Ronnie Landau: Unpacking Allegations, Was Jung Antisemitic?
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2024
- How do we interpret and evaluate C.G. Jung's complex legacy in light of his interactions with Jewish individuals and the allegations of antisemitism, considering the nuanced historical context in which he lived and worked?
Assessing Jung's possible antisemitism is complex and requires a nuanced understanding of his historical context and personal relationships. His involvement in psychoanalytic societies during the Nazi era has led to accusations of antisemitism, yet his actions and writings suggest an intimate, dynamic, and protective relationship with Jewish colleagues and theories. Jung tried to shield Jewish analysts by leveraging his position, indicating his efforts to mitigate the impacts of Nazi policies on his Jewish colleagues. His correspondence and professional interactions with Jewish individuals, including Freud, show admiration, critique, and misunderstanding, reflecting the complicated dynamics of early psychoanalytic circles. Critics and supporters of Jung need to consider the evolution of his views over time, acknowledging both problematic aspects of his work and his contributions to psychoanalytic thought that transcended racial and ethnic boundaries.
Prepare to discover…who Carl Jung was, his relationships with Jewish individuals and communities, and the controversy surrounding allegations of antisemitism in his work and personal beliefs; when Jung's significant interactions with the Nazi party lead others to question his allegiances; how Jung's theories, were influenced by and, in turn, influenced Jewish scholars, demonstrating a complex interplay between Jungian psychology and Jewish thought; what specific allegations of antisemitism have been made against Jung, the evidence for and against these claims, and the broader implications of his work within the context of 20th-century antisemitic movements; where Jung stood in relation to the Nazi regime and antisemitism, including his professional and personal actions that have been scrutinized for either complicity or opposition to antisemitic policies; whether Jung's interactions and theoretical disagreements with Sigmund Freud, as well as his comments on Jewish psychology, can be considered antisemitic or reflective of the era's complex cultural and scientific dialogues; which aspects of Jewish mysticism and philosophical thought, particularly Kabbalah and Hasidism; why the narrative surrounding Jung's work, his alleged antisemitism, and his relationship with Jewish intellectuals remains a subject of intense debate, reflecting the challenges of disentangling a historical figure's legacy from the socio-political context of their time…and so much more.
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This was AMAZING but I have to say Joseph won me when he brought in the perspective about Freud (because I was thinking those same things). He said it wonderfully.
Joseph, thank you for your take, starting at 34:24
The Great Mystery of all that is... The Great Mystery does not need to be solved; it needs to be explored. I think Jung was an explorer. Personally, I do not think Jung's life or works indicate anti anything. Outstanding broadcast! Thank you.
Wonderful episode! ❤
Thank you ! Very informative and timely.
Joseph's perspectives really brought life into this conversation for me - so astute and such a deeply empathetic thinker, thank you Joseph, you teach me so much.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you.
Hi all...I believe I am a pretty self aware human and am living in a life riddled with what seems the endless complexities of existing and living in this day and age of constant change...and trying to make some sense of it.
To the best of my ability. Living in interesting times for sure.
I felt a need to comment on Ronnie's response to Deborah's question @ 55:32 and she starts questioning and wanting to explore 'deeper layers' of our individual and collective psyche.
I came across a word this week that has become a very important word that may have some prudence both individually and collectively in this time and perhaps all times of human existence.
*domicide*
I feel this to be a word that needs time to sink in both individually and collectively...and to be discussed with much care.
I will cite the Collins Dictionary definition...the destruction of dwelling places, rendering an area uninhabitable.
I am thinking this is playing a big part presently because there are words that describe the after effects.
refugees
exiles
perhaps orphans too.
I have even seen it used as in the destruction of homes and other places one might consider 'home'.
I am also aware there is a difference between leaving for somewhere that has presented an opportunity for growth and one where one is forced to leave because of...
ex. destruction war or a fire in one's dwelling place plus a myriad of other reasons.
I also truly resonated with what Joseph was trying to articulate about Jung writing and discussing... bravely trying to make sense of understanding individual and collective psyche(s)...using the best ways and words he could at the time. Like a pioneer of sorts.
So it is, in the spirit of pioneering...generally applying grace in thoughts and discussions feels very important now.
I am not a Jungian analyst but from listening to your conversations I find a similar kinship in the way I was
'found' by him when having a need to understand myself.
I am thinking there may be some congruence to 'domicide' in your episode concerning loss of soul.
Many thanks to you all for thoughtfully sharing and discussing well the delicate issues.
Thank you Joseph, I agree with everything you said
Today there is HUGE difference between being anti-semitic and anti-Zionist, though the current government in Israel doesn't want people to understand this. What would Jung say?
Collective inferiority - very central to today's support for the so called "strong man" and autocratic leaders. Very thoughtful and timely discussion. Thank you.
I have a great respect for jewish religion and did study it together with the tarot, but it has a collective egocentric aspect, which does manifest for some on the individual level. If I am right, discernment (call it intelligence), is regarded as a foremost quality, which imo should have been compensated by modesty, the central trait of the chinese people. By scripturally having declared themselves to be the chosen race they might have made themselves historically into a target. Put this in the circumstance that the german people suffered from a collective inferiority complex after WW1, and an explosive situation was created. I think the Germans had a good reason for grievance, but their reaction was totally overdone. To absolve myself from any suggestion of antisemitism, I like to tell that my favourite human being is the jewish gentleman Richard Wolff.
What was the book that talked about Jung working for Dulles?
The loaf of bread at the end😂❤
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I mean, it's not hard to become antisemitic, it's very easy to fall for that mind trap for some various not fully known reasons.
Our minds are never free even if you grow up to become an incarnation of Buddha.
Asians too no? Lol or just in general 😅
Want to study Jung but the racism that I have heard about keeps me from doing that
Let yourself be the judge of it! no need to bar yourself from information you havent even digested yet.
Jung was not anti semetic