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Leon Marchand is doing things at the 2024 Men's NCAA Swimming & Diving Championships in Indianapolis Indiana that shouldn't be humanly possible. They just shouldn't be. But he's doing them. I don't understand. And I'm guessing a lot of you don't understand how it's possible to go 4:02 in a 500 yard freestyle either. Let's talk about it though.
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Gretchen Walsh 47 100 fly is more impressive
Pinning this to cause chaos
Over the course of the past 29 years the record in the 500 dropped 2 seconds. Leon just made 2x that amount of progress in the span of a month.
However that 47 is too impressive
I respect your incorrect opinion
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I think Dressel’s 50 free record might be one of if not the best NCAA record there is, his 17.63 was almost perfection and no one has come close to that in 6 years
Only time remotely close has been Jordan Crooks' 17.93 from 2023 SEC's
I think his record shattering swim in the 500y free will spawn a new generation of distance swimmers who will not be lazy with their walls and underwaters (like 99% of the distance swimmers currently).
Bro did us dirty with this comment lol. Very true tho
People need to stop treating the 500 like a distance event and treat us as mid distance, approaching it more like a 200. Underwaters can really burn out the legs in an event like the mile or 1000 but at an elite level the 500 is too short or a race to not kick UW off of each wall
@@splatman3589 idk man it might not happen for a few decades, but one day, someone will swim the 1650 with maxed out underwaters on every length and they'll go like a 13:00.00
CALL THEM OUT
@@greggassen5548 12 minutes
this one was more geared towards the swim nerds, hope y'all liked it 🙏
Thank you!!!
I can take more like this!
I love how you slowly lose you sanity throughout this video
6:15 Bro, I don’t think you have casual fans, we are all swimming nerds. Thanks for everything Kyle!
You'd be surprised, these videos are getting pushed out pretty aggressively by the almighty UA-cam algorithm.
@@Sockwell I meant that we are all becoming swimming nerds and passionate about the sport because of you 🤧
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Records Leon could break
100 breastroke
200 fly
100 back
200 back
1000 free
1650 free
He could rebreak
200 breast
200 free
500 free
200 I’m
400 I’m
And he could maybe get
100 free ( underwaters)
100 fly (42.8 is crazy not to mention liendo tonight)
And if he really tried he could train sprint and go 17.5 somehow
yup
NCAA Record List...
200 free
500 free
1000 free
100 breast
200 breast
200 fly
200 back
200 im
400 im
When would he get a chance to swim the 1000 tapered to?
@@greggassen5548he could get it untapered
WOOOO 1650
@@billybob6604 ??
Go ahead and add 100 free to that list to
According to the conversion tool on SwimSwam, 4:02:31 in the 500y free converts to 3:36:26 in the 400m long course. That's nearly 4 seconds faster than the WR from the superset era. Now, I don't think Leon would swim a 3:36 but he has to be a challenge to that WR at some point in the near future.
Maybe but his underwaters really made that 500 so it’s hard to know
I must agree with you here. Even going back to the 1980‘s, I can’t remember any performance that was so mind boggling as this one. Sure, for the era there were some big moments and drops of records and barriers, but to cut an own best time a few weeks old by almost four seconds is out of this world! I can’t wait to see Leon in Paris! I swam against his father back in the days…
That’s so cool! When did you swim against his father?
Natalie couglin won the 100bk by over 3 seconds
I meannnnnn Tom Dolan went 4:08 in the 500 in a speedo in 1995, that’s pretty comparable with Marchand imo given the time
6 seconds is an eternity in swimming.
This is a good take. A 4:08 almost 30 years ago would've still been 4th place this year. It would've won by 2 seconds in 2013. It would've won in 2009 against the rubber suits by a hair.
@@ruskchadwell, the 400m free has kind of been the US’’ Achilles heel for all these years.
Many have said that Marchand "flies and dies", but I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't think I've ever seen Marchand truly die in a race. He really only takes this approach in SCY. In LCM, his races are more evenly split.
I think we have this idea in swimming that if you're going to go a certain time there's a "right" way to split it. I've been guilty of this myself. But with the exception of some outliers (Michael Andrew falling apart at the end of a 200 IM), maybe we need to let go of this idea. Could Marchand have closed faster if he backed off the first half? Of course. But would his final time have been faster? That's all that really matters, and I'm not sure that it would've been faster.
Marchand has that unique mix of "easy" speed and amazing endurance. He can take races out (again, at least in SCY) faster than everyone else and then close them about the same or even faster. To me, averaging < 50 seconds per 100 for the last 300 after going out in 1:33 to the feet is "just" coming home like everyone else after going out like an effing rocket. We have this idea that "well, but a 4:02 500 freestyler should be able to come home faster than 50.01," and maybe a "classic" middle distance freestyler should. Meanwhile, Marchand is leaving such folks in the dust.
As you mentioned, we even think there's a right breathing pattern. Just like the pacing strategy, the extra breathing makes a ton of sense if you view this from an optimization perspective. He could choose not to breathe as much, but he couldn't stay under water as long. It's probably better for him to get the extra oxygen so that he can stay under for that much longer. If Bowman thought he shouldn't breathe as much, I'm sure he'd set Marchand straight.
Even if you think Marchand flies and "dies", it takes balls to take a 500 free out in 1:33 to the feet knowing you aren't even half way done, and I respect that.
I'm pretty sure that the splits in SCY for Marchand wary by the turns quality, especially on freestyle. If he gets legs on the wall, squares up and pushes off into the best angle then he stays longer under and just slices through. On long-course there are fewer turns and they make much less percentage of the distance, so stroke itself will end-up evening out the differences in the turns quality.
Real big fan of this take
List for records Leon could break:
All of them
Except the 50 FR. The only weakness he has is short twitch agility
Bro put all his stat points into distance 😮
leon looks so devious in the thumbnail
Your lookin devious too rn 😈
So he’s now the fastest performer in history by four full seconds…
Personally I put Leon’s 500 as impressive for men along with Dressel’s 17.6 because at the time he was swimming, with no competition even close to him, the concept of breaking just 19 seconds was still a barrier not many were breaking. And even now with more and more training being geared to the 50 and swimmers being trained only for the 50 free, still no one is close to that record besides Crooks(barely) and now Liendo.
I also think Leon’s 4 IM record is still the most insane NCAA record for men because the swimmer and versatility you need to accomplish what he did last year in that event is mind blowing and requires an unbelievable amount of training to be that good at all strokes to put that race together.
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Genuinely think the only ones he couldn’t get are the 50 and 1650 free, maybe not the 100 free too (I think he could potentially get it) and 100 fly. This dude does not make sense. Broken the rules of swimmijg
I almost…ALMOST mentioned what his mile time might be but I just have no clue
I'd like to see him lead off the 400 free relay tomorrow. He was 40.9 at PAC-12s and he is clearly faster at this meet.
Was waiting for this!!
His 400IM tonight will be the most impressive swim ever 😂
I really have no idea if he's going to be similar to his 3:28 from last year, or if he'll do something ridiculous like 3:25 or 3:26. What are you predicting?
nah hes gonna go like 3:30
This aged poorly
@@splatman3589 I know right? I guess he didn’t feel like trying as to save for the relay 🤷🏽♂️
@@DannyPimienta I’ll have to watch it again, but just like at PAC-12s, I think he had barely any kick on free, and usually Marchand has a monster kick. I’m sure he’s tired, but visually it didn’t look like a 100% max effort.
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List of Marchand Records:
100 free (I think he could edge this one out)
200 free (already has it)
500 free (already has it)
100 back (insane underwaters will get him there)
200 back (same as above)
100 breast (fastest relay split ever already)
200 breast (already has it)
200 fly (he would crush this one, could probably go a 1:34, coming from Herbie)
200 IM (already has it)
400 IM (already has it)
He could probably be around 18 mid 50 free. I’m not sure he could break the mile record but I’m not too confident in that. The 100 fly I could go either way on, but I’m not sure about his fly speed so I say he would get close but not quite get it.
We need to have a 14 day NCAA championship to test this out!
This comment was fun to read. Well done.
Before this week, I floated 3:59 around as a funny "what-if" possibility that was just based on silly math and not much else. After this week, I'm considering 3:59 as a serious possibility.
I'm here because I love Leon even more than I hate yards
As someone who barrly broke 5 minutes ( as strictly a high school swimmer) thats nuts. His 400 split would have placed 7th in the womens 400 free relay. And he still had another 100 to go. So yeah craziest swim ever.
This race was a paradigm shift in the sport swimming. It will have the same impact on swimming that Roger Bannister had in track when he broke the four minute mile.
leon's potential record list:
100 free
200 free
500 free
1000 free
100 breast
200 breast
200 fly
100 back
200 back
200 IM
400 IM
He is amazing but the 100s are not happening. He's not a sprinter.
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Here's my list of records I think Leon could NOT break:
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how dare you
How dare you say how dare you
@@p3rcy_722 how dare you say how dare you to my how dare you
First time I’ve ever seen the 500 as a sprint
i have no clue about scy
all of this is kinda hard to get but i think as soon Leon goes to a scm meter pool tapered we (ppl who dont really know scy) will see what this means.
I think Leon doesnt even understand himself what he is accomplishing right now because in France there are no yard pools aswell. So all this yard stuff was pretty distant before his time in america
If he gets to slam a taper on a SCM world champs, records will fall.
I've watched this race at least 20 times already.
You're not alone.
LET HIM COOK 😮💨
Seems like any freestyle race he goes into, the new meta is to dolphin kick half laps 😂
Do we dare claim Leon as the greatest college swimmer of all time?!?!?!
If this was a 7 day meet he could win almost all of the events.
Terrifying that this is pretty close to the truth
I wish we had SCY in Australia aswell.
Back in the day, Matt Biondi's American record in the 200 free was a 1:33.03. Marchand basically hit that at his feet to take out his 500. That's just nuts.
I think it’s much easier to list the events that he could NOT get the record in:
-50 free
-100 back
-100 fly
And the 1 back and 1 fly he could prolly get with the right event-specific training.
I had a 5:23 in high school and thought I was decent and then he’s a minute and 21 seconds faster than me…
hes probably gonna have it in everything except for the thousand, mile, 50 fr, 1 fly, and 1 back and 2 back
is it good dropt 10 seconds faster on the 400 free form two weeks
Honestly if he dedicated training to each of the events I think he gets every single one except maybe the 50 free
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Your comment about people not noticing the two 18.0s in the 50 due to Marchand's 500 reminded me of a quote from Prefontaine (or was it Without Limits?) that went something like:
Bill: You'll be running in the 3 mile for the team, rube.
Pre: Nobody cares about the 3 mile.
Bill: Give them a reason to care.
I know someone who is 16 and their 50 METRE free is 24 seconds. Now THAT is impressive
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Luka Mijatovic has the potential to break this record 😅
I feel like it has to be just barely above dressel’s 50 free because if u think about it that 17.63 might be beatin before that 4:02
Leon Marchand record list:
100 free: 39.8 I think he has in him
200 free: 1:28.2 just based on that 500
500: next year he’s going 3:59 no way around it
100 back: 42.9 UNDIES
200 back: 1:35.0 more undies
100 breast: 48.99 I mean. 48.73 off a relay start. That’s all I have to say
200 breast: 1:45.XX if he’s goes 48 off a relay 100 breast, what can he do when he’s swimming a distance that he’s more comfortable with
200 fly: 1:34, he’d kill that ncaa record if he swam it.
200IM: yk im not sure if 1:36.34 will ever be beat, even by Marchand.
400IM: 3:25.XX if he doesn’t save for the medley relay then yeah he could break the 4 too
Overall, I think he could get close to every record, that 500 and IM records though are just not human. Marchand is an alien
He took more time off the record than the last 20+ years have.
I think 4:02.30 is more impressive than 4:02.31...thats just my opinion tho :)
…maybe by a little bit
I personally think 4:02.31 is better because it’s the higher score
he could hold every record in NCAA
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It is the most impressive of all time considering how fast he went for how long.
Leon is better than phelps and is the best ncaa swimmer ever
Yes, he is but Phelps had an amazing longevity and ability to win close races. Also, Phelps being American got a lot of gold medals from the relays. So, Leon will likely end up as the GOAT but will not match Phelps' record for the number of olympic gold medals.
@@sylvainguinepain5624 your right about the medals cuz USA has a better relay team but he proubly will be the GOAT of individual events but i agree
Leon’s first 250 split is faster then my 200 free 😭
I don’t know if it’s “more” impressive, but Luke Hobson snatching back his 2 Free record is fairly impressive, given that he snatched it back from none other than Sir Leon himself.
Calling this 500 free as the GOAT swim after what GW did last week, and what Leon and KD did last year is WILD - not saying it’s wrong, it’s just that there’s been so many crazy swims lately
I think it’s insane how he almost went sub 50 for all 100s
It's really tough to compare, but Natalie Coughlin dropping a 49.97 in the 100 Back in 2002 has to be up there as the most impressive. No one else even broke 53...
My top 5 list (limiting to 1 per swimmer) probably looks like:
1. Natalie Coughlin - 49.97
2. Leon Marchand - 4:02.31
3. Caeleb Dressel - 17.63
4. Gretchen Walsh - 47.42
5. Kate Douglass - 1:48.37
I'm still on Dressel's 39.90 as better, just for crossing the milestone.
Once 4:00 is broken, then that will be the greatest.
As a sub-6 minute 500 freestyler, let me tell you...
converts to 3"36'26 lcm
Has anyone ever won 12 individual D1 titles over their 4 year NCAA career? Is Marchard on to do that?
My time’s a 6:58
He dropped more time in a month than Ncaa did in 29 years i think
And his real goal is the olympics at home.
the best 500 swim in history of ncaa so far? yeah agreed... but best record in ncaa history overall I'd give to Katie in the mile
What about Ledecky's 4:24 in the 500 free? Thats still a dominant record.
I think McIntosh (if she swam in the NCAA) would be all over that. Maybe not under it, but certainly in the 4:25 range by the end of her career.
I don't disagree that Summer would drop a big time. I was only looking at times that have been NCAA records.
Man, what if Peaty would've swum NCAA!
No, the 3:28 400IM by Leon was the most impressive. No one had been under 3:33 at that, right? He demolished the record and the field..and second place was a 3:34 which still be a top 3-5 swim in that event of all time.
I just get this gut feeling that it won’t be Marchand, but before 2030 someone will go sub 4:00
In addition to the 5 he has now I bet he could get the record in the 100 breast and 200 fly
I want to see him try the 50,100 and 1650 free
All free events -> he’s good and has most of them.
All fly events -> he’s good he can do it
All back events -> he’s good he can do it.
All breast events -> he’s good and has some.
All IM events -> he has them
All diving events -> I mean he’s Leon look at his starts he can do flips on top of that.
Bassically he’s getting every single record ever
how does Gretchen walsh go 19.95 ????
You should live stream your face during finals so we can see the trueeeee live reaction
I could probably swim that time (with a 2:00 false start)
Bro you gotta post the night of
I think you’re underestimating how long these videos take to make, Michael.
@@SockwellPhelps, Andrew or Chadwick?
I think Marchand could hold every single record except for Dressel’s. Everything else I think he has. Yes, even the mile.
He has one of Dressel's though, the 2IM lol.
his 3:28 400 IM was other worldly also.
But "I like breathing"
Thought about you during 'the event' and that you were absolutely losing it. Like us all and Rowdy. Sub-4:00 very soon...WTF!!
If he splits like 24.7 in those two 50’s that he went 25’s he can go under 4 minutes
Caleb Dressel's 50 free at 17.6 and 42.8 100 fly are more impressive imo
I think Leon can break every record but 50FR and 100FL
HE SHOULD DO THE 100 BREAST
The list is
500 free
200 free
200 breast
100 breast
50 breast
200 fly
100 fly
200 IM
400 IM
1650 free
I think he could win the 100 and 200 of all four strokes.
If he’s this fast does this mean he’ll go for the 400M long course world record at the Olympics? Because I checked and he’s not even in the top 25 all time 400m long course times. I’d appreciate a reply from anyone.
200 im
400 im
500 free
200 free
200 breast
100 breast
200 back
200 fly
Marchand could get:
100 free
200 free
500 free
1650
200 fly
100 breast
200 breast
200 IM
400 IM
200bk+
Katie Ledecky beat the NCAA record in the 1650 yard by 22 seconds in a November invite. She also broke the 1000 yard record with her split. More impressive? I believe that time is still 20 seconds clear of the next best performer.
Yeahhhhhhhhhhh that 1650 might beat Leon’s anything
200 free
500 free
200 IM
400 IM
200 fly
100 breast
200 breast
As someone who has no clue what a "yard" is, how would this translate to a 400 free long course meters? Is this something he could final/medal in at Paris?
The way Leon swims is perfect for the SCY format so I have no idea how fast he would go in the 400 LCM but this swim likely translates to a ~3:40 caliber performance.
With that being said, he ain't swimming the 400m free in Paris and he won't need to for that 400m 3:40.00 WR to go down.
IT'S ON BORROWED TIME. THE FELLAS ARE COMING FOR IT.
@@Sockwell You reckon Short or Hafnaoui or someone else...?
@@johnmcdonald736they’re the favorites at it for sure, love the way short swims it
I like how in swimming everyone swims and competes for medals, places...
AND there's always one crazy mf who is just breaking records left and right, making entire competition irrelevant.
NCAA record list
100 free
200 free
500 free
1000 free
100 fly
200 fly
200 back
100 breast
200 breast
100 IM
200 IM
400 IM
+ fastest relay spit any stroke any distance
I think his 400 im and Dressel’s 50 free are more impressive.
Caleb 50 free
here is my list:
50,100,200,500,1000,1650 free
50.100,200 breast
50,100,200 back
50,100,200 fly
100,200,400IM
Luke Hobson 200 Free 1:28.8 🤧
he only raced the 500y 6 times .....lol
Caeleb dressel is still the greatest NCAA athlete of all time in my opinion, he broke barriers that most people hadn't even considered, 17.6 and 39.9 are the two most impressive records in the books and they're gonna last for a bit longer (until a stud like Maximus Williamson or Thomas Heilman gets into the system) but going out in an 18.96 on a 100 takes serious talent and bravery, and he was doing it at a time where going 40.9 was insane, 2nd place in that race was 41.07, really fast time, but caeleb dressel just was otherworldly, not to mention, it's the 4th day of setting insane generational records, unreal from caeleb dressel
The only more impressive swim is his 400 IM from last year
List of records he could DEFINITELY have:
200 fly
100 back
200 back
100 breast
200 breast
200 free
500 free
200 IM
400 IM
100 fly and 100 free he would be roughly 0.5 off imo, 50 free he could be 18 mid-high, 1650 no clue