a sauce I made. My own personal fusion of scorpions and ghosts was an easy eat in comparison to even a standard supermarket scotch bonnet (habanero) I think because the sauce can go straight down where with a pepper you are going to cost it around every part of your mouth during the chewing phase before you can swallow. Only twice in my life have I had bad toilet experiences from chilli. Once was going through a full jar of pickled birds eye chilli's. And the other was a small thumb nail size of a dried ghost pepper.
Man you made me so hungry watching this. Capsaicin is the thing I fein for. Nothing quite like the rush of tricking your body. Better than any drug I've tried in my youth, and I have tried some shit. That chicken sounded crunchy and good too.... Im gonna go make 2x Buldak... lolol Keep up the good work!!!! P.S. I think the oils in a natural pepper tend to keep the Capsaicin in your mouth longer. Hence the feeling that it is hotter....
I was dared to chew up and hold a chocolate habinaro in my mouth for 1 minute, and then spit it out. I did it but for 30 minutes afterward i was dizzy to the point i thought i was gonna pass out.
I'm not a huge fan of spicy foods, I like a little heat, but one day at Publix I saw Carolina Reaper cheese slices. It's pretty much Pepper Jack cheese with more Habanero and the inclusion of the Reaper, obviously. I had to buy it. Eating ONE SLICE kicked my ass, immediate burn that lasted a good 30-60 seconds...I wanted another though. I gave one to my friend and he was like "Whoa, yeah, that's spicy". I wash my hands after handling the slices just as a precaution. You can't really use it on anything without the inclusion of other cheeses because the burn just overpowers all other flavors. After eating those for a while, I wanted to see how it compared to a Habanero, so I bought one (there are apparently many different species, the one I got was about 1/2-1/4 the size of the ones you have). I had the milk ready and took a bite, which was about 75% of the pepper. It was like someone lit a fire in my mouth, immediate full on firey pain. If the cheese was about a 4 or 5, then the pepper was about a 7 or 8.
Scoville rating.. hmm just messaged my local hot chicken place to see what they rate it at. Or I go there and do science. Even their hush pupplies are spicy. (Voodoo Chicken, Tennessee.. ) although it seems like normal chickens)
Is it true that capsaicin and dihydrocapsaicin rapidly decompose at temperatures above 190 °C? I thought we shouldn't do that to keep the heat. 🤔 Awesome video btw 😎, I love the science teached. 😊
Here is the problem, The last dab Xperience has actually been tested in a lab and it's only 61,019 SHU not even close to the 2.6 million everyone assumes it to be. Don't believe me? Have it tested yourself.
Ok this makes me feel batter now. I ate a habenero in high school thinking it wouldn’t be that bad compared to the ghost pepper at the time and it nearly killed me bro that shit was so hot.
Your offer is tempting. I've done the one chip challenge and that was hot. But this one picks my curiosity for my spiciness. Now, for anybody that is tempting to do this. Do not do it. Do not do it if you cannot handle high levels of capsaicin you will regret it afterwards
Thanks, the milk was just chocolate milk in a bluish glass, haha. I hate the taste of plain milk, but I needed something to cool myself off after the hot sauces!
Alright, I've heard the news: according to other sources, the Xperience sauce barely scores over 60,000 Scovilles according to lab tests. Not sure what's up with that. My bottle was definitely hotter than the sauce I made from Reapers and ghost peppers, which I assume is hotter than at least 500,000 SHU...maybe they got a bad batch of sauce?? I really don't know. Maybe my peppers were weak! It does kind of check out though: if the sauce really was over 2,000,000 Scoville, I should've gotten way more capsaicin out...like up to FORTY TIMES MORE! Several GRAMS. Regardless, I'm glad to have extracted at least some of Ed Currie's precious capsaicin! He can keep Pepper X out of reach for now, but at least I've got something that's hotter!
Yeah you know this is turning out to be pretty weird because I have had this sauce and it is definitely over a million scovilles. Either he did get a bad batch. Or there is something else in pepper x that is burning us. Or Johnny is being untruthful about something which I doubt. This will be interesting to see play out.
The other interesting thing is a sauce that in theory should be 2 million SHU isn’t as hot as a bite of a red habanero? That is also interesting just from LabCoatz reaction.
Somebody should have all kinds of sauces tested for their SHU.
There are many sauces claiming they are the hottest while not even coming close to the heat level of a single super hot pepper.
Somebody is getting sued for making a false claim just wait and see.@@merlost1624
Johnny scoville wouldn't lie about it. I got a bottle sent to Scotland and it was never 1 million let alone 2. I have hotter British sauce in the cupboard. It's a big of a scam if you ask me.
You might be surprised to hear this but that exact same Pepper X sauce was just tested and came back at 61,019 SHU. I'm not a chemist but I grow superhot peppers and there are some things that just don't add up about Pepper X and that sauce in particular. If you want a truly world class superhot pepper get a Chocolate Primotalii.
i suspected something like this, what a shame
Guinness records is a sham and has been for a while now. You pay them $50,000 and they come out with their little plaque and give you a record. As soon as I saw they were involved I assumed it was bs.
I was about to say something similar. I got the Xperience sauce I think just under a month after it came out and tried it for the first time on camera, and I knew something wasn't adding up because a spoonful of it wasn't any more spicier to me then a bottle of store-bought habanero sauces and I even called it out on video that I wouldn't be surprised if it was no more than 100K shu, and sure enough after getting lab tested recently it was barely over 60k so the claim on the label that the sauce contained 91% of a pepper that is supposed to be almost 2.7 million Shu average was complete BS. I feel really bad that this guy went through all of this trouble to make extract from a sauce that doesn't even average as high as a Thai pepper, in fact barely more than a cayenne pepper.
Likely one pepper was tested for the record and not all of them are that hot. If you grow hot peppers, you already know that they are not all equal, even from the same plant.
It makes sense that the nibble of the habanero was a lot hotter than the Last Dab XPERIENCE
This is a very similar process to what we currently use to extract morphine/ codeine/ thebaine and oripavin from poppy straw. (especially the chromatography)
Ive worked 15 years at a factory that can produce 1/3 of he worlds opioids.
This video explained more then almost all of the training at the average factory workers revived. the exception was the labs and R&D staff.
Well done.
Yea let the meth heads Kno how to make stuff that's smart why would u admit that u should of said there was steps missing lol
Oh boy, I could not work there, i'd get in trouble lol.
When I was a kid in the late 60's, my Navy Dad claimed a friend of his won a bet (aboard their ship) by drinking a whole bottle of Tabasco Sauce. The Hot Sauce industry has now advanced beyond my wildest dreams. ❤
I drank a bottle of Tabasco on a bet in the mid 90s, it really wasn’t bad. Just a regular sized bottle though, you could do physical damage to yourself with a larger one, like how people have died drinking soy sauce.
props to him, I'd explode if I did that
I'd be more worried about the amount of acid in a bottle of tabasco, thatn the amount of heat.
@@Mp57navy it’s the salt that could hurt you
@@Mp57navy id be worried about both. the vinegar wearing down lining, and the spice getting direct contact with your intenstines. ouch.
Fun fact - one of the reasons we hot sauce enthusiasts love really, really hot peppers is so they don't _need_ to use extracts to make really hot sauces. It's because, as you learned, they don't taste very pleasant.
The profile is indeed different in a bad way. Using the actual fruit gives you all those native oils and chemicals that add a lot to the flavour complexity, that get removed in the extraction process. Its a bit closer to what it's like to eat artificial cherry or grape flavoring versus just eating the actual fruit.
I try really hard to not purchase extract sauces unless it's mixing into a big batch of chili or something. Spot on though, I want pepper flavor - not bitter heat.
That's why i use capsaicin crystals and capsaicin in ethanol- flavorless heat hahaha
@@thevalorousdong7675 So you use extract......
The reason we love hot peppers is so they don't need extracts? What a dumb thing to say that makes no sense.
This stuff is incredible! I worked at a food factory around 15 years ago. We used to have capsaicin on salt and capsaicin oil which we used for the industrial production of sauces. I managed to get a single grain of the salt in my eye while taking a sample for QA and I cried spicy tears for over a week. One guy spilt a bottle of the oil on his lap and had to go to hospital. We had showers in our locker rooms, and he'd been in there to try and clean himself up (in a panic). Later that day when people showered they complained about their feet feeling like they were burning.
New nightmare unlocked, thanks dude!
Its worth mentioning that capsaicin isnt the only culprit responsible for a pepper's spice. There are quite a few other capsaicinoids that contribute. This is why different types of spiciness exist. Like, a jabanero isnt the same 'kind of heat' that you might get off of a pepper with a similar scoville rating, because different ratios of different capsaicinoids change the heat level and type of burn drastically. Not sure if your process was selectively extracting raw capsaicin, or if it was designed to pull all the lesser capsaicinoids out as well.
A great point. The Last Dab Xperience, for example, is very much a 'front of mouth' type of burn and it doesn't linger. It burns bright and hot, but flames out just as fast.
Habanero*, also you don’t pronounce the ‘h’
Which is why jalpeneos are harder on my system than a lot of spicier peppers, idk what it is that's in them but the stomach cramps from it are as bad as from like scorpion peppers which are waaaaaaay spicier
@@Finn_553you definitely say the H in Habanero…
@@lilkittygirl I literally speak Spanish
There is a very good and simple explanation for why that couple little bites from the red habanero was way spicier than that Xperience sauce. That's because the red habanero can get up to 500,000 shu, but the experience sauce was recently found to only test at 61k shu. Whoever put on the label that the Xperience sauce is 91% of a pepper the averages almost 2.7 million shu was fos...
it’s marketing buzzwords because their too scared to actually sell something at 2mil+ shu lol
I hate this gating bullshit. If your're going to be chicken out of selling it then don't get it publicly tested and waste all of our time.
@jess648 no Ed is literally just scamming the entire pepperhead community. No one's had a physical pepper and they're lying about the sauce... 2 points make a line.
The REAL science happens in the bathroom when that spice works through Zach's biology.
it's called dropping hot snakes.
My son when he was a toddler wanted to eat hot foods with dad, so nachos with excessive jalapeños was his starting point. A couple days later, his limited vocabulary produced "Dad do you get a Spicy butthole after nachos too?" Gawd damn son, yes, I get a spicy butthole too.😂 kids are the greatest thing ever man.
“I fell into a burning ring of fire…”
i would pray to god to strike me down at that point
Might be more religion than science at that point
Once back in the day, (sometime around 2006) I was working with some kids at a restaurant. One of them started to brag about how they could handle the hottest things period no problem. The next day, I went to the grocery store and purchased some fresh scotch bonnet peppers.
The next shift, after dinner rush, I brought the convo back to spicy hot foods. Just as I thought, the kid started his boasting and bragging about his hot tolerance.
That is when I busted out the scotch bonnets and offered him one. His eyes went wide but to his credit, he didn't back down. I set the condition that he has to chew it at least 10 times before swallowing. To the kids credit, he did it. Then promptly suffered miserably. Sweat, red face, tears, moaning while rocking back and forth. The works. I didn't tell him about the milk trick so he was guzzling water.
Once his ordeal was over. He admitted that he couldn't handle super hot.
He never boasted or even brought up spicey hot tolerances, ever again.
Yeah never boast about your pain tolerance. The kids in elementary used to encircle me and start pinching/slapping me, turns out i have a pain tolerance but not a tight space tolerance
It's so weird-I bought some habaneros and some scotch bonnets last week, and all the habaneros were hot, but only 2 out of 5 scotch bonnets were especially hot. The other were fruity and pretty mild. I labeled and saved their seeds so those might be fun to grow.
@@moofree Good move...for instance I love habaneros and know that there are now some varieties that have the same flavor without the heat. You might end up growing a pepper that does that.
I love scotch bonnet sauces. Ill have to try a raw one sometime. I have a good tolerance, but raw peppers are another level compared to hot sauces and cheeses.
Good work 😅🤣
RIP your toilet
🤦♂️Don't be so silly he had baby drops of each sauce and a baby bite of the chilly 😂
The column chromatography made this a next level extraction! This was definitely the coolest capsaicin video I’ve seen 🔥👏🏼
Major bonus points for running a column on this. I really wish it was more frequent in UA-cam chemistry videos.
Completely unrelated to the actual video content itself - I LOVE seeing the board games in the background. Ticket to Ride is such a wild bunch of fun with the right people.
As a board game geek my eyes immediately went to that shelf hahaha
As a Carolina eater, my personal theory as to why a fresh pepper is potentially more potent than a sauce or extract is as follows. The other ingredients in fresh peppers also stimulate different taste buds, so the brain receives a broader range of signals than from sauce or extract alone, where some components are lost in processing. The whole experience is therefore more intense, and the gut microbiome may be similarly affected.
Doesn't the vinegar in the sauce react with the aluminiumfoil during drying? A foodgrade silicone mat might be better?
It shouldn't considering how weak acetic acid is, but if it does, it wouldn't effect anything, since aluminum acetate doesn't typically dissolved in the organic solvents. So when I mixed the capsaicin with water for steam distillation and then extracted it with ethyl acetate, any salts should've remained in the water layer.
Love the video, love the pepps, one thing non Spanish speakers often miss is: “ñ” and “n” are different letters, jalapeño and habanero don’t sound the same
We used to dare each other to eat whole habaneros at school when I was young. Like you said, the pain from a habanero can actually feel worse than from a hot sauce. I remember one girl started crying after eating a whole habanero.
I’ve also always agreed that fresh peppers are always way hotter than most of my sauces.
I have 850k scoville unit red pepper flakes. 450k scovvile green pepper flakes. All kinds of hot sauces ranging into the millions.
Sometimes a fresh jalapeño will still kick my ass.
Pretty hot topic!
Really cool science is also how they lab test for SHU rating. Like how the pepperX sauce tested only at 61,000. It’s good we can confirm stuff like this.
Thanks for not freaking out and pretending to be on the verge of tears over some hot sauce. Experience with spicy food means you are conscious of the pain and I hate watching people writhe around in pain for the camera. You handled it like a champ, to the detriment of family and friends who want to see you suffer lol
Right? I get that everybody has a different tolerance to spiciness and pain, but so many people just freak out, over the top and hyper.
LA Beast is kinda my baseline, even though what he consumed was kinda crazy, his own body told the whole story and to me, that really cant be faked.
5 years ago me and my two friends tried a whole ghost pepper, each. None of us ever had something spicier than store-bought chilli peppers up to that point.
We ended up laughing at one another for hickupping while drooling and tearing up super hard for loke 30 minutes, it was actually oddly satisfying.
@@vavra222 Absolutely - We're not saying it doesn't hurt right? But I have never felt like I need to flail my arms or gag or just let snot run down my face for the next 30 minutes.
You get the adrenaline rush and the shakes, limbs will go cold, sweating, maybe your stomach is pissed off and is churning for a bit. But running around crying is not a solution to any of that.
They dont do it for the camera. Go eat a spoonful of true scoville hot sauce and not a sauce that uses a pepper then dilutes it in sauce. Try 2.5 mil and Id bet you would be rolling on the ground crying and wanting to go to the hospital because your stomach hurts so bad.
@@investigator2016 But we´re not really talking about sauces, are we? Just "plain" old super spicy peppers and such, you know damn well what we mean, stop playing high and mighty for no reason.
@@vavra222 Huh? We were literally talking about hot sauce. 😂. To me it sounds like this person has no idea the extreme pain people go through with aome of these sauces. This guy didnt eat anything special in this video even.
Your videos are becoming increasingly heroic. Bravo!
Just found this channel and I love it! Thank you!
Wow, actual column chromatography on a chemtube video, you don't see that every day! I'm all about it. Columns are so tedious to run but also fun in a way.
Interesting video.Keep em coming.
Despite my moniker/thumbnail, I never suffer any 'after-burner' from chili peppers, once its passed my gullet its done. I grew and ate Bhut Jolokias last year, they are fierce but no legacy effect.
My cat also loved really spicey chicken, way hotter than most people can tolerate, she also liked a sip of pure lemon juice, weird cat; RIP at 18-years. :-(
Last year I had a very unpleasant encounter with naga jolokia sauce in a burrito. Not even the actual pepper and I had to split one small burrito in to two servings, one of it with a healthy dose of icecream (more like I scream thou).
love it! that is some spiiiicyyyy stuff! --- now you need to take that extract and mix it with some everclear / acetic acid to carry it into the skin and make some unholy 'Pepper Spray' weaponized pepperX
Dude, im drunk, its 4am here, you are legend mate :D im watching you after habanero - i love your composition, true legend my man :D!
Edit: I fking love how you looked at that last wing with pure stuff. Right after pepper, pure freaking fear xDDD
You sir have some balls. Sub earned. Looking forward to more videos.
really enjoyed this video
I had a garden and used to grow different varieties of peppers and other vegetables, but I would always tell my friends how much hotter the peppers were if you just bit the pepper itself compared to being in a sauce. Needless to say one of my friends Chris, who thought he was the king of eating hot pepper sauce popped a whole Carolina Reaper in his mouth and started chewing it up. In a matter of seconds, Chris started sweating, crying, and eventually throwing up, he drank a whole gallon of milk, then threw that up, he couldn’t even stand upright and kept falling to the ground, this went on for a good 20 to 30 minutes when he finally asked us to call an ambulance. Once they arrived he was starting to feel some relief so he decided not to go to the hospital, but he was still billed an exuberant amount of money. Everyone that was there was on the floor laughing and crying so hard our sides hurt, which is what men do when their friends almost kill themselves. Whenever we get together now this story always comes up and Chris always gets mad and asks when are we going to stop bringing this story back up, which of course the answer is, we are never going to stop. So get over it Chris, now the whole internet knows.
I'd never dare to eat a whole hot pepper...I like the flavor and experience, not hurting myself, lol. Although, on the day of the chili cookoff I mentioned, I did bring the rest of the Reaper peppers, and a little girl I knew actually popped a whole one in her mouth and ate it! She said it wasn't fun, but that was about the extent of her suffering. Seriously impressive, my reaction probably would've been more like Chris, haha!
I used to handle habanero just fine, and 1 day I saw CVS of all places selling Carolina reaper chips.. I entered some other kind of world eating that bullshit..
When you came back after spitting out the chicken I could hear "This was when he knew he fucked up" in my head.
@2:26 forbidden fruit roll up.
😂😂😂
At around 20:00 and beyond was pure gold! Laughed so hard at you trying to remain calm. You adventurer you! Well done.
Awesome video bro, my eyes were tearing up watching you eat the pepper x extracted capsaicin. Really enjoyed watch 😊
Lol! "That was a bit of a mistake." Good video, Sir.
There has been a test carried out on this sauce which you are using , and the scoville heat unit score is about 61,019
Accuracies of a SHU sample from a sauce are questionable.
The bottle states 91% pepper X .
Pepper X comes in around 2.7M SHU.... 91% pepper X.... Hmmm
I'm no mathematician but there's something wrong there.
I like that Louisiana hot sauce is finally getting some use in these videos!
This guy’s credibility just went out the window after that sauce was tested. Ed has a lot of paid off players
You’re welcome to try it yourself, hes willing to ship it to you.
What? Paid off player's? You sound retarded. The kind of guy that says the same thing about the NFL. 😆
I've always wondered what using pepper spray as a sauce would taste like :)
First video I’ve watched from start to end in ages! 🔥 super interesting & captivating. My mouth is salivating and I’m craving the burn 😅
16:30 It's my theory that the reason why the sauces don't exhibits the same level of heat as the actual fresh raw pepper is that the sauce's additives, in particular the sugars and oils, coats and partially isolates the capsaicin from the taste buds and other heat sensing sensors in mouth and throat. I am a cook in a Mexican restaurant and we often try to set bonfires in both ends of each other's GI tracts, in particular in the mouths and throats on one end and the posterior orfices in the other end.
🥵😅😉😁
19:26 the chicken nugget is going "oh, god! And I thought going through the oven was hot!!!! How does this burn soooo muuuuuuch?!?!?"
😂
I had grown some jalapenos from seed, they ended up about half the size they do from the store. I wanted more seeds so I let them get nice and red. I took the center of the peppers out, threw it in water and removed the seeds. I took the center and blended it with a little vinegar and that stuff was super spicy extra evil sauce.
Red savinas habanero is delicious, the real heat kicks in a few minutes after consuming but the initial flavor is very sweet and delicious but the heat is serious after it kicks in. Really cool video. I used to grow red habanero for cooking.
peppers: let's make a chemical to discourage mammals from eating us.
humans:
Haha
Definitely right about total available capsaicin content lowering with processing of the chilis. I make hot sauces using mostly a reaper dragon cross I've been growing for a few years and eat the sauces regularly. Very hot sauces. Been a while, so decided to chew a whole chili while watching just to remember how much hotter it was than a sauce. So much hotter that I had to pause the video until I could recover. lol
You’re taking heat like a bossanova!! Respect!
At my work we have oleoresin capsicum and natural mustard oil. We use stainless steel bottles with a skull and cross bones to weigh it out for the batch. Spicy stuff is insane.
The demo reminds me of what they called "challenge food" as a kid with red hots and other cinnamon candies. I stuck with the whole video so made it liked.
I knew when you started the tasting half way into the video we were in for a treat.
Very articulate great way of explaining the heat glad your a man of science
I don't know the level, but try Elijah's Regret Reserve. It is Reaper, scorpion, and habanero. They use fresh peppers to get as much heat as they can. Love their stuff.
how was it 6-8 hours later at the other end?
Once me and my GF ate entire carolina reaper each... 3 years later I still think it was a mistake :P ~20 minutes of pure agony. You on the other hand just casualy sample pure capsaicin on the chicken wing. Impressive.
From my understanding pure capsaicin isn't anywhere near as spicy as capsaicin in something like a pepper cause it's not very soluble in your mouth so you just don't react to it as much
@@noodlelynoodle. go try and then we talk :P
I've got a bottle of the Last Dab Xperience and I was pleasantly surprised by how tasty it is in addition to its potent heat.
Cool boardgame collection.
I just watched you scientifically make hot sauce and do the best impression of yourself. You earn my like my dude.
Yeah Ed must’ve paid off Guinness or something because independent lab tests have shown that the sauce at least, is only around 60,000 SHU’s. Nowhere close to 2.4 million.
1: he posted a follow up comment
2:that’s the hot sauce not the pepper which he got the record for
The pepper can be worse then a sauce because you chew the pepper and little pieces get in your teeth so when you take a drink they still remain just sitting there hot af lol
IME eating raw hot peppers hits _way_ harder than any hot sauce or spicy cooked dish. Like, I have no problem eating Indian hot or Thai hot food; it can push the bounds of my tolerance, but it's doable. But eating neat jalapeños feels way burnier.
I'm really glad you showed us the taste test 🤣 I love that.
I watched this while slowly eating pickled jalapeños. I feel weak
Pretty smart and glad you did this heat challenge it’s nice to see the abomination lol worked.
I just found your channel, love the video and your heat tolerance lol!
Honestly I love chemical science although I’m too stupid to do it myself, I love channels that not only show how it’s done but the science behind the molecular chains. God bless you man.
What would you job title be doing this for a living? Honestly, I’d like to know. My best guess would be chemical engineer or something? Lmk!
I'm so glad I found your channel!
Glad I found this channel. You have a bed sub!! Awesome!
I tried this extraction with habanero peppers and acetone as a solvent. The resulting orange oil was pretty spicy.
Video idea - bitter compounds. Is there a "most bitter" chemical?
Denatonium benzoate is the most bitter compound, but NileRed already made it year ago
they put it in 'computer air dusters' -- i'm sure everyone has turned the can 'upside down' and slowly sprayed it to release the liquid which comes out and boils immediately.. i was dripping it on my had many years back and some time later at lunch my fingers touched my lips and the most acrid bitter taste took over everything it took some thinking but finally put 2 and 2 together and realized it was the air duster and found denatonium benzoate is what they use to keep people from 'abusing' the stuff.. absolutely AWFUL in a very impressive way hours later by just the slightest cross contact of my hand to lips at lunch ,,, stuff is NASTY@@LabCoatz_Science
Ah. What about Sour compounds then?
@@koga7349 pure protons would be the most acidic
Just found your channel. Epic brother 🤘
Him: eats an almost pure version of the oil that makes every pepper spicy, and is about 16 times hotter than a ghost pepper
Also him: I'd say It's a pretty mild spice
It's because he made that extract from something that was only roughly 60 to 70,000 scoville units. If he had made an extract from something like a seven pot primo, a ghost pepper or Carolina reaper pepper X or a chocolate primitale and he tried the extract of that then he'd likely be in the hospital.
@ 14:11…..returned 3 weeks later…(just jestering) 😂🤣👍🏾
I won't be surprised a slightest bit when chubbyemu drops episode about someone being unalived after eating flaming hot pepper.
I took about 100 mg of The Source neat in a capsule, avoiding the tongue limiting factor, at least for a few minutes.
It was like vomiting Tabasco. Then the diphoresis hit, the beads of sweat rolling into my eyes burned deeply. Next was micturation of fire and finally the pyloric sphincter dilated and liquid fire shot through my small and then large intestines uncontrollably.
After 6 hours, the total body war was over and I had defeated The Source. I felt refreshed and like new.
I had flooded my body with endorphins released by the pain.
I feel sorry for whats coming to the planet Uranus. 😂 17:49
Pepper Having it's own DNA is definitely cool.... everything on this channel is wicked awesome, blows💥 my mind some of the things you can do 🤔🧐
You’re a real one brah!
Always enjoy your videos❤
@@cookingwithkimbap4432 really, thats what you chose to comment. Could have said anything to support LabCoatz and you chose to pick on the word “brah”…… smh, get a life.
Nice cooking videos! Oh wait, you have none
Okie Chemists rule! Great job Labcoatz!
Crazy chemistry skills! I agree that sometimes fresh peppers are worse than supposed hot sauces. The hottest thing I tried was a bit of 2.7 mil extract, it was vile and almost immediately gave me stomach cramps....nasty
Parchment paper, good sir. You won't have to fight it like you did with aluminum foil.
Finally, the answer to the question "Has Mad Science gone too far?"... :D
Not until I make fluoroantimonic acid...or chlorine trifluoride!
10:55 I like how 1 mil scov is just 3 bars on the spicy meter lol
I was half expecting him to drink the entire bottle of pepper-X just to calm the extract down! 😉😂
From personal experience iv found that hot sauces are easier to eat neat than a raw pepper. I used to watch a UA-camr take his hot sauces off a spoon and was keen to try his method from a sauce I made. My own personal fusion of scorpions and ghosts was an easy eat in comparison to even a standard supermarket scotch bonnet (habanero) I think because the sauce can go straight down where with a pepper you are going to cost it around every part of your mouth during the chewing phase before you can swallow. Only twice in my life have I had bad toilet experiences from chilli. Once was going through a full jar of pickled birds eye chilli's. And the other was a small thumb nail size of a dried ghost pepper.
Beautiful! That's a brave test. Love it. 😂
The movie Perfume, which I’m sure you’ve seen, could be made into a modern day film with your channel as an influence.
Man you made me so hungry watching this. Capsaicin is the thing I fein for. Nothing quite like the rush of tricking your body. Better than any drug I've tried in my youth, and I have tried some shit. That chicken sounded crunchy and good too.... Im gonna go make 2x Buldak... lolol Keep up the good work!!!!
P.S. I think the oils in a natural pepper tend to keep the Capsaicin in your mouth longer. Hence the feeling that it is hotter....
I was dared to chew up and hold a chocolate habinaro in my mouth for 1 minute, and then spit it out. I did it but for 30 minutes afterward i was dizzy to the point i thought i was gonna pass out.
I'm not a huge fan of spicy foods, I like a little heat, but one day at Publix I saw Carolina Reaper cheese slices. It's pretty much Pepper Jack cheese with more Habanero and the inclusion of the Reaper, obviously. I had to buy it. Eating ONE SLICE kicked my ass, immediate burn that lasted a good 30-60 seconds...I wanted another though. I gave one to my friend and he was like "Whoa, yeah, that's spicy". I wash my hands after handling the slices just as a precaution. You can't really use it on anything without the inclusion of other cheeses because the burn just overpowers all other flavors.
After eating those for a while, I wanted to see how it compared to a Habanero, so I bought one (there are apparently many different species, the one I got was about 1/2-1/4 the size of the ones you have). I had the milk ready and took a bite, which was about 75% of the pepper. It was like someone lit a fire in my mouth, immediate full on firey pain. If the cheese was about a 4 or 5, then the pepper was about a 7 or 8.
As a (former) molecular biologist I can confirm the stringy white stuff in the flask absolutely looks like DNA precipitated in ethanol
Scoville rating.. hmm just messaged my local hot chicken place to see what they rate it at. Or I go there and do science. Even their hush pupplies are spicy. (Voodoo Chicken, Tennessee.. ) although it seems like normal chickens)
Is it true that capsaicin and dihydrocapsaicin rapidly decompose at temperatures above 190 °C? I thought we shouldn't do that to keep the heat. 🤔
Awesome video btw 😎, I love the science teached. 😊
Here is the problem, The last dab Xperience has actually been tested in a lab and it's only 61,019 SHU not even close to the 2.6 million everyone assumes it to be. Don't believe me? Have it tested yourself.
That's basically as hot as a sauce can be without using extracts.
If I paid a lab to test a hot pepper for me.For the Scoville heat, I donated millions of dollars a year.To then I will get the results that I wanted
Not even sweating on the sauces, what a boss.
Ok this makes me feel batter now. I ate a habenero in high school thinking it wouldn’t be that bad compared to the ghost pepper at the time and it nearly killed me bro that shit was so hot.
Had you also had a ghost pepper at that time to compare it with, hence you thought you could just handle a habanero?
Your offer is tempting. I've done the one chip challenge and that was hot. But this one picks my curiosity for my spiciness. Now, for anybody that is tempting to do this. Do not do it. Do not do it if you cannot handle high levels of capsaicin you will regret it afterwards
I've always found that habaneros don't have as much heat as the super hots, but what they do have is that pins and needles pain on the mouth tissues.
I watched this entire thing fascinated without understanding a single word 😅😂
#1 love your science at the start, #2 never seen black/dark milk from a cow, just saying, and I'll DM you.
Thanks, the milk was just chocolate milk in a bluish glass, haha. I hate the taste of plain milk, but I needed something to cool myself off after the hot sauces!