US Army Vet Reacts "Unstoppable 77th Infantry Division - Old Age & Treachery | The Fat Electrician"
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As a great scholar once said. "The US is like 50 war tribes in a trench coat with a defense budget big enough to fight god."
Habitual line crosser
Love that guy 😂
What nobody has mentioned is how many lives the 77th probably saved going that hard at the young division during the war game. They taught those kids some very valuable lessons.
Undeniable facts. Those boys learned easy and hard at the same time. All that got killed was their pride and ego. I'm absolutely certain 99/100 of them took those lessons to heart and used every nasty trick they had pulled on them.
THIS
“Be careful. The older I get, the less a lifetime sentence is a deterrent “. Unknown
an alternative to that one: "i have no problems going BACK to prison" haha. i think that was the "here's your sign" guy, bill whatever
Im 53. Bit of training.
Went paint balling with my teen son and his friends. One kid cried.
I had fun.
I'm 62 and every time any cheeky youngster calls me grandad I just say "I don't know, what was your grandma called?"
Best response, sir! 🤣🤣🤣
Hes the history teacher we all wished we had in school
I keep telling my mom that if my teachers taught and told stories the way Nick does, I would have been a better student and I would have paid better attention and she agrees with me.
My last History Teacher in H.S., was an actual D-Day Veteran (Normandy). He was a very calm man with a razor's edge wit, and had a way of talking/explaining things to us Students that compelled us to do our own research, and was more than willing to allow us time to introduce our own thoughts, including 'Current Events' going on.
R.I.P. Mr. Kwoka! Heaven's streets are made safer with your presence!
You are now the student that your teacher desperately wanted when you were young and overpowered by hormones!
He's studying to be a history teacher, because he was sick of hearing what was being taught currently.
That old man "greeting" people at Walmart that you made fun of? It is entirely possible the he patrolled the I Drang Valley with The 1st Cav. "We Were Soldiers Once and Young".
Yeah, they don’t let them wear their patches they earned, so concealed badass.
My friend had the privilege to be in the movie We Were Soldiers.
I got to meet a man that was there the next year. He had a silver star and two bronze hearts plus the Purple Hearts. He said it was a hard year when he was shot twice. He was a genuine badass
I live next door to ft. Bragg...yours is a true statement
As a sixty year old USMC Veteran, disabled, I know for a fact I'll never again have the strength/stamina I did when I became a Marine at the age of 18.
THAT said, I also know the two Tours I 'Enjoyed' and the decades that followed, all the life experiences I've enjoyed, gives credence to the phrase- "Old age and treachery will surmount youth and exuberance!" Damned right! ;-)
LOVE Nick, and his style of Oration/Teaching! Whoever gets him as a Student is Blessed!
ill bet your meaner now then back then
@@jmoliere1207
Ever see that old B/W TV Series- "The Beverly Hillbillies?" I'm 'Granny!'
;-P
What's even crazier about Doss saving 75 men is that is probably not the accurate number. The army wanted to credit him with 100 men saved. Doss said he felt it was actually closer to 50 men that he lowered down, so it was decided to split the difference and credit him with 75.
in either direction, he was an absolute legend, one of the biggest heros in our country's history
he was also the youngest at 26
To use a military phrase: “Go shit me a couple of divisions.”
My only wonder is how many of the 77th failed their eye exams? (:
😂😂😂😂
That's when the Army developed those cheap ass, never get laid glasses.
If you know, you know. 🤣🤣🤣
Birth Control Glasses BCGs or Grape Prevention Glasses RPGs. Still have 2 pair. Still actually wear them. They do not die.
Back then it was the papper test, it was well known to memorize the sheet... Like he did in the movie "Pearl Harbor".... You should look up the vid on the guy who used his battle ship like a sniper riffle... Navy said he had bad eyes, he went to a rifle shooting event and got the gold medal in the morning then for the fun of it he entered the pistol event and taken the gold there too.... LOL...
18yo's = cannon fodder. 30yo's = war fighters.
those of us in the green uniform sometimes refer to the young marines as "bullet catchers." it's dark, but also really accurate.
"Number 1 seed in the tournament gets a bye, don't hate the player, hate the game" is a criminally underrated line. lol.
38:38 original quote “all your base, are belong to us” it’s a very bad translation from Japanese on an old video game
Oh no... A trap...
They have set up us a bomb!
Zero Wing. One of the original UA-cam meme songs.
@@gilliganallmighty3also used as a cheat code by Blizzard in Warcraft:Orcs and Humans, Warcraft II. Can’t remember.
OK, now I'm picturing the Emperor sitting at his desk...
"What happen?"
"Somebody set up us the bomb!"
One of the greatest old-skool memes of all time. Even made TIME magazine cover.
Ukraine are currently using their middle aged men to fight against Russia.
They have more life experience.
Better living with hardship.
They panic less.
While also saving the young to rebuild the country, once the war is over.
The average Ukrainian soldier, on the frontline is 43 years old!
and they are kicking ass hardcore.
Russia is drafting more recruits and they will run into the Hacksaw that will have so many that have been, and done shake the head and wonder how they lost so many when Ukraine Has so many more reserves just out of range yet close enough to show up and say " HI we heard you want to hold a 'mental incompetency' test, stand up and we will count you ", LOL and the world is watching.
What's the difference between a "War Story" and a "Fairy Tale"? A "Fairy Tale" starts with "Once Upon a Time", a "War Story" starts with "Now This Ain't no Bulls*it" (although sometimes it's "And There We Were").
Let me tell you something! 😂
So, no sh!t there we were...
"No shit, there I was" is the most common.
No shit, there I was. First day in Iraq. Flight from BIAP to FOB Hammer. We start taking fire over Sadir City. Look out the window and see sparks flying off the engine from getting hit. We land at FOB Hammer and the Chinooks take off again to grab the next Stick. 20 minute flight. 3 hours later they show back up with the next Stick and new Chinooks. Aparently they got deadlined when they got back to BIAP.
Navy sea story starts with this is a no shitter.
I volunteered to be a number for my country in 1968, Sent to Southeast Asia. My dad volunteered to be a number in 1941, sent to South Pacific. Many of my friends did the same as their dads did before them. My father ended his service at Okinawa. I ended my service at Okinawa. Thanks pop! Okinawa was a much different duty for me thanks to you and many other brave guys who were numbers for their country.
My great grandfather was 77th through all the things described. He finished WWII at 35 years old. I love this original video because it’s something I can share with my family about history. I’m blessed to be retired from service and staying here in Okinawa. Land and sea fought for by my great grandfather and my great uncles in the Navy.
My late father, who was 28, almost 29 years old, enlisted in the US Army in early 1943..He was the second fastest runner in his company! He served in a medical unit until 1946. He barely survived & helped feed & treat many concentration camp victims.Yeah, these spoiled entitled college brats are clueless fools! Miss you Dad!
Navy basic, 2016, we had a 34 year old guy named Chang, we called Grampa Chang, he was the guy you asked how to fold your rack sheets into 45s and shine your boots and dress shoes.
And he was the one to teach us how to use an iron to get the creases. None of us ever had to use one before.
This is why most people in the US I feel respect and admire our soldiers and veterans. Those who join the military sacrifice their lives, their time, their dreams to further the American Dream as a whole. One can only hope that those who don't will get the opportunity to realize it and be thankful.
It's an interesting thing, actually. I totally understand thanking the folks in the military and the vets. It makes perfect sense. My dad went to boot camp a month or so after I was born and retired from active duty when I was 23. Any time it comes up and I mention I'm a military brat, I get thanked too. I didn't do anything! I don't really know how to respond cause seriously, I didn't do anything, other than have minor panic attacks at the start of desert storm and 9/11, cause of the oh shit, there are gonna be deployments realities.
@@peachyykeen80 i dont know who it was harder on when i went ther e me or my family
@jmoliere1207 thankfully, my dad never got deployed in desert storm, probably cause he was essentially a load master, so he basically just loaded up everything heading to the middle east and he was on permanent station assignment on 9/11 cause my mom had cancer and was still in treatment. I would imagine it would feel different for me had he actually gotten deployed though.
The one thing I always hate with people claiming that America came in late or something is that it was only 6 months before Pearl Harbor when the Soviet Union was invaded by the Germans.
The war wasn't over, it was only just getting started. The "America came in late" argument only really works for World War 1.
And yet, despite "only" entering the war with 4 years left to go, in that time the United States went from the world's 19th largest military to the world's largest and most powerful military by far, the latter being a title it still holds to this day. All while also supplying the British, Australians, Canadians, AND the USSR.
For a reference for the age, the Army currently only accepts a recruit up to the age of 35 and the Marines go to 28.
These guys are essentially Special Forces with all the training they went through. They had HELL MONTHS not just Hell Weeks
something else to take into account is the marksman scores of most of the 77th its hard to leave many pow's when your taking the head and shoulders off every enemy you come across.
Or as Wyatt Earp said "speed is fine, accuracy is final"
Vice Admiral Willis "Ching" Lee said something similar, didn't he? "Speed is fine, but accuracy is final. You have to learn to be slow in a hurry." I remember that quote from the video Nick did on Lee and I know that's what Earp said, but I can't remember what Lee said in his book. I just know that Lee said essentially the same thing.
@@ravenhurst96 Lee said something similar, but I can't remember his quote exactly
@@Dsmwarrior1996 I'll have to rewatch the video. It's been a minute.
@@ravenhurst96 agreed, I might find another reactor that did a reaction and find out too, I watch just about all the reactors after watching his video lol
Also just a point to remember is that the older men had already lived through the Great Depression and understood more about hard living than any other generation since. My father was in the Navy in the South Pacific on an island repairing fighter planes, he was 23 when he volunteered he was already an airplane mechanic.
Here's the thing; all of those older guys were likely working class men during the Great Depression. They probably looked at military training and combat as, "Well, shit, this sucks, but at least we get fed and have a place to live and get paid."
Or "Don't threaten us with a good time." Knowing they will get to see the world and not pay a dime...
im from the philippines .. and i just realized😅 theres a monument in leyte named "the landing" .. it depicts the historic amphibious landing of general mcarthur, and the completion of his promise when he left the country years earlier, his promise to the philippines is probably one of the most famous quote in philippines history! general mcarthur promised to the philippines "I SHALL RETURN!" .. and he did! AND I THINK HES WITH THEM OL' BASTARDS ...
He wasn't with the 77th.
When I was in the military and if you went to the beach and got a severe SUNBURN that kept you from working (in uniform) then you were eligible for a Captain's Mast for 'damaging military equipment'. Seen it happen with a reduction in pay for two months.
yep, carelessness was punishable. not only did we have to complete the tasks for exercises and such, but we had to not screw up the normal human maintenance of taking care of ourselves in that ordeal. it was great training
When I joined the Marines at 23 I had to laugh to myself as the DI took all the recruits and had a teaching session on how to shave. Blew my mind how many guys had never learned how to shave properly. I'd take the 30 year old's to war every time.
Nick is by far the best history channel on the internet. The humor/punchlines are 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼
When I was at MEPS in Sacramento joining, one dude that was part of our group was in his late 40's. Which I thought was past the max age.
Robert Duvall in diner on Second Hand Lions, and Colin Firth in bar on Kingsman. FAFO
I watched Second Hand Lions in Film Production during my freshman year in highschool and I absolutely fell in love with that movie. The story and the acting was so amazing.
I graduated high school in 1979, and while I was on school, there was a Japanese soldier who was found on some small island who still didn't know that the war was over.
I was 29 when I joined the Navy, the cutoff at that time was 34. Most of the guys in my company at bootcamp were 17 to 22. They looked at me like I was an old man, lol. I did a lot less pushups than most of them, because I knew how to keep my mouth shut. lol. Our Company Commanders, a couple of 1st Class Petty Officers, wanted me to be the recruit company commander. But they couldn't force me to, I had to volunteer to do it. I quickly saw that the first three guys that tried did more pushups than anyone else, so I was like, no thanks. I know how to do a pushup. They saw in my records that I was a Drum Major in my High School Band, so I knew how to give directions and I knew how to march. I would have done a good job, it's just all those pushups you had to do when someone else fucked up, nah. I'm good.
I played trombone in marching band during high school. Drill Sergeants found out and had me step up as guide on bearer because the idiot that volunteered didn't know wtf he was doing.
Our company won every streamer for marksmanship ship, drill and ceremony, obstacle course etc.... so the wind drag while running did get worse after each new streamer was added😮. Being first to chow every day made it a little better though.😊
What always got me was 43,000 CONFIRMED kills for the 77th ID. A lot of the island warfare included flamethrowers and explosives, meaning a lot of demise and burial all in one lit fuse, and once they're buried there's no confirmation counting done. So that total kills number is potentially significantly higher, meaning their ratios were potentially more impressive. But, hey, they weren't here for the trophies, they were only here to get the effing job DONE and get the eff HOME. Dad's got better things to do than spend all day dealing with your penny-ante bullsh!t. Just get done so I can go do the important stuff at home!
All your islands belong to us is a gaming reference. All your bases belong to us. I think it originated in StarCraft in reference to the Zerg rush tactic… but I could be wrong about that, but it is a gaming reference.
Zero wing meme is the original. Also used as god mode cheat code in Warcraft: Orcs and humans or Warcraft II the RTS games.
"main screen turn on"
"what"
"how are you gentlemen?"
"all your base are belong to us."
"you have no chance to survive."
"make your time."
@@ghomerhust "Take off every Zig for great justice!"
*cue the meme music buildup for the video montage*
40yr old in the US Navy. Back in March (2024), got hit by a car while walking to my car. Fractured (not broken) tibial plateau and a need for my meniscus to be repaired. Mostly annoyed because I was planning to fly home for leave the next day. We ‘old folks’ can be quite tough.
My take on the taking of POWs is these guys probably got families and by the time they got to the Pacific and knew the Japanese fake surrendered a lot, so why take the chance.
I've had 40+ years of contemplating the most diabolical ways of hurting someone who wants to FAFO
Regarding the Okinawa surrender stats, I saw in the comments on another video that the Japanese soldiers did some torture to some 77th PoWs and once the 77th learned of that, well...
I did not think of it until Daniel mentioned it, but yeah, they 77th was practically getting SF training with these various "experiments". Great observation!
The phrase "All your base are belong to us" is a venerable old meme from the 90s, apparently from an old badly translated game called Zero Wing. It was even used as a cheat code in, if memory serves me correctly, Warcraft III, along with another line from Zero Wing "Somebody set up us the bomb"
The "I shit you not" stories are some of the best.
I monitor you guys daily waiting for these reactions....still waiting for the man hole cover story😂😂😂
37 and 32? I'm right there with y'all! I'm 35, but damn... Us old dudes can throw down! Can't wait to see what y'all got going next! Love you guys, and stay safe, and keep your arms close and maintained for the next one!
there is a difference between a "personal problem" and a "we problem" .
Wait a damn minute, I'm a 54 year old Desert Stormer now Texas State correctional officer, anyone want to test me?
The National Guard of several States were activated by the President or their Governor and sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. Men 55! They still fight and show youngsters how not to die when possible.
Going to a newly stood up division was probably better for the AARP division since they did not have to modify existing practices to play to their strengths but instead got to use their experience to figure out how to complete the mission.
And it was "Be all that you can be" that was the siren song of my enlistment.
Right. As documented in the book, The Rise of the G.I. Army, 1940-1941: The Forgotten Story of How America Forged a Powerful Army Before Pearl Harbor, America DID have a battle doctrine by Pearl Harbor, at least for the war in Europe. America DID have the command structure of a modern army, forged between 1940 and 1941 through a series of massive war games all across the South that essentially contributed to the formation of the army that would wage war in World War Two with the generals already sorted out, Patton and others among them, with a lot of career noncoms still with their units, even though many of the recruits left at the end of their enlistments, that was soon to change when the war broke out. Many of those recruits came back because of the draft and because of recruitment. The ranks were there, the divisions ready to be filled and trained, the order of battle already determined, tactics, logistics, already tried and improved upon. All they needed was troops and materiel; the structure was already in place. That is one of the huge misunderstood facts of World War Two. We weren't unready. We had been preparing for two years. The United States was far more prepared to go to war at the time of Pearl Harbor than the media portrayed at the time, and that historians have often missed.
Plus there was a lot of "isolationism"...I>E> A LOT OF Americans didn't want to get involved in another war. That's why America didn't come "militarily" in the picture until 43.
His merch for this video is outstanding!
"Why is there always time to do it twice, but not enough time to do it right the first time!" - my mother.
I joined the US military 3 times, 1st hitch was in the Army at 17. 2nd was Navy at 27 and 3rd was 31 in the Army. I can fully relate with everything Nic is talking about, because I went through it. The 2nd and 3rd times I was called everything from Old Man to Grandpa.
I was waiting on this one. Nick is great
I was 30 when I joined the army lol. Hell yeah old age and Treachery. I love it. I'm 52 now
"All your base are belong to us" is a phrase from an old game that spawned a weird moment in pop culture in the late 90s
A Vietnam vet I knew who was put in logistics, and eventually got to pick which helicopters he flew on, told me a valuable piece of advice...fly with guys that have grey in their beards. He said they will fly high, while the young guys fly low looking for something to shoot at...but also getting shot.
And a lot of those 30-year-olds had taken part in the '40-41' war games, and had then mustered out. But they had already been blooded, often literally in the war games, which amassed their own casuality toll. A lot of these guys knew the job already, and were ready to fight.
I wonder how many soldiers in the 77th division cheated on their eye exam. ( if you know, you know. )
Little known fact, just because an enemy surrenders, doesn't mean you have to accept it. They're still combatants until they actually become POW's.
Nic is funny asf great reaction guys. Yeah the Bismarck sunk on its maiden voyage but man it sunk the hms hood In like 6 minutes and there was only 3 men that didn't parish 1415 went down with the ship
I love your channel guys and also Fat Electricians channel.. you have brought so much joy to life and also information.. Kudos to you...
"All Your Island Are Belong To Us" is a play off of All Your Base Are Belong To Us.
Suggestion: watch The Limping Lady. The story of the American spy that drove the Nazi's crazy. Fat Electrician does "as usual" a great job. They made a movie about her called "A Call To Spy" but the movie seems more Hollywood than factual. And Nick covers more of the story than the movie does.
Yes after WWII, the USA became the superpower that we are, but let’s be sure to point out that if the USSR had not went on a conquer and subjugate rampage, there would have been no need for the USA to commit so many resources and would have done what happened after WWI, settled back into our own interests. But since the Soviet Union decided they were going to take over Europe and hopefully more, the USA stepped up as the counterpoint to their aggression and has been doing that ever since to any nation that tried to push around our friends, allies, and pretty much anyone who needed our help.
Looks can be deceiving
The statue of liberty patch was used during the first world war for the liberty division check out the Sabbaton song the lost battalion from their last stand album there's definitely something in the water them their yankees be drinkin.
You guys should do his video on the last war chief, Joe medicine crow. As a montanan that's part native, I have a regional and cultural pride from his story. It's not as popular on reaction channels but it's so worth it
slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I learnt this way before I went into usmc marine corps boot
where? my grandma and grandpa. " a stich in time saves nine" we fixed our own clothes, grew up poor. fixed our own shit.
In bootcamp, i could not believe how many pussies would cry at night. I slept like a babe. I was in San Diego, even slept through a few earthquakes I felt so at ease.
Lol, i joined at 36 and almost instantly got the name "Old Man Penn"😂
The old guys that can whoop your ass trope rocks hard in RED Retired Extremely Dangerous, yall should watch it (even casually if not as a reaction) it's a fun movie that I love rewatching on occasion and it's got a stacked cast!
16 unit citations!! where did they have the room on their uniform! BTW The 77th ID was also the Lost Battalion of WW1 !!! Heroes of both world wars!
Sweet been waiting for this reaction
"Now all your island belong to us". I can't remember the name of the video game but it was considered the worst translated video game. It went something like:
Hero- Main screen turn on
Villain (in bad robot voice). Hello gentlemen. We will win this battle. All your base are belong to us.
A little bit like as I watched two amazing athletes progress. Walter Payton in football and Michael Jordan in basketball.
Yes the pure athletics for each one peaked in their early 20's. But the championships came in their 30's. Knowledge of opponents and experience and more willingness to let teammates have their moments and leadership made them overall better even with diminished athletic abilities.
I love watching y’all react to his videos. Nik is the best and y’all are too❤❤
Yes, to every thing said.
Especially how awesome the Gore-Tex shelled, Military Sleep System is, compared to the well insulated bags those guys had, that turn into sponges in wet weather, and weigh a ton, no matter how "improved" your load bearing equipment is.
Old guys get it done, and go home.
Get in, get out.
No fucking about.
Command: Its a 3:1 ratio against....
77th: Ok so kill ×3 more guys than last time. Np. Should be easier since it's fish in a barrel on this island. Proceeds to kill exactly 3× as many as the last battle. 11:1 KD goes to 33:1 KD
Old men have a much bigger hate tank...and it's full.
Y'all should do his most recent one about the 11th airborne division and the Los Banos raid.
Everyone seems to miss the chapter 1 title joke... It's the first line of a cadence that has been around for a long time. We used it in the '93 at RTC San Diego. My division was the last through it.
I've always liked the term "Clerical work", since you're deleting names from the phone book.
I was twenty eight years old when I was at Benning. Even one of the drill sergeants called me grandpa. 😁
How much do you want to bet it wasn't service connected
I'm really surprised neither of you has seen Hacksaw Ridge. One of the best movies I've ever seen.
The war games might have been hell on the kids. But as a combat veteran; I bet those kids getting wet toughened them up a little more than usual before the shit really hit the fan in theater.
You don't need to babysit a grown ass man.
The fat electricians merch for this video is bad ass
Does it count as _thanking_ a Prius driver if I use my SUV's push bar?
I love that they made sure to include so early members of The Lost Generation.
That would be like if a major powers war broke out tomorrow and just to see what happens they re-employ a 77th comprised largely of me and my GenX cohorts...did I mention I love this idea? 😆 🤣 😂 😮
I'm 50... I ain't no gramps. Old man strength and decades of training boi. Lol
Outnumbered 3:1….. after the last battle when they had a kill ratio of 11:1…… don’t think they were worried about it 😏
Grandma always said, the hurrier you go the behinder you get .
Just seeing this 2 days later but that Pokeball Death Star shirt is awesome lol
Yes!!!! Lol just starting but know u guys gonna love this
It's going to be super long, but you have to do the angels now. It's requisite
Joined at 29
When are y'all going to react to "The Infamous Eager Beavers and Their Custom B-17 Old 666", and "The Greatest Rescue - The 11th Army Infantry Division The Angels"? Those two are a must react to. The 77th is why you show respect for your elders cause if you FAYFO🤔
The angels will be dropping on "Wrecked Nation" later today 🎉