Marshall Studio Vintage VS Studio Classic

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  • @thephotoyak
    @thephotoyak 5 років тому +185

    Best amp demos on UA-cam man.

  • @mountainpeakcloud8442
    @mountainpeakcloud8442 8 місяців тому +20

    Perfect comparision! The plexi sounds more open, and the 800 more compressed.

  • @Da_Xman
    @Da_Xman 2 роки тому +31

    THIS IS THE WAY DEMOS SHOULD BE DONE (THANKS LOADS)!!! In this demo, both of these terrific amps sound so similar that (very most probably) it might be practically impossible to tell the difference in a live gig situation. You could tell the difference if it was your amp with you playing but (in the audience?) it would be splitting very fine hairs. And, the 5 watt option is nice, but it's still too loud/powerful for playing use in any kind of bedroom/apartment situations without a pedal or an attenuator. The larger transformers in higher powered amps do add more tonal "chunk" but, after 18 watts, there's only more power to cut through the crowd and fill the room, yet there's little actual volume increase (power and volume not being the same thing). Marshall should have started producing these 20 watt amps in the late 70s or early 80s. They would have sold loads of them and still sold loads of their 50 and 100 watt (plus) models as well. AGAIN, THIS IS HOW UA-cam COMPARISONS SHOULD BE DONE! THANKS MUCHO!
    ⚡👍🥴👍⚡

  • @anonanon5791
    @anonanon5791 4 роки тому +81

    Damn, must be cool having 3 arms.

  • @philsmith3019
    @philsmith3019 4 роки тому +66

    My vote goes to the "Vintage".

  • @tomaspavelka6469
    @tomaspavelka6469 5 років тому +53

    Both sound good...I like the Vintage a little bit more, sounds like an old classic... The 800 has more bass and a little more treble... sounds more modern

    • @underpressureman
      @underpressureman 5 років тому +1

      Totally!!! My thoughts as well!

    • @jessicawalden6072
      @jessicawalden6072 4 роки тому +4

      Turn the treble off on the JCM and i it will sounds like a Plexi !

    • @markn4526
      @markn4526 4 роки тому +3

      The Classic has an emptiness in the midrange compared to the Vintage. Not a bad thing...I'm just sayin'.

  • @YouTalkTv
    @YouTalkTv 4 роки тому +44

    Awesome test!! you can tell right away what the nuances are! Congrats!

  • @sgmarshall3
    @sgmarshall3 5 років тому +28

    I’m surprised. I even liked the JCM800 more for cleans. Both sound good though. Very nice demo

  • @trulsolsen683
    @trulsolsen683 3 роки тому +25

    The Classic looks to be a better amp in a lot of ways. More gain, way more versatile/usable tone stack, easier controls. But that Vintage just sounds better imo

    • @craigpoole2602
      @craigpoole2602 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah it's got that Marshall mid honk the other seems to be missing. Both are nice...but I'm a non-master volume guy to the core.

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t Місяць тому

      ​@@craigpoole2602 Well the SV20 has a 5 Watt setting, which is still quite loud. I'm going for a Chinese handwired clone of a 1987x with PPIMV and FX loop. It's half the price to replace power tubes and it breaks up earlier so for a high gain PLexi fan the 1987x seems like a superior choice. Same price as an SV20h. But I like the handwired ones, I actually stand a chance in repairing that myself without having to go to one of three amp techs in the entire country....

  • @wednesdaystore4774
    @wednesdaystore4774 5 років тому +247

    they sound at lot more similar than I imagined they would!

    • @2204JCM
      @2204JCM 4 роки тому +12

      That’s because of the limitations of modern recording equipment.
      Seriously

    • @fuzzshifter
      @fuzzshifter 4 роки тому +6

      @@2204JCM Like using the same cabinet for both, instead of greenbacks for the Vintage, and 1275s for the Classic?

    • @patricksommer3971
      @patricksommer3971 4 роки тому +18

      @@2204JCM I don't think so...

    • @jazztom86
      @jazztom86 4 роки тому +9

      I was surprised too. I tried both through the same cabinet and the difference was huge. But I also didn't try to get the same sound out of both. In the end I bought the SV20H.

    • @dickdastardly2560
      @dickdastardly2560 4 роки тому +4

      @@jazztom86 By any chance did you test the Marshall DSL20HR? For $500 buck I'm wondering if the extra $800 for SV20H is worth it.

  • @rustycockering9925
    @rustycockering9925 4 роки тому +36

    No plexi or 800 demo is complete without an "all knobs on 10" sample.

    • @stanislavmigra
      @stanislavmigra 4 роки тому +2

      Done that week ago with JT45, my ears are still ringing ... but boy oh boy, is that experience worth it ...

    • @oe542
      @oe542 4 роки тому

      stanislavmigra had a Bluesbreaker that I bought new in 98 I think... it never left my bedroom and I don’t think it ever got past 3.
      I sold it a couple years ago and now wish I wouldn’t have. Even though I’ll never use it, it was something I bought new and looked so gorgeous and it’s just too cool to let go. But I did anyway. Oh well. I think I’m going to get one of these STV20’s or whatever they’re called. I
      Just recently discovered them.

  • @thegimpsometimes5937
    @thegimpsometimes5937 3 роки тому +16

    I love the sag from the plexi. I used to play through 800’s when I was younger and loved them but it really seems like you get more actual tube tone out of a plexi. Can’t wait to get one

  • @phantasmagora6542
    @phantasmagora6542 4 роки тому +14

    The SV is more balanced, cutting through a mix like nobody's business while leaving plenty of room for low frequencies. SC sounds fuller and can shell out more gain making it great for heavy tones, but sounds more compressed.
    I think the SV wins for tones and the SC for practicality.

  • @deanathan
    @deanathan 5 років тому +20

    THE DRUUUUGS BEGIN TO PEEAAK!!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @giuseppemussi8814
    @giuseppemussi8814 10 місяців тому +2

    Cleans from SV are unexpected! SC is warmer. How can I choose?!?!?
    Is there anyone who can help me if would have any sense using "MARSHALL 1936GD7-H Purple/Black - Limited Edition" as a cabinet for the SC?
    Greenback and "only" 25Wx2 are maybe better?

  • @mariorossi1802
    @mariorossi1802 3 роки тому +9

    The Plexi sounds much warmer and vintage, the JCM sounds extremely wild and metal! May I have both? 😁

  • @KM-302
    @KM-302 4 роки тому +76

    Both great sounding amps but is it just me that thinks the 800 looks wrong as a mini head whereas the plexi is perfectly scaled down in size?

    • @DannyMcGlone
      @DannyMcGlone 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed - proportions of side panels (as viewed from front) vs the rest of the front panel are not to scale on the 800.

    • @brentgilbert4208
      @brentgilbert4208 3 роки тому +1

      I didn’t notice that until you pointed it out. But then, definitely.

    • @CrystalRecords
      @CrystalRecords 3 роки тому +1

      I agree
      Appearance wise the plexi is definitely the best

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t Місяць тому

      Because JCM800 was always big while Plexi came in all sorts of sizes, the 18 W which basically was an SV20h, or the 1987x 50 W Plexi, which is a little smaller than the 100 W. So Plexis have always come in different sizes with panels staying about the same the proportions changed. I think only with the solid state MG series in the 90s they began making modern style Marshalls with smaller heads, though some of those also had smaller panels since an SS amp is pretty flexible you can pretty much size it what you want while a tube amp has a minimum size.

  • @mike8610
    @mike8610 3 роки тому +8

    Now this is a gear demo. Skip the bs and let's hear it. Well done. Thanks.

  • @yeauld
    @yeauld 4 роки тому +15

    If there is someone in youtube that can make a proper demo of the Marshall Studio Vintage vs The Origin 20 is you man, please do it, please do it, is such a needed comparison video !!!

    • @MrOzgooner
      @MrOzgooner 4 роки тому +5

      dont waste your money on the origin..its quite average

    • @joshmuz9018
      @joshmuz9018 3 роки тому +2

      Elmo did ond

    • @yeauld
      @yeauld 3 роки тому +1

      @@joshmuz9018 Thanks for the info Josh, I know Elmo channel he does pretty good videos Im gonna check it out
      Cheers !!!

  • @MattWhatsGoinOn
    @MattWhatsGoinOn 4 роки тому +26

    To me, where they don't sound real close, the Vintage seems more clear and less fizzy.

  • @Mik870
    @Mik870 3 роки тому +7

    I’m surprised to find that I prefer the studio vintage! It sounds warmer to my ears

  • @ghostinthesnow11
    @ghostinthesnow11 3 роки тому +2

    1:02 the drugs began to peak....

  • @timmytVA
    @timmytVA 3 роки тому +5

    My take - Across all the different tones, the Plexi is a bit beefier, thicker sounding. The 800 does the crystal clean thing better than the Plexi. The Plexi cleans always have bit more girth to them. The 800 does a reasonable facsimile of the Plexi sound. The reverse is not true. If you need more flexibility and/or a master volume = 800. If you need that classic rock and roll tone above all else, and you can deal with volume = Plexi.

  • @markn4526
    @markn4526 3 роки тому +8

    Nice comparison. Both amps sounds great. The Vintage has more chime than the Classic which is especially noticeable when played clean. The Classic may be more versatile because it has a master volume.

  • @jgl2222
    @jgl2222 5 років тому +9

    The vintage sounds better but they both sound great. It really is all about what and how you play.

  • @christophersmart8067
    @christophersmart8067 3 роки тому +7

    Silverstein riff was on point

  • @NYC_Geology
    @NYC_Geology 5 років тому +11

    Silverstein?! Nice! Your reviews always appeal to the closet emo kid in me.
    Side note, are either of these okay for an apartment?

    • @TobysGuitarGearDemos
      @TobysGuitarGearDemos  5 років тому +7

      JCM800 is good for apartment in the 5W mode. JMP needs an attenuator since it's non master volume. I have a Harley Benton attenuator that can pull it fully down and doesn't affect the tone much 👍

    • @NYC_Geology
      @NYC_Geology 5 років тому +1

      @@TobysGuitarGearDemos thanks for the recommendation!

    • @JohnPArgueta
      @JohnPArgueta 4 роки тому +1

      @Toby's Guitar Gear Demos Argh...I was about to scoop up a Vintage for my home office buy no master means.... #loudAF
      Thanks for pointing that out. 🤘🏼

  • @alanwake7143
    @alanwake7143 4 роки тому +9

    New Tool riffs. Cool

  • @KahnuevsKrake
    @KahnuevsKrake 2 місяці тому +1

    The Plexi is more open and more "classic rock" sounding than the JCM, but as far as I'm aware that's all in the fact it doesn't have a master volume, which sadly limits home use.
    I have the SC20 and it's amazing! I found that rolling the treble back a little bit, boosting the mids and gets you that little bit closer to the plexi tones. not quite the same, but great to my ears.

  • @DelReiRock
    @DelReiRock 3 роки тому +5

    Very interesting... is it just me or the EQ on the SV is almost unnoticeable...?

    • @BramEngelenMusic
      @BramEngelenMusic 3 роки тому +2

      So exactly like a full-sized Plexi: the EQ doesn't do all that much on these circuits, the amp just has a certain tone by default and to my ears the EQ only slightly affects the playing feel 😉

  • @loneryouth
    @loneryouth 2 роки тому +3

    For "My Heroin" alone i had to like it, despite the fact that both sounded awesome. Very good video, ordered a SC20 and boy am i excited :D

  • @Thecoolman1
    @Thecoolman1 3 роки тому +11

    Both are incredible amps, and they both sound really similar! To me the studio vintage looks waaaay better, and the volume problem can really be solved with a good attentuator.

    • @Raj-b2q1x
      @Raj-b2q1x 8 місяців тому

      yes but a good attenuator is very costly, mine cost £930

    • @Thecoolman1
      @Thecoolman1 8 місяців тому

      @@Raj-b2q1x What attenuator do you have?

  • @DanM-ys5pz
    @DanM-ys5pz 4 місяці тому +1

    JCM sounds a bit more scooped than the Plexi. But I think I prefer the Plexi.

  • @EdwardYasko
    @EdwardYasko 4 роки тому +5

    Came for amp demo - stayed for Silverstein riff :)

  • @gualvi2032
    @gualvi2032 13 днів тому +1

    Jcm sounds a little more brighter than sv20

  • @montychristo86
    @montychristo86 5 років тому +16

    Being a high gain guy, I’d prefer the Studio Classic. The Vintage is still intriguing with the inputs it has. I’d like to actually experiment with patching pedals and other things between those inputs. I’d have to mind the impedance, of course, but I’d love to hear the results.

  • @TalleyWacker1000
    @TalleyWacker1000 3 роки тому +5

    This is a FANTASTIC demo video! Really struggling to determine if the SC20H can give me the tones I'm looking for gigging and it sounds killer! I've had the SV20H which is wonderful but want to try something new.

  • @marcogiampa283
    @marcogiampa283 4 роки тому +5

    the one thing this video is missing is both amps on 20 watt, dimed, with everything on 10

  • @Dcba964
    @Dcba964 3 роки тому +3

    Love the plexi but no master volume...cant get gain without volume...Be sure you can play loud at home ....

  • @mattperreault3518
    @mattperreault3518 6 місяців тому +2

    The drugs began to peak. A simile of joy arrives in me

    • @joeybydin439
      @joeybydin439 6 місяців тому

      What an excellent song 😍

  • @nsc217
    @nsc217 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m surprised to say I like the Classic/800 better (I only listened dirty)

  • @MrVegiita
    @MrVegiita 4 роки тому +5

    Excellent clean demo with the tele. Definitely hear the chimey Marshall cleans people love.

  • @cheesefrogsnail
    @cheesefrogsnail 4 роки тому +5

    The clean sounds with the Tele are superb! your video convinced me to order a combo SV20 for christmas...thanks!

  • @frethand101
    @frethand101 Рік тому +2

    The 800 sounds like it has just a touch more body/balls, but I would take the Plexi for it's p2p wiring, they're very basic design makes them a fav for moddin'.. Back in the mid 70's the mid to late 60's SL's were becoming the cheap/used heads all the broke young guy's like EVH, Lynch, Holmes, etc. would buy and mod for a heavier sound, they literally were just abuncha kid's tryin' to make their amp's sound better never realizing they'd completely reshape the amplifier industry.. 😂

  • @clovenwizard
    @clovenwizard 3 місяці тому +3

    Plexi is more articulate

  • @JeffCrowell11
    @JeffCrowell11 4 місяці тому +1

    Is the JCM a touch brighter and a bit more open? I would take either in a heartbeat. Nice post.

  • @georgelassier9337
    @georgelassier9337 3 роки тому +4

    this guy should be on ed sullivan turning the knobs and still playing

  • @fonso003
    @fonso003 4 роки тому +5

    I liked the Silverstein for the clean demo

  • @boogierandy7547
    @boogierandy7547 5 років тому +5

    Thank you.Best review I've seen on this amp. Or any other amp. Ever.No jibber-jabber and you ran through a variety of guitars and sounds.

  • @dochort21
    @dochort21 5 років тому +5

    I have the SV20, and I love it with my les Paul and PRS CE22, but now I need a telecaster because it sounded so good in this video!

  • @jaybroad5051
    @jaybroad5051 5 років тому +5

    Mkll sounds more clear and full sounding to me nice work

  • @grantdavis5438
    @grantdavis5438 2 роки тому +4

    That first tone on the plexi with the Strat is literally the best guitar tone I’ve ever heard

  • @shredgd5
    @shredgd5 5 років тому +6

    Now I really want a Studio Vintage!

  • @alonsoape8530
    @alonsoape8530 5 років тому +5

    Great vid once again mate!!! I would love to be able to justify buying both of them...or at least one...lol...both sound fantastic

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions 5 років тому +14

    Nice. They do not sound much different to each other. Thought the plexi sounded a bit nicer, more clarity, and mids, JCM800 had a bit too much top end fuzz distorted, but sounded great clean! Both amps did!

  • @valentinoaccorsini2530
    @valentinoaccorsini2530 3 роки тому +4

    Can't choose, the vintage for the clean, thr classic for dirty sound, both sound amazing!

  • @AMGL1989
    @AMGL1989 3 роки тому +3

    I feel the studio vintage has more of an airy tone, if that makes sense. The treble is a bit piercing. The studio classic sounds like every other modern Marshall that isn’t vintage inspired.

  • @BobCorey
    @BobCorey 6 місяців тому +1

    THE DRUUUUGS BEGIIIIIIN TO PEAAAAAK ♥️

  • @mauroleira9945
    @mauroleira9945 4 роки тому +4

    Wonderful job. You've shown the trends of both amps. Really hard to say which one we want!! Both!

  • @Fugettaboutit
    @Fugettaboutit 5 років тому +3

    Little more mid scoop and a tad more bass from JCM. A little more 'modern' if you will.

  • @arisl2370
    @arisl2370 3 роки тому +3

    The JCM 800 is more responsive to dial changes i noticed...both very similar sounding but the vintage has a slightly sweeter tone.. slightly less aggressive mids and highs

  • @matouscervenka7248
    @matouscervenka7248 3 роки тому +2

    Gain vs tone. Old story....

  • @mickl2793
    @mickl2793 4 місяці тому +1

    Both great sounding, not much in it really

  • @superflea72
    @superflea72 4 роки тому +3

    excellent comparison video Toby! I went to try out a mini jubilee today thinking that it was the amp for me, only to be disappointed...luck for me, the shop had an SC20 and the guy grabbed it for me and said I might like it. he was right, the SC 20 (combo) killed the 2525c for sound to my ears - and you could read the knobs. :)
    my next amp, I'm sure!

  • @HereandThereWeGo
    @HereandThereWeGo 4 роки тому +3

    Very similar sounds but I would be more tempted by the 800 just for the Master Volume/Gain controls being able to be dimed in at low volume. Then again there is the 5Watt mode. One of the best demos tho, really appreciated.

  • @cesar.arrano
    @cesar.arrano Рік тому +2

    Did you use a loop pedal for this video?

  • @berndkiltz
    @berndkiltz 4 роки тому +3

    Another well made Demo, you rock!

  • @leecartwright7415
    @leecartwright7415 3 роки тому +2

    yoooooou smillllllleeee, in yourrr sleeeeeeep! brings me back

  • @griffinnelsonaudiovisuals2362
    @griffinnelsonaudiovisuals2362 4 роки тому +4

    I always appreciate the New Found Glory parts of your demos

  • @fragtagninja1633
    @fragtagninja1633 4 роки тому +4

    The Plexi takes the gold, but barely.

  • @rawknotwantnot
    @rawknotwantnot 3 роки тому +4

    The best demo's of these amps I've found. 👏👏 Thank you.

  • @goobiecaro8135
    @goobiecaro8135 4 роки тому +3

    This is a great comparison demo. Own a SC20H and thinking of getting the SV20H.

  • @josephland8649
    @josephland8649 4 роки тому +2

    I recently purchased a 1985 JCM 800 2204. I'll hafta keep an eye out for a used studio vintage. 20 watts would be practical.

  • @PhilippHerget
    @PhilippHerget 2 роки тому +2

    Haven‘t heard that Silverstein intro on the clean bit in the middle for ages. Thanks for the reminder:)

  • @silentstormstudios
    @silentstormstudios 3 роки тому +3

    Great demo. To me, these two models sound so similar, you might as well just pick the one that you like the look of best. There were only a couple of examples where I noticed a discernible sonic difference. There is a bigger sonic difference in the other two models in the 20 watt lineup (the Jubilee 20 and the DSL20).

  • @maja8259
    @maja8259 4 роки тому +3

    I’ll go for SV20H, sounds more richer to me

  • @sonikku997
    @sonikku997 5 років тому +5

    Studio Vintage vs Origin next? :D

    • @lowqualityguitarvideos
      @lowqualityguitarvideos 5 років тому +1

      Hopefully the Origin demos start to realize that its not a 'all knobs at noon' kind of amp

  • @78thandSynth
    @78thandSynth 3 роки тому +3

    Ordered vintage today. Really appreciate this video.

  • @KYCDK
    @KYCDK 2 роки тому +2

    they sound similar, but the SV is more "throaty" while the SC has more clarity

  • @GarryWan666
    @GarryWan666 3 роки тому +2

    1:03 Riff is from My Heroine by Silverstein if someone wonders

  • @Shadow6212
    @Shadow6212 4 роки тому +3

    Respect for My heroine !!

  • @harryshield4335
    @harryshield4335 11 місяців тому +1

    For me the plexi just seems more alive

  • @randomguitarnote8887
    @randomguitarnote8887 5 місяців тому +1

    Plexi is just the GOAT.

  • @jeffmazzei8520
    @jeffmazzei8520 5 років тому +3

    The Vintage sounds better, more Tone less sizzle and more low end

  • @robertaugust6751
    @robertaugust6751 Рік тому +2

    Very nice demo. Well done. Nobody seems to mention just how noisy the bright input is. I need to try getting clean tones with mine but I can't imagine them not being buzzy.

  • @gadearamon
    @gadearamon 2 роки тому +3

    Gotta love the Silverstein riff to test the clean tone!

  • @roimodeste
    @roimodeste 5 років тому +3

    Both are great! studio vintage more organic ,less treble

  • @musicnasa666
    @musicnasa666 Рік тому +1

    Wanna buy the vintage one....

  • @MorGuitarz
    @MorGuitarz 4 роки тому +5

    Jeez they sound so close to each other

    • @danvan8789
      @danvan8789 3 роки тому

      basically the same amp but the 800 has an extra gain stage and a master volume.

  • @mesfigas
    @mesfigas 4 місяці тому +1

    jcm 800 sounds modern

  • @hayabusa1300100
    @hayabusa1300100 11 місяців тому +1

    They both sound absolutely amazing.. I think the Plexi had a bit more growl to my ears I don’t know why everyone speaks of an attenuators every time you mention the Marshall amps well if I buy this one I will need an attenuation of some sort .., With a boost pedal or OD in front you will all you’ll ever need even with volume rolled back ( no atten needed ) that’s what the volume on your guitar is for … For me I’d buy either one and exactly what I said I would hit it with some drive sp or ext exotic and turn this bitch up exactly what these amps our designed for I don’t want to suck my tone out with all that said this very achievable and still play loud without losing tone in an apartment or home without disturbing the neighbors as I do all the time with my PRS MT-15 and Jet City JCA22H heavily modified and use the volume on the guitar and I only use delay as I have gain for days and cleans that our pretty damn nice not fender clean but really nice on the MT-15 . These 2 Marshall’s have a nice platform setup and in this video as we all seen with no pedals just imagine hitting it ( Damn Nice as I could imagine I’ll getting one of these probably both but my first will be the JCM-800 as i play a lot VH, Randy Rhoads , Quiet Riot , Ratt and Zepplin just to name a few good luck gents be positive and make your own judgment just remember what your listening to here and know that once you add some pedals my god these amps will a bliss of happiness with cold chills running down your spine

  • @mustafaicil
    @mustafaicil 5 років тому +4

    Is it possible to use any of these as a clean pedal platform at club gig volume?

    • @TobysGuitarGearDemos
      @TobysGuitarGearDemos  5 років тому +3

      I'd say they are going to start breaking up unless you mic it 👍

    • @PainterDans
      @PainterDans 3 роки тому

      If your adding a distortion or overdrive pedal it will sound great, get the 50 watt if you want more headroom for clean.

  • @TempoDrift1480
    @TempoDrift1480 5 років тому +3

    MK is much fuller than the 800.

  • @baddistortion9935
    @baddistortion9935 4 роки тому +2

    i think the cleans were better in the JCM, but the rest the Plexi had a much fuller sound

  • @TwistedMind86Chern
    @TwistedMind86Chern 3 роки тому +2

    JCM 800 sounds thinner ,i prefer the other one. Great video by the way👌

  • @mumblegrunt
    @mumblegrunt 3 роки тому +2

    The best easy to gauge amp comparison on the Internet. Nice work.
    I have to say I prefer the classic. The 800 sounds compressed.

  • @davidschaer
    @davidschaer 3 роки тому +3

    i’m in love with that mini plexiii....🤩😻

  • @neilswan-h2z
    @neilswan-h2z 4 місяці тому +1

    800 a tad brighter ?

  • @chrismerlo1294
    @chrismerlo1294 4 роки тому +2

    Very well done. Please make the same for all amps!! Ever!! Please!! Only suggestion would be to add an ‘everything on 10’ comparison. Really nice job!

  • @backlom
    @backlom 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for keeping the descriptions up throughout