“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” ― Isaac Asimov
Exactly my point on the weakness of democracy. If to that we add that the people educated/capable of making the "right" calls (pandemics, climate change, etc...) are in a minority and that a substantial amount of the majority could be "easily" mislead or manipulated then we are simply doomed.
"Celebration of ignorance" is what I call social media. Carl Sagan hit the nail on the head right there. It's quite depressing really. Good luck and Good night to all.
when people are “unable to set their own agendas” and “unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true” hit hard and he’s so right about the dumbing down in media and shorter attention spans. back in the day focus was a given. now I look at how unrealistic modern cartoons or movies are compared to 30-50 years ago
@@iceswallow7717 Funny, that he was meaning superstitious people and the fundamentalist religious rejecting science, not the rise of far-right extremists using fascist tactics to ban books, attack teachers and professors, rejecting medical professionals' advice, demonizing minority groups and so on.
Naah. Social media is not the Blame, it just added Fuel and momentum to an already utterly dumb, self absorbed, borderline illiterate, obese and truly clueless country. Truth.
@@sampleis *Tara Reade* Funny thing is, that what hypocritically shocked you so much about T locker room talk, back then, _"they LET YOU grab them by the P"_ is what B DID, plus, he refuses to release the evidence. You didn't "THINK" much about that. Did you, *hypocrite* ? Ask, Kamala..... 🤫
I thought back then, and later got it confirmed, that Fisher was just too short to hang it on him in a dignified manner. :P I'm pretty sure he got it in the novelization.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” - Carl Sagan
Malvolm X said it as well: we've been bamboozled and hoodwinked. My purple have been screaming it for years only to be silenced and met with backlash. Now, we have no other choice but to stand up and look at what our "founding fathers" and their descendants gave us.
@@SusanKay- Trump could "stand in the middle of 5th ave and shoot someone and he wouldn't lose voters." For as much as a pathological liar as he is, that statement was true.
Like it is said, if you keep repeating a lie enough times, eventually people will believe it. The evidence is staring us straight in the face. Will enough of us believe it now to make a change?
I read that book around that time, when I was a teen in Bogotá Colombia; he inspired me to become a scientist. Today I’m finishing my PhD in neuroscience.
You go Os! Carl inspired me too as a teen watching Cosmos. I got my PhD and worked as a neuroscientist until early retirement 13 years ago. Right now is a remarkable time to be in the field. Since the Human Genome Project was completed, molecular research (what I did) in neuroscience has accelerated incredibly fast, but I hope you remember to keep an eye on the human side of your work, and never lose your sense of wonder. That's what Carl taught me. Good luck to you :-)
Truly prophetic. In all honesty, I imagine he’d probably be a vocal part of the throng pushing for socialization of governments, standardization of publicly available information and willing to accept slow attrition of individual liberties in exchange for a more widespread acknowledgement of intrinsic human and natural truths. As much as I admire Sagan, this has always been my disagreement with his approach.
"The dumbing down of America ... the lowest common denominator ... the power of technology in the hands of the few ... the masses retreat to superstition ... the celebration of ignorance." Well Sagan was right and here we are!!
I was born in the UK in 1984 and only really discovered Carl Sagan around 10 years ago. He is an inspiration, as a man, as an advocate of public scientific engagement and much more. He is one of my greatest heroes and I just wish he could have stayed with us a bit longer, the world needs voices like his more than ever
He is asking exactly the same questions I'm asking if I'm seeing a sci-fi movie. Let's pretend (even if it's extremely unlikely) we would find a planet where an almost hairless, apelike species is the intelligent lifeform. Since everything that's big enough to be a planet has the form of a ball and therefore have different zones, wouldn't it be it like on earth, where the people from different regions have different colors and looks? The rest Carl Sagan says is correct as well. I just can't believe that almost nothing changed in the (40 or so) years after the interview.
So why do you think he has disappeared from the radars of the present? Besides the obvious reason like mediocrity, no real output as a scientist, cheap storytelling with no substance, all-round fake scientist and one night wonder show clown? I am 63 now. When he turned up out of the woodworks with his "Cosmos" series, I too was glued to the TV like so many others around me. It took me a few more years, to reach my own academic progress to realise what a fog maker that creep was. I'll leave it to you to walk to that light at the end of your own dark tunnel. Make sure you run to it when you see it. Good luck.
Gave me chills to read his last words. He also said: "We’ve arranged a society on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology, and this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces. I mean, who is running the science and technology in a democracy if the people don’t know anything about it."
The Trump administration, the Saudi Royal family, and the Republic of China are the biggest examples of failed leadership in this regard. They all have gaslighted their respected populaces to the point that could lead to the world's complete extinction.
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -Isaac Asimov (1980)
I have often thought of that but somehow it is difficult to gather a crowd in a stadium around a group of scientists doing lab work for the next discovery. Perhaps more scientists should get more publicity for their accomplishments. However, I fear that there may be a hurdle to understanding what they did compared to someone putting a ball in a net.
People who tell the truth don't get fanfare. George Carlin always did. He was a legend. When he passed it was like "oh yeah comedian George Carlin died". All just to redirect people away from the truth about how we royally messed things up? It's right there in front of us. Most of us just want quality of life to improve. We are wasting time following social media.
@Captain Obvious 'We are approaching a darkness in the land. Boys and girls are emerging from every level of school with certificates and degrees, but they can't read, write or calculate. We don't have academic honesty or intellectual rigor. Schools have abandoned integrity and rigor.' Professor Julius Sumner Miller. 1940
@@lillypatrick8481 i was going to comment on all the talking points and misinformation you spouted but i think the video that Honest Brian has shared has done it for me.
It's amazing how he could call out issues without insulting or placing blame on anyone or any group in particular. I strive to be as good a communicator as he was
Carl Sagan's predictions weren't as astonishing as they might sound. He was merely extrapolating from trends that had already started from then. By 1995, Reagan had already been the president, America's industrial core had started degrading, jobs were already being offshored, people were already discussing China's entry to the WTO, Newt Gingrich was already speaker of the house, we already had cable TV. And a new technology called the internet was working its way around the world.
Adapted? Lol Ppl are ppl and that will never change. Nothing changes asides from the technology and the emporers. We use to have a nice free society until the leaders of our country sold us out to corporations and the Constitution became *for the ppl instead of Of the ppl. You see how 1 lil word changes everything? Also you act like 95 was long ago but it was merely a blink of the eye. You'll understand when (or if) you get off the surface and mature a bit more. He actually touched up on that a bit when he was speaking about the dumbing down of America but you thought he was speaking about adaption like it was a good thing ppl are turning into mindless robots lol
I never once stopped having an appreciation for Carl Sagan. Carl Sagan made me realize that I was connected to the earth and the stars and to every single thing on this planet.
“a kind of celebration of ignorance”. wow did he ever nail that!!!!!
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Well to say that even in 1995 AFTER Clinton the right of center Democrat he was signed NAFTA , you had the start of FOX , Rush Limbaugh on radio and Newt Gengrich in the House, not a far leap to think of what is coming next.
That's right. Yes, there are the uneducated. But it's not a lack of education or degrees per se. A lot of people have an aversion to learning in this country. Hence, the contempt for experts. Studying never stops and it begins with critical reading. Many can't do that, and they don't have a factory to keep busy.
I think that people who are of the perspective that it is NOT necessary to continue studying throughout their entire lives should be incarcerated for the safety and security of everyone else.
Carl Sagan literally inspired me to be really interested in stargazing/ Science/ Tech & the perception that we are not as important as we think we are but are also more important than we think we are at the same time.🤯
@@alphabravo8703 Indeed! Love Christopher Hitchens. As a person living outside the United states and being young i just learned about these two people a couple of years ago.
Sagan was talking about these Trump fools, who follow a Nazi leader that likes the "Dumb & Dumber Philosophy!" Who needs Freedom when you have Trumpism, just make up your own truths and lie about everything else!
@@GordoGambler Thank you. I'd rather have truth than an imaginary voice from the sky guiding my morals. People like you abandon even the most primary rules of your chosen religion in the names of people that never existed.
Everyone has a voice on social media and now the world is confronted with an uneasy truth..... We don't need this many opinions. We want to believe adding more cooks enhances the gumbo that is our social discourse.
Exactly- we have Biden / democrats destroying every state they control and we’re so stupid, they we elect these idiots to the highest power of office. Hope you’re practicing your Mandarin. China 🇨🇳 is coming
Every word in that quote is an undeniable truth of our present state of being. Sometimes I dread being around for the next 20 years, because how badly things are right now.
@@randygibbons7817 Given the lobbying by the fossil fuel industry on the policy of the US that chance is deliberately being shrunk by corruption, greed and self interest.
Absolutely.. Being woke, to me that means intelligence, knowledge and thinking for themselves, is a bad thing and praising a horrible person and giving applause to idiots on stage is now a thing... Read many of his books and I still didn't see this coming.. How ignorant I was in my thinking that, no, not here, not in the US.. Smdh
You’re both behind .. memes and tweets with a character limit. You’re left to interpret them however you can because there will never be any context ..
Well, it may not require an astrophysicist, but obviously many of us don’t or didn’t have the requisite skills to see that, at least not many of us… that said, Im in the south, poor education, I didn’t even graduate and I could see the writing on the wall 20 years ago too… I think others were concerned about it even 50+ years ago. They were shouted down, shamed and called names for their concerns for humanity and the system that we rely on, I’m not sure things are one bit better now, just further advanced.
@@swayback7375I can tell that you haven't wasted your time; I suspect getting any degree that you want would not be difficult for you at all. Go for it! 😊
If I only had the money, support and like minded individuals who thought like myself. Carl Sagan Shaped my life in so many ways...I still think of him fondly in these days gone by. Seems less than a parsec ago
So back in the 90s I was in college getting my psychology degree and one teacher gave the most amazing lessons where he spoke of the world and what it will look like in 30 years. OMG I started seeing it about 10 years ago and today.... BOOM 💥🎯... Here we are. Exactly where he said we'd be. I took a lot of classes, had a lot of teachers but he's the only one who gave lessons you couldn't stop listening to.
@Blue Jazz you're reaching, I think he meant the media as whole and how it would influence people who don't question where the information comes from. The dumbed the better
You know, as a 41 year old, I feel like life has bullied me so much, that I keep my head down, read my sci-fi books, and buy something cool off of Amazon every now and then. I genuinely feel like nothing short of major economic, revolutionary, or global war will change things much. So instead, I stay informed, I vote, but I know we’re collectively eyeing our foot with a shotgun. As an idealist who loved history and civics when I was young, I truly bought into everything our founding fathers established (almost everything, I’m black). But when you get older, work, have a mortgage, you become disillusioned with seeing how everyone in power games the system. To the point, that well meaning people are conditioned to play the game when they first get power. Democratic or Republican, we should be a stronger republic with more quality, fact driven non-biased news, strong STEM and civics for students in order to raise quality citizens who work together. Anyways, I’m rambling, so I’ll put my head back down.
You're obviously a cut above the rest. Watch the movie Idiocracy. It's a funny movie which presents a future society 500 years from now where the average IQ is about 30.
I discovered Carl Sagan in 2008. I watched and rewatched his cosmos series several times. then I watched them once more in 2020 when the show turned 40. He's always been a voice of reason for me
An absolute legend. I'd argue his greatest contribution to science was his ability to make it accessible to everyone. He could take incredibly complex ideas and simplify them enough for the average person to understand without coming off as condescending.
The way to distinguish between an informed and intelligent person, and someone who Really knows their stuff, is that the first resort to jargon, and the second understand the information so well that they can think of a dozen everyday examples!
Isaac Asimov is another notable voice that predicted the future. “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ― Issac Asimov 1980 (41 years ago)
Isaac, who's up in Heaven now, could easily have also have forseen that modern info-tainment substitutes enriching programming for Ancient Aliens, critical commentary for pundits that argue they aren't to be believed in court, and politicians that embrace the easy appeals to chauvinism and nationalism. So it goes
@@Dcurc2257 This channel is what brought Sagan's prescient words to peoples' attention. The media Mr. Sagan was alluding to was obviously rightwing propaganda garbage like OAN, Newsmax, and FoxNews. Evidently you're one of the ignorant and misinformed that desperately needs to get out of his safe little echo chamber bubble.
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@@Brendan-Black hahaha. Take it from someone who is from former socialists country, under the government which consist of former socialist we couldn't lustrate, people like you will bring democracy down. We all use to look up to USA, now we lough at you, you are becoming more communist then we ever was and that is sad. Deevolution at work!
Yep, I emigrated from the US almost 40 years ago. Reagan's "Morning in America" was a rejection of the lessons of Vietnam War, the Great Society, and Civil Rights. It's when conservatives started ridiculing compasion as "political correctness" and championed "greed is good" and trickle down.
George was a genius!!! People are still playing catch up to the fact he was showing us truth all the time. Ignorance creates a comfortability that truth will simply not allow! Soon we will all feel the difference if not already!
Because being book smart doesn't mean you have common sense or can think for yourself. Usually. I do think he was able to collect information he received and he was able to break it down and put it into his own way of thinking. He was obviously able to think for himself and not take everything he was taught from books as the truth. Using star wars is a good example of what we are. All the different creatures resemble different cultures and stero types. It doesn't mean there are other Galaxys, but its symbolic to the nature of ppl, and quite possibly our future.
@@janetduncan87 hi how are you? explain how cancer research is a common sense or related to common sense or requires common sense to save millions of lives? In this way many of our societal issues are exterior to what common sense solutions can address. Thanks and read a book
_“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”_ -Carl Sagan *We* _are the_ *Universe* _manifest conscious. The Cosmos getting to know itself._
@@brianmax1301 became a believer? As in God? Talk about the biggest bamboozle in human history, and as he said, it's too painful for any believer to acknowledge it's all just a story like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, just not as good.
@@brianmax1301 "There was no deathbed conversion," Druyan says. "No appeals to God, no hope for an afterlife, no pretending that he and I, who had been inseparably for twenty years, were not saying goodbye forever." "Didn't he want to believe?" she was asked. "Carl never wanted to believe," she replies fiercely. "He wanted to KNOW." Ann Druyan, Carl Sagan's wife, from Newsweek
And how about some praise for Johnny Carson in having a "public intellectual" on his show and having a legitimate conversation? You don't see much (if any) of that today.
@@CBS1909 Johnny Carson was smart, funny, a good listener, a good interviewer, and someone who never tried to show anyone up but still owned the room. So, they don't have much in common
Hail yeah !!! Johnny Carson goofed around a lot but when he had intellectuals on or people that had a knowledge base Bobby Fischer whatever he seemed to always ask reasonably intelligent questions and not laugh like a buffoon for the entire time. I miss Johnny Carson and I'm old enough to remember when he was on TV
They haven't learnt that superstition and religious radicalism cause nothing but hysteria and mis-information. Just ask the innocent women burnt at the stake for being 'witches' and men tortured for daring to be of scientific dispositions during the inquisition.
You can't "replace" intelligence with emotions. It is just a lack thereof intelligence. You'll have to elaborate more on the emotional bit, because I just might be too dumb to see it 🤷
PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THIS GUY ON A PEDESTAL THAT HE DOESNT DESERVE TO BE ON! The DINOSAURS HAD FEW HUNDRED MILLIONS OF YEARS TO EVOLVE AND YET NO SENTIENT SPECIES. HUMAN ARE AROUND FOR 2 MILLION AND WE ARE HYPER EVOLVED????? HUMAN EVOLUTION IS A JOKE, NO WAY IT HAPPENED NATURALLY. LOOK AT OUR DNA AND YOU WILL FIND A TON OF EDITING!!!!! WHO EDITED IT, FOR SURE IT WASNT NATURE!!!!!!
I listen to his videos now more than I did when he was alive. He didn't care for Organized Relugions Either. Or Consumerism. What would he have to say about the nit wits flying aroynd the planet while the earth is burning up? Maybe something like "I hope they. are enjoying the veiw."
@@isha9300 i think that quote is about life the man gets overweight as he ages he married a woman with nice legs and now has to raise their annoying kids
So he predicted the Kardashians, social media dependence, today's music and movies, our politicians and the very 'news' networks that this was aired on.
I have worked in customer service for 30 years, and I knew people were really stupid. When you deal with the public day in, and out you get a sense of ignorance as a whole. That being said, in my wildest dream, I never thought the American people were as ignorant as they have shown themselves to be in the last couple of years. The biggest tragedy by far is the lack of education and ignorance in this country. Our educational system seriously needs to be looked at and completely redone. We are going the wrong way as a species. We should be getting smarter and more informed, yet as Carl Sagan said would happen is happening. If I were a young person living in this age, I would NOT have children and bring them into this mess.
I have 11 grandchildren. I great grandson. In. January 2022 we're having another great grandson. In June we'll have yet another great grandson. This world is a frightening place to as an adult. I'm sad and fearful for our grandchildren.
We have an indoctrination program called our educational system, on purpose. All a means to an end. "The USA was created to bring about a new world order." William Milton "Bill" Cooper
I’d like to agree, except he was correct about the “dumbing down” that HAS taken place, especially in the U.S.…high school students probably wouldn’t understand it, IF they could read it…
Unfortunately that wouldn't work We're in a catch-22 because of the situation, school aren't good and that would hinder trying people to teach this, and a school sucks, people don't want to learn from them
Being a high school student, this is a book I would be more than interested in reading, it could at the very least be a good read to make us think and at best something that can help us future generations completely rethink and restructure our society, government, etc.
@@kvr22_ Then you are already aware of the importance of all books! I believe you would be interested in reading it. Problem is, not as many people as you think would. All good writing deserves to be shared, but it helps to be pointed in the right direction. And all good writers serve their craft best when they succeed in inspiring others to participate in their own form of creativity, actively or passively. There have been so many richly talented writers, but he was one of my favourites, for many reasons. Dr. Sagan, with his 4 degrees, was as unassuming as he was amusing! 🙂 …and then one day, he was called upon to give his tired, but still intellectually creative, atoms back up to the collective of what is our Universe.
He was a genius, such as his Cosmos series. We do miss his mind and intellect. He was 62 when he passed, I was 51, now I am fortunate to be 77, I wish he was 88 now.
Hi Raymond your not fortunate to be the age you are you are blessed! That man might have been very smart yet so very foolish to not believe and almighty God! The Lord took him early didn't he! I hope and pray that you have accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior! I'm 51 years old now and my name is Michelle and I would love to pray with you or just even talk to you if you would like? Just post me back. John 3:16 Says It All!
@@michellecongdon6220 so what your saying is people who live long are blessed? Like do we really have to bring up the Almighty? Not all of us were born into Church or live the same way. Let the deceased man get some "media" hype
He was a genius, but he didn't realize this "everybody is special" crap got us people that reject science, holding their opinion higher than the factual evidence.
"In science, it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." - Carl Sagan
So we can circumvent the politics by re-register as no party voters and no party candidates. His degrees are worthless. We can circumvent criminal lawyers with federal licensing of lawyers without the BAR ASSOCIATION. then they can't reduce their own felonies to a misdemeanor and continue to practice law. We can reduce Healthcare costs by telling every doctor to treat every patient without designating a "specialist " for an extra charge.
Change never happen? Wasn't it happening the entire summer with business burned down and statues pulled down. Every person said I was wrong, but now I am "woke". Every four years, we change political party. Isn't that change. We voted for one party, then realize they were wrong, then we go the other way. When was the last time scientist admitted the origin of life on this planet is completely impossible. Having life travel to us from another life bearing planet is practically impossible as well. I am still waiting for scientist to say they were wrong when they said COVID can never come from a lab.
@@briangeiger9307 scientists such as the head of the Wuhan lab came out days after the outbreak saying it could've been/most likely been a viral leak due to mismanagement of funds. It wasn't the scientists covering up a story... the outbreak and its handling by rich folk and rich politicians, supports sagans theory.
I remember being in my teens in my living room listening on a small transistor radio to Carl talk and just being mesmerized by the way he made space sound so intriguing.
Right, but most mofo's who are dumb as dogshit think they are smart. Like Joe Roegen said if they came out with a test, something like a pregnancy's test for dumb people, people would have boxes stacked to the roofs of their apartments angrily denying the fact that the test... never lies.
It's a bit exaggerated by Sagan. He may be smart, but he's no god. Though he probably wouldn't want to see our current TikTok videos. That said, I can find many intelligent thought out videos on UA-cam, I'm a watcher of many of them. Things like UA-cam actually provide a platform for these things to exist which aren't financially feasible to exist on network or even cable tv (look what happened to the discovery channel and history channel). There's more opportunities than ever for smart people to learn new things, and many of them do. But we do have some serious demographic problems in that the lower IQ people are vastly out reproducing higher IQ people. We are already starting to see labor shortages because Americans just aren't skilled or smart enough to fill many jobs. The labor shortages will become catastrophic in 30 years I predict, with you unable to get any quality medical care or have competent engineers to even build buildings and bridges (though computers can largely solve this problem). That said, the problem isn't insurmountable. I do believe a small skilled set of intelligent people can lead a nation of largely useless unskilled laborers, the problem will be keeping the unemployed happy so they don't rebel.
What does that even mean? Race should include races? Are you talking about the "lack of diversity" in Star Wars when it comes to the actors who played human characters in that movie? The actors who played those roles were very much representative of the US population at that time (and all time prior). This was a movie made in the 1970s, and probably dreamed up by Lucas in the 1950s. It's a movie made in the USA for a US audience and thus had a US cast. Would actually be quite bizarre if it was anything else. The other 190+ countries in the world can make their own movies for their own audiences, and they do, and surely a lot of their local population is cast in their movies too.
@@jaychip1 There are more than white people in Star Wars. And the US population in the 1950s as well in the 1800s and 1700s etc was 85 to 90% white buddy. The remainder % almost all black people. And in many towns and cities we're talking close to 100% white. It's stats and facts. In the 1970s it was being changed by the government but still very similar numbers. So Star Wars is representative of the US. Not sure if Carl Sagan, being Jewish, identifies more as Jewish or as more white in the Anglo tradition of most Americans or not. But either way Star Wars was representative of the US population and is representative of American people.
@@philscott7949 He funded the Wuhan lab and then lied to congress about it. He's knowingly lied about all kinds of things throughout the pandemic from masks, to the possibility of a lab leak, to his involvement with social media censorship. I'm pretty sure several of those instances count as perjury, criminal negligence or malfeasance. Seems like a good candidate for legal action wouldn't you agree?
My religious denomination is unapologetically "Sagan". I passionately watched "Cosmos" as a teenager and I recall my dad once commenting , "You are even starting to sound like him." Sagan inspired my choice of college courses. He was a HUGE influence on my life.
Probably, but not very scholarly really. He came up with little original theories and basically wrote watered-down science books for the hoi polloi that any middling high school science teacher could. As soon as I got into real scholarship, I realized that Sagan was good for Junior High students (when I read all of his books after he had died), but hardly a true intellectual. He did publish in actual academic journals, but often with co-researchers (who did more of the work usually) and nothing very original.
@@dHolbach77 Dude, he wrote almost 700 publications in scientific journals and was one of the foremost experts on Venus well before he became famous. The US government literally chose him as an undergraduate student to calculate the dust cloud formation from a nuclear bomb detonation on the moon for a top secret report that wasn't declassified until decades later. Pretending like he is some pop science celebrity is downright insulting. Neil Degrasse Tyson or Michio Kaku are pop sci figures that have like less than 10 publications and the majority are just their "watered down" high school physics as you would put it. Carl has literally hundreds of publications in scientific journals and was often spot on with his speculation, such as with Quasars and his accurate prediction of the atmosphere of Venus. They aren't even remotely comparable, Carl was an actual scientist well before his career in the public eye. By the way, spamming your same comment on every single post here is just pathetic.
I prefer the original explanation that Chewbacca's culture had a taboo against medals and that letting him shout in an otherwise silent ceremony was a way of honoring his culture. But yeah, Sagan was cool. Go back and look at his interviews from the late sixties. And also note that Joni Mitchell was a fan back then. The lyrics to "Woodstock" were inspired by "an astrophysicist" she saw on television.
Celebration of ignorance is so true I miss the days when if you did something stupid you felt shame and kept it to yourself. Now people post every dumb thing they do online with no shame at all. It’s embarrassing how stupid people are and they seem proud of it.
I identify as a human and I celebrate man's supremacy. Almost every other animal is at the same state of existence they were at billions and billions of years ago. I treasure mankind. The world is an empty place, intellectually, otherwise.
@@MrJoeybabe25 The state of a human mind to live and to have something more will only ceased to exist when the human race chooses its path. And that's no joke, we bout to be living in one of them post worlds were there's just chaos and wartorn city's
if you are going to comment on a Carl Sagan video, at least have even a small bit of knowledge of what you are talking about. If you go back a billion years, earth has progressed from single celled organisms, sea creatures, plants, reptiles, dinosaurs, mammals, birds, primates, and within the last 4-5 million years what could be considered modern humans. Celebration of ignorance? Exhibit A above.
@@iowamandolinanddobro7376 Furthermore, I think octopuses are smarter and better adapted to their environment than we humans. They use ink and disguise to escape their predators. We have to run and hide from very scientifically advanced bullets, and we move around by starting billions of extremely hot little explosions, burning the remains of dead species, filling the air with poison particles. Some think that a god gave us all this speed and power. She know we like power. She knows we're too immature to handle true power. But she lets us run amok anyway. Enjoy your plastic infused air and water. Enjoy your hearty belittling and subjugation of all species and all persons you disagree with. I'm sure you have YOUR God's blessings.
And look at the first clip used to 'express' Carl Sagan. Arguably his most 'silly & fun' example of his thoughts. Why not show a clip from 'Pale Blue Dot'? No offense to Johnny, but... he was merely a well-paid comedian and not much of anything else, I'm afraid.
It's amusing that you don't realize MSNBC *isn't* the media Sagan was speaking about but rather it's rightwing propaganda media that he was foreseeing; aka Fox, Newsmax and OAN, just to name a few.
Sagan had the gift of being able to explain difficult scientific concepts in a way that simple-minded folks such as myself could actually comprehend. He wasn't just brilliant; he could effectively communicate the ideas from his brilliant mind to teach others.
Explaining ANYthing to simple-minded folks WOULD be perceived BY the simple-minded as "brilliant". But taking time & effort to verify the info, one comes to recognize the absence of logic and actual knowledge. TESLA discussed "gravity", and the lack thereof ... Brilliantly.
@@liman42 Uh .... the whole concept of reaching outer space & the glober b.s.? Just look at 2 things: Pics of old blasts from the 60s, and the official 'curve' chart data. The blast area alone is 125 miles wide, i have read - so, where is the 9,666 bending of the horizontal horizon. Those pics show the entire photo of flat horizon, on each side of the blast plume - so, I do not see ANY curve, let alone about 20,000 ft. I am only being logical, not adversarial. Then, consider the suez canal - constructed level flat....but the 100 continuous miles of construction has no 6,666' bend that i know of. Hey...Do pilots nose-down every few minutes? IF i could see the evidence, I would cheer loudly!!
@Another Comment Oh, and altitude above the earth an airplane flies needs to be consistent so yes, as you travel the altitude, to be constant, has to be corrected otherwise the plane would continue to climb until it reached it's structural limits. That's what autopilot does. It makes automatic corrections for course and altitude. That's what a pilot would have to do if autopilot wasn't engaged although there are other factors involved. " For every 60 nautical miles the airplane flies in a straight line, it has to pitch down 1 degree. But since pilots have to make constant adjustments to keep the plane leveled and maintain altitude, and since 1 small degree over 60 miles is impossible for a human being to notice, those adjustments come out as noise."
@@liman42 You must be consulting WikiPeddleCrap. At 500 mph, airPLANES would nose-down every 3 minutes. Pilots DO know this. AirPLANE windows are fisheye - to make the curve. Do combustible engines work in a vacuum? Hey, i have done my homework SINCE Disney's "magic". No delay when Nixon spoke to "the moon" guys ... not back then. I'd think a.i. or something altered that - similar to that Mandella Effect stuff. It is called Sea LEVEL for a reason. (to mock the gullible and comatose eyeballs) Did ya know the astronots are freemasons? Ever nitice satanic missiin patch symbols? Ever wonder y PLANEts are named for pagan gods? (words do matter ... as in Uranus, Dark matter Black holes and that poop shaped stuff nasa animated for folks. Ever hear of Mr.Marble? Mocking folks! C'MON now! 😆)
"...when the people have lost the ability to set their own agenda..." is what stood out the most to me. I think this explains why people so often vote against their own self-interest, and seem to do a complete 180 on their values overnight. They don't have their own ideals that they stick to; they just go with what the talking heads on tv say.
Instead of picking Star Wars apart look to the positive. It was innovative. What I thought when I saw E.T. was how easily this space creature was accepted and loved while fellow human beings of another race were not. Just a bunch of phoney baloney.
@@SusanKay- such an ignorant comment. You are precisely the kind of simple minded person the OP is talking about... you form all your opinions from talking heads, in your case it seems it’s probably late night “comedians” and SNL.
@@MsRebel Do you really think it has only to do with "white America"? No, you try again, and perhaps leave out your obvious racial prejudice, as it brings nothing positive to the discussion. If you do, you might be taken seriously by an educated person, which, for some reason, you fancy yourself to be, apparently.
@@grandwonder5858 I didn't realize the road to idiocracy was republican. I guess it depends upon whether you think a group of insulated elitists can find more useful truth than the individual. I rather prefer the free thinker.
That's not easy - Carl Sagan, Joseph Campbell, John Lennon. I also thought of Richard Feynman, Stephan Hawking, Jacques Cousteau, Jane Goodall, Alan Watts, Terence Mckenna, Carlos Casteneda, Neil Armstrong, Donald Knuth, Dalai Lama... Many more fascinating people.
@@Dyrnwyn You don't even have to do that. If you basically cynically assume that people will do the easiest, cheapest, and laziest thing, you're going to be right 9 times out of 10.
@@youtubesuresuckscock That seems like it would have to be true, once you are able to reach so many people so cheaply. "The lowest COMMON denominator" is what will get the most hits. Therefore is is purposely spread more ( to carry along the message from the commercial sponsor) , and infects more brains.
Yep, in the meanwhile, critical thinking isn't taught in schools, how to deal with media and distinguish between fact and fiction and how to check sources is barely taught in some schools in some countries, and English is finally taught to younger children, when in the 80's it was clear that this was an absolute necessity if we didn't want to find ourselves in a digital idiocracy with digitally handicapped idiots trying to lead a country in an era they know nothing about. We're only 40 years behind. Our leaders should have been brought up with all of that, yet they can't even formulate an argument without stacking a billion fallacies in a sentence and leaving out all the facts.
@@stylis666 Excellent point, our schools teach the English language as grammar, it should be vocabulary, etymology, the use and misuse of language, rhetoric as a skill. Our thought processes are shaped by our language ability.
@@wthomas7955 Well..Automation and AI are used in so many sectors like manufacturing plants.. That's why more and more people go jobless.. Losing a chance to stand..it is already happening now..
@@jeandukate1799 so where did he get his information from? If you cant answer that then youre the parrot, repeating what the next dumb down doubter said.. 🤔
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
― Isaac Asimov
That's an on point quote from Asimov (who was a very imaginative and influential author).
Beautiful. It's true.
Exactly my point on the weakness of democracy. If to that we add that the people educated/capable of making the "right" calls (pandemics, climate change, etc...) are in a minority and that a substantial amount of the majority could be "easily" mislead or manipulated then we are simply doomed.
This is it right here
The founding fathers grappled with that. That’s why the Senate was not elected by popular vote in the beginning
Asimov predicted it in 1941 (Nightfall); the mob dismisses great minds and critical thinking.
Try Robert Heinlein, "Revolt in 2100"...almost LITERALLY what we're fighting against.
Great mind. Great man as well.
or read what George Washington had to say about political parties in his farewell address. it'll sound VERY familiar.
Kurt Vonnegut
Very appropriate references guys _ i ll submit Steel Pulse Wild goose chase. 😃
Unfortunately those who need to hear his message wouldn't understand that he was talking about them.
🎯 👍🏼
Your right but enough about trump supporters
My daughters say that all the time about some of our relatives, especially the ones their age.
It's a shame you focus on the last few lines and don't see the bigger picture.,
I hate how this always happens….
"Celebration of ignorance" is what I call social media.
Carl Sagan hit the nail on the head right there. It's quite depressing really.
Good luck and Good night to all.
when people are “unable to set their own agendas” and “unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true” hit hard
and he’s so right about the dumbing down in media and shorter attention spans. back in the day focus was a given. now I look at how unrealistic modern cartoons or movies are compared to 30-50 years ago
@@iceswallow7717 Funny, that he was meaning superstitious people and the fundamentalist religious rejecting science, not the rise of far-right extremists using fascist tactics to ban books, attack teachers and professors, rejecting medical professionals' advice, demonizing minority groups and so on.
Naah.
Social media is not the Blame, it just added Fuel and momentum to an already utterly dumb, self absorbed, borderline illiterate, obese and truly clueless country.
Truth.
I wonder if Brian Williams recognized the irony of what he read?
We don't know what we don't know.
"When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent."
Isaac Asimov.
"I have hairy legs"
A senile crook.
“I never had sexual relations with that woman”
A sexual predator from Arkansas.
@@Bruv234 What does this have to do with this subject matter? Think about that, if you can.
@@sampleis
*Tara Reade*
Funny thing is, that what hypocritically shocked you so much about T locker room talk, back then,
_"they LET YOU grab them by the P"_
is what B DID,
plus, he refuses to release the evidence.
You didn't "THINK" much about that. Did you, *hypocrite* ?
Ask, Kamala..... 🤫
@@Z1BABOUINOS Let's see this "evidence"...or STFU
I remember even as an 8 year old I wondered why Chewie didn't get a medal.
Lol, me too.
I kinda thought in my young mind; had he received a medal, it would get tangled up in his hair. 😊
I thought back then, and later got it confirmed, that Fisher was just too short to hang it on him in a dignified manner. :P
I'm pretty sure he got it in the novelization.
Presumably wookiees have a religious prohibition against medals and they're just being culturally sensitive
Me too!!
Wow, I remember as a kid 1978, 8yrs old why do white people hate Black people so much and I was still upset Elvis died. smh
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” - Carl Sagan
Yes. It's much easier to fool someone than to make them see they were fooled.
Malvolm X said it as well: we've been bamboozled and hoodwinked. My purple have been screaming it for years only to be silenced and met with backlash. Now, we have no other choice but to stand up and look at what our "founding fathers" and their descendants gave us.
@@SusanKay- Trump could "stand in the middle of 5th ave and shoot someone and he wouldn't lose voters." For as much as a pathological liar as he is, that statement was true.
Wow! This is an astounding statement in these times, and so relevant to our current situation. Great quote!
Like it is said, if you keep repeating a lie enough times, eventually people will believe it. The evidence is staring us straight in the face. Will enough of us believe it now to make a change?
I read that book around that time, when I was a teen in Bogotá Colombia; he inspired me to become a scientist. Today I’m finishing my PhD in neuroscience.
Thats great I'm happy for you.
You go Os! Carl inspired me too as a teen watching Cosmos. I got my PhD and worked as a neuroscientist until early retirement 13 years ago. Right now is a remarkable time to be in the field. Since the Human Genome Project was completed, molecular research (what I did) in neuroscience has accelerated incredibly fast, but I hope you remember to keep an eye on the human side of your work, and never lose your sense of wonder. That's what Carl taught me. Good luck to you :-)
Congratulations!!
Right on!
@@beenaplumber8379 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
if he were here today, he'd probably think "this is worse than I could have imagined."
He fortunately escaped the worst. Knowing is not the same as experiencing.
He did think MJ would be legal soon, but look at where we are
"And I have a pretty good imagination"
He is likely rolling in his grave.
Truly prophetic.
In all honesty, I imagine he’d probably be a vocal part of the throng pushing for socialization of governments, standardization of publicly available information and willing to accept slow attrition of individual liberties in exchange for a more widespread acknowledgement of intrinsic human and natural truths.
As much as I admire Sagan, this has always been my disagreement with his approach.
"The dumbing down of America ... the lowest common denominator ... the power of technology in the hands of the few ... the masses retreat to superstition ... the celebration of ignorance." Well Sagan was right and here we are!!
Yes here we are. All he said was so true
If our state is predictable, then organize and incentivize the logical course corrections.
Socialist education is a wonderful thing.
But but at least I am white ... you. Diuu.
@@roughhabit9085 Socialism keeps the dumbest of them alive.
I was born in the UK in 1984 and only really discovered Carl Sagan around 10 years ago. He is an inspiration, as a man, as an advocate of public scientific engagement and much more. He is one of my greatest heroes and I just wish he could have stayed with us a bit longer, the world needs voices like his more than ever
He is asking exactly the same questions I'm asking if I'm seeing a sci-fi movie.
Let's pretend (even if it's extremely unlikely) we would find a planet where an almost hairless, apelike species is the intelligent lifeform. Since everything that's big enough to be a planet has the form of a ball and therefore have different zones, wouldn't it be it like on earth, where the people from different regions have different colors and looks?
The rest Carl Sagan says is correct as well.
I just can't believe that almost nothing changed in the (40 or so) years after the interview.
I never realised he wrote the movie contact with Jodie Foster
goon
we sure need him now. My god, the most p opular people nowadays, are athletes and movie stars. Why CAN'T they be professors or teachers??
So why do you think he has disappeared from the radars of the present? Besides the obvious reason like mediocrity, no real output as a scientist, cheap storytelling with no substance, all-round fake scientist and one night wonder show clown?
I am 63 now. When he turned up out of the woodworks with his "Cosmos" series, I too was glued to the TV like so many others around me. It took me a few more years, to reach my own academic progress to realise what a fog maker that creep was.
I'll leave it to you to walk to that light at the end of your own dark tunnel. Make sure you run to it when you see it. Good luck.
Gave me chills to read his last words. He also said: "We’ve arranged a society on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology, and this combustible mixture of ignorance and power sooner or later is going to blow up in our faces. I mean, who is running the science and technology in a democracy if the people don’t know anything about it."
Big pharma, who else? And who runs big pharma....? Connect the dots.
@@grotekleum Thanks for this I’m gonna check it out 🙏🏻
so he’s basically advocating for a technocracy
This is what happen when hunter laptop was ignoring.
The Trump administration, the Saudi Royal family, and the Republic of China are the biggest examples of failed leadership in this regard. They all have gaslighted their respected populaces to the point that could lead to the world's complete extinction.
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-Isaac Asimov (1980)
Isaac was a dirty old man that aussalted young women.
@@grantlong6586 Cool story bro.
@@grantlong6586 Be Best.
@@Billkwando :)
@@grantlong6586 have we come to this? Not everything has to be negative. Be better than that Sis.
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Isaac Asimov
And that is about all We have left..............Paul
yeah, well that is everyone on Earth then.
Sounds like he was talking about ANTIFA and BLM.
@@justgivemethetruth nah, mostly just Trump and his supporters.
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I'd like to think that, but it's just not true.
I want Carl Sagan, HG Wells, George Orwell and Nikola Tesla back. That would be an amazing dinner.
Cannibal...
Throw Da Vinci into the mix....
With George Carlin as the moderator.
Perhaps Hanibal Lecter could have Donald Trump over for dinner....With some fava beans and a nice chianti
Dream blunt rotation
Just another example of what happens when "smart" people do not get the amount of press as singers and actors
...the amount of time as dumb people
I have often thought of that but somehow it is difficult to gather a crowd in a stadium around a group of scientists doing lab work for the next discovery. Perhaps more scientists should get more publicity for their accomplishments. However, I fear that there may be a hurdle to understanding what they did compared to someone putting a ball in a net.
People who tell the truth don't get fanfare. George Carlin always did. He was a legend. When he passed it was like "oh yeah comedian George Carlin died". All just to redirect people away from the truth about how we royally messed things up? It's right there in front of us. Most of us just want quality of life to improve. We are wasting time following social media.
celebration of ignorance? SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THEM DARN RALLIES TO ME, WHAT Y'ALL THINK
@Captain Obvious 'We are approaching a darkness in the land. Boys and girls are emerging from every level of school with certificates and degrees, but they can't read, write or calculate. We don't have academic honesty or intellectual rigor. Schools have abandoned integrity and rigor.' Professor Julius Sumner Miller. 1940
"Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true"
Sounds like America
Yep...sounds like the every liberal everywhere
@@lillypatrick8481 then explain global warming.
@@lillypatrick8481 i was going to comment on all the talking points and misinformation you spouted but i think the video that Honest Brian has shared has done it for me.
Truth always made me feel better.✌️
@@billybarnes1763 What about climate change? The world needs to address it, and it is.
I miss that brilliant man. I miss the calm inflection of his voice and the concise and articulate way he explained the Universe. RIP Carl Sagan.
The world is poorer without his intelligence and wisdom.
@@Dan_Ben_Michael Also, richer for having him here to lift us up.
I thought you were talking about Johnny Carson; then I got to the end of your eulogy and stood corrected!😅
Death is a ponzi scheme proven by quantum physics a long time ago.
There are any others, if you choose to listen.
It's amazing how he could call out issues without insulting or placing blame on anyone or any group in particular. I strive to be as good a communicator as he was
"All the way back in 1995" sounds strange when most people haven't even adapted to the 21st century yet.
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I'm 50 years old, and my first thought was "1995 wasn't 25 years ago!" Haha, how time flies.
Carl Sagan's predictions weren't as astonishing as they might sound. He was merely extrapolating from trends that had already started from then. By 1995, Reagan had already been the president, America's industrial core had started degrading, jobs were already being offshored, people were already discussing China's entry to the WTO, Newt Gingrich was already speaker of the house, we already had cable TV.
And a new technology called the internet was working its way around the world.
Adapted? Lol Ppl are ppl and that will never change. Nothing changes asides from the technology and the emporers. We use to have a nice free society until the leaders of our country sold us out to corporations and the Constitution became *for the ppl instead of Of the ppl. You see how 1 lil word changes everything? Also you act like 95 was long ago but it was merely a blink of the eye. You'll understand when (or if) you get off the surface and mature a bit more. He actually touched up on that a bit when he was speaking about the dumbing down of America but you thought he was speaking about adaption like it was a good thing ppl are turning into mindless robots lol
This was 80s
I never once stopped having an appreciation for Carl Sagan. Carl Sagan made me realize that I was connected to the earth and the stars and to every single thing on this planet.
“a kind of celebration of ignorance”.
wow did he ever nail that!!!!!
Well to say that even in 1995 AFTER Clinton the right of center Democrat he was signed NAFTA , you had the start of FOX , Rush Limbaugh on radio and Newt Gengrich in the House, not a far leap to think of what is coming next.
@@activatefiasco5843Jesus called! He hates you.
@@mrmark8603*
@@activatefiasco5843 Are you limited in vocabulary? You just repeat the same nonsense to everyone here.
Just like a trumpian "nuremberg" rally.
We should listen to more intellectuals and scholars. Hello? Studying never stops.
You mean the intellectual elite 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱❗
That's right. Yes, there are the uneducated. But it's not a lack of education or degrees per se. A lot of people have an aversion to learning in this country. Hence, the contempt for experts. Studying never stops and it begins with critical reading. Many can't do that, and they don't have a factory to keep busy.
I'm still learning
That makes you a radical leftist in 2021 though. Bigly.
I think that people who are of the perspective that it is NOT necessary to continue studying throughout their entire lives should be incarcerated for the safety and security of everyone else.
Carl Sagan literally inspired me to be really interested in stargazing/ Science/ Tech & the perception that we are not as important as we think we are but are also more important than we think we are at the same time.🤯
Some people are pure light in the darkness .. we miss you Carl Sagan. RIP
... and Christopher Hitchens.
@@alphabravo8703 Indeed! Love Christopher Hitchens. As a person living outside the United states and being young i just learned about these two people a couple of years ago.
@@kristofferhellstrom Carl's explaining dumbing down. That would explain Brian Williams
Remember Piggy in Lord of the Flies? Same thing. The only one making sense was killed.
“Celebration of ignorance” that one alone explains current events
Who was it wrote, "when ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise"?
Sagan was talking about these Trump fools, who follow a Nazi leader that likes the "Dumb & Dumber Philosophy!" Who needs Freedom when you have Trumpism, just make up your own truths and lie about everything else!
Yes indeed . I call it willful ignorance .
@@leemendham4788 Thomas Gray, 1742
People burning masks.
When being a scientist, doctor or intellectual is a negative trait to so many people it’s become a very scary and sad world.
It's a return to the European dark ages
I'm pretty sure you can thank religions for that!
@@mlblja ... The GloBULL warming religion. Zuckerberg has appointed himself the GOD of LEFTYISM. All anti-dogma dissenters are HERETICS.
@@GordoGambler I think you just proved melvins point
@@GordoGambler Thank you. I'd rather have truth than an imaginary voice from the sky guiding my morals. People like you abandon even the most primary rules of your chosen religion in the names of people that never existed.
“To me, not teaching science would be perverse.. when you’re in love you want to tell the world.” - Dr. Sagan
Social Media is one of the biggest double edge swords in human history
so is profitable news
TV was much worse it did not let you generate your own content at all a slave to a box .
Everyone has a voice on social media and now the world is confronted with an uneasy truth..... We don't need this many opinions. We want to believe adding more cooks enhances the gumbo that is our social discourse.
@@danielesposito9705 and so is profitable prison systems.
It’s just tittytainment to feed junk food into our brain so when don’t think
He knew how stupid we were and would be and currently are
No doubt.
@@normalguycap And who put them in charge?
George Carlin: "Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.”
Exactly- we have Biden / democrats destroying every state they control and we’re so stupid, they we elect these idiots to the highest power of office. Hope you’re practicing your Mandarin. China 🇨🇳 is coming
The smartest of us pull the rest of us forward, the dumbest drag us down.
Every word in that quote is an undeniable truth of our present state of being. Sometimes I dread being around for the next 20 years, because how badly things are right now.
There's a chance we'll be here to see things get better.
@@randygibbons7817 Given the lobbying by the fossil fuel industry on the policy of the US that chance is deliberately being shrunk by corruption, greed and self interest.
To copy the words of the great George Carlin..
"it's never gonna get any better. Don't look forward to it. Be happy with what you got."
If you listen to the crowd react to Segan's comments you'll notice laughter,
back then they call such comments humor.
Keep the faith, we all need to, and try to be the best we can ❤️
Most excellent video! Carl nailed it exactly 25 years ago.
A “celebration of ignorance” is exactly what we’re dealing with here and now, he hit the nail on the head!
Especially in the White house
Hilarious….BLM and Woke “racism” are dying Just watch.
Absolutely.. Being woke, to me that means intelligence, knowledge and thinking for themselves, is a bad thing and praising a horrible person and giving applause to idiots on stage is now a thing... Read many of his books and I still didn't see this coming.. How ignorant I was in my thinking that, no, not here, not in the US.. Smdh
Everyone start reading books.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK
“Chewbacca deserves a medal” - Carl Sagan
I've never seen star wars but is that really true? At the end the human crew gets a medal but he doesn't?
I can't give you a like (because nice), but I can say I 100% agree
@@DaveWraptastic Yes, it's true.
Chewbacca was oath bound to Han Solo, but i agree that he deserves a medal.
Ever occur to anyone that Chewbacca may have declined to be awarded? We assume wookie culture would let him accept it.
Sagan would be horrified to know those "10 second sound bites" have been reduced to mouse clicks.
Literally just headlines. People get their news from headlines.
You’re both behind .. memes and tweets with a character limit. You’re left to interpret them however you can because there will never be any context ..
My expert says so
He speaks for us
Or extended to a whole show by Tucker Carlson...
He wouldn't have been horrified, he would have anticipated it as the natural next step in the regressive evolution of human consumption.
"The Demon Haunted World" should be required reading. It's a depressingly accurate prediction of the shitshow we're in.
"Extinction is the rule. Survival is the exception." - Carl Sagan
The failure of the public school system is cultural and intentional
@@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
Whatever troll! The topic is Carl Sagan !
Try to keep up !
@@AndiDuck sounds like you got left behind brother.
@@billybarnes1763
You sound like one of those weirdos who thinks the only gender on social media is male.
@@AndiDuck wtf are you talking about? Do you even know?
How far left behind are you? Getting a lil desperate....
I am a peon with a BA who loudly shouted the same sentiments over 20 years ago. It didn't take an astrophysicist to see where America was headed.
Well, it may not require an astrophysicist, but obviously many of us don’t or didn’t have the requisite skills to see that, at least not many of us… that said, Im in the south, poor education, I didn’t even graduate and I could see the writing on the wall 20 years ago too… I think others were concerned about it even 50+ years ago. They were shouted down, shamed and called names for their concerns for humanity and the system that we rely on, I’m not sure things are one bit better now, just further advanced.
True.
@@swayback7375
It's never too late to graduate if you wanted to. There's lots of help out there.
Good luck.
@@swayback7375I can tell that you haven't wasted your time; I suspect getting any degree that you want would not be difficult for you at all. Go for it!
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That excerpt gave me chills. That guy was a visionary. Too bad no one listened hard enough to stop it.
If I only had the money, support and like minded individuals who thought like myself. Carl Sagan
Shaped my life in so many ways...I still think of him fondly in these days gone by. Seems less than a parsec ago
So back in the 90s I was in college getting my psychology degree and one teacher gave the most amazing lessons where he spoke of the world and what it will look like in 30 years. OMG I started seeing it about 10 years ago and today.... BOOM 💥🎯... Here we are. Exactly where he said we'd be. I took a lot of classes, had a lot of teachers but he's the only one who gave lessons you couldn't stop listening to.
"The United States has gone from barbarism to decadence without knowing civilization." - Albert Einstein
That was Oscar Wild as far as I know. My apologies if I am wrong Could be of French origin to. But Its a great quote,
@@karllansche9843 You might be right! It sounds more like O.Wild than Einstein (he finished his life in America and this quote wouldn't have helped).
@@karllansche9843 Wilde.
@@wordsculpt Wilde of course. thanks !
Perfect words to sum up a nation in a single sentence.
"A celebration of ignorance" hit it on the head with that one
Pretty much describes the last four years!
@@dryroasted5599 lol, no. Biden is destroying America. But that barbecue tho.
Twitter and TikTok
@Blue Jazz MSNBC Lawyers DON'T CLAIM THEIR ANCHORS ARE ENTERTAINERS FOX DOES. GOING SO FAR AS TO ADMITTING ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY ARE NEWS ARE IDIOTS
@Blue Jazz you're reaching, I think he meant the media as whole and how it would influence people who don't question where the information comes from. The dumbed the better
You know, as a 41 year old, I feel like life has bullied me so much, that I keep my head down, read my sci-fi books, and buy something cool off of Amazon every now and then. I genuinely feel like nothing short of major economic, revolutionary, or global war will change things much. So instead, I stay informed, I vote, but I know we’re collectively eyeing our foot with a shotgun. As an idealist who loved history and civics when I was young, I truly bought into everything our founding fathers established (almost everything, I’m black). But when you get older, work, have a mortgage, you become disillusioned with seeing how everyone in power games the system. To the point, that well meaning people are conditioned to play the game when they first get power. Democratic or Republican, we should be a stronger republic with more quality, fact driven non-biased news, strong STEM and civics for students in order to raise quality citizens who work together. Anyways, I’m rambling, so I’ll put my head back down.
We need more of your input please keep going
Keep your head up brother! You spoke your peace quietly and clearly.
I appreciated reading your thoughts man!
Totally agree - and it's exactly why Sagan's predictions hit so hard
(minor critique, hit ‘return’ when you feel like rambling 😏)
You're obviously a cut above the rest. Watch the movie Idiocracy. It's a funny movie which presents a future society 500 years from now where the average IQ is about 30.
I discovered Carl Sagan in 2008. I watched and rewatched his cosmos series several times. then I watched them once more in 2020 when the show turned 40. He's always been a voice of reason for me
and its all BS
An absolute legend. I'd argue his greatest contribution to science was his ability to make it accessible to everyone. He could take incredibly complex ideas and simplify them enough for the average person to understand without coming off as condescending.
Agreed. Well said!💕
The way to distinguish between an informed and intelligent person, and someone who Really knows their stuff, is that the first resort to jargon, and the second understand the information so well that they can think of a dozen everyday examples!
The problem is most people WANT to live within their illusions.
its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
human nature.
Right, or rather their 'delusions'; Ignorance isn't 'bliss'. It can actually turn quickly into willful schizophrenia.
That's because the late 20th century & the current 21st century realities have thoroughly *sucked* so far.
@@jobob47 You just explained MAGA loyalism.
Ignorance is bliss, after all...
Isaac Asimov is another notable voice that predicted the future.
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
― Issac Asimov 1980 (41 years ago)
Isaac, who's up in Heaven now, could easily have also have forseen that modern info-tainment substitutes enriching programming for Ancient Aliens, critical commentary for pundits that argue they aren't to be believed in court, and politicians that embrace the easy appeals to chauvinism and nationalism. So it goes
@@JoMactheJ Not up in heaven, he was an atheist so knew heaven does not exist.
Yea, dumin down an its getten more worser.
All excellent. Thank you. Brian Williams epitomizes integrity.
Brian Williams a known LIAR! He also is speaking about the people he works for in this video who are dumbing down the public!
I went to my first Star Trek convention dressed as Chewbacca.
It was a Wookiee mistake.
I got a bad feeling about this
Must have been a bit of a Hairy situation.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love it! 😆lolololololololololol 😆
i assume things really got out of Han-d
Boy that last sentence about the media was right on. They are a huge factor in the "dumbing down......".
This one and all. We have great mistakes to correct. And there’s no point in even explaining them anymore. I’ve given up. People truly are ignorant.
@@Dcurc2257 This channel is what brought Sagan's prescient words to peoples' attention. The media Mr. Sagan was alluding to was obviously rightwing propaganda garbage like OAN, Newsmax, and FoxNews. Evidently you're one of the ignorant and misinformed that desperately needs to get out of his safe little echo chamber bubble.
@@Brendan-Black hahaha. Take it from someone who is from former socialists country, under the government which consist of former socialist we couldn't lustrate, people like you will bring democracy down. We all use to look up to USA, now we lough at you, you are becoming more communist then we ever was and that is sad. Deevolution at work!
You forgot Trump!
Ever hear of the US FCC's Fairness Doctrine?
Truth be told, most people in my generation could see this coming, as unfettered capitalism is bound to lead to fascism.
And it really took root with the first "stab" at trickle down. Rapidly eroding the middle class. And... here we go again.
Yep, I emigrated from the US almost 40 years ago. Reagan's "Morning in America" was a rejection of the lessons of Vietnam War, the Great Society, and Civil Rights. It's when conservatives started ridiculing compasion as "political correctness" and championed "greed is good" and trickle down.
Capitalism in the current form is highly destructive.
Malignant Capitalism.
@@spacelemur7955 Where to?
Still my favorite scientist. Almost 6 million views, MSNBC earned some of my respect for airing this.
What about George Carlin????
He talked about everything going on today in the 70s!! History repeats itself...
George was a genius!!! People are still playing catch up to the fact he was showing us truth all the time. Ignorance creates a comfortability that truth will simply not allow! Soon we will all feel the difference if not already!
Sagan talked about that in the 70s too. They are both dearly missed.
Ya like they're in a club and you ain't in it!
@@bryceanderson6437 you got it!!!
We needed GC for president
If only being smart and educated meant something to virtually everyone like it used to.
Trump MAGA followers and Covidiots are proof of the dumbing down of America.
Because being book smart doesn't mean you have common sense or can think for yourself. Usually. I do think he was able to collect information he received and he was able to break it down and put it into his own way of thinking. He was obviously able to think for himself and not take everything he was taught from books as the truth. Using star wars is a good example of what we are. All the different creatures resemble different cultures and stero types. It doesn't mean there are other Galaxys, but its symbolic to the nature of ppl, and quite possibly our future.
@@janetduncan87 hi how are you? explain how cancer research is a common sense or related to common sense or requires common sense to save millions of lives? In this way many of our societal issues are exterior to what common sense solutions can address. Thanks and read a book
Just please not the bible lol.
People have never wanted to be smart and educated. They just have ALWAYS thought they already are.
_“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”_ -Carl Sagan
*We* _are the_ *Universe* _manifest conscious. The Cosmos getting to know itself._
Mejiora he said that long before he passed away . I am so glad he became a believer on his death bed .
Nice try tho .
@@brianmax1301 became a believer? As in God? Talk about the biggest bamboozle in human history, and as he said, it's too painful for any believer to acknowledge it's all just a story like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, just not as good.
@@brianmax1301 "There was no deathbed conversion," Druyan says. "No appeals to God, no hope for an afterlife, no pretending that he and I, who had been inseparably for twenty years, were not saying goodbye forever."
"Didn't he want to believe?" she was asked.
"Carl never wanted to believe," she replies fiercely. "He wanted to KNOW."
Ann Druyan, Carl Sagan's wife, from Newsweek
@@chuckmaceanruig Quoting Newsweek is like quoting CNN .
LOL
@@brianmax1301 Denying reality is a sign of psychosis.
Carl died when I was a young boy, but boy oh boy did he change my life forever.
And how about some praise for Johnny Carson in having a "public intellectual" on his show and having a legitimate conversation? You don't see much (if any) of that today.
You do if you follow Bill Maher..
@@CBS1909 Johnny Carson was smart, funny, a good listener, a good interviewer, and someone who never tried to show anyone up but still owned the room. So, they don't have much in common
Hail yeah !!! Johnny Carson goofed around a lot but when he had intellectuals on or people that had a knowledge base Bobby Fischer whatever he seemed to always ask reasonably intelligent questions and not laugh like a buffoon for the entire time.
I miss Johnny Carson and I'm old enough to remember when he was on TV
The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, and The Late Show with Stephen Colbert have non-actors/performers on at times, but could do more to cover science.
@@harrisfleming7431 ☘️ You're spot on there! 😉
The pale blue dot. Carl gifts us so much truth, eloquently delivered.
Christian from WWE?
Sagan Gang
Intelligence has been replaced with emotions and most are too dumb to see it.
true dat!
They haven't learnt that superstition and religious radicalism cause nothing but hysteria and mis-information. Just ask the innocent women burnt at the stake for being 'witches' and men tortured for daring to be of scientific dispositions during the inquisition.
You can't "replace" intelligence with emotions. It is just a lack thereof intelligence.
You'll have to elaborate more on the emotional bit, because I just might be too dumb to see it 🤷
PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THIS GUY ON A PEDESTAL THAT HE DOESNT DESERVE TO BE ON! The DINOSAURS HAD FEW HUNDRED MILLIONS OF YEARS TO EVOLVE AND YET NO SENTIENT SPECIES. HUMAN ARE AROUND FOR 2 MILLION AND WE ARE HYPER EVOLVED????? HUMAN EVOLUTION IS A JOKE, NO WAY IT HAPPENED NATURALLY. LOOK AT OUR DNA AND YOU WILL FIND A TON OF EDITING!!!!! WHO EDITED IT, FOR SURE IT WASNT NATURE!!!!!!
This comment is a prime example of that
This is, oh man, there are so many words for this...sobering is one word that comes to mind. Thank you for this.
And this segment fails to mention his warnings about the climate and declining biodiversity. He talked about those things in his documentary "Cosmos"
I used to watch that all the time. One of my favorite shows.
@@mlblja The sequels by Neil deGrasse Tyson are awesome too
@@jamesmccarte1609 They sure are!
It's already been prophesized in the holy Bible Jesus Christ spoke of everything that's coming
@@TheBatmanjb sure he did sweetheart
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind." - Jim Morrison
The weak mind*
@@MoeToOFFeR Jesus christ had a strong mind.
*controls the weak mind. The individual unable to think for himself -- the liberal.
Yep & it's BG right now.... Who also runs... World Health.... That we blindly obey....
He died drunk and drugged.
A celebration of ignorance. Perfectly said Carl Sagan.
It’s easier to go to church and leave all the thinking to your exploiters. It’s hard to grab a brain when you don’t have one...
"A celebration of ignorance" --- Republican slogan.
That sums up any and all cults and organised religion, Trump included.
he was very ignorant
@@onlythewise1 Crikey! Just how many degrees do you hold, if you think a man with 4 degrees was ignorant?👀
I knew his first wife, an evolutionary biologist (among other credentials) and heard her influence in his perspective. How interesting
"Big bellies, fat thighs, and dumb kids." -George Carlin
I listen to his videos now more than I did when he was alive. He didn't care for Organized Relugions Either. Or Consumerism. What would he have to say about the nit wits flying aroynd the planet while the earth is burning up? Maybe something like "I hope they. are enjoying the veiw."
😃?
@@isha9300 i think that quote is about life
the man gets overweight as he ages
he married a woman with nice legs
and now has to raise their annoying kids
The kids that have a disability work harder than the "dumb and normal"kids.
@@emiliaabeyta159 is ORE an organization?
So he predicted the Kardashians, social media dependence, today's music and movies, our politicians and the very 'news' networks that this was aired on.
ok unrelated but i like your profile picture☺️
Jose, touche!
You forgot to add future hurricanes, natural disasters and NHL Stanley Cup winners.
Basically, yeah. DUH
You can still watch entertainment and be educated lol. It’s just people are lazy and ignorant
I have worked in customer service for 30 years, and I knew people were really stupid. When you deal with the public day in, and out you get a sense of ignorance as a whole.
That being said, in my wildest dream, I never thought the American people were as ignorant as they have shown themselves to be in the last couple of years.
The biggest tragedy by far is the lack of education and ignorance in this country. Our educational system seriously needs to be looked at and completely redone.
We are going the wrong way as a species. We should be getting smarter and more informed, yet as Carl Sagan said would happen is happening.
If I were a young person living in this age, I would NOT have children and bring them into this mess.
To my great regret, I can only agree with your last sentence.
I have 11 grandchildren.
I great grandson.
In. January 2022 we're having another great grandson.
In June we'll have yet another great grandson.
This world is a frightening place to as an adult.
I'm sad and fearful for our grandchildren.
🎯🎯🎯
@@earlmorton6265, I truly hear your concern. I have one granddaughter. She is my little sweetheart. But I would not wish this mess of a world on her.
We have an indoctrination program called our educational system, on purpose. All a means to an end. "The USA was created to bring about a new world order." William Milton "Bill" Cooper
Wow. He really did describe the whole thing. Goosebumps
That book should be compulsory reading for first year HS students, particularly in the US.
I’d like to agree, except he was correct about the “dumbing down” that HAS taken place, especially in the U.S.…high school students probably wouldn’t understand it, IF they could read it…
Unfortunately that wouldn't work
We're in a catch-22 because of the situation, school aren't good and that would hinder trying people to teach this, and a school sucks, people don't want to learn from them
Being a high school student, this is a book I would be more than interested in reading, it could at the very least be a good read to make us think and at best something that can help us future generations completely rethink and restructure our society, government, etc.
@@kvr22_ Then you are already aware of the importance of all books! I believe you would be interested in reading it. Problem is, not as many people as you think would. All good writing deserves to be shared, but it helps to be pointed in the right direction. And all good writers serve their craft best when they succeed in inspiring others to participate in their own form of creativity, actively or passively. There have been so many richly talented writers, but he was one of my favourites, for many reasons. Dr. Sagan, with his 4 degrees, was as unassuming as he was amusing! 🙂
…and then one day, he was called upon to give his tired, but still intellectually creative, atoms back up to the collective of what is our Universe.
My father was a fan of Carl Sagan and incidentally he passed away in 2021. A quote by Sagan was read during his memorial service.
Which quote
Lol alan i got notification of your comment but it's not showing here unfortunately. Why would they block a comment?
I also lost mom in 2021. God bless your father.
>>A quote by Sagan was read during his memorial service.
Neat
He was a genius, such as his Cosmos series.
We do miss his mind and intellect. He was 62 when he passed, I was 51, now I am fortunate to be 77, I wish he was 88 now.
A genius ? Obviously the bar is set low these days. Just Like the word hero .
Hi Raymond your not fortunate to be the age you are you are blessed! That man might have been very smart yet so very foolish to not believe and almighty God! The Lord took him early didn't he! I hope and pray that you have accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior! I'm 51 years old now and my name is Michelle and I would love to pray with you or just even talk to you if you would like? Just post me back. John 3:16 Says It All!
@@michellecongdon6220 so what your saying is people who live long are blessed?
Like do we really have to bring up the Almighty? Not all of us were born into Church or live the same way.
Let the deceased man get some "media" hype
He was a genius, but he didn't realize this "everybody is special" crap got us people that reject science, holding their opinion higher than the factual evidence.
I am 52 now. Carl Sagan is my hero.
We need you now more than ever Carl.
"In science, it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." - Carl Sagan
So we can circumvent the politics by re-register as no party voters and no party candidates.
His degrees are worthless.
We can circumvent criminal lawyers with federal licensing of lawyers without the BAR ASSOCIATION. then they can't reduce their own felonies to a misdemeanor and continue to practice law.
We can reduce Healthcare costs by telling every doctor to treat every patient without designating a "specialist " for an extra charge.
Carl just not have studied religion much....
Change never happen? Wasn't it happening the entire summer with business burned down and statues pulled down. Every person said I was wrong, but now I am "woke". Every four years, we change political party. Isn't that change. We voted for one party, then realize they were wrong, then we go the other way.
When was the last time scientist admitted the origin of life on this planet is completely impossible. Having life travel to us from another life bearing planet is practically impossible as well. I am still waiting for scientist to say they were wrong when they said COVID can never come from a lab.
@@JoelMcLaughlin Religion is based on faith. A rejection of faith is heresy.
@@briangeiger9307 scientists such as the head of the Wuhan lab came out days after the outbreak saying it could've been/most likely been a viral leak due to mismanagement of funds. It wasn't the scientists covering up a story... the outbreak and its handling by rich folk and rich politicians, supports sagans theory.
nobody could say the word 'billions' like good ol' Dr. Carl
I remember being in my teens in my living room listening on a small transistor radio to Carl talk and just being mesmerized by the way he made space sound so intriguing.
Billions in billions
The antithesis of Trump's billions.
Wait! The Trumpist idiots would say he couldn't call himself Dr Sagan because he's not a medic.
I think McDonald's was about to launch an advertising campaign using Carl Sagan to proclaim that there were billions and billions served
“The Dumbdemic” is gonna be our ruin.
Yep. Dunning-Kruger looked at Covid and said "Hold my beer."
Right, but most mofo's who are dumb as dogshit think they are smart. Like Joe Roegen said if they came out with a test, something like a pregnancy's test for dumb people, people would have boxes stacked to the roofs of their apartments angrily denying the fact that the test... never lies.
The problem is that when you take those people in stack them in two separate groups.. Stupid gets louder.... and louder.... and looooouder!
It's a bit exaggerated by Sagan. He may be smart, but he's no god. Though he probably wouldn't want to see our current TikTok videos. That said, I can find many intelligent thought out videos on UA-cam, I'm a watcher of many of them. Things like UA-cam actually provide a platform for these things to exist which aren't financially feasible to exist on network or even cable tv (look what happened to the discovery channel and history channel). There's more opportunities than ever for smart people to learn new things, and many of them do.
But we do have some serious demographic problems in that the lower IQ people are vastly out reproducing higher IQ people. We are already starting to see labor shortages because Americans just aren't skilled or smart enough to fill many jobs. The labor shortages will become catastrophic in 30 years I predict, with you unable to get any quality medical care or have competent engineers to even build buildings and bridges (though computers can largely solve this problem).
That said, the problem isn't insurmountable. I do believe a small skilled set of intelligent people can lead a nation of largely useless unskilled laborers, the problem will be keeping the unemployed happy so they don't rebel.
Idiocracy is the name.
Truely a message the world desperately needs to hear and actualize.
When a YT person recognizes that race should include everyone on this earth not just one 👍🏽
Carl Sagan has been dead for decades dude. He was a good man.
What does that even mean? Race should include races? Are you talking about the "lack of diversity" in Star Wars when it comes to the actors who played human characters in that movie? The actors who played those roles were very much representative of the US population at that time (and all time prior). This was a movie made in the 1970s, and probably dreamed up by Lucas in the 1950s. It's a movie made in the USA for a US audience and thus had a US cast. Would actually be quite bizarre if it was anything else. The other 190+ countries in the world can make their own movies for their own audiences, and they do, and surely a lot of their local population is cast in their movies too.
@@TRex-dd4ze no, the US population was diverse then, actors however were not.
@@jaychip1 There are more than white people in Star Wars. And the US population in the 1950s as well in the 1800s and 1700s etc was 85 to 90% white buddy. The remainder % almost all black people. And in many towns and cities we're talking close to 100% white. It's stats and facts. In the 1970s it was being changed by the government but still very similar numbers. So Star Wars is representative of the US. Not sure if Carl Sagan, being Jewish, identifies more as Jewish or as more white in the Anglo tradition of most Americans or not. But either way Star Wars was representative of the US population and is representative of American people.
If Carl Sagan were alive today, the Trump cult would call for his imprisonment.
If Carl Sagan were alive today, none of the Trump followers would have any idea who he is.
Actually, if he were alive today, he’d be trying to claw his way out of the casket.
They chanted "lock up Fauci" at the mass infection events.
@@jakeplourde 😁 zombie Sagan might not be a great idea. . .
@@philscott7949 He funded the Wuhan lab and then lied to congress about it. He's knowingly lied about all kinds of things throughout the pandemic from masks, to the possibility of a lab leak, to his involvement with social media censorship. I'm pretty sure several of those instances count as perjury, criminal negligence or malfeasance. Seems like a good candidate for legal action wouldn't you agree?
Here’s some unsolicited advice. Read every Sagan book! You will be better for it.
Couldn't you tell something was wrong with Carl Sagan? ....oh, ya he was to smart for this over-populated planet of nincompoops.
Demon haunted world should be taught in schools, especially the techniques to develop a baloney detection kit.
Definitely unsolicited advice
yep and while your at , read the CLASSICS as well
@@incrediblestepsProd sorry I never learned how to read
Thanks finally MSNBC for being honest of what an intellect says! Please more of this!
My religious denomination is unapologetically "Sagan".
I passionately watched "Cosmos" as a teenager and I recall my dad once commenting , "You are even starting to sound like him." Sagan inspired my choice of college courses. He was a HUGE influence on my life.
Same here! I went into theoretical physics because of Sagan.
Well done...there are few people who deserve the status of being the epitome of greatness.
He had a beautiful mind.
Then: I'll believe it when I see it
Now: I'll see it when I believe it
Ill see it if I agree with it
Great comments, both.
Sagan was a genius
Probably, but not very scholarly really. He came up with little original theories and basically wrote watered-down science books for the hoi polloi that any middling high school science teacher could. As soon as I got into real scholarship, I realized that Sagan was good for Junior High students (when I read all of his books after he had died), but hardly a true intellectual. He did publish in actual academic journals, but often with co-researchers (who did more of the work usually) and nothing very original.
Muttley think he summed it up when speaking in that Carson interview on Star Wars where diversity is lacking and the few are privileged.
An a stable Genius ! unlike the Moron who occupied the Oval Office and claimed he was a stable Genius and NOT even close .
Love Muttley 😘🐶 that dog in Star Wars should have gotten a medal! 😆
@@dHolbach77 Dude, he wrote almost 700 publications in scientific journals and was one of the foremost experts on Venus well before he became famous. The US government literally chose him as an undergraduate student to calculate the dust cloud formation from a nuclear bomb detonation on the moon for a top secret report that wasn't declassified until decades later. Pretending like he is some pop science celebrity is downright insulting.
Neil Degrasse Tyson or Michio Kaku are pop sci figures that have like less than 10 publications and the majority are just their "watered down" high school physics as you would put it. Carl has literally hundreds of publications in scientific journals and was often spot on with his speculation, such as with Quasars and his accurate prediction of the atmosphere of Venus. They aren't even remotely comparable, Carl was an actual scientist well before his career in the public eye.
By the way, spamming your same comment on every single post here is just pathetic.
“Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what is true.” Wow
Justice for Chewie! Sagan is dearly missed
He got his medal in Ep 9
@@Jonadiaz07 I'm sorry; but they only made 6 Star Wars movies and a couple of TV series. No holiday specials and no sequel movies exist. :-D
@@mattdavis9601 In Filoni we trust, somedays I wish we had the MIB device so we could un see them but at least the wookie got his 🥇
I prefer the original explanation that Chewbacca's culture had a taboo against medals and that letting him shout in an otherwise silent ceremony was a way of honoring his culture.
But yeah, Sagan was cool. Go back and look at his interviews from the late sixties. And also note that Joni Mitchell was a fan back then. The lyrics to "Woodstock" were inspired by "an astrophysicist" she saw on television.
@@mattdavis9601 Well, there was the one BAD Star Wars Wookie Holiday Special with Art Carney. Han Solo looked like he was stoned in it. 😂
Celebration of ignorance is so true I miss the days when if you did something stupid you felt shame and kept it to yourself. Now people post every dumb thing they do online with no shame at all. It’s embarrassing how stupid people are and they seem proud of it.
The election of a certain president says it all.
Bogtrotter
No one believes
That
Fool is the "president".
Apparently it all revolves around how many "likes" you get ...or something......beats me.🙄
@@godfearingheathen you mean Biden?
Right on,
"human chauvinism", "celebration of ignorance"- thank you Carl.
I identify as a human and I celebrate man's supremacy. Almost every other animal is at the same state of existence they were at billions and billions of years ago.
I treasure mankind. The world is an empty place, intellectually, otherwise.
@@MrJoeybabe25 The state of a human mind to live and to have something more will only ceased to exist when the human race chooses its path. And that's no joke, we bout to be living in one of them post worlds were there's just chaos and wartorn city's
Identify as a black Asian attack helicopter
if you are going to comment on a Carl Sagan video, at least have even a small bit of knowledge of what you are talking about. If you go back a billion years, earth has progressed from single celled organisms, sea creatures, plants, reptiles, dinosaurs, mammals, birds, primates, and within the last 4-5 million years what could be considered modern humans. Celebration of ignorance? Exhibit A above.
@@iowamandolinanddobro7376 Furthermore, I think octopuses are smarter and better adapted to their environment than we humans. They use ink and disguise to escape their predators. We have to run and hide from very scientifically advanced bullets, and we move around by starting billions of extremely hot little explosions, burning the remains of dead species, filling the air with poison particles. Some think that a god gave us all this speed and power. She know we like power. She knows we're too immature to handle true power. But she lets us run amok anyway. Enjoy your plastic infused air and water. Enjoy your hearty belittling and subjugation of all species and all persons you disagree with. I'm sure you have YOUR God's blessings.
I clicked for Carl Sagan, got Brian Williams. Shouldn't have ignored the MSNBC logo ...
It's ironic that he's describing the very media that's reporting on him.
And look at the first clip used to 'express' Carl Sagan.
Arguably his most 'silly & fun' example of his thoughts.
Why not show a clip from 'Pale Blue Dot'? No offense to Johnny, but... he was merely a well-paid comedian and not much of anything else, I'm afraid.
My thoughts exactly as I was watching lol.
How could he not & be truthful!😊
It's amusing that you don't realize MSNBC *isn't* the media Sagan was speaking about but rather it's rightwing propaganda media that he was foreseeing; aka Fox, Newsmax and OAN, just to name a few.
@@Brendan-Black incorrect, he means all.
Sagan had the gift of being able to explain difficult scientific concepts in a way that simple-minded folks such as myself could actually comprehend. He wasn't just brilliant; he could effectively communicate the ideas from his brilliant mind to teach others.
Explaining ANYthing to simple-minded folks WOULD be perceived BY the simple-minded as "brilliant". But taking time & effort to verify the info, one comes to recognize the absence of logic and actual knowledge.
TESLA discussed "gravity", and the lack thereof ... Brilliantly.
@@anothercomment3451
Are you saying Carl Sagan wasn't a real genius and just bamboozled those that would listen? What did he ever say that was wrong?
@@liman42 Uh .... the whole concept of reaching outer space & the glober b.s.? Just look at 2 things: Pics of old blasts from the 60s, and the official 'curve' chart data. The blast area alone is 125 miles wide, i have read - so, where is the 9,666 bending of the horizontal horizon.
Those pics show the entire photo of flat horizon, on each side of the blast plume - so, I do not see ANY curve, let alone about 20,000 ft.
I am only being logical, not adversarial.
Then, consider the suez canal - constructed level flat....but the 100 continuous miles of construction has no 6,666' bend that i know of.
Hey...Do pilots nose-down every few minutes?
IF i could see the evidence, I would cheer loudly!!
@Another Comment
Oh, and altitude above the earth an airplane flies needs to be consistent so yes, as you travel the altitude, to be constant, has to be corrected otherwise the plane would continue to climb until it reached it's structural limits. That's what autopilot does. It makes automatic corrections for course and altitude. That's what a pilot would have to do if autopilot wasn't engaged although there are other factors involved.
" For every 60 nautical miles the airplane flies in a straight line, it has to pitch down 1 degree. But since pilots have to make constant adjustments to keep the plane leveled and maintain altitude, and since 1 small degree over 60 miles is impossible for a human being to notice, those adjustments come out as noise."
@@liman42 You must be consulting WikiPeddleCrap.
At 500 mph, airPLANES would nose-down every 3 minutes. Pilots DO know this. AirPLANE windows are fisheye - to make the curve.
Do combustible engines work in a vacuum?
Hey, i have done my homework SINCE Disney's "magic". No delay when Nixon spoke to "the moon" guys ... not back then. I'd think a.i. or something altered that - similar to that Mandella Effect stuff.
It is called Sea LEVEL for a reason. (to mock the gullible and comatose eyeballs)
Did ya know the astronots are freemasons? Ever nitice satanic missiin patch symbols?
Ever wonder y PLANEts are named for pagan gods?
(words do matter ... as in Uranus, Dark matter Black holes and that poop shaped stuff nasa animated for folks. Ever hear of Mr.Marble? Mocking folks! C'MON now! 😆)
"...when the people have lost the ability to set their own agenda..." is what stood out the most to me. I think this explains why people so often vote against their own self-interest, and seem to do a complete 180 on their values overnight. They don't have their own ideals that they stick to; they just go with what the talking heads on tv say.
Instead of picking Star Wars apart look to the positive. It was innovative. What I thought when I saw E.T. was how easily this space creature was accepted and loved while fellow human beings of another race were not. Just a bunch of phoney baloney.
@@SusanKay- such an ignorant comment. You are precisely the kind of simple minded person the OP is talking about... you form all your opinions from talking heads, in your case it seems it’s probably late night “comedians” and SNL.
Carl Sagan was speaking of modern day Democrats. How apropos that this be aired on MSNBC.
And Issac Asimov said; "When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent". So many great minds ignored. Shameful.
That's been going on since the birth of white America. Nothing changes. Humans are destructive selfish beings. Selfish destruction is stupidity.
@K Babylon you assume I'm uneducated in history and not well traveled. Your assumptions are wrong. Try again.
It's actually about knowledgeably questioning authority
'slide without noticing'
@@MsRebel Do you really think it has only to do with "white America"? No, you try again, and perhaps leave out your obvious racial prejudice, as it brings nothing positive to the discussion. If you do, you might be taken seriously by an educated person, which, for some reason, you fancy yourself to be, apparently.
@@bretz9276 questioning authority, however, is a strong libertarian trait, and the democrats are kind of on the opposite side of that spectrum...
Sagan's quotes literally gave me chills from how accurately he described what has happened to us 25 yrs. ago. WOW!
He basically described the Republicans of today, especially those Trumpturds!
@@grandwonder5858 he didn't know they would form a huge, ignorant kkkult. And cults never end well. 🤡
@@grandwonder5858 TDS much?
@@spongedebfatpants1308 No more so than is warranted by the truth.
@@grandwonder5858 I didn't realize the road to idiocracy was republican. I guess it depends upon whether you think a group of insulated elitists can find more useful truth than the individual. I rather prefer the free thinker.
When people ask, "If you could have dinner with three people, living or dead, who would they be?" Carl Sagan always has a seat at my table.
Carl Sagan, Stephen Fry and Winston Churchill for me.
Sagan, Buddha and Russell for me.
@@stevelind393 if I could call only one Greek, it would be Seneca.
Carl Sagan, Michio Kaku and Neil deGrasse Tyson .... My mind would probably be too blown to eat .....
That's not easy - Carl Sagan, Joseph Campbell, John Lennon.
I also thought of Richard Feynman, Stephan Hawking, Jacques Cousteau, Jane Goodall, Alan Watts, Terence Mckenna, Carlos Casteneda, Neil Armstrong, Donald Knuth, Dalai Lama... Many more fascinating people.
Thank you for posting
Man, did he ever nail nearly exactly how things would be in our world at this time. His prescience was genius level and beyond.
All you have to do to be so "prescient" is to read history.
@@Dyrnwyn You don't even have to do that.
If you basically cynically assume that people will do the easiest, cheapest, and laziest thing, you're going to be right 9 times out of 10.
@@youtubesuresuckscock That seems like it would have to be true, once you are able to reach so many people so cheaply. "The lowest COMMON denominator" is what will get the most hits. Therefore is is purposely spread more ( to carry along the message from the commercial sponsor) , and infects more brains.
@@Dyrnwyn Or live in the 80's and 90's and see it happen. It's not that Sagan was so smart, but that the people in general are dense blind morons.
But not nearly as well is what Nietzsche predicted would happen when humanity declared God is dead.
“when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues;”
Yep, in the meanwhile, critical thinking isn't taught in schools, how to deal with media and distinguish between fact and fiction and how to check sources is barely taught in some schools in some countries, and English is finally taught to younger children, when in the 80's it was clear that this was an absolute necessity if we didn't want to find ourselves in a digital idiocracy with digitally handicapped idiots trying to lead a country in an era they know nothing about. We're only 40 years behind. Our leaders should have been brought up with all of that, yet they can't even formulate an argument without stacking a billion fallacies in a sentence and leaving out all the facts.
Wait till AI surpasses human level intelligence. Humans won't stand a chance.
@@stylis666 Excellent point, our schools teach the English language as grammar, it should be vocabulary, etymology, the use and misuse of language, rhetoric as a skill. Our thought processes are shaped by our language ability.
Yes it is the " FORCE " is there it is all around us we just cant see in that spectrum. The Eye sees ALL
@@wthomas7955 Well..Automation and AI are used in so many sectors like manufacturing plants.. That's why more and more people go jobless.. Losing a chance to stand..it is already happening now..
Carl Sagan, A Brilliant man. 👍🏽😊
@@jeandukate1799 so where did he get his information from? If you cant answer that then youre the parrot, repeating what the next dumb down doubter said.. 🤔
@@jeandukate1799 You have no idea who Carl Sagan was, do you?
@@LifesLessons100 😂😂😂 he just told you in his post so you go and ask again??😂😂😂
@@billybarnes1763 sure do and i'll ask again if i didnt see or hear it.. Thank you! 😭 that's what people do when they want to know. Welcome to earth ❤
@@jeandukate1799 Thinking for themselves ? So people who read the bible and then quote it over and over again are fools ?
Carl sounds like Kermit the Frog's father.