never lost all but lost some and that's down to bugs which i reported and it's the only way they get fixed anyway. but it's not long till it's stable again.
Totally agree with how tedious it is to sell cargo. Just let me off load into the cargo deck on arrival! Its absurd that we have to sell, undock, unload, redock, buy, and then load.
You would think there would be an option for light amplification for dark areas, Obviously there should be already be some light dampening for being close to a star, as without it you would cook.
In modern ships, they turn on red lights. It's such a weird choice to use blue or have white light on at night. All ships not just misc really should go to red lights.
It would make more sense to have a cargo app on your mobi-glass. Prior to docking, you could arrange to sell and agree on a price using the app. Then, go to the cargo area, offload, get paid, then either leave or dock to store your ship.
Looks like there is no hurry flying the Hull C this patch either. But I guess not seeing your expensive cargo on the trade terminal is thematic for Halloween!
Anyone insisting that "the sun" only refers to "our sun" is pretty narcissistic. Technically our star's name is "Sol". We call it "sun" or "the sun" or "our sun" because it is our system's primary star. If any other system were populated, the local population would consider their own primary star "sun". So your default instinct is actually correct. You're in "their" system, it's their "sun".
I just learned this recently, OM1 is actually the North Pole of the planets. OM2 is South Pole. The rest are the equator. So, OM1 and OM2 will always be pretty much light.
I love the idea of getting a dedicated hauler and bringing cargo around the galaxy. fighting off or evading pirates, and maybe engaging in a little 'Privateering' myself.
I would use "the sun" no matter what solar system I was in. The only time I wouldn't, is when I was in a binary or bigger system. At which point I would only use sunrise/sunset and then refer to individual stars in every other case.
To me: SUN refers to the Star providing light & warmth to my current system, while anything outside the system has a STAR. It's a relative reference point. Of course, it would be SUNS or STARS in systems where it would apply. 😊
Take it from an astrophysicist (I'm on your side): There's a difference between "a sun" and "the Sun" (note the capital S). Any other sun is, well, basically a star, with the vague implication that this star has a relationship with some other celestial body around it, be it a planetoid, an asteroid belt, a black hole, etc - but this is not a strict requirement. Simply put, in some cases we have similar words for different concepts, not entirely unlike how we have "the Earth, where we live" and "the earth beneath our feet", and you could speak poetically (like Carl Sagan would) about other planets being "earths" that are more or less reminiscent of our Earth, for example to make a point about their context about their habitability, etc. - but if you were to say they were "Earths" (capital E), only then would be a little confused, thinking someone might have cloned Earth somehow, or drawn parallel dimensions together to have several Earths next to one another... Don't be afraid to invent new contexts when you have to; at least I think your scripts are well written and your trains of thoughts are clear. If your previously critiquing audience/commentators want you to say "Stantonrise/-set", then they should say "Solrise/-set", at least if they themselves want to be as painfully exact as they expect you to be. Or, if they'd rather "compromise", then they should always capitalize "Sunrise/-set" no matter the word order, context, or content of the rest of their written words. TL;DR: Don't worry, Farrister you're good :) Edit: Omg, yeah, much more known and accepted example: we have the Moon, which is a moon of Earth's, but Jupiter also has moons, and probably most exoplanets do as well... Edit2: what really grinds my gears, though, is that we don't seem to have a singular word for _"our nearest & most contextually relevant gravitationally binding celestial body [upon which we are, most likely, standing or flying above]"_, but no, instead we have **two**: "**planet**" and "**moon**" (and potentially variants thereof). From having played the game long enough now I realized that, in most cases it doesn't matter whether the speaking parties are stood on a moon or a planet in order to communicate clearly within a context, yet I find myself annoyed that we don't have a singular word that covers both (or all) cases conveniently for both informal and formal speech. Do you have any suggestions, maybe?
This is a wonderfully comprehensive response! I shall rest easy using common parlance, and know it carries an expert stamp of approval! Thank you for taking the time!!
To get around the no sale glitch: I've had success in clicking "sell" and then not giving any inputs until I see my aEUC amount change. Even if I see the " accepted" notification.
Thinking about it, I think it is perfectly natural to use sunrise/sunset in a system other than the Sol system. English does this with other words; the one that springs to mind is geyser. Geyser is in Iceland. Old Faithful is *a* geyser, but it is not Geyser. Stanton is *a* sun, but it is not *the* Sun.
I'm also dealing with every loaded cargo box behind me popping up in my UI. Too much clutter, and that's in the Connie Taurus. I havn't had the no-sale bug tho.
The worst ship for this I’ve found for this bug is the Caterpillar, because of where the cockpit and cargo are located it occludes the entire bottom right quarter of the UI 😂
I just made a test run with distilled spirits from one jump point gateway to another. The buying part was straight forward. But the selling part. Damn! that was very frustrating. despite the station having enough room for my entire cargo I was limited to batches of 600 SCU on the admin console so I had to repeat the loop 6 times: get to the admin office, sell, return to ship, go to the dock, unload, return to the pads (I didn't want to add the extra time of docking and undocking, so I decided to EVA between the ship and and a free service pad), rince and repeat. With of course a couple bugs kicking in like being thrown out of the elevator half way between the hangar lobby and the pad, and having to EVA the rest of the distance or returning to the menu and hoping the cargo would not be lost. I have the good surprise once to discover that the servers had registered I had sold cargo pending delivery and immediately pointed me to the cargo deck when I fired up the engine after connecting to a new server. In the end after a couple hours of this tedious process I finally got everything sold and unloaded.
@@Farrister Officer, I swear it's all legal and all due taxes have been paid. Wait... Oh no! Not again. The dockers forgot a box. And I'm already short on time for the next pickup. I can't turn back. Oh I know. Please Officer, if you don't mind, would you be kind enough to bring that box to our client on your way back? There's nothing urgent. i know you have tight schedule. Just drop it at the admin when you have time.
Quoting the Wiktionary entry on _sun_ here: "(astronomy) A star, especially when seen as the centre of any single solar system." This means that referring to the star of the system you are currently in as "the sun" is perfectly acceptable. I would like to compare this to a Star Trek DS9 dialogue about the moon. There, it is conventionally called Luna, as any other moon is also a moon (obviously), and referred to as The Moon by natives, while anyone else calls it Luna. Similarly, I think the Sun of our solar system would be called "Sol" (the starmap calls it this).
If you can’t jump directly to the station try jumping to the main city on the planet. It is easy to find because it looks like a home plate on the planet and you can jump to it from anywhere putting you right above the atmosphere allowing you to jump to the station.
actually 'The Sun' can be used to refer to any solar system's star, OUR sun is cataloged as the star Sol, stanton is the star stanton, the sun of the stanton system.
I've been running the Hull C the last couple weeks or so, but damn is it a painful loop. I still have no idea why they opted to have the docking and cargo loading be two different places. Okay, I DO understand why they did it, but they shouldn't have. 1) dock, 2) run into the kiosk before your ship is stored and sell the cargo (it'll definitely store in this time), 3) run back to your ship before it stores (it's DEFINITELY stored - so spawn a dragonfly, fly it to a landing pad outside, run in, spawn the Hull C, which will DEFINITELY not spawn on the arm and be inaccessible), 4) spawn your Hull C, 5) go to the landing pad where your Dragonfly is, 6) fly to your Hull C and board before it stores (also another nasty bug here - if you get the message, but your ship is still there, you won't be able to undock, and you'll have to store it and try again), 7) fly to the loading/unloading zone and SHUT OFF YOUR ENGINES so the grid doesn't detect you as moving, 8) unload (this actually works pretty reliably now), 9) go back to the docking arm, 10) repeat 1 - 8 to load your ship, 11) rinse and repeat at the next trade location. That is breathtakingly unfun. Just have the loading zone be at the docking arm, have more docking arms, and have the store time be longer for the Hull C.
The name of our Star is “SOL” the Latin word for sun. Sun is a generic term & is an appropriate name for any local star in a system. So you’re all good using Sun!
Well, I know it’s not necessary, can you use other ships that load cargo externally in this manner to try out the mechanics? Such as the Hull A or Nomad? I’m just curious if other ships can load in the loading zone around the stations.
I'm honestly thinking of starting some sort of in-game cargo insurance company. Just personally, I hated the fact that one modem hiccup and you're out millions of aUEC. Hull C looks good. I still prefer the versatility of the C2, but I'm definitely happy with more options, and I'm really looking forward to some more of the light capital ships rolling out.
I love the ship and hope they get the bugs worked out. Currently the problem I am mainly having is the docking port not extending to my ship. It is just floating out in space. I have also had several endless loading bugs where the timer never starts. I plan on keeping the ship but will save my aUEC until they get more of the kinks worked out.
Please note our star is call Sol you can use the word Sun for any star as it is a synonym for star as A star is called a Sun only if positioned at the centre of a planetary system
Inidentally - when I can't make the quantum jump system get to a planets orbital - (e.g: everus harbour) I have found I can always target and jump to the capital city. All capital cities are direclty below the orbital, so just jump to the capital, and then turn the ship off and on as soon as you get close, then target the orbital and jump to it instead. its a pain, but easier than finding a.n. other planet to jump to and potentially go the wrong direction or whatever.
Okay @1:15 spawned a HULL-C and headed for the docking port to find it NOT EXTENDED and my HULL-C just sitting out there waiting, impossible to reach! No way to extend a docking port on my end, so logged off and finished my beer... Good instruction!
It's perfectly fine to use sun as term for other stars. We do call our sun the Sun because that is what it is. It's less of a name but more like naming it what it is for us. :D
We humans are quite lazy with naming big things. There is no sanctioned name for the sun as is there for the other planets. a sun is a star. what about the moon? Calling them sol and lua is just calling them sun and moon in another language. BUT astronomers use the term sun and moon, but when referring to our system, they capitalize it. So our sun is called Sun and moon is called Moon. We also named god God lol So, sunrise and sunset will always be correct when applying to a sun/star, in this case stanton. I also did not expect that ending, but also I'm not surprised. still, this is a very real representation of the gameloop including the crap that can happen! Well done!
How did you get such a smooth, consistent camera rotation when you did the 12x cargo loading time lapse? Really hoping you answer, I've been trying to figure this out for some time now. Cheers!
how do you unlock the camera for cinematic views? also whats the trade route? I'm thinking about getting the Hull C today (despite people tell me not to, since its sooo buggy and I will lose money on trading) I tried sell my stuff on the reclaimed and I for some reason cannot sell at space stations (at the start I could but now I cant)
When you docked at Everus, how big is the possibility that the ship get stolen while going to the office to sell? I mean, In a hangar we have the hangar doors to prevent someone to just run off with the ship, is there something locking the ship to the harbour during this?
The issue with no round being found around a planet is „easily“ fixed. The issue is that your ship overshoots the spot it was going to (sometimes happens when you jump to a space station directly from a moon or so). Hit clear route and then jump to any OM marker you can find (usually there‘s one a few hundred kilometres behind you (the one you overshot). From there, setting a route should work. Gosh I love this game .-.
I used a reclaimer and loaded the entire hull c with construction materials and can’t sell it. Have to now get my buddy’s to all come in cargo ships and fly down to sell over and over again
Anybody who quibbles over you calling a star "sun" sounds VERY fun at parties. I refer to any star as "the sun" when I'm on a planet cause well... it's the sun.... unless there are more then they would be "the suns"
Hilarious. Every single time I check out a video from a dedicated fan of this beautiful "game" ... inevitably there's at least one, if not dozens, of game breaking bugs. Smh. Great video tho English fella! 👍🏼
Hiya pal aye its a bit of a gamble at the moment as the limits for the economy are a little if not non existant. I had the same problem with Distilled Spirits, Had to wait for station to buy 600 at a time, nightmare
The people telling you that the Sun in our solar system is only named the Sun are idiots. It is Named Sol, per the Sol System. Stars are Sun's Thus the Stanton System has a Sun, it is just named Stanton.
There is a Bug report for your cargo showing up in your UI. One of the comments claimed that CIG said it was NOT a bug. I'm not sure why they would claim at Citizen Con about decluttering your UI and then do that on purpose.
I thought u could only sell helium at baijini point? Thats one of my favorite route, so processed food from baijini to everus, helium is from serraphim to baijini.. thats my route on 3.20b and with outstanding profit aswell
Cargo running is by far the worst gameplay loop so far, both in terms of bugs and profit. It amplifies all issues currently in the game, unfortunately a lot of which have to do with cargo boxes/buying/selling stuff. When a PVE bounty hunt bugs out to be friendly, or when some shenanigans happen in a salvage run, you can just shrug and cancel the mission. When a cargo run fails at any point, you've got potentially millions of aUEC tied up or, in the worst case scenario, lost
Hello. I had the same problem trying to sell my cargo, from the docking doors not opening when returning to my ship, the falling out of the lift and floating in space when returning to the ship but selling the cargo is a big problem, after 5 hours trying to sell and dock up, some bell end fly's in to me in a reclaimer , blows us both up at the docking bay, he will just return and scoop my cargo up. Lost all money, will return to the game after the next wipe. don't play Hull C.
i bought one with my store credit, but was so disappointed 9/10 times spawning it on the docking port, the docking bridge didnt extend so the doors wouldnt open, but i didnt seem to have the issue of cargo loading but trying to unload cargo, it just kept telling me to come to a full halt even though i was. ended up melting it and have the reclaimer again now which prints money
I was playing with the Hull C during the two days of IAE 2023, and it was an absolute fiasco!It's not a problem if the ship is slow or takes an era to load a full load. That is understood by the mechanics of the ship itself.The problem is, right now the cargo transfer system is unstable and you may find yourself unexpectedly floating in the void wondering, where is my ship? Or with multiple bugs for loading and unloading and when you can carry charge for several million credits... It's a recipe for disaster. I finished playing it when I lost over $2.5 million because of those failures.Eventually, it will be a great ship, but until the bugs are fixed, I don't recommend it.
I thought you might like this piece of information. 'A star is called a Sun only if positioned at the centre of a planetary system. And because many stars in the galaxy also have planets orbiting them, this also makes them Suns. The Sun appears about 64 billion times brighter than it would if it were at the distance of the closest star' For reference, what we refer to as the Sun is officially called Sol which is Latin for Sun.
You can - in old patches, there was a big risk of being deposited into space and therefore ending up stuck, and I'm kinda scarred by that, so I always stay seated safely :D
Can someone tractor the cargo from spindles whilst the Hull C is docked? Just wondering how vulnerable everything is. I'm guessing that even if you couldn't use a tractor beam directly in space, you could use it from within a ship through an open door to strip the cargo.
probably, but what's more likely to happen is there is no security protecting your ship when its docked. someone could theoretically go to ur docking port and just steal your ship.
Sorry even though this video has been out for a while. I got to be that guy. It would be "Sun" as OUR "Sun's" name is SOL. We are part of the SOL system not the SUN system.
After taking 10min to dock I ran inside and couldn’t find the machine for buying cargo Finally found it and bought the copper for 200k Ran back to the ship and as I get in they said I need to leave and gave me 5s Panicked and then my ship disappears with the cargo and I’m stuck in space. Not knowing where to go to get back into the station I slowly take off my helmet and die. I respawned on another planet. I log off and turn off my computer.
I actually melted my Hull C until it’s in a more working state. I love this ship but it’s cost me a ton of auec. I’ll grab it from buy backs once it’s working.
I bought a Hull C but I haven't ever tried a cargo run, knowing how bugged it is. I'm not complaining as I can use it to get to a Liberator with a hefty 150$ straight gain, but overall It's difficult to justify giving CIG fresh money in recent times.
This video convinced me to not reinstall. I'm gonna wait for pyro to hit the PU... And maybe a bit more after that. Maybe I'll just wait for all the Sq42 stuff to hit PU.
The spookiest thing on display today is the Hull-C's lack of a bed, toilet and really any living space to speak of. Edit: My bad, I see it's only accessable through a ladder, when I explored the ship, I only used the elevators.
I have lost so much AUEC trying to use this ship... it really lives up to its shape.
Lol
Expands...
Don't ever expend money that someone who's robbing you isn't willing to do first. And none of them are.
Same here. Well said.
never lost all but lost some and that's down to bugs which i reported and it's the only way they get fixed anyway.
but it's not long till it's stable again.
Totally agree with how tedious it is to sell cargo. Just let me off load into the cargo deck on arrival! Its absurd that we have to sell, undock, unload, redock, buy, and then load.
I know, right?!
I really wish we could dim the UI off the ship sometime in the future. Seeing things in the dark is really difficult with the bright UI/cockpit.
The new UI looks like it will be less obstructive.
Turning the interior lights off really does help I find.
Agreed!
You would think there would be an option for light amplification for dark areas, Obviously there should be already be some light dampening for being close to a star, as without it you would cook.
In modern ships, they turn on red lights. It's such a weird choice to use blue or have white light on at night. All ships not just misc really should go to red lights.
It would make more sense to have a cargo app on your mobi-glass. Prior to docking, you could arrange to sell and agree on a price using the app. Then, go to the cargo area, offload, get paid, then either leave or dock to store your ship.
Agreed!
The word sun just refers to a star in the center of a solar system. The name of our sun irl is Sol.
It sounds more natural!
I love how breathtakingly beautiful this game is. Thank you for sharing this, Farrister!
Thanks Snaggletoof
Looks like there is no hurry flying the Hull C this patch either. But I guess not seeing your expensive cargo on the trade terminal is thematic for Halloween!
Haha so true!
Anyone insisting that "the sun" only refers to "our sun" is pretty narcissistic.
Technically our star's name is "Sol". We call it "sun" or "the sun" or "our sun" because it is our system's primary star.
If any other system were populated, the local population would consider their own primary star "sun".
So your default instinct is actually correct. You're in "their" system, it's their "sun".
W mans
Good to know!
I love that the Hull C looks like a 8==> at the left Corner 2:00 🤣
I don't know what you mean............
a penis@@Farrister
Thank you so much for the Video. I love the Hull C but had major problems with docking and selling
yeah I was being too careless and used up all my auec to buy cargo only for it to bug on me. Lost all my money lol.
Yup, a few people having problems with it, I think!
Great vid, Hull series have so much potential long term I guess we'll have to wait for an update.
Fingers crossed!
I just learned this recently, OM1 is actually the North Pole of the planets. OM2 is South Pole. The rest are the equator. So, OM1 and OM2 will always be pretty much light.
It's cool how they work
@@Farrister yeah, knowing that helps a lot orienting yourself while exploring. :)
I love the idea of getting a dedicated hauler and bringing cargo around the galaxy. fighting off or evading pirates, and maybe engaging in a little 'Privateering' myself.
:D
I would use "the sun" no matter what solar system I was in. The only time I wouldn't, is when I was in a binary or bigger system. At which point I would only use sunrise/sunset and then refer to individual stars in every other case.
To me: SUN refers to the Star providing light & warmth to my current system, while anything outside the system has a STAR. It's a relative reference point. Of course, it would be SUNS or STARS in systems where it would apply. 😊
Ah that's an interesting idea - hasn't considered multi-star systems!
@Farrister Star 🌟 Citizen has 5 Binary (two) systems: Bacchus, Baker, Goss, Indra, & Tyrol and one Ternary system UDS-2943-01-22 (not on ARK Starmap.
@@ericwollaston5654no it only has one star system
Genius! Absolutely, genius! Can't wait to see the next video!!
Hull C?
Take it from an astrophysicist (I'm on your side):
There's a difference between "a sun" and "the Sun" (note the capital S). Any other sun is, well, basically a star, with the vague implication that this star has a relationship with some other celestial body around it, be it a planetoid, an asteroid belt, a black hole, etc - but this is not a strict requirement.
Simply put, in some cases we have similar words for different concepts, not entirely unlike how we have "the Earth, where we live" and "the earth beneath our feet", and you could speak poetically (like Carl Sagan would) about other planets being "earths" that are more or less reminiscent of our Earth, for example to make a point about their context about their habitability, etc. - but if you were to say they were "Earths" (capital E), only then would be a little confused, thinking someone might have cloned Earth somehow, or drawn parallel dimensions together to have several Earths next to one another...
Don't be afraid to invent new contexts when you have to; at least I think your scripts are well written and your trains of thoughts are clear.
If your previously critiquing audience/commentators want you to say "Stantonrise/-set", then they should say "Solrise/-set", at least if they themselves want to be as painfully exact as they expect you to be. Or, if they'd rather "compromise", then they should always capitalize "Sunrise/-set" no matter the word order, context, or content of the rest of their written words.
TL;DR:
Don't worry, Farrister you're good :)
Edit: Omg, yeah, much more known and accepted example: we have the Moon, which is a moon of Earth's, but Jupiter also has moons, and probably most exoplanets do as well...
Edit2: what really grinds my gears, though, is that we don't seem to have a singular word for
_"our nearest & most contextually relevant gravitationally binding celestial body [upon which we are, most likely, standing or flying above]"_,
but no, instead we have **two**: "**planet**" and "**moon**" (and potentially variants thereof).
From having played the game long enough now I realized that, in most cases it doesn't matter whether the speaking parties are stood on a moon or a planet in order to communicate clearly within a context, yet I find myself annoyed that we don't have a singular word that covers both (or all) cases conveniently for both informal and formal speech.
Do you have any suggestions, maybe?
I would say “celestial body” but that doesn’t roll off the tongue well at all.
This is a wonderfully comprehensive response! I shall rest easy using common parlance, and know it carries an expert stamp of approval! Thank you for taking the time!!
Absolutely love these gameplay videos! I can always find useful information and tips and I find them very calm and relaxing. 🍻
To get around the no sale glitch: I've had success in clicking "sell" and then not giving any inputs until I see my aEUC amount change. Even if I see the " accepted" notification.
Will have to give it a try
Lost about a million uaec because i bought 102% of my load and the system could not load it into my hull c..
Ugh
Thinking about it, I think it is perfectly natural to use sunrise/sunset in a system other than the Sol system. English does this with other words; the one that springs to mind is geyser. Geyser is in Iceland. Old Faithful is *a* geyser, but it is not Geyser. Stanton is *a* sun, but it is not *the* Sun.
Our Star is Sol, hence Sol-ar system. So technically any star is a Sun, and thus Sun Rise does make sense and is accurate.
Thank goodness!
A sun is a sun. _Sol_ is our sun.
Not to everybody, I suppose!
Cool i'm happy you are back. I realy like your cozy style. 😊
I never went anywhere!
I'm also dealing with every loaded cargo box behind me popping up in my UI. Too much clutter, and that's in the Connie Taurus. I havn't had the no-sale bug tho.
Ah, not just me then!
The worst ship for this I’ve found for this bug is the Caterpillar, because of where the cockpit and cargo are located it occludes the entire bottom right quarter of the UI 😂
I just made a test run with distilled spirits from one jump point gateway to another. The buying part was straight forward. But the selling part. Damn! that was very frustrating. despite the station having enough room for my entire cargo I was limited to batches of 600 SCU on the admin console so I had to repeat the loop 6 times: get to the admin office, sell, return to ship, go to the dock, unload, return to the pads (I didn't want to add the extra time of docking and undocking, so I decided to EVA between the ship and and a free service pad), rince and repeat. With of course a couple bugs kicking in like being thrown out of the elevator half way between the hangar lobby and the pad, and having to EVA the rest of the distance or returning to the menu and hoping the cargo would not be lost. I have the good surprise once to discover that the servers had registered I had sold cargo pending delivery and immediately pointed me to the cargo deck when I fired up the engine after connecting to a new server. In the end after a couple hours of this tedious process I finally got everything sold and unloaded.
Distilled spirits? Seems of questionable legality to me........... :D
@@Farrister Officer, I swear it's all legal and all due taxes have been paid.
Wait... Oh no! Not again.
The dockers forgot a box. And I'm already short on time for the next pickup. I can't turn back.
Oh I know. Please Officer, if you don't mind, would you be kind enough to bring that box to our client on your way back? There's nothing urgent. i know you have tight schedule. Just drop it at the admin when you have time.
@@christianbarnay2499 xD
Quoting the Wiktionary entry on _sun_ here: "(astronomy) A star, especially when seen as the centre of any single solar system."
This means that referring to the star of the system you are currently in as "the sun" is perfectly acceptable.
I would like to compare this to a Star Trek DS9 dialogue about the moon. There, it is conventionally called Luna, as any other moon is also a moon (obviously), and referred to as The Moon by natives, while anyone else calls it Luna. Similarly, I think the Sun of our solar system would be called "Sol" (the starmap calls it this).
If you can’t jump directly to the station try jumping to the main city on the planet. It is easy to find because it looks like a home plate on the planet and you can jump to it from anywhere putting you right above the atmosphere allowing you to jump to the station.
I'm just afraid of quantum travel taking me the direct route, slamming me into the planet lol. It's happened before!
I didn’t have any luck getting the docking to extend properly for the Hull C or Hammerhead this patch. Glad it’s working sometimes though.
Iv had that, after re logging and coming back it worked (not sure if it was the same server though)
Oh I haven't really had that issue so much, it's more cargo based problems for me!
All the time, docking port issues, but I had to Eva to get in and then it worked to let me undock
actually 'The Sun' can be used to refer to any solar system's star, OUR sun is cataloged as the star Sol, stanton is the star stanton, the sun of the stanton system.
Good news :)
I don't even play Star Citizen, but your voice is like butter. So I'm subbing for that lol
I've been running the Hull C the last couple weeks or so, but damn is it a painful loop. I still have no idea why they opted to have the docking and cargo loading be two different places. Okay, I DO understand why they did it, but they shouldn't have.
1) dock, 2) run into the kiosk before your ship is stored and sell the cargo (it'll definitely store in this time), 3) run back to your ship before it stores (it's DEFINITELY stored - so spawn a dragonfly, fly it to a landing pad outside, run in, spawn the Hull C, which will DEFINITELY not spawn on the arm and be inaccessible), 4) spawn your Hull C, 5) go to the landing pad where your Dragonfly is, 6) fly to your Hull C and board before it stores (also another nasty bug here - if you get the message, but your ship is still there, you won't be able to undock, and you'll have to store it and try again), 7) fly to the loading/unloading zone and SHUT OFF YOUR ENGINES so the grid doesn't detect you as moving, 8) unload (this actually works pretty reliably now), 9) go back to the docking arm, 10) repeat 1 - 8 to load your ship, 11) rinse and repeat at the next trade location.
That is breathtakingly unfun. Just have the loading zone be at the docking arm, have more docking arms, and have the store time be longer for the Hull C.
What makes it tougher is that ONLY the Hull C is beholden to the new mechanics, which makes it a bit of a second class citizen, for now :(
@@Farrister annnnnnnnd that
The name of our Star is “SOL” the Latin word for sun. Sun is a generic term & is an appropriate name for any local star in a system. So you’re all good using Sun!
Well, I know it’s not necessary, can you use other ships that load cargo externally in this manner to try out the mechanics? Such as the Hull A or Nomad? I’m just curious if other ships can load in the loading zone around the stations.
Maybe!
I'm honestly thinking of starting some sort of in-game cargo insurance company. Just personally, I hated the fact that one modem hiccup and you're out millions of aUEC.
Hull C looks good. I still prefer the versatility of the C2, but I'm definitely happy with more options, and I'm really looking forward to some more of the light capital ships rolling out.
That's such a cool idea!
I love the ship and hope they get the bugs worked out. Currently the problem I am mainly having is the docking port not extending to my ship. It is just floating out in space. I have also had several endless loading bugs where the timer never starts. I plan on keeping the ship but will save my aUEC until they get more of the kinks worked out.
Happens to a few people, I think
Please note our star is call Sol you can use the word Sun for any star as it is a synonym for star as A star is called a Sun only if positioned at the centre of a planetary system
Good to know!
Inidentally - when I can't make the quantum jump system get to a planets orbital - (e.g: everus harbour) I have found I can always target and jump to the capital city. All capital cities are direclty below the orbital, so just jump to the capital, and then turn the ship off and on as soon as you get close, then target the orbital and jump to it instead. its a pain, but easier than finding a.n. other planet to jump to and potentially go the wrong direction or whatever.
That can work too!
Okay @1:15 spawned a HULL-C and headed for the docking port to find it NOT EXTENDED and my HULL-C just sitting out there waiting, impossible to reach!
No way to extend a docking port on my end, so logged off and finished my beer... Good instruction!
It's perfectly fine to use sun as term for other stars. We do call our sun the Sun because that is what it is. It's less of a name but more like naming it what it is for us. :D
Jolly good!
We humans are quite lazy with naming big things. There is no sanctioned name for the sun as is there for the other planets. a sun is a star. what about the moon? Calling them sol and lua is just calling them sun and moon in another language. BUT astronomers use the term sun and moon, but when referring to our system, they capitalize it.
So our sun is called Sun and moon is called Moon. We also named god God lol
So, sunrise and sunset will always be correct when applying to a sun/star, in this case stanton.
I also did not expect that ending, but also I'm not surprised. still, this is a very real representation of the gameloop including the crap that can happen! Well done!
Thanks Nils, as always :)
How did you get such a smooth, consistent camera rotation when you did the 12x cargo loading time lapse?
Really hoping you answer, I've been trying to figure this out for some time now.
Cheers!
I use an Xbox controller for axis control of the pan - combine that with a very steady hand, and there you go!
how do you unlock the camera for cinematic views?
also whats the trade route? I'm thinking about getting the Hull C today (despite people tell me not to, since its sooo buggy and I will lose money on trading)
I tried sell my stuff on the reclaimed and I for some reason cannot sell at space stations (at the start I could but now I cant)
F4 for cinematic camera. It's very buggy, I'm afraid!
Try parking next to The pads without docking, EVA into the station and then try selling.
Oh an interesting idea!
When you docked at Everus, how big is the possibility that the ship get stolen while going to the office to sell? I mean, In a hangar we have the hangar doors to prevent someone to just run off with the ship, is there something locking the ship to the harbour during this?
It's possible, sadly, although I'm told that some of the doors can lock now, which I need to check out
any star at the center of a planetary system is the "sun" of that system! but ours is the only "solar" system because Sol is our sun.
I'm learning so much!
Wow Forrester sounds pissed off!!
Oh no, not me...
The issue with no round being found around a planet is „easily“ fixed.
The issue is that your ship overshoots the spot it was going to (sometimes happens when you jump to a space station directly from a moon or so). Hit clear route and then jump to any OM marker you can find (usually there‘s one a few hundred kilometres behind you (the one you overshot). From there, setting a route should work.
Gosh I love this game .-.
I used a reclaimer and loaded the entire hull c with construction materials and can’t sell it. Have to now get my buddy’s to all come in cargo ships and fly down to sell over and over again
Oof :(
Never bought the Hull C so I am glad NOT to suffer, sorry Farrister!!
Haha, happy for you!!
Anybody who quibbles over you calling a star "sun" sounds VERY fun at parties. I refer to any star as "the sun" when I'm on a planet cause well... it's the sun.... unless there are more then they would be "the suns"
Haha
Absolutely genius!
Wonderful!
Hilarious.
Every single time I check out a video from a dedicated fan of this beautiful "game" ... inevitably there's at least one, if not dozens, of game breaking bugs. Smh.
Great video tho English fella! 👍🏼
Haha, I try to show the game, warts and all!
i think im just gonna stick with the c2 and wake of disaster missions... though i did lose 12mil worth of weevil eggs due to a 30k one time
Oof
"Stantonrise" I'm dead 💀🤣
Nice Vid! how do you run this game so smooth on 4k? What specs you have?
Thank you :) I keep the specs that the video was made with in the video description for each :)
Stanrise and Stanset sounds like songs Eminem would have done in early 00s
Hiya pal aye its a bit of a gamble at the moment as the limits for the economy are a little if not non existant. I had the same problem with Distilled Spirits, Had to wait for station to buy 600 at a time, nightmare
At least they bought them!
The people telling you that the Sun in our solar system is only named the Sun are idiots. It is Named Sol, per the Sol System. Stars are Sun's Thus the Stanton System has a Sun, it is just named Stanton.
:)
Like the video, big up from Algeria
Awesome, thank you :)
Awesome stuff!
o7
There is a Bug report for your cargo showing up in your UI. One of the comments claimed that CIG said it was NOT a bug. I'm not sure why they would claim at Citizen Con about decluttering your UI and then do that on purpose.
lol can't explain that then!
I thought u could only sell helium at baijini point? Thats one of my favorite route, so processed food from baijini to everus, helium is from serraphim to baijini.. thats my route on 3.20b and with outstanding profit aswell
Maybe! In 3.20 I always ran helium to Everus. I tried some other places and still no luck, that cargo is still there!!
Cargo running is by far the worst gameplay loop so far, both in terms of bugs and profit. It amplifies all issues currently in the game, unfortunately a lot of which have to do with cargo boxes/buying/selling stuff.
When a PVE bounty hunt bugs out to be friendly, or when some shenanigans happen in a salvage run, you can just shrug and cancel the mission. When a cargo run fails at any point, you've got potentially millions of aUEC tied up or, in the worst case scenario, lost
It's a rough place to be, that's for sure.
Sunrise is correct for any star. However, our sun is called Sol. We do not say Sol rise or Sol set.
"Stan-rise" and "Stan-set" 😂
Hello. I had the same problem trying to sell my cargo, from the docking doors not opening when returning to my ship, the falling out of the lift and floating in space when returning to the ship but selling the cargo is a big problem, after 5 hours trying to sell and dock up, some bell end fly's in to me in a reclaimer , blows us both up at the docking bay, he will just return and scoop my cargo up. Lost all money, will return to the game after the next wipe. don't play Hull C.
Mine is stuck in hangar, for now :(
i bought one with my store credit, but was so disappointed
9/10 times spawning it on the docking port, the docking bridge didnt extend so the doors wouldnt open, but i didnt seem to have the issue of cargo loading
but trying to unload cargo, it just kept telling me to come to a full halt even though i was. ended up melting it and have the reclaimer again now which prints money
Great video as always, but really hoping to see Reclaimer Docking port works.
Reclaimer...
I was playing with the Hull C during the two days of IAE 2023, and it was an absolute fiasco!It's not a problem if the ship is slow or takes an era to load a full load. That is understood by the mechanics of the ship itself.The problem is, right now the cargo transfer system is unstable and you may find yourself unexpectedly floating in the void wondering, where is my ship? Or with multiple bugs for loading and unloading and when you can carry charge for several million credits... It's a recipe for disaster. I finished playing it when I lost over $2.5 million because of those failures.Eventually, it will be a great ship, but until the bugs are fixed, I don't recommend it.
Yeah, it's really not feeling great right now :(
When you get to the station stop by the terminal real quick and check your shop in and out real quick, will not get a warning.
Eavry Sun is a Star and evry Star is a sun.
Good to know!
I thought you might like this piece of information. 'A star is called a Sun only if positioned at the centre of a planetary system. And because many stars in the galaxy also have planets orbiting them, this also makes them Suns. The Sun appears about 64 billion times brighter than it would if it were at the distance of the closest star' For reference, what we refer to as the Sun is officially called Sol which is Latin for Sun.
can you walk around your ship while traveling or quantum jumping?
You can - in old patches, there was a big risk of being deposited into space and therefore ending up stuck, and I'm kinda scarred by that, so I always stay seated safely :D
@@Farrister thank you
Can someone tractor the cargo from spindles whilst the Hull C is docked? Just wondering how vulnerable everything is. I'm guessing that even if you couldn't use a tractor beam directly in space, you could use it from within a ship through an open door to strip the cargo.
probably, but what's more likely to happen is there is no security protecting your ship when its docked. someone could theoretically go to ur docking port and just steal your ship.
You know, I haven't tried!
How much do you average per trip assuming you actually get to sale your cargo?
I'm not a programmer, but is it really that hard to make stuff like selling cargo work??
Perfect end. That's the star citizen experience there right for you. Haha.
Take a Hull A and move the cargo over. :)
Might take a while!!
You are fine using Sun, our star is Named Sol so Sun is just a generic term for a star .
Jolly good!
i'd knock some trades out today but i'm sleepy now.
I have that effect...
What happens if you sell but don't unload, but instead go somewhere else and sell it again?
Money will come when it unload😂 when you sell no money yet
1:47 imagine having to play chess just to undock.
yes i got the no sell bug at pyro today ... dang
That's an SC ending if i've ever seen one. 😁
Maybe you can sell at those jumlpoint stations?
Guy's our star has the name los
Sol?
Sorry even though this video has been out for a while. I got to be that guy. It would be "Sun" as OUR "Sun's" name is SOL. We are part of the SOL system not the SUN system.
Haha, fair enough!
Wow
It really does have such a strange shape
It looks like a giant...
@@Farrister hehehehe
yeah the cargo boxes show up on the C2/M2/A2
Yup!
After taking 10min to dock
I ran inside and couldn’t find the machine for buying cargo
Finally found it and bought the copper for 200k
Ran back to the ship and as I get in they said I need to leave and gave me 5s
Panicked and then my ship disappears with the cargo and I’m stuck in space. Not knowing where to go to get back into the station I slowly take off my helmet and die.
I respawned on another planet.
I log off and turn off my computer.
I actually melted my Hull C until it’s in a more working state. I love this ship but it’s cost me a ton of auec. I’ll grab it from buy backs once it’s working.
11:20 CIG please implement this
The unofficial feedback forum :D
I think should have a separate docking station at the cargo area 🤔 hope they are working on it
I really wish the hull c worked. I have one now but its just going to ve part of an M2 ccu chain than anything ill actually use
I bought a Hull C but I haven't ever tried a cargo run, knowing how bugged it is. I'm not complaining as I can use it to get to a Liberator with a hefty 150$ straight gain, but overall It's difficult to justify giving CIG fresh money in recent times.
This video convinced me to not reinstall. I'm gonna wait for pyro to hit the PU... And maybe a bit more after that. Maybe I'll just wait for all the Sq42 stuff to hit PU.
Are you serious? We can't sell yet with the Hull C?
*sigh...
Sometimes it does, but not reliably!
9:22 imagine having to play chess just to enjoy the actual game
The spookiest thing on display today is the Hull-C's lack of a bed, toilet and really any living space to speak of. Edit: My bad, I see it's only accessable through a ladder, when I explored the ship, I only used the elevators.
Huh? The Hull C has living quarters with beds, bathroom, and kitchen
Really? I looked all over and couldn't find them. My mistake if that's the case.@@caseytwill
Haha, it's upstairs!
Guess you didn't even try to watch any videos about the ship first. Farrister even has a detailed video of it as does Morphologis.
Bro… I could listen to your voice for an hour
Wish my kid would!! But thanks xD
SC life is a bug life!