From a Fellow 3D creator & content creator, Great insight and video. I totally agree with you and your view point. Really great to see another Genuine 3D print creator like myself being genuine & honest. Believe it or not it is a rare thing in the 3D content creator industry of biased sponsored content creators. Subscribed -Keep it up. Cheers From Australia Down Under.
tbh that's more a yt wide thing, I think 3D-Printing is one of the better spaces due to most creators being somewhat smaller channels. Im usually happy enough if people are aware and open about their bias - real objectivity is somewhat non-existent anyway.
@kunicross I am big believer that if you give advise & reviews then you should be independent and not sponsored in anyway. It is rampant in many industries but being a unique industry focus on one product 3D printing, So many reviewers & content creators have Sold Out to 3d companies for being able to produce the latest content for views online whilst not advising the unsuspecting consumer on a good or bad product for their own agenda of receiving praise from Chinese manufacturers. This is very very True just like Sam Prentice, Loyal Moses and so many many more with NDA's and edited content sponsorship which is ruining the genuine honesty of the industry. Facts. One thing I'm proud to say I'll never do. Just like Teaching Tech & makers muse stated last week as well.
@@CRIZS_CREATIONS On the one hand you got a point on the other hand it's just about impossible to make a living from AdSense alone or even make your running costs. Even Adsense and affilate (which brings a bias with it in its own) if you only stay at Amazon for example to minimize Bias will hardly make it viable to run a channel from a business point of view. Also your value for not related advertisers is much lower... the same thing was(is) going on in print media maybe with a bit more oversight. And yea I´m as annoyed by sponsorships as everyone else - especially if they are too long and badly integrated into the video but also I understand it's one of the realities we have to live with. As long as people disclose if they got a review machine for free for example I'm ok with that same with affiliate links etc. What other sections in UA-cam have is where you have a almost clear distinction between review and presentation channels which is sometimes not as easy to see for the casual consumer. I have not yet really seen this as pronounced in the 3D printing area.
@@CRIZS_CREATIONS Big YES to this topic, I can't find a REAL review anymore. Fact is even if they bought the machine it is tainted with an affiliated link. I do my best to " Keep it real", but even I have to watch what is said in some cases for legal reasons. I will give Makers Muse a big thumbs up, he doesn't play the BS game
3D print farms are only cost effective for parts which will never have a large enough volume to justify injection molding. There is also a lot of competition for non-proprietary designs. If you're a good designer, then you will always be able to find a niche market to service.
@@SirTools I agree with you. However, 3D printing will never be the casual experience one has with using a laser printer to output documents. CNC machining is fraught with issues related to the technology. It requires the user to have a working knowledge of the materials, tooling, etc. that casual users have no interest in learning and that isn't likely to change.
@@gaiustacitus4242 I think that is where 3d printers are held up too. A lot of folks do not want to learn new tech and cad software etc. That keeps this market alive, but things could change in the future, just not sure where it's going at this point.
Young people (kids) seem really interested in this tech. My 11 year old just got an A1 mini for christmas. His best friend got one over summer for his birthday and multiple classmates have traded 3d printed things. While it may never be like a laser printer, I think the adults of tomorrow are going to be way more comfortable this stuff than most of the adults of today.
@@belavet Hopefully they will sign up for a student license of Fusion 360 and learn to design their own parts instead of just downloading STL files and printing them.
3D printers for metal, glass, and other materials will be the future. Plastics will still be there, but the market should really open up. I sure hope so. Take care.
Looks like he needs to build up a backstock of material rather than "Just in time" delivery on his filament. With the demand out there right now and spotty supply issues JIT is NOT the way to operate these days.
Yeah, the JIT doesn't work for 3d printing. I keep a large stock behind it, but we have these sudden rush of orders and it's always while my machines are tied up for local client jobs. I am ordering in more machines, but the filament supply this year so far has been the new bottle neck.
Print farms will disappear as the personal 3D printers and presliced models become more common. Thirty or forty years ago there was a Kinkos or some similar printer shop on every corner. Now they are mostly gone. The advent of affordable ink jet printers which could do letter quality prints with decent color graphics, were the beginning of their demise. Bambu is bringing 3D printers which just work, and a host of working 3D models to the masses. Which will soon cause the demise of print farms.
Hello, awesome vid. One thing struck me that i need to ask, what dou you think are the areas, where new mini farm owners could com & print? What niches or parts? Also, what platforms are best to sell on? thank you soo much
First place to test the market is Etsy, it's not a perfect web site, but it's a quick cheap way to start selling 3d printed items. The parts I mentioned could be anything from old car parts to just about anything household that is no longer available from retail stores. There is a huge market for so many things mm...might have to do a show about this topic. Even the smallest 3d printers can sell and make money, but finding the niches is part of the journey and sometimes like in my case it was in front of me for years and the wife actually pushed me to offer game parts on Etsy and....OMG....the stuff sold.
I think the smaller farms will either have to get huge, not be profitable or else just close up. There is a lot you can do with 3d printing and I think the large farms will be ok for quite awhile yet, at least 20 years I would say. I doubt 3d printing will be easy enough to have a printer in each house for the foreseeable future as there are just too many problems. Buy bulk! You can easily get 1kg rolls for $10 or under if you buy in bulk. I would use AMS units and just load them up with 1 color and have it auto swap when it runs out of one rather than the 5kg spools.
I think the whole industry is in motion which makes predictions pretty difficult, Bambu has lowered the barrier for entry a lot - still it's not a "Iphone product" you still need some technical expertise or at least mindset. (it´s not extremely difficult but still I would not gift a A1 mini to aunt Karen who is barley able to operate E-Mail). I thinkt with that movement a whole lot of people and companies will enter and also leave the market, some business models might get obsolete and new ones arrive. I think one thing that will sooner or later happen is that the 3D Printer manufactures will have saturated the available market at current tech level - I think potentially that could be 20 years or longer out especially if you factor in developing countries and even lower barriers for entry. From a business standpoint currently if you only need a couple of parts per month it´s probably not worth to hire somebody with expertise in both 3D printing and CAD (or train somebody up) it will be cheaper to have some small local farm do that for you even if the prices per part are super high. I kinda doubt that the current tech level will become as common as normal printers, there are too many variables in the whole 3D-Printing ecosystem to make it half way "userproof". Especially the aeras where it is super interesting (spare parts for cars for example) the requirements for materials and tolerances are often much higher than current "plug&play" levels allow.
Regarding your comments on Amazon: I haven't had a single shipping carrier NEVER let me down. I currently have a heated blanket via UPS that has been in limbo, shipped on December 20th that was supposed to be a Christmas gift. Similar stories with Fedex and USPS. DHL has never let me down but I have used them all of maybe four times so my sample size is basically zero lol. I have no affiliation to Amazon, in fact half our family paycheck comes from a competitor, but I think you are jumping the gun a bit losing trust based on one bad experience. As you said, your stuff is typically at your door next day. I don't know that anyone, anywhere can promise a completely uninterrupted delivery service 24/7/365.
Kia Ora, yeah, I'm sitting here watching 3d printers running over night to fill orders again this week and already looks like I need more filament..wow....good I guess, but I need to order another machine in for production and I think we might need to re-order filament after ordering earlier today...
@@peterstevens6555 The machine I've got here run from about $200 to $1,000 that I'm using. The Yard Sale one for $30 was a great deal, but rare find I guess.
Interesting video. I guess every issue can be a learning opportunity. These days I am finding that a lot of stuff that I get from Amazon is coming from a third party… I.e. Amazon doesn’t have to stock pile items to fill orders. When are VERY HIGH SPEED printing going to become the Kinko’s of the future. You find your file or select from a catalog and call it in and pick it up in a couple of hours. I think there will be a market for that personal niche maker for prototypes or one off parts and the people that can design or remake parts that break. Thanks for sharing and I hope the future is bright.
A more realistic expectation will be pick up in a day or two. 3D printing is a very slow process even on fast printers. A company like Kinko's will never be able to afford to have so much excess printing capacity that machines are always open and ready for your custom print job.
@@SirTools Your print job will need to be scheduled and even the fastest 3D printers are slow. A print job can take from 15 minutes for trivial parts to more than 48 hours for complex parts. Jobs estimated to take 4+ hours likely to run overnight. If a print fails (and this happens), then it has to be run again. Anyone who thinks that 3D printing works anything like using a laser printer has no experience with the technology.
From a Fellow 3D creator & content creator, Great insight and video. I totally agree with you and your view point. Really great to see another Genuine 3D print creator like myself being genuine & honest. Believe it or not it is a rare thing in the 3D content creator industry of biased sponsored content creators. Subscribed -Keep it up. Cheers From Australia Down Under.
We love that Down Under and Angus with his makers muses show etc, and we'll check on yours now
tbh that's more a yt wide thing, I think 3D-Printing is one of the better spaces due to most creators being somewhat smaller channels.
Im usually happy enough if people are aware and open about their bias - real objectivity is somewhat non-existent anyway.
@kunicross I am big believer that if you give advise & reviews then you should be independent and not sponsored in anyway. It is rampant in many industries but being a unique industry focus on one product 3D printing, So many reviewers & content creators have Sold Out to 3d companies for being able to produce the latest content for views online whilst not advising the unsuspecting consumer on a good or bad product for their own agenda of receiving praise from Chinese manufacturers. This is very very True just like Sam Prentice, Loyal Moses and so many many more with NDA's and edited content sponsorship which is ruining the genuine honesty of the industry. Facts. One thing I'm proud to say I'll never do. Just like Teaching Tech & makers muse stated last week as well.
@@CRIZS_CREATIONS On the one hand you got a point on the other hand it's just about impossible to make a living from AdSense alone or even make your running costs. Even Adsense and affilate (which brings a bias with it in its own) if you only stay at Amazon for example to minimize Bias will hardly make it viable to run a channel from a business point of view.
Also your value for not related advertisers is much lower...
the same thing was(is) going on in print media maybe with a bit more oversight.
And yea I´m as annoyed by sponsorships as everyone else - especially if they are too long and badly integrated into the video but also I understand it's one of the realities we have to live with.
As long as people disclose if they got a review machine for free for example I'm ok with that same with affiliate links etc.
What other sections in UA-cam have is where you have a almost clear distinction between review and presentation channels which is sometimes not as easy to see for the casual consumer. I have not yet really seen this as pronounced in the 3D printing area.
@@CRIZS_CREATIONS Big YES to this topic, I can't find a REAL review anymore. Fact is even if they bought the machine it is tainted with an affiliated link. I do my best to " Keep it real", but even I have to watch what is said in some cases for legal reasons. I will give Makers Muse a big thumbs up, he doesn't play the BS game
3D print farms are only cost effective for parts which will never have a large enough volume to justify injection molding. There is also a lot of competition for non-proprietary designs. If you're a good designer, then you will always be able to find a niche market to service.
I think there is a lot of room for more new ideas from 3d printers and we're not at the peak yet.
@@SirTools I agree with you. However, 3D printing will never be the casual experience one has with using a laser printer to output documents.
CNC machining is fraught with issues related to the technology. It requires the user to have a working knowledge of the materials, tooling, etc. that casual users have no interest in learning and that isn't likely to change.
@@gaiustacitus4242 I think that is where 3d printers are held up too. A lot of folks do not want to learn new tech and cad software etc. That keeps this market alive, but things could change in the future, just not sure where it's going at this point.
Young people (kids) seem really interested in this tech. My 11 year old just got an A1 mini for christmas. His best friend got one over summer for his birthday and multiple classmates have traded 3d printed things. While it may never be like a laser printer, I think the adults of tomorrow are going to be way more comfortable this stuff than most of the adults of today.
@@belavet Hopefully they will sign up for a student license of Fusion 360 and learn to design their own parts instead of just downloading STL files and printing them.
3D printers for metal, glass, and other materials will be the future. Plastics will still be there, but the market should really open up. I sure hope so. Take care.
You bet, I think we're just heading for bigger market swings in the near future.
Looks like he needs to build up a backstock of material rather than "Just in time" delivery on his filament. With the demand out there right now and spotty supply issues JIT is NOT the way to operate these days.
Yeah, the JIT doesn't work for 3d printing. I keep a large stock behind it, but we have these sudden rush of orders and it's always while my machines are tied up for local client jobs. I am ordering in more machines, but the filament supply this year so far has been the new bottle neck.
Print farms will disappear as the personal 3D printers and presliced models become more common. Thirty or forty years ago there was a Kinkos or some similar printer shop on every corner. Now they are mostly gone. The advent of affordable ink jet printers which could do letter quality prints with decent color graphics, were the beginning of their demise. Bambu is bringing 3D printers which just work, and a host of working 3D models to the masses. Which will soon cause the demise of print farms.
Right about where my thoughts are. Hot now but will not last
Hello, awesome vid. One thing struck me that i need to ask, what dou you think are the areas, where new mini farm owners could com & print? What niches or parts? Also, what platforms are best to sell on? thank you soo much
First place to test the market is Etsy, it's not a perfect web site, but it's a quick cheap way to start selling 3d printed items. The parts I mentioned could be anything from old car parts to just about anything household that is no longer available from retail stores. There is a huge market for so many things mm...might have to do a show about this topic. Even the smallest 3d printers can sell and make money, but finding the niches is part of the journey and sometimes like in my case it was in front of me for years and the wife actually pushed me to offer game parts on Etsy and....OMG....the stuff sold.
I think the smaller farms will either have to get huge, not be profitable or else just close up. There is a lot you can do with 3d printing and I think the large farms will be ok for quite awhile yet, at least 20 years I would say. I doubt 3d printing will be easy enough to have a printer in each house for the foreseeable future as there are just too many problems. Buy bulk! You can easily get 1kg rolls for $10 or under if you buy in bulk. I would use AMS units and just load them up with 1 color and have it auto swap when it runs out of one rather than the 5kg spools.
I think the whole industry is in motion which makes predictions pretty difficult, Bambu has lowered the barrier for entry a lot - still it's not a "Iphone product" you still need some technical expertise or at least mindset. (it´s not extremely difficult but still I would not gift a A1 mini to aunt Karen who is barley able to operate E-Mail).
I thinkt with that movement a whole lot of people and companies will enter and also leave the market, some business models might get obsolete and new ones arrive.
I think one thing that will sooner or later happen is that the 3D Printer manufactures will have saturated the available market at current tech level - I think potentially that could be 20 years or longer out especially if you factor in developing countries and even lower barriers for entry.
From a business standpoint currently if you only need a couple of parts per month it´s probably not worth to hire somebody with expertise in both 3D printing and CAD (or train somebody up) it will be cheaper to have some small local farm do that for you even if the prices per part are super high.
I kinda doubt that the current tech level will become as common as normal printers, there are too many variables in the whole 3D-Printing ecosystem to make it half way "userproof".
Especially the aeras where it is super interesting (spare parts for cars for example) the requirements for materials and tolerances are often much higher than current "plug&play" levels allow.
Remember the good ole days of Amazon next day delivery!?!?
I sure do and my business here was geared to restock in one day etc....man, I'm in trouble now LOLOL
@@SirTools 🤣🤣
My thoughts, less than two cents, the more automated the world becomes, the less profitable the small businesses will be. 🤷🏻♂️
Robots ? Automation ? I think we're coming up on something very different soon
Regarding your comments on Amazon: I haven't had a single shipping carrier NEVER let me down. I currently have a heated blanket via UPS that has been in limbo, shipped on December 20th that was supposed to be a Christmas gift. Similar stories with Fedex and USPS. DHL has never let me down but I have used them all of maybe four times so my sample size is basically zero lol.
I have no affiliation to Amazon, in fact half our family paycheck comes from a competitor, but I think you are jumping the gun a bit losing trust based on one bad experience. As you said, your stuff is typically at your door next day. I don't know that anyone, anywhere can promise a completely uninterrupted delivery service 24/7/365.
Kia Ora & Good Afternoon from NZ ...if it's on a climb bro, ya better buy more machines?!
Kia Ora, yeah, I'm sitting here watching 3d printers running over night to fill orders again this week and already looks like I need more filament..wow....good I guess, but I need to order another machine in for production and I think we might need to re-order filament after ordering earlier today...
@@SirTools How much does it cost for those machines?
@@peterstevens6555 The machine I've got here run from about $200 to $1,000 that I'm using. The Yard Sale one for $30 was a great deal, but rare find I guess.
@@SirTools That's seems like a good deal $30 ...I need a printer for my PC!!! lol........
@@peterstevens6555 Yeah, can't beat that price
Interesting video. I guess every issue can be a learning opportunity. These days I am finding that a lot of stuff that I get from Amazon is coming from a third party… I.e. Amazon doesn’t have to stock pile items to fill orders. When are VERY HIGH SPEED printing going to become the Kinko’s of the future. You find your file or select from a catalog and call it in and pick it up in a couple of hours. I think there will be a market for that personal niche maker for prototypes or one off parts and the people that can design or remake parts that break. Thanks for sharing and I hope the future is bright.
I think it's just a matter of time and something like your point out..yeah...just about what I expect too..
A more realistic expectation will be pick up in a day or two. 3D printing is a very slow process even on fast printers. A company like Kinko's will never be able to afford to have so much excess printing capacity that machines are always open and ready for your custom print job.
@@gaiustacitus4242 2 or 3 days ? yeah, that could be the truth LOLOL
@@SirTools Your print job will need to be scheduled and even the fastest 3D printers are slow. A print job can take from 15 minutes for trivial parts to more than 48 hours for complex parts. Jobs estimated to take 4+ hours likely to run overnight. If a print fails (and this happens), then it has to be run again.
Anyone who thinks that 3D printing works anything like using a laser printer has no experience with the technology.
@@gaiustacitus4242 They are slow even with these new "hyper speed" core XY machines