Old School Vs. New School: You Decide What's Better

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  • @TheBigsteve713
    @TheBigsteve713 8 років тому +250

    this youtube channel is the most relaxing thing ever

    • @Meg_A_Byte
      @Meg_A_Byte 8 років тому +10

      Do you know "Primitive technology" channel? If not, definitely try it out! Similar type of relaxation.

    • @muhammadzamani9396
      @muhammadzamani9396 8 років тому +1

      Meg.A. Byte both definetely should deserve way more subs than what they have now. slowly but surely!

    • @dansunnassee8717
      @dansunnassee8717 8 років тому

      TheBigsteve713 i completely agree... This is so relaxing

    • @opticsmyles7356
      @opticsmyles7356 8 років тому

      TheBigsteve713 same

    • @DarekOrrLivinLife
      @DarekOrrLivinLife 8 років тому

      TheBigsteve713 agreed

  • @bargainboondocker3420
    @bargainboondocker3420 8 років тому +94

    I think the traditional methods produced a craftsman who was more in touch with the wood and nature, whereas the newer stuff only produces a faster woodworker.
    My opinion.
    Great video, I loved it.

    • @AndyRawls
      @AndyRawls  8 років тому +11

      Agreed!

    • @blues0006
      @blues0006 8 років тому +14

      Bargain Boondocker Also the traditional is a bit more pleasant to watch in my own opinion

    • @umaca2
      @umaca2 8 років тому +2

      by far :)

    • @chris3383
      @chris3383 7 років тому

      Bargain Boondocker not to mention how expensive that planer is ...but you also have to know how to use either or you can screw up whatever you are working on in hurry

    • @jessevardaman6208
      @jessevardaman6208 7 років тому +2

      I heard or read this somewhere else.
      All modern power woodworking tools do is allow me to make mistakes a lot faster.

  • @animalasylumarizona
    @animalasylumarizona 8 років тому +14

    Old school lets you discover the character of the wood. New school just efficiently shapes it. I appreciate your skill and videos.

  • @mcgyverswoodshopadventures5429
    @mcgyverswoodshopadventures5429 8 років тому +13

    I like both, old school for relaxing in the shop, new school to get it done. I think everyone should learn the old school, to learn to be precise by hand then you can work to the precision of the new. Subscribed

  • @JKkindasorta
    @JKkindasorta 8 років тому

    Thanks Andy, I have to say I also prefer the silent sounds of the wood.. Its simple, focused, and refreshing. Thanks for being above the crowd, I enjoy every minute, and please know that you come highly recommend because of your style..

  • @n07ju57hum4n
    @n07ju57hum4n 8 років тому +9

    The world needs more people like you andy.

  • @WoodByWright
    @WoodByWright 8 років тому +21

    Thanks for the Hand tool love! youtube needs more of that.

    • @onlythejeffness
      @onlythejeffness 7 років тому +3

      I think you need to send him a panel gauge at 6:26

  • @DanielWahlig
    @DanielWahlig 8 років тому +19

    For me, I think there's value in both methods - but would lean towards the new school 95% of the time. Hand planes are great for small, personal projects like a jewelry box for a loved one - while on larger, less personal projects - I just throw those boards through the planer/jointer and get it done. Basically - it's like how I view candles - I have power in my house so I use LED bulbs all the time, but sometimes a candle is nicer.

  • @Madmun357
    @Madmun357 5 років тому +5

    Wow, that 4- sided planer is quite the gadget!

    • @qphaterickson6065
      @qphaterickson6065 4 роки тому

      Yeah I thought he was gonna flatten on the counter then a edge then plane ! Haha then he comes out with this thing

  • @lorenemartin7362
    @lorenemartin7362 7 років тому

    Thank you so much for getting in touch with the way work was done a long time ago. It's definitely a craft that's worth keeping alive. I only now realize that is what my father did. Thank you for this experience.

  • @Brandybuck2000
    @Brandybuck2000 8 років тому +53

    Your just so pure in your video making process which I wouldn't expect from a new creator but I love all your videos so far and will continue to show support for an amazing creator :) you do you!

    • @Brandybuck2000
      @Brandybuck2000 8 років тому +2

      Plus you did a good job fixing your video super quick so yeah! :D

    • @manicminer4127
      @manicminer4127 8 років тому +1

      Think he had coaching from Matt from Demo/Vet Ranch

    • @hihikhkh789
      @hihikhkh789 7 років тому

      Manic Miner This guy's an original.

  • @OldKnifeGuy
    @OldKnifeGuy 7 років тому

    The machine is faster but the traditional way has to be more personally satisfying and a lot more enjoyable to watch. You are a true craftsman, I've now watched all of your content and I'm looking forward to many more videos.

  • @Dekuinanutshell
    @Dekuinanutshell 8 років тому +30

    Wana know why you have over 60000 subscribers (me included)?
    You don't have obnoxiously repetitive music in the background.
    You don't speed up the process by 10x
    You have good resolution in your videos
    You have a beautiful voice (when you talk) and you let your work do the talking for you.

  • @cutenela
    @cutenela 8 років тому

    A dog, and we have the hole package. I love this. Thanks for sharing Andy.

  • @joymitchell4440
    @joymitchell4440 8 років тому +7

    I know practically nothing about woodworking and find your videos extremely interesting. I do wish you would explain some of the steps you are going through. I love it. You could explain it to your dog if you need someone to talk to! 😀 😁

  • @mikemerk8685
    @mikemerk8685 8 років тому

    I love the naturalness of your videos.

  • @yuzeyang8847
    @yuzeyang8847 8 років тому

    keep up the good work, I enjoy your pure video, no talking, no music. using video to show and express is way better than talking

  • @mairwyncurtis2102
    @mairwyncurtis2102 8 років тому

    The fact that you can use both methods is fantastic! Using the traditional tools needs to be seen and taught more. I feel it creates a lot more respect for what is being made! l find watching your videos VERY relaxing! I'm proud & honored to be a subscriber! For the record, you'd be even busier than you are now if l lived there because I adore your work.

  • @tigerleo2186
    @tigerleo2186 6 років тому

    As somebody who works in a flooring Mill making hardwood flooring I use a surfacer everyday. Loved seeing the old school stuff!

  • @margeryk6596
    @margeryk6596 7 років тому

    Watching you reminds me of my dad (in a very good way, but not like you're old) he always had a specific place for everything in his shop.

  • @djbanizza
    @djbanizza 8 років тому +1

    didn't think id watch a wood working video with such an emphasis on cinematography :)

  • @jeremyromero5526
    @jeremyromero5526 7 років тому

    Love the hands on methods in all kinds of wood work ......I have to say new school is just a faster way with the same results ........ keep killing it bro one love

  • @caleballen5274
    @caleballen5274 8 років тому

    All of your videos have such high quality, and are an enjoyment to watch. I don't know anything about your craft, but all of the videos are just so good. Well done!

  • @MarcoACasco
    @MarcoACasco 7 років тому

    I do woodworking as a hobby, been doing it for many years now, at first I thought I'd only use the traditional method, I thought of it as something really neat and also a good workout, I did have a table saw and a bench drill at the moment......later I ended up buying a 6 inch jointer planer...wow !!!!! no more sweating...so much faster !!!! cannot go back, it's like when I traded my stick shift car for an automatic gear box one...my biceps are not as big anymore since I got the jointer planer, but heck, I'm using my home gym again with my wife. Thanks for your awesome videos man !!!!!!

  • @Eleanorginger
    @Eleanorginger 8 років тому

    Hey im a student from the UK who found your channel as a method to understand some processes, its been really helpful and great to hear what you have to say. Also the style of your videos is really pleasant to watch, simplistic and bare. Keep up the good work!

  • @bigman713
    @bigman713 8 років тому +1

    I'm so chill right now I can't I just can't. Love watching the videos keep them coming. Really enjoy when you carve

  • @khalidmohammed3609
    @khalidmohammed3609 7 років тому

    I'm really enjoy to watch and learn more about how to deal with the woods . Thanks

  • @chrism7181
    @chrism7181 8 років тому

    Your videos are awesome ! Craftsmanship speaks for itself , so talk or not and it will be good to watch

  • @thejadeowlforge8779
    @thejadeowlforge8779 8 років тому

    I'd have to say that the old traditional is in a way a little better that the new school because you take ur time and really think about what your doing you also grow patients a lot and your experience grows so much so that one day if you don't have power tools you wont be worried at all man love this channel and also that dog is just chilling XD

  • @junsuh.
    @junsuh. 8 років тому +1

    It's a LOT of work to do that by hand, and takes a lot of time. Props for a) knowing how, and b) actually doing it (even if it's for demonstrative purposes). I'll stick with my jointer and planer for now, but please keep making these vids.

  • @mikem4343
    @mikem4343 8 років тому +2

    Great vids keep, making them, this is one of the few channels I make a point to see every new post. your vids are relaxing to watch and makes one want to learn a craft.

  • @UltimatexInstinct
    @UltimatexInstinct 8 років тому

    Absolutely love this channel. Also this video really makes you respect those who do that stuff by hand. Good stuff man!

  • @dahveed284
    @dahveed284 8 років тому

    Its amazing how much work and skill goes into hand milling the lumber vs using the machine.

  • @mcstinkle
    @mcstinkle 7 років тому

    glad to know you're not mute; the quiet videos have put me to sleep on many an occasion

  • @HarlyGuy13
    @HarlyGuy13 7 років тому

    Andy the only people who will subscribe are those that see any of your videos. You sir are a great craftsman and I'm so glad I found your channel!

  • @sanity1977
    @sanity1977 7 років тому

    You are an artist by far. Great wood working skills. Beautiful dog by the way... look forward to your videos.

  • @sean.burman98
    @sean.burman98 8 років тому +1

    Your videos are so relaxing. They're great.

  • @r___n___
    @r___n___ 6 років тому

    Watching these videos where you are shy of talking to the camera is so hilarious. Now you are very comfortable with talking to the camera.

  • @aleceads8129
    @aleceads8129 8 років тому

    The way you do things the old style is so cool I would love to learn how to do that

  • @jessjulian9458
    @jessjulian9458 7 років тому

    I really enjoyed the video. I just found your channel tonight and of course I subscribed. I love the old way and use it as much as I can. Thank for sharing.

  • @deltaclark3769
    @deltaclark3769 8 років тому +2

    can i just say that your editing skills are amazing?? like all the jump cuts that you do between camera angles are so so cool

  • @JovemEverton
    @JovemEverton 7 років тому

    I deeply value someone who can appreciate silence. Great video !

  • @BruceAUlrich
    @BruceAUlrich 8 років тому

    Your plane process was really cool to see.

  • @craftedworkshop
    @craftedworkshop 8 років тому +12

    "incredibly awkward talking to the camera in a shop by myself". Welcome to my life, hah! Great video man. I think hand tools are super sexy and fun to use, but it's hard to use them when trying to make money producing furniture, etc.
    P.S. had some Mogwai on in the background while watching this video and man, it was the perfect soundtrack. So relaxing.

  • @mize6544
    @mize6544 7 років тому

    Andy, could you possibly create a video on your process of sharpening your chisels and planers? I know it's uncomfortable to talk to a camera, but I find you very clear and to the point. Just some tips for a beginner woodworker? Thanks,
    Mike

  • @GringotheHunter
    @GringotheHunter 6 років тому

    “Aw bruh left my camera in here filming all night, guess I’ll pick it up and start talking.” Haha just kidding man, I love your videos and cinematography. It’s so refreshing and meditative to watch; you’re an inspiration to me as a budding woodworker. Keep up the great videos.

  • @edwhite1646
    @edwhite1646 6 років тому

    Well done and I will take the old school method every time.

  • @154Jamesp
    @154Jamesp 5 років тому +1

    Having trued 1,000's of board feet of lumber by hand..... new school. My thickness planer changed my life. I send stock thru the thicknesser, then micro-tune it with a hand plane.

  • @Bogie3855
    @Bogie3855 4 роки тому

    I use a 90yr old Bailey 5-1/2C along with a Veritas no 4 and a Veritas low angle block plane. I have a thickness planer as well as a flat bed sander and a jointer . However if you get into woodworking with power tool you soon learn that they only go so far and you still need the hand tools. They are faster as well for smaller jobs and much easier to clean up after. I recently rescued a Record 078 and picked up a Veritas shoulder plane on an imperfect sale. Sometimes used stuff sells as "vintage" and can be more expensive than newer, much better hand planes. They all work and have worked for decades.

  • @jamiemead6985
    @jamiemead6985 8 років тому +4

    you should make a bunch of little wooden circles with your initials so we can buy them and help support your chanel plus it would be awesome to have something you made

  • @jograham720
    @jograham720 8 років тому +5

    actually like when u talk helps me know more about it

  • @marcimli3231
    @marcimli3231 7 років тому

    One of my favourite channel now
    😂 keep the Dog around 👍

  • @nemobla1
    @nemobla1 7 років тому

    I love seeing the wood get made, old school style. But tbh, the only thing i could see it being good for, is the bragging right, or for the learning experience. I would always choose the modern style over the old, even though i would love to try and learn the old style, maybe make something for a family member doing it old style way.
    Great video!

  • @theniceones1613
    @theniceones1613 7 років тому

    You are a master of editing and camera angles

  • @sersal87
    @sersal87 8 років тому

    Favorite you tube channel

  • @TuProk
    @TuProk 8 років тому +2

    You deserve the subs. Your videos are very well shot and edited.
    Also, if you don't like to talk to the camera, just put the extra thoughts in the description of the video. Just look at the Primitive Technology channel on UA-cam, he does a bunch of stuff with 0 talking and leaves any extra info people might want in the description. Personally I don't mind a bit of talking but I feel like you do the "silent" thing so well.
    Anyway keep up the good work, can't wait to see more ;)

  • @dburd58
    @dburd58 7 років тому

    Enjoyed the video. I can appreciate both methods.

  • @monster-se2kh
    @monster-se2kh 8 років тому +23

    Do you personally change the camera angle every time or do you just have that many cameras lying around

    • @AndyRawls
      @AndyRawls  8 років тому +61

      change the angle using one camera

  • @MrMojo271
    @MrMojo271 8 років тому +20

    Don't know if either one is better than the other. The modern is just faster. Depends on your motivation, I guess.

    • @nainitalism
      @nainitalism 4 роки тому

      As you get older machines are great help !

  • @marshallmurrell4583
    @marshallmurrell4583 5 років тому

    I don't have a jointer, so if I have a twisted board, I try to flatten one side with hand planes. Then I will run it through the planer to bring the other side flat and co-planar. I have a jig so I can true edges on the table saw. So I manage to get by. It just sometimes takes longer. Wood working is doing its best to teach me patience.

  • @nancywhetstone554
    @nancywhetstone554 6 років тому

    Maybe a side business for you: Bag up those wood chips, etc. & sell them for fire starters. Like for camping or even fire places. Nice video.

  • @Heiryuu
    @Heiryuu 8 років тому

    i think the key is a mix of both. and i only have very limited experience with blacksmithing to base this next statement on but i believe knowing and regularly practicing doing it the traditional way gives you a much better eye for detail and lets you know how to correct errors. while modern methods allow you to finish project quickly and get a more consistent product. knowing when to implement these two methods is what will make your work stand out.
    for instance if someone tells me that they want a knife i'm not going to spend most of my time drawing out the steel with a traditional hammer if i have an power hammer available. instead i'll use the power hammer to get me the basic shape i need, then i can spend my time looking over the fine details.
    then again what the client wants supersedes what i want to do, if a patron wants a sword done in a traditional style and is willing to pay for it, then i'll do it traditionally.

  • @eliasmaximiliano
    @eliasmaximiliano 8 років тому

    old school everrr !!

  • @lucaspaglialunga4188
    @lucaspaglialunga4188 8 років тому

    Hello from Argentina, this is a best chanell i can see on UA-cam, i like whit you make the vidios, is very cool.
    I need see more videos for long time, great job!

  • @FAgungKurniawan
    @FAgungKurniawan 8 років тому

    I'm from Indonesia and I love your videos! 👏👏

  • @hebierob
    @hebierob 7 років тому

    Dude! Great demo! Thanks from Abilene, TX.

  • @thegnomeriseofthepopcornra7315
    @thegnomeriseofthepopcornra7315 8 років тому +2

    Me personally I love modern because it's faster and more efficient but old school is also pretty useful too. But overall I choose modern.

  • @gowinpie6510
    @gowinpie6510 8 років тому

    First if I have one tip if you are going to hold the camera and point it at you hold it higher it just makes it look better. Also love your videos and thanks for showing older techniques! Also how do u get so many camera angles with audio so Synced up?

  • @RC-bl2pm
    @RC-bl2pm 8 років тому

    wow that combination machine is a beast! I have a jointer and a planer and also hand planes...i do a board by hand once in a while just for the fun but most projects i consider milling to be grunt work and send em over the machines. The recent interest in all hand tool work is great because it gets more people doing more handwork which is fun. However...all handwork can be tedious!!....I wouldnt want to watch tom fidgen build a run of chairs or a fence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh dont be afraid to talk you did just fine.

  • @jograham720
    @jograham720 8 років тому

    love your video's and I really love wood work

  • @Jeremy-su3xy
    @Jeremy-su3xy 6 років тому

    I like the old school way. I'm a starter. Is there a starter kit in amazon?

  • @Myrkskog
    @Myrkskog 8 років тому

    Love your channel. Will apprentice for food.

  • @jamiesiebold3410
    @jamiesiebold3410 8 років тому

    I like doing hand-cut joinery but dimensioning lumber by hand is tedious.
    you've gathered a following quickly because you've put out well made videos and you have a ton of skill. I've really enjoyed every video you've put out.

  • @ironmantooltime
    @ironmantooltime 4 роки тому

    Bloody hell, 3 years later and another 400k subs 👍

  • @unbdld42
    @unbdld42 7 років тому

    Modern is great as long as the lights don't go out. Oh and i'm sure you have to sharpen the monster planer, how long would that take? Either way good stuff……and thanks for the video!

  • @ritvikagnihotri8396
    @ritvikagnihotri8396 8 років тому +3

    old school is art for soul

    • @hihikhkh789
      @hihikhkh789 7 років тому

      Ritvik Agnihotri Perfectly said the definition.

  • @LongLLY
    @LongLLY 8 років тому

    Most satisfying video in the world

  • @NightWoodworker
    @NightWoodworker 8 років тому

    Great video... New school is faster but cost a lot. Old school is a lot cheaper and healthier :)

  • @BrianMcCauleyDesign
    @BrianMcCauleyDesign 8 років тому +2

    That was a great comparison. I do sort of a hybrid milling with planes and then my planer for final thicknessing.

  • @leehodge7907
    @leehodge7907 8 років тому

    what the hell was that thing....didn't even know it existed. I thought I wanted a jointer/thicknesser now I want one of those hahaha awesome video as always!

  • @timinniss
    @timinniss 8 років тому +1

    that place must smell so good

  • @zkdcharge
    @zkdcharge 8 років тому

    love everything you post can't wait for more

  • @Detomidine
    @Detomidine 8 років тому

    If I was working on a project, I'd do it with that cool monster but if I was just watching you I'd prefer to see you use those traditional tools ;)

  • @hiiflip
    @hiiflip 8 років тому

    These How to build blank videos are so cool😂😂😂😂

  • @danielmahan4400
    @danielmahan4400 7 років тому

    can you show how you sharpen your tools love your videos

  • @natemarkiewicz4018
    @natemarkiewicz4018 8 років тому

    I like your videos a lot man plz keep making them!

  • @bighamman
    @bighamman 8 років тому

    what's more important in a piece, consistent quality, or personality?

  • @alfredferri13
    @alfredferri13 8 років тому

    awesome video could you do a video on how to sharpen lathe tools I've have a ton of trouble with it lately. like maybe hand sharpening vs machine?

  • @themkhgha
    @themkhgha 8 років тому

    he talked!!!😃 great channel keep it up.

  • @טלשדמה
    @טלשדמה 2 роки тому

    working with and planer is a real sport

  • @Patriot4TheTree
    @Patriot4TheTree 7 років тому

    Do traditional woodworkers hunt with muskets?

  • @jasonzvokel6317
    @jasonzvokel6317 5 років тому

    Should show the quality of the boards after. My guess is the traditional method gave you a glassy smooth surface while the other was filled with tiny planer marks

  • @cyndyloguercio
    @cyndyloguercio 8 років тому

    that's crazy how fast it was!

  • @tonysalazeur3542
    @tonysalazeur3542 8 років тому

    I wonder if he does anything with all those extra wood shavings or if he just throws them out

  • @PatchworksWorld
    @PatchworksWorld 7 років тому

    Tad late to the show but would be pretty cool to see more like this but with narration describing what is going on and why.

  • @nickaccardi5551
    @nickaccardi5551 7 років тому

    Damn! that s4s wadkin is rad.

  • @kylecook8570
    @kylecook8570 8 років тому

    Love the content AR. Keep it up

  • @LiteScratch
    @LiteScratch 8 років тому

    Awesome! It's not private anymore!

  • @westvita2532
    @westvita2532 8 років тому +1

    He speaks! And Mayor is like - whatever......

  • @hypnolobster
    @hypnolobster 8 років тому

    How many passes did it take on the moulder? I've always wondered what kind of depth of cut those can really do.