When visiting my uncle in Maryland US in 1970 he had a LHD metallic silver EH Premier station wagon in his garage. He found it abandoned in a GM vehicle park somewhere. Said it was a special build sent over for the World Expo. They were about to scrap it but he was able to buy it. They had left the windows down and the seats had rotted. He got them redone up somehow and the car spent the next few years driving around on the streets of DC.
The EJ was horrendously slow. One motor mag gave it a top speed of 79mph. Someone might be able to answer this question - did the slow-shifting hydramatic transmission have 3 or 4 forward gears? Officially 3 but it was said to have a barely detectable ultra low first.
@@johncunningham4820 John & Nej: When the EH was first road-tested one of the motor mags, I forget which one, called the Hydramatic a 3 speed with a semi-hidden low first gear making it a 4 speed. I remember because at the time Ford's Fordomatic was a 2 speed and Holden was getting ahead of Ford. The Trimatic came with the HG in 1970. Looking into it futher: Hydramatic is an automatic transmission developed by GM's Cadillac and Oldsmobile divisions. The EJ/EH shop manual called it a three speed (D-S-L). But the supplement (the big thick black one) lists the Hydramatic as a 4 speed. So it's a 3 speed with four ratios. Another person stated that the only time he ever heard a Hydramatic drop into true 1st was when pulling a caravan uphill from a stationary position. Another says the factory caused confusion in describing the 3 speed Hydramatic as a 4-S or 4 stage transmission, which implied it was a 4 speed. However, "second" gear is actually first gear minus the torque multiplication, which quickly ceases to multiply seconds after the car starts rolling. This change in ratio on the first speed was achieved by activating a valve and filling and unfilling the torus chamber. Normally you only hear the transmission shift twice, as a three speed would do.
Although the EH S4 was made to win at Bathurst, they did poorly in both the 1963 and 1964 Bathurst 500 races. Wheels falling off were a major problem for one thing. The lighter Ford Cortina GT winning in 63,64 and 65. That was the car Harry Firth chose to run as larger cars were stressing wheels, tyres, fuel and brakes.
Rubbish! The Holden S4 finished second in 1963 and took 5 of the top ten places in its class. Hardly doing poorly against a much higher spec Cortina that had disc brakes and a four speed gearbox as opposed to drum brakes and 3 speed gearboxes in the EHs..
When I was a teenager, dad got a 1964 EH wagon and I just loved it. Even now, i still see the EH Wagon as the epitome of classic car design, it just seems to be so perfectly balanced and proportional. We got a Zephyr MkIII after that, but I still liked the EH. Dad reckoned teh 179 engine was better than the 186 X2 engine that came out in 1965. Damn, those were the days!
The 179 doing the ton must have given Ford heart failure as they only had the 144 cu.in six in the Falcon. The Pursuit 170 followed; with pursuit and follow being the operative words. The cops had them. One mag had Ford's 170 doing 0-60 in under 11 seconds - hard to believe as that was AP5/6 territory?
In the late 70’s, I had the EH Flintstones Special Wagon version: the floor was rusted out in the back row so passengers could lift the mat and run on the ground for extra power. Also useful for braking.
I had a HK Premier and a HG ute with the same floor mods as your EH; Great on hot days...not so good when there was a bit of Blow By coming out of the breather!
My Dad owned many Austin 10s back in the 70s... they were old then. His favourite was a 1932 model Austin 10 boasting a 10 HP motor... There was an emblem on the back of the front guards saying - Holden Body Works! Yep assembled in SA with parts from the UK.
@@ianmcleod9088 Yep, the Neptune Racing Team. Norm in the EH, later in the Mustang in 1962 or 63. Peter Manton in the Mini Cooper S and Jim Mkeown in a Lotus Cortina.
@@jeeves6490 Valiants came standard with rust under the windscreens and in the plenum; the Falcons and Cortinas had not-so optional holes in the boot wells, floors and sills; At least the Holden lasted for a few years before it started rusting.
Glad you pointed that out. I've had three of these EH S4s and I was thinking, what's that supercharger doing in there, I can't remember mine having one of those... As to the EH itself, they sure were good-looking cars, even if I don't think they were Holden's best, but they were nice to drive and they were everywhere. In later years they were a second-hand car dealer's bread and butter! At one time, when I was living in Darwin, a bunch of yahoos stole my EH during the night and ended up in a creek with it. It was all banged up, but a local farmer dragged it out of the creek for me and I drove it home!
Worse they portray the red engine as tough. ive built a number of them and i can tell you that they are utter garbage that barely even withstand a 1 to 1 hp to cube ratio. Junk is their name. BTW, they also showed a gearbox with a jet engine bolted to it lol
my 1st car was an EH, I love them if I ever get a bug to restore a old Holden it would be an EH, I learned my car skills on it I put in hj panel van tail lights in it and was the 1st time I painted a car Aussie 202 and 4 speed, it never had power brakes they didn't show up till HR with a remote booster
I had a panel van undercoat grey 186, 149 head. 090 grind cam,X2 Manifold, extractors, Celica 4 Speed. And three bullet holes in the r/h door and guard. Called it the CAVE. Loved it.
@@jeeves6490 The coppers loved 'racing grey' cars...they'd pull 'em over any time they saw them for a 'numbers inspection' that sooned turned into the canary book coming out. Arseholes were no fun.
I got my drivers licence in my fathers EH Wagon in the early 1970's. He got the car in 1965, from Smiths of Port Adelaide. It was a 3 on the tree, had heaters. That car went like the bloody clappers. I guess chocolate brown wasn't a popular colour because In summer it was a great joy to lose layers of skin when you sat on the seats. Even seat covers didn't help.
Ah yes...the old chocolate brown vinyl was never good after a day at the beach wearing only thongs and a pair of shorts; The only thing that sort of helped was a wet towel that dried in a matter of minutes; Why Holden continued with that interior colour all the way to the WB ute defies Aussie logic.
My dad purchased an eh 1963 first 149, what a beautiful ute it was,powerful,plenty of get up and go, easy to drive, wasn't sincro in first gear, much easier than the 48 chev ute. Australia 🇦🇺
@@darrylmackie9184 Are you an a-hole? at the time it was a milestone for the old holdens to hit 100k miles, you're obviously not old enough to know.....
Even I had 100,000 miles on my EH. With the 149 motor. Then the odometer stopped working, so I really didn't know how many miles were on it when I sold it in 1975. I suspect this is just trash talking. There must have been tens of thousands of EHs which got over 100000 miles: probably the majority.
I was driving behind a beautifully restored EH wagon a few months ago, it looked better than new, little old lady driving it. I was gobsmacked by how small it was in comparison to what we've become used to. But I don't remember ever thinking it was a smaller car back in the day.
I made the comment above but I'll post again just for you...i'd rather an EH any day...preferably a Wagon; 179HP with twin Strombergs and a Syncro 3 (Speco) speed on the floor; Extractors and a Two inch exhaust; Lowered just a little; Sky blue with white roof; Dragway mags; Doe Skin Premier interior; S4 gauges and a 14 inch SAAS steering wheel...please sir, can I have one?
The EH S4 was an interesting car. With huge problems for racing. How they kept a gearbox in them was a mystery. Some cheating I feel sure. Then the front hubs and stubs were quite weak and they tore the centres out of the wheels. As a road car apart from the terrible gearbox they [for the time] went well, handled well and stopped,, well ok., I owned an S4 from 72-75 and it was given a hard time. Gearbox was replaced with a later model 3 speed all synchro which stopped gearboxes exploding. In actual fact the FJ gearbox had the same internals in a stronger case. With just over half the horsepower and mine was mildly modded. My big tank EH ended up only holding about half a gallon more than the std one. Bottom was pushed in bad EHs came originally with 149 red, soon aftr 179 with power sapping hydramatic. Then the S4 with a rehashed 149 box. After that all 179EHs had that gearbox. As well as HD HR and many HKs. Subsequently I have owned a dozen plus EHs,, a couple of fairly nice ones, a sedan and EH van. I was given an EH wagon that I drag raced the following day! High 18s!
From memory, I think the race versions had gearboxes modified from Speco (Melbourne) that gave the 3 speed a Synchro 1st and taller 3rd; again from memory but I think the mod also included a fine-spline output shaft so it could carry a thicker tail shaft yoke.....Scrutineering wasn't as rigorous back then and no marshal wanted to get on his back to check under the cars; shame they didn't do anything about the front hubs and wheel studs; I think even the Cortinas had thicker stub axles and studs...
@@ldnwholesale8552 Not right!! EH was released 1964, not 1963. EH Standard came only with 149 engine manual trans no auto. EH Special had choice between 149 or 179. All 149's were manual trans only. 179 engine offered manual or auto trans. Premiers were all 179 with auto trans only, no manual.
The old man worked at Holden (R&D) and my uncle, both started at SAR. First brand new car we had was a EH Wagon, good bus, but rusty (they left the steel outside, acc to the old man).. The HR was better, esp the X2 Prem.
The HR was a vastly better car. With disk brakes at least it could stop straight. Excessively light rear suspension (springs and shocks) was its biggest design flaw.
The 48 - 215 (FX) was based on a rejected post war Chev design, and was designed, engineered and prototyped in Detroit before being shipped to Australia for testing and evaluation.
All Holdens from 1948 to 64 were scaled down Chevies either of the same year or 3 years after like FB/EK -> 1957 Chevy. After 1965, the resemblance wasnt so noticeable.
There was only around 120 of the S4s made They were an experimental exercise at best … The brake upgrade was a bigger return spring …. You carry on about the S4 like it was a big thing …
Yes not really a big upgrade. I found from a search : "The Holden EH S4 was fitted with - 3.55 diff ratio, sports shock absorbers, upgraded three-speed manual transmission, heavy-duty clutch, brake booster. "
EH S4 had sintered metal linings and a power booster and wider front drums. The improved gerabox was still crap, upgraded clutch bigger than the 149 one. They had a bigger fuel tank. Plus ofcourse they were the first 179 manual EHs. Before that they were all 149s with manual.
@@johnd8892 The diff centre was supposed to be better material. To me the same as all EHs. most had 3.55s. Shocks were std. Read the S4 supplement for the EH workshop manual.
@@ldnwholesale8552 They also had a small tacho...when first available,the 179 was only with the Auto box,because the original manual wasn't strong enough...after the S4,it was thenavailable
Actually do remember seeing a heavily worked brown EH Holden blow away everything else on the track at a club event at the now long gone Lakeside track to the north of Brisbane. Some young unknown called Dick Johnson was the driver.
This is obviously AI generated. Keeps repeating the same phrases over and over and seems to be full of poor quality photos and videos lifted from somewhere else.
The Voice sounds like Real Person to me . Also got the Facts Right . Kinda rare that . I don't really think there is much " NEW FOOTAGE " of EH Holden's to be had these days . You don't like it ? Do your Own Review then . Show us ALL how it's done .
Commenting to say i agree, clearly is a ai generated script read by a ai generated voice with a overlay first result images and videos being selected and upscaled by ai. All probably autonomously being created by a program that some dude wrote
The 1963 model Holden was the EJ and was different in the grill and boot/tail light areas. It had a grey side valve motor of about 124 cubic inches. Your statements with the shown 1964 EH models is correct with the same basic body shell as the EJ but with the red motor in 149 and 179 cubic inch motors. I have owned several of each.
It was commonly , known as 138 in.³ side plate grey motor also head only four main bearing crankshaft looked a bit like 215 cubic Chevrolet engine just smaller capacity and smaller overall dimensions
The LAST iteration of the holden six was the black engine, that's 30 years of success you knob. It's obvious you never had any Holden sixes, your comment is laughable garbage, and I'm not even a Holden guy, but i'm old enough to know better....
The EH model came with two engine sizes. 149 and 179. Both with a seven bearing crackshaft. You seemed to forgot to mention. Only main problem was first gear didn't have synchromesh. Must have been too difficult for GMH.
@gone547 Cortina GT was a standard production model, no extra mids at all. If it was better on the track it was just better. The later GT500 was a modified special but it met the requirements of limited production at the time.
Congratulations on a great program. I'll be looking for more of these. But I must take issue with a couple of points you make. The S4 was no faster than any other 179 engine EH Holden. The only engine mods related, as you quite correctly stated, to strengthening the engine's bottom end. Improved brakes and slightly larger fuel tank were good. But of very modest value against its competitors. Secondly, there is a pervasive belief that the EH was the "great step forward" for Holden's cars. Sure, the engines used in ALL of the EH models were much better than the "grey" motor it replaced, but I don't believe that was anything like the great step made with the next model: the HD. With the HD, Holden offered power steering, power assisted front disc brakes and an enhanced engine called the X2. This had genuinely more horsepower than the HD's standard engines due to an improved head, twin throat carb, headers and I think an improved cam. It also had a more flow-through exhaust system. Not sure, but I've hear you could also order a four speed floor shift. None of these were available in the EH. Nonetheless, the EH was and remains a great car with timeless styling and hordes of fans.
In 63 a 179 was auto and a manual was 149. The s4 was a 179 manual plus the extras you mentioned. Think they came out in 4 colours Winton red and Fowlers ivory roof. There was a dark blue and white too not sure of he other colours. In 64 the 179 was manual as standard and auto as an option. My mum had the 179 manual but not S4. Nod not sure weather the s4 had a different body code. As a special was EH-225. the second 2 meaning special and the 5 meaning sedan and so on 235 prem 215 standard I think 214 taxi but the 179 had a steel crank in the HP block as the HD had 179 on the block.
Nope, you could get manual in both 179 and 149, in fact, most were manuals, they also came out in over 30 colours. Google EH paint codes.... I have an EH wagon , a EJ ute and a HD holden ute. The EH wagon is a 1963 179 manual, all original , Morwell Grey and fowlers Ivory roof....
@@MickH60 we’re talking 63. By 64 the option was open. Eh was all colours. But I was talking about the S4 wasn’t many colours. And I’m not sure if I ever seen a 149 auto
@@MickH60 off the net The 179 manual option was not available until April 1964. Other new models were also introduced. They were the Premier wagon, and the limited edition S4 model. The S4 was introduced in September 1963.
EH and HD X2 cranks wee steel. After that they were cast. And seldom ever caused an issue. Even on 202s. Which had bad viabrations. People have turned them 7000 rpm plus for the last 60 years!
0:56 the Holden fell apart on Redex Round Australia Trials. The cars had American suspension that fell apart. Peugeot were the car Holden thought they were.
True that; Even the Citroen was a stronger car in the early Redex Trials days....so was the VW but they weren't a Holden 6 screaming at 90MPH were they?
@@markhills3922 VW and Peugeot were the main winners in the 50s. It wasn't till1980 that Holden won and that was a heavily backed team with the biggest budget
@@Chapps1941 I am aware of that and you'll get no argument from me about the money 'HDT' put into the Redex Trials wins; apart from VW and Peugeot winning everything (as well as the early BMC minis), the Citroens were a reliable finisher every time; Still, none of them sounded as good as a worked Holden 6 belting along at 90mph over dirt roads...
Holden really got the shape RIGHT on the EJ-EH series. One of the BEST looking cars ever built in Australia. Then they f**ked it up again with the GHASTLY looking HR.
I agree....and the HD HR handled like bathtubs in a speedboat race. The EJ-EH might of been stiff on the smaller bumps (less refined they said) but at least it went around corners without scraping the chrome off the door handles.
The HD X2 twin carb 179 and 3 speed transmission the HR x2 was a twin carb 186 and I think had a 4 speed that part I might be wrong but yeah i do know they had the same twin single barrel down draft carburetors just different engine sizes and also came standard with disc brakes. The same twin carb set up used on the early LC toranas with a 186
@@AlanBrazil-ox2fr The X2 HR was fitted with Twin Downdraught Strombergs, a 'special' inlet manifold and Factory 2 piece headers if I remember correctly; Yes 4sp Opel 'crash' box and Disc brakes for the first time; Also had a thicker sway bar and stiffer springs which the HR was in real need of.
Mate had an S4 EH back in the 70s - had a hot 186 in it & went bloody well. Used to supprise a few V8's in the day. - sadly it rusted away to oblivion.
I had an EH wagon that was on another level and the smoothest riding car I've ever had the pleasure of driving. Silly me, had a few beers and f$%k&d it up. I cried.
Average video with very little actual facts. The S4 isn’t lost, and it’s not really a legend considering Mini’s and Cortina’s were just as competitive as it, and it didn’t ‘destroy’ everyone. I also don’t know why you have to repeat yourself 4 times. All your points you said multiple times in different ways. We get it had a 3 speed, a brake upgrade and a bigger fuel tank the first time. There was no mention at all on its racing results, who drove one or anything like that. You kept showing a 179 with a supercharger and Holley carb on it, that’s nothing Holden ever built, and it was definitely not a 60’s built motor. It was more like a motor built 20yrs ago or so. Disappointing. A 6min video with 1mins of information, and 5mins of the same cars driving and the wrong motor.
Factually incorrect... it was not an EH S4..... the S4 was a production of 100.. to make it eligible to race and only this car had four speed gearbox. You don't mention the preceding EJ which still had original side-plate engine. You're correct with about 20% of your podcast. Sorry
The EH S4 and later HR X2 were good cars but not great cars and couldn’t match the Mini Coopers or GT Cortinas of the day at the then Gallagher 500 ( Bathurst). Holden hit its straps with the Awseome 327 CI HK Monaro winning the Hardie Ferodo (Bathurst) 500 in 1968. The 1968 HK was the start of Holdens eventual dominant spells at Mount Panorama, not the EH S4, that I would describe as little more than a toe in the water.
EJ to HK all had special weight reduction built in , they were rust buckets i think the worst was the HD . My first car was a EH had to put new floors and boot into it . For the time they were just ok to drive even by the standards of the day
well that's funny, I have an EH a EJ and a HD and NONE of them are rust buckets, it depended on how you looked after them. I have a mate with 20 odd EJ to HR holdens, and yes, some of them have rust but they're almost 60 years old, and all still drivable, virtually everything from the era rusted regardless of the brand, I''ve owned them all.......
Depends where you lived and how well you looked after them. All cars rusted, depending on price. I've had Mercs and BMWs that rusted away from under me in the tropics.
Yep...the 1000 saw the introduction of 'bathurst' specials where 500 'specials' had to be made suitable for road registration; They were still essentially 'production' cars not like the 'supercars' crap we have today; Bloody yanks killed off yet another Aussie Icon being production motorsports.
GM didn't join forces with Holden, they bought a very large controlling interest in the company, which the bulk of the profits went to Detroit! A major problem with cars from GMH & Ford built in Australia during the first half of the 1960s was that, to keep costs down, some panels like the floor-pans were not as thick as they should have been to be structurally sound. While Ford were worse as they kept building cars with the weak floors to use up stock, I can't remember the derogatory nickname they received!, but Holdens also had so many problems that they would be known for 'just-holden-together'!
No just a column change three speed. I used to think the 4 was four speed but not the case. Of course modifiers would later change the cars way beyond factory specs or as much as allowed in racing rules. A search produced this description : " The Holden EH S4 was fitted with - 3.55 diff ratio, sports shock absorbers, upgraded three-speed manual transmission, heavy-duty clutch, brake booster. " I found no reference to a factory four speed for the EH. The four speeds were a few years later.
@@johnd8892 Correct. No 4 speed in a Holden until the HR 186S. The S4 did well for what it was, considering it was hamstrung by drum brakes, GMs 'no racing' policy and family car basics whereas it's opponents were unabashed racecars with Bathurst in mind.
Lets see... I have owned the EH sedan, HD wagon, HR sedan, LC Torana GTR, 71 HQ GTS and a 73 HQ GTS.. After that is has been Japanese brands for the last 25 years.. I no longer have any of the Holden's and wish I still did. They are worth a mint today...
I had an EH for my first car. My girlfriend at the time had an XL Falcon, same year as my EH but it was a far better car. I have been a Ford person ever since.
Great pity there was no a much more in-depth view to it racing history. I'm sure I read once an S4 doing incredible speed down conrod straight on alcohol while in an open class type of race.
As I understand, it was just the larger 179 motor with the slightly special manual gearbox at the time when all the 179 motors were made with an automatic gearbox for early production of the EH.
@@johnd8892 Enough with the 179 auto stuff mate, I have an early 63 EH wagon, 179 manual, manuals were far more common than auto's in the EJ and EH.... Automatic gearboxes were in their infancy in Australia back then, even my dads EH wagon was manual....
@@brianlove8413 ALL EH's with the 179 had HP blocks, the blocks were nothing special, the steel cranks were sort after later on but the HP didn't mean High Performance like a lot of people think.... I have a couple of HP blocks in the shed...
Would you care to discuss the problems in the early days … No heat riser box below the carburettor on early cars lead to top rings breaking and excessive blow by in low miles A water circuit from the heater circuit to warm the incoming fuel cured this
All EHs had that bloody awfull hotbox under the carb. HR was the first with water through the intake. The only thing that broke top rings apart from age was running on standard petrol. Broke pistons as well. Super only
The footage needs work. Showing a red motor with a supercharger attached and, what was that engine at the 4:35 mark ... no way was that a Holden gearbox attached to a Holden engine. And there's too much flopping around. And the voice over ... why must people use a voice that might be from a robot or is computer generated. Yep, needs work
the slant 6 was a great motor...you just needed to have a 44 Gallon drum of fuel in the boot. The 265 was a great motor too but it was so thirsty you could watch the fuel gauge drop with every gear change...and all the Valiants hated going around corners at the best of times.
The EH was a piece of dangerous junk. The ONLY positive thing to say about it was the red engine was a vast improvement over its noisy oil consuming 'grey' predecessor. A rust bucket, wouldn't drive straight, a savage clutch, and brakes .... what brakes??? Those 4 wheel drums would have it swerving all over the road under heavy breaking. European make cars of the same era with things like rack and pinion steering were VASTLY better. Yes, I owned one at one stage and spent most of my years as a young mechanic working on these things. I also owned an FB, FC, EJ, EH, HR, and still have a VT.
The FX Holden was a poor mans version of the 46 Chevy just as the FB was a poor mans version of the 55 Chevy. Australia always expected junk and we got it. we could have had full size V8 chevys but we were dumb in those days, not alot dumber than we are now though.
I fully agree. The 48 - 215 was based on a rejected post war Chev design. It was designed, engineered and prototyped in Detroit before being shipped to Australia for testing and evaluation. FX, FJ, FE, FC, FB and EK all very obviously based on earlier Chev designs.
Holden had never designed an original car until the VE & VF Commodore. The 215 was a thrown away Pontiac design, EH onwards were all Vauxhall designs, nothing was an original Holden idea- they all came from GM, Isuzu, Vauxhall, Opel, Nissan, Toyota et al
6 S5 Eh Holden's where built to race but were banned as no sales or servicing literature was available cars were given to police departments and two race teams they ran road S4 s in race when documents became available. I know the whereabouts of two S5 s possably 3 these where prepared much better than the road version these are Holden's first factory race cars and even people who know S4s don't know about S5s wilder S22 version twin carb , disc brakes became HD X2 instead of EH👍
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When visiting my uncle in Maryland US in 1970 he had a LHD metallic silver EH Premier station wagon in his garage. He found it abandoned in a GM vehicle park somewhere. Said it was a special build sent over for the World Expo. They were about to scrap it but he was able to buy it. They had left the windows down and the seats had rotted. He got them redone up somehow and the car spent the next few years driving around on the streets of DC.
Good , Have owned EH since 1978.
I’ve owned FJ, EJ, EH, and HR prem. That was when cars had character, they were the best times.
The EJ was horrendously slow. One motor mag gave it a top speed of 79mph. Someone might be able to answer this question - did the slow-shifting hydramatic transmission have 3 or 4 forward gears? Officially 3 but it was said to have a barely detectable ultra low first.
2 speed
@@yasi4877. The Hydra-matic was a TWO Speed . Old school " Slush-Box " . The Tri-Matic was the 3 speed .
@@johncunningham4820 John & Nej: When the EH was first road-tested one of the motor mags, I forget which one, called the Hydramatic a 3 speed with a semi-hidden low first gear making it a 4 speed. I remember because at the time Ford's Fordomatic was a 2 speed and Holden was getting ahead of Ford. The Trimatic came with the HG in 1970. Looking into it futher:
Hydramatic is an automatic transmission developed by GM's Cadillac and Oldsmobile divisions. The EJ/EH shop manual called it a three speed (D-S-L). But the supplement (the big thick black one) lists the Hydramatic as a 4 speed. So it's a 3 speed with four ratios. Another person stated that the only time he ever heard a Hydramatic drop into true 1st was when pulling a caravan uphill from a stationary position.
Another says the factory caused confusion in describing the 3 speed Hydramatic as a 4-S or 4 stage transmission, which implied it was a 4 speed. However, "second" gear is actually first gear minus the torque multiplication, which quickly ceases to multiply seconds after the car starts rolling. This change in ratio on the first speed was achieved by activating a valve and filling and unfilling the torus chamber. Normally you only hear the transmission shift twice, as a three speed would do.
@@yasi4877 . What it REALLY was , was a Two Speed Epicyclic Gearbox , coupled with a Viscous Coupling with a Lockup Function . Four STAGES .
You forgot the EJ series. Same body as the EH but the red engine wasn't ready in time for the EJ so it was introduced the following year in the EH.
Although the EH S4 was made to win at Bathurst, they did poorly in both the 1963 and 1964 Bathurst 500 races. Wheels falling off were a major problem for one thing.
The lighter Ford Cortina GT winning in 63,64 and 65. That was the car Harry Firth chose to run as larger cars were stressing wheels, tyres, fuel and brakes.
Rubbish! The Holden S4 finished second in 1963 and took 5 of the top ten places in its class. Hardly doing poorly against a much higher spec Cortina that had disc brakes and a four speed gearbox as opposed to drum brakes and 3 speed gearboxes in the EHs..
@@amracewaysounds like a bunch of excuses
@@amracewaySure, it was Holden's high performance model, and was still slower then the base model automatic AP5 and AP6 Valiants.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Not at Bathurst.
@@amraceway Everything he said was correct mate....
My first car. 179 EH Auto Premier wagon, bucket seats and metal grey with white roof. Bullet proof.
When I was a teenager, dad got a 1964 EH wagon and I just loved it. Even now, i still see the EH Wagon as the epitome of classic car design, it just seems to be so perfectly balanced and proportional. We got a Zephyr MkIII after that, but I still liked the EH. Dad reckoned teh 179 engine was better than the 186 X2 engine that came out in 1965. Damn, those were the days!
WHAT A REAL BLOODY HOLDEN I HAD A SEDAN AND A STATION WAGON.O.K.
The 179 doing the ton must have given Ford heart failure as they only had the 144 cu.in six in the Falcon. The Pursuit 170 followed; with pursuit and follow being the operative words. The cops had them. One mag had Ford's 170 doing 0-60 in under 11 seconds - hard to believe as that was AP5/6 territory?
In the late 70’s, I had the EH Flintstones Special Wagon version: the floor was rusted out in the back row so passengers could lift the mat and run on the ground for extra power. Also useful for braking.
I had a couple of those.Bad on wet roads!
I had a HK Premier and a HG ute with the same floor mods as your EH; Great on hot days...not so good when there was a bit of Blow By coming out of the breather!
My Dad owned many Austin 10s back in the 70s... they were old then. His favourite was a 1932 model Austin 10 boasting a 10 HP motor... There was an emblem on the back of the front guards saying - Holden Body Works! Yep assembled in SA with parts from the UK.
Who remembers Norm Beechey's S4?
Not me but an old bloke I used to mechanic with worked for him in Shepperton I think I was.
I remember Norm’s S4 very well, saw it several times at Calder Raceway in Melbourne.
Wonder where it is?
Still exist, in a museum somewhere, in private hands? Valuable part of Aussie racing history.
Neptune racing .
@@ianmcleod9088 Yep, the Neptune Racing Team. Norm in the EH, later in the Mustang in 1962 or 63. Peter Manton in the Mini Cooper S and Jim Mkeown in a Lotus Cortina.
Holden never worried too much about rust prevention
Yes, I always thought the FE model should have been named FE2O3.
@frankiejh7510 It was as good as anything else at the time.
Fords had temporary sills all through anything that started with X.
@@jeeves6490 Valiants came standard with rust under the windscreens and in the plenum; the Falcons and Cortinas had not-so optional holes in the boot wells, floors and sills; At least the Holden lasted for a few years before it started rusting.
great car but terrible video, you keep showing the red motor with a supercharger that it never had
Glad you pointed that out. I've had three of these EH S4s and I was thinking, what's that supercharger doing in there, I can't remember mine having one of those... As to the EH itself, they sure were good-looking cars, even if I don't think they were Holden's best, but they were nice to drive and they were everywhere. In later years they were a second-hand car dealer's bread and butter! At one time, when I was living in Darwin, a bunch of yahoos stole my EH during the night and ended up in a creek with it. It was all banged up, but a local farmer dragged it out of the creek for me and I drove it home!
Uses a shitty AI voice too.
Ehs4 never heard of it
My first car was a eh
Worse they portray the red engine as tough. ive built a number of them and i can tell you that they are utter garbage that barely even withstand a 1 to 1 hp to cube ratio. Junk is their name.
BTW, they also showed a gearbox with a jet engine bolted to it lol
@@matton36 The only red motor that’s junk is the 202
my 1st car was an EH, I love them if I ever get a bug to restore a old Holden it would be an EH, I learned my car skills on it I put in hj panel van tail lights in it and was the 1st time I painted a car Aussie 202 and 4 speed, it never had power brakes they didn't show up till HR with a remote booster
S4s had sintered metal linings and a power booster. The booster was a dealer special from at least EK on.
Me too.
I had a panel van undercoat grey 186, 149 head. 090 grind cam,X2 Manifold, extractors, Celica 4 Speed. And three bullet holes in the r/h door and guard.
Called it the CAVE.
Loved it.
@kensutherland414 Ah, yes popular colour 'racing grey' at the drags.
Miss the sound of a hot red motor sometimes.
@@jeeves6490 The coppers loved 'racing grey' cars...they'd pull 'em over any time they saw them for a 'numbers inspection' that sooned turned into the canary book coming out. Arseholes were no fun.
I got my drivers licence in my fathers EH Wagon in the early 1970's. He got the car in 1965, from Smiths of Port Adelaide. It was a 3 on the tree, had heaters. That car went like the bloody clappers. I guess chocolate brown wasn't a popular colour because In summer it was a great joy to lose layers of skin when you sat on the seats. Even seat covers didn't help.
Ah yes...the old chocolate brown vinyl was never good after a day at the beach wearing only thongs and a pair of shorts; The only thing that sort of helped was a wet towel that dried in a matter of minutes; Why Holden continued with that interior colour all the way to the WB ute defies Aussie logic.
My dad purchased an eh 1963 first 149, what a beautiful ute it was,powerful,plenty of get up and go, easy to drive, wasn't sincro in first gear, much easier than the 48 chev ute. Australia 🇦🇺
that was an EJ 1963 not an EH ..
@@patrolmanracv EH was released in August 1963
It was a big event to see the odometer of a grey or red hit 100,000 miles. We would take a photo of it turning over.
Are you the Full QUID ? jeff jeff.
@@darrylmackie9184 Are you an a-hole? at the time it was a milestone for the old holdens to hit 100k miles, you're obviously not old enough to know.....
Even I had 100,000 miles on my EH. With the 149 motor. Then the odometer stopped working, so I really didn't know how many miles were on it when I sold it in 1975. I suspect this is just trash talking. There must have been tens of thousands of EHs which got over 100000 miles: probably the majority.
I had an EH station wagon, best car I ever had, bar none.
I was driving behind a beautifully restored EH wagon a few months ago, it looked better than new, little old lady driving it.
I was gobsmacked by how small it was in comparison to what we've become used to.
But I don't remember ever thinking it was a smaller car back in the day.
As above.
I made the comment above but I'll post again just for you...i'd rather an EH any day...preferably a Wagon; 179HP with twin Strombergs and a Syncro 3 (Speco) speed on the floor; Extractors and a Two inch exhaust; Lowered just a little; Sky blue with white roof; Dragway mags; Doe Skin Premier interior; S4 gauges and a 14 inch SAAS steering wheel...please sir, can I have one?
The EH S4 was an interesting car. With huge problems for racing. How they kept a gearbox in them was a mystery. Some cheating I feel sure. Then the front hubs and stubs were quite weak and they tore the centres out of the wheels.
As a road car apart from the terrible gearbox they [for the time] went well, handled well and stopped,, well ok., I owned an S4 from 72-75 and it was given a hard time. Gearbox was replaced with a later model 3 speed all synchro which stopped gearboxes exploding. In actual fact the FJ gearbox had the same internals in a stronger case. With just over half the horsepower and mine was mildly modded. My big tank EH ended up only holding about half a gallon more than the std one. Bottom was pushed in bad
EHs came originally with 149 red, soon aftr 179 with power sapping hydramatic. Then the S4 with a rehashed 149 box. After that all 179EHs had that gearbox. As well as HD HR and many HKs.
Subsequently I have owned a dozen plus EHs,, a couple of fairly nice ones, a sedan and EH van. I was given an EH wagon that I drag raced the following day! High 18s!
From memory, I think the race versions had gearboxes modified from Speco (Melbourne) that gave the 3 speed a Synchro 1st and taller 3rd; again from memory but I think the mod also included a fine-spline output shaft so it could carry a thicker tail shaft yoke.....Scrutineering wasn't as rigorous back then and no marshal wanted to get on his back to check under the cars; shame they didn't do anything about the front hubs and wheel studs; I think even the Cortinas had thicker stub axles and studs...
@@ldnwholesale8552 Not right!! EH was released 1964, not 1963. EH Standard came only with 149 engine manual trans no auto. EH Special had choice between 149 or 179. All 149's were manual trans only. 179 engine offered manual or auto trans. Premiers were all 179 with auto trans only, no manual.
I remembered bouncing around in the back no seat belts on in mum and dad's second hand eh i even got a drive in dads lap accasionally
The old man worked at Holden (R&D) and my uncle, both started at SAR.
First brand new car we had was a EH Wagon, good bus, but rusty (they left the steel outside, acc to the old man)..
The HR was better, esp the X2 Prem.
The HR was a vastly better car. With disk brakes at least it could stop straight. Excessively light rear suspension (springs and shocks) was its biggest design flaw.
The 48 - 215 (FX) was based on a rejected post war Chev design, and was designed, engineered and prototyped in Detroit before being shipped to Australia for testing and evaluation.
All Holdens from 1948 to 64 were scaled down Chevies either of the same year or 3 years after like FB/EK -> 1957 Chevy. After 1965, the resemblance wasnt so noticeable.
@@wizzard5442
That's true.
There was only around 120 of the S4s made
They were an experimental exercise at best …
The brake upgrade was a bigger return spring ….
You carry on about the S4 like it was a big thing …
Yes not really a big upgrade.
I found from a search :
"The Holden EH S4 was fitted with - 3.55 diff ratio, sports shock absorbers, upgraded three-speed manual transmission, heavy-duty clutch, brake booster. "
It's not a big thing now, but back in 63 it was definitely a big thing....
EH S4 had sintered metal linings and a power booster and wider front drums. The improved gerabox was still crap, upgraded clutch bigger than the 149 one. They had a bigger fuel tank. Plus ofcourse they were the first 179 manual EHs. Before that they were all 149s with manual.
@@johnd8892 The diff centre was supposed to be better material. To me the same as all EHs. most had 3.55s. Shocks were std. Read the S4 supplement for the EH workshop manual.
@@ldnwholesale8552 They also had a small tacho...when first available,the 179 was only with the Auto box,because the original manual wasn't strong enough...after the S4,it was thenavailable
Re the bathurst 500 & 1000. It used to be a 500 mile race, it's now a 1000 kilometre race.
That AI narration really bugged me the second time I watched it.
Actually do remember seeing a heavily worked brown EH Holden blow away everything else on the track at a club event at the now long gone Lakeside track to the north of Brisbane. Some young unknown called Dick Johnson was the driver.
This is obviously AI generated. Keeps repeating the same phrases over and over and seems to be full of poor quality photos and videos lifted from somewhere else.
The Voice sounds like Real Person to me . Also got the Facts Right . Kinda rare that .
I don't really think there is much " NEW FOOTAGE " of EH Holden's to be had these days .
You don't like it ? Do your Own Review then . Show us ALL how it's done .
agreed. never saw the blown "red motor" in any EH
Commenting to say i agree, clearly is a ai generated script read by a ai generated voice with a overlay first result images and videos being selected and upscaled by ai.
All probably autonomously being created by a program that some dude wrote
@@ZoomStranger Really ?
How unfortunate . I Have .
A Show car obviously , but Red Motors could definitely be built strong enough for a Blower .
The 1963 model Holden was the EJ and was different in the grill and boot/tail light areas. It had a grey side valve motor of about 124 cubic inches. Your statements with the shown 1964 EH models is correct with the same basic body shell as the EJ but with the red motor in 149 and 179 cubic inch motors. I have owned several of each.
The grey motor was not a side valve. No way I owned one.
I think you're a bit confused.
The Holden Grey motor is often referred to as the "Holden side plate" motor.
No Holden had a side valve engine.
It was commonly , known as 138 in.³ side plate grey motor also head only four main bearing crankshaft looked a bit like 215 cubic Chevrolet engine just smaller capacity and smaller overall dimensions
Yeah, shots of EJ's with that crappy grey motor being touted as EHs. EJ and EH grilles and bonnets were different.
@3:51 time stamp . Look at the holders red . It’s got a blower on it . 😂
Holden eventually moved to a black engine to hide the oil leaks.
You Obviously couldn't Afford one, so the VW was your option.
The LAST iteration of the holden six was the black engine, that's 30 years of success you knob. It's obvious you never had any Holden sixes, your comment is laughable garbage, and I'm not even a Holden guy, but i'm old enough to know better....
yawn. Nah it was because red oil was no longer available
Must have been some collaboration between Aussie and UK GM designers of the Holden and some Vauxhall models as the similarly stands out.
Yep...Vauxhall, GMH and GM all had the same styling cues with subtle little 'bolt on' changes
The EH model came with two engine sizes. 149 and 179. Both with a seven bearing crackshaft. You seemed to forgot to mention. Only main problem was first gear didn't have synchromesh. Must have been too difficult for GMH.
My first car, the mighty EH. I loved that car, good times 18 years of age. Oh and that back seat got a work out🎉
Yeah you and your hand sicko.
A mate had an EH wagon going rusty in his yard. He was going to restore it until the Black Summer bushfires ended that hope!
Love The EH, one of the best cars ever
Destroyed everything?
Fords 1.5 litre Cortina GT beat it at Bathurst every time.
Purpose built race-car vs. A family hack.
Don't see any Cortina GTs around but see plenty of EHs.
@gone547 Cortina GT was a standard production model, no extra mids at all. If it was better on the track it was just better. The later GT500 was a modified special but it met the requirements of limited production at the time.
It’s called power to weight ratio. Why can’t ford heads ever compare apples to apples?😂
@@awp1958 Lighter car with less fuel stops and less brake fade...I note you're not mentioning the Lotus running gear...
@@markhills3922 what Lotus running gear? It did not have the twin cam.
Congratulations on a great program. I'll be looking for more of these. But I must take issue with a couple of points you make. The S4 was no faster than any other 179 engine EH Holden. The only engine mods related, as you quite correctly stated, to strengthening the engine's bottom end. Improved brakes and slightly larger fuel tank were good. But of very modest value against its competitors. Secondly, there is a pervasive belief that the EH was the "great step forward" for Holden's cars. Sure, the engines used in ALL of the EH models were much better than the "grey" motor it replaced, but I don't believe that was anything like the great step made with the next model: the HD. With the HD, Holden offered power steering, power assisted front disc brakes and an enhanced engine called the X2. This had genuinely more horsepower than the HD's standard engines due to an improved head, twin throat carb, headers and I think an improved cam. It also had a more flow-through exhaust system. Not sure, but I've hear you could also order a four speed floor shift. None of these were available in the EH. Nonetheless, the EH was and remains a great car with timeless styling and hordes of fans.
no 4 speed floor shift. They came out of later cars if they ever went in at all otherwise a speco floor shifter did the job.
In 63 a 179 was auto and a manual was 149. The s4 was a 179 manual plus the extras you mentioned. Think they came out in 4 colours Winton red and Fowlers ivory roof. There was a dark blue and white too not sure of he other colours. In 64 the 179 was manual as standard and auto as an option. My mum had the 179 manual but not S4. Nod not sure weather the s4 had a different body code. As a special was EH-225. the second 2 meaning special and the 5 meaning sedan and so on 235 prem 215 standard I think 214 taxi but the 179 had a steel crank in the HP block as the HD had 179 on the block.
Nope, you could get manual in both 179 and 149, in fact, most were manuals, they also came out in over 30 colours. Google EH paint codes.... I have an EH wagon , a EJ ute and a HD holden ute. The EH wagon is a 1963 179 manual, all original , Morwell Grey and fowlers Ivory roof....
@@MickH60 we’re talking 63.
By 64 the option was open.
Eh was all colours. But I was talking about the S4 wasn’t many colours.
And I’m not sure if I ever seen a 149 auto
@@MickH60 off the net
The 179 manual option was not available until April 1964. Other new models were also introduced. They were the Premier wagon, and the limited edition S4 model. The S4 was introduced in September 1963.
EH and HD X2 cranks wee steel. After that they were cast. And seldom ever caused an issue. Even on 202s. Which had bad viabrations. People have turned them 7000 rpm plus for the last 60 years!
0:56 the Holden fell apart on Redex Round Australia Trials. The cars had American suspension that fell apart. Peugeot were the car Holden thought they were.
True that; Even the Citroen was a stronger car in the early Redex Trials days....so was the VW but they weren't a Holden 6 screaming at 90MPH were they?
@@markhills3922 VW and Peugeot were the main winners in the 50s. It wasn't till1980 that Holden won and that was a heavily backed team with the biggest budget
@@Chapps1941 I am aware of that and you'll get no argument from me about the money 'HDT' put into the Redex Trials wins; apart from VW and Peugeot winning everything (as well as the early BMC minis), the Citroens were a reliable finisher every time; Still, none of them sounded as good as a worked Holden 6 belting along at 90mph over dirt roads...
It was & will always be a great car
Holden really got the shape RIGHT on the EJ-EH series. One of the BEST looking cars ever built in Australia. Then they f**ked it up again with the GHASTLY looking HR.
Highly Raceables looked good, Highly Dangerous though were more subjective
HEY ,Hey, The HR was one of the best utes I have ever owned, never ever broke down even though the motor was stuffed, it just kept going !
I agree....and the HD HR handled like bathtubs in a speedboat race. The EJ-EH might of been stiff on the smaller bumps (less refined they said) but at least it went around corners without scraping the chrome off the door handles.
Great roofline on the EH. And I'm not even a Holden fan. Credit where credit is due.
May I suggest that you track down and buy Australian Muscle Car magazines in-depth article released several years ago now.
If you are interested in Aussie cars you should check out the HD LX2
There is no such thing as a HD LX2, it's a HD X2, there was a HR X2 as well , until they changed to the 186s later on in the production of the HR..
The HD X2 twin carb 179 and 3 speed transmission the HR x2 was a twin carb 186 and I think had a 4 speed that part I might be wrong but yeah i do know they had the same twin single barrel down draft carburetors just different engine sizes and also came standard with disc brakes. The same twin carb set up used on the early LC toranas with a 186
@@brentmeredith5295 The original HR had an X2 option...was later changed to 186S...then the 4sp Opel box was an option...and disc brakes
@@AlanBrazil-ox2fr The X2 HR was fitted with Twin Downdraught Strombergs, a 'special' inlet manifold and Factory 2 piece headers if I remember correctly; Yes 4sp Opel 'crash' box and Disc brakes for the first time; Also had a thicker sway bar and stiffer springs which the HR was in real need of.
Mate had an S4 EH back in the 70s - had a hot 186 in it & went bloody well. Used to supprise a few V8's in the day.
- sadly it rusted away to oblivion.
The computer voice over spoiled this for me 🤬
I had an EH wagon that was on another level and the smoothest riding car I've ever had the pleasure of driving. Silly me, had a few beers and f$%k&d it up. I cried.
The Eh series is in fact 1964
How can tell if you got an S4?
I know a guy down the street who has a mint condition S4 that was on the mountain as part of the SV team in 1963. Only 14 S4s are know to still exist.
Back in my youth a mate had an EH, and it had a factory "grey" motor from the EJ series how it passed QC I dont know.
The EH Holden 179 was the first Australian home-built car that could reach 100 mp
Average video with very little actual facts.
The S4 isn’t lost, and it’s not really a legend considering Mini’s and Cortina’s were just as competitive as it, and it didn’t ‘destroy’ everyone.
I also don’t know why you have to repeat yourself 4 times. All your points you said multiple times in different ways. We get it had a 3 speed, a brake upgrade and a bigger fuel tank the first time.
There was no mention at all on its racing results, who drove one or anything like that.
You kept showing a 179 with a supercharger and Holley carb on it, that’s nothing Holden ever built, and it was definitely not a 60’s built motor. It was more like a motor built 20yrs ago or so.
Disappointing. A 6min video with 1mins of information, and 5mins of the same cars driving and the wrong motor.
This certainly feels like it has been made entirely by AI
Let me explain........
Factually incorrect... it was not an EH S4..... the S4 was a production of 100.. to make it eligible to race and only this car had four speed gearbox. You don't mention the preceding EJ which still had original side-plate engine. You're correct with about 20% of your podcast. Sorry
Stronger nodular iron diff was an upgrade for the S4 as well
Ai generated video,
With instructions from someone who knows just a bit less than S.F.A about the Australian automotive industry !
Never stopped repairing them back then. Eventually the rust best them. Nostalgia, that's all.
The EH S4 and later HR X2 were good cars but not great cars and couldn’t match the Mini Coopers or GT Cortinas of the day at the then Gallagher 500 ( Bathurst). Holden hit its straps with the Awseome 327 CI HK Monaro winning the Hardie Ferodo (Bathurst) 500 in 1968. The 1968 HK was the start of Holdens eventual dominant spells at Mount Panorama, not the EH S4, that I would describe as little more than a toe in the water.
*Armstrong 500. Gallaher was not the sponsor until 1966/67, then Hardie-Ferodo after that.
A friend of mine had a HD X2 station wagon that had all the X2 special trim and the old 4 speed opel gearbox it was a very good motorcar
@@garyjones8556 The HR had the 4sp Opel box as an option...and with the 186S engine...not the HD X2
The HD was not a good car.
there were only 150 EH4 holdens made. and most were bought and used for racing. but any backyard mechanic could with a few mods make a lot faster car
EJ to HK all had special weight reduction built in , they were rust buckets i think the worst was the HD . My first car was a EH had to put new floors and boot into it . For the time they were just ok to drive even by the standards of the day
Yeah nobody says that. Had a HT literally rusted away. Drove like a yacht
well that's funny, I have an EH a EJ and a HD and NONE of them are rust buckets, it depended on how you looked after them. I have a mate with 20 odd EJ to HR holdens, and yes, some of them have rust but they're almost 60 years old, and all still drivable, virtually everything from the era rusted regardless of the brand, I''ve owned them all.......
Depends where you lived and how well you looked after them. All cars rusted, depending on price. I've had Mercs and BMWs that rusted away from under me in the tropics.
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The Bathurst 500 and the Bathurst 1000 are 2 different races.
Yep...the 1000 saw the introduction of 'bathurst' specials where 500 'specials' had to be made suitable for road registration; They were still essentially 'production' cars not like the 'supercars' crap we have today; Bloody yanks killed off yet another Aussie Icon being production motorsports.
I had anEH 179 hp 3 on the tree amazing car,, swapped it for a slab ofVB ,,,,
GM didn't join forces with Holden, they bought a very large controlling interest in the company, which the bulk of the profits went to Detroit!
A major problem with cars from GMH & Ford built in Australia during the first half of the 1960s was that, to keep costs down, some panels like the floor-pans were not as thick as they should have been to be structurally sound. While Ford were worse as they kept building cars with the weak floors to use up stock, I can't remember the derogatory nickname they received!, but Holdens also had so many problems that they would be known for 'just-holden-together'!
Built to a price, not a standard.
EH Ute is in my dream garage
My first car was an EH, 45 years ago.
It Still couldn't touch a Valiant 225
The reason it was called the S4 is because it had a 4 speed gearbox not a 3 speed as stated in the video
No just a column change three speed.
I used to think the 4 was four speed but not the case. Of course modifiers would later change the cars way beyond factory specs or as much as allowed in racing rules.
A search produced this description :
" The Holden EH S4 was fitted with - 3.55 diff ratio, sports shock absorbers, upgraded three-speed manual transmission, heavy-duty clutch, brake booster. "
I found no reference to a factory four speed for the EH. The four speeds were a few years later.
@@johnd8892 Correct.
No 4 speed in a Holden until the HR 186S.
The S4 did well for what it was, considering it was hamstrung by drum brakes, GMs 'no racing' policy and family car basics whereas it's opponents were unabashed racecars with Bathurst in mind.
NO EH ever had a 4 speed from the factory....
@@gone547 I said the EH S4 was a three speed column change and not a four speed.
No 4 speed but the 3 speed in the S4 was stronger than the box in the 149.
good old days the only thing they were new when i was young 😱😁😂😂
The first Holden was officially called the 48/215 not the FX.
Correct.
He said that.
I Love car used for Racing
the eh brakes were deadly...drum brakes on the front were largely innefectual, and when power boosted simply locked the wheels up
Lets see... I have owned the EH sedan, HD wagon, HR sedan, LC Torana GTR, 71 HQ GTS and a 73 HQ GTS.. After that is has been Japanese brands for the last 25 years..
I no longer have any of the Holden's and wish I still did. They are worth a mint today...
I had an EH for my first car. My girlfriend at the time had an XL Falcon, same year as my EH but it was a far better car. I have been a Ford person ever since.
And no air conditioning in one of the world's hottest places.
Even a heater was an option!
Great pity there was no a much more in-depth view to it racing history. I'm sure I read once an S4 doing incredible speed down conrod straight on alcohol while in an open class type of race.
I tried to dug more deep but Couldn't find much more info of it.
Road arcing has always been petrol. And a Stromberg simply would not run on methanol
It would be great if you got your facts right, between EK and eh was the EJ.
No photo of an S4 engine?
As I understand, it was just the larger 179 motor with the slightly special manual gearbox at the time when all the 179 motors were made with an automatic gearbox for early production of the EH.
@@johnd8892 s4 had engine updates like HD then HR 186s etc
@@johnd8892 It would have had the HP block, maybe a different cam.
@@johnd8892 Enough with the 179 auto stuff mate, I have an early 63 EH wagon, 179 manual, manuals were far more common than auto's in the EJ and EH.... Automatic gearboxes were in their infancy in Australia back then, even my dads EH wagon was manual....
@@brianlove8413 ALL EH's with the 179 had HP blocks, the blocks were nothing special, the steel cranks were sort after later on but the HP didn't mean High Performance like a lot of people think.... I have a couple of HP blocks in the shed...
Would you care to discuss the problems in the early days …
No heat riser box below the carburettor on early cars lead to top rings breaking and excessive blow by in low miles
A water circuit from the heater circuit to warm the incoming fuel cured this
All EHs had that bloody awfull hotbox under the carb. HR was the first with water through the intake.
The only thing that broke top rings apart from age was running on standard petrol. Broke pistons as well. Super only
The footage needs work. Showing a red motor with a supercharger attached and, what was that engine at the 4:35 mark ... no way was that a Holden gearbox attached to a Holden engine. And there's too much flopping around. And the voice over ... why must people use a voice that might be from a robot or is computer generated. Yep, needs work
4:35.
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think a gas turbine engine upgrade was on the EH Holden options list.
@@Rob-fc9wg It could be the secret squirrel EH engine that never got out of the factory, a concept engine perhaps 😂
@@TheHandymanQld
You may be on to something here!
They were a shit underpowered car even as an S4
The local valiant with a slant 6 was significantly faster
They were not shit,the Val’s had more cubes. Stock the reds put out more hp per cid. Didn’t see no charger win Bathurst 😂…Nocar rules 🎉😂
the slant 6 was a great motor...you just needed to have a 44 Gallon drum of fuel in the boot. The 265 was a great motor too but it was so thirsty you could watch the fuel gauge drop with every gear change...and all the Valiants hated going around corners at the best of times.
The mighty EH.
Holden straight sixes were all shit the Chrysler sixes could absolutely shit over them without even trying
Loved the AP5 Valiant, when the lights turned green, like you said, the Val would shit all over the other cars.
Maybe stock definitely not modified, my HR destroyed a truck load of Coburg Cadillacs around Dandenong and at Calder Park back in the day 😂🎉👌
Not well researched.
I have blue model , little car that dad gave me for a present
it's the weirdest thing to hear US citizens talking about Australian cars
That's not a US citizen, it's a computer.
EJ Model didn't rate a mention
Faarrk me,how many times can you repeat yourself????
Obviously written for Americans repeat repeat repeat
The EH was a piece of dangerous junk. The ONLY positive thing to say about it was the red engine was a vast improvement over its noisy oil consuming 'grey' predecessor.
A rust bucket, wouldn't drive straight, a savage clutch, and brakes .... what brakes??? Those 4 wheel drums would have it swerving all over the road under heavy breaking.
European make cars of the same era with things like rack and pinion steering were VASTLY better.
Yes, I owned one at one stage and spent most of my years as a young mechanic working on these things. I also owned an FB, FC, EJ, EH, HR, and still have a VT.
The FX Holden was a poor mans version of the 46 Chevy just as the FB was a poor mans version of the 55 Chevy. Australia always expected junk and we got it. we could have had full size V8 chevys but we were dumb in those days, not alot dumber than we are now though.
I fully agree.
The 48 - 215 was based on a rejected post war Chev design.
It was designed, engineered and prototyped in Detroit before being shipped to Australia for testing and evaluation.
FX, FJ, FE, FC, FB and EK all very obviously based on earlier Chev designs.
Aussie Fairlanes please.
Its a pity the info isnt brilliant s4 shiny paint really yes brakes tank gearbox but a lot of EHs had 179s
Holden had never designed an original car until the VE & VF Commodore.
The 215 was a thrown away Pontiac design, EH onwards were all Vauxhall designs, nothing was an original Holden idea- they all came from GM, Isuzu, Vauxhall, Opel, Nissan, Toyota et al
No mention of the FJ or young Normy!!!
Yes lacked real info like why is it a EH special.first car with a radio... and it was inclusted with a diamond from lightning Ridge...
6 S5 Eh Holden's where built to race but were banned as no sales or servicing literature was available cars were given to police departments and two race teams they ran road S4 s in race when documents became available. I know the whereabouts of two S5 s possably 3 these where prepared much better than the road version these are Holden's first factory race cars and even people who know S4s don't know about S5s wilder S22 version twin carb , disc brakes became HD X2 instead of EH👍
Football , Meat Pies , Kangaroos and HOLDEN CARS............
Holden could have built cars without General Motors......
They were a Good car But they didnt beat Very Much at all!
Why all four doors?