@@oofballz4328 You sound ridiculous. Then you're also saying that arbitrary enforcement is justified. And this was not only profiling, but it was also stereotyping.
Probably because the driver has a tendency to drive without his license in his possession and talk back to cops. Behaviors like that indicate someone who has had run ins with the law before.
When the police department makes an announcement that they're doing an investigation into one of their officers. Translation that means they're not doing a damn thing. And when the police department says the dead police officer is on administratively leave. Translation paid vacation that is what It ministered of Leave means.
Thankfully, that is no longer always the case. I’ve seen many instances of police departments punishing their cops when they get out of line. I saw a recent video, although I think it’s from a year ago, of them man who was rash just for sitting on a bench in front of some candles. That well him having to go, do some sort of de-escalation training class and then give a presentation to all of his fellow officers. I thought that was excellent.
on thanksgiving last year a BM shot a car load of five people killing one, and the suspects wife and daughter were in the truck watching all this. just because of road rage.
This happens everyday all day in LA they look for any reason as small as as a dim light or a broken license plate light to search your car. Refuse and they break your window and take you out. Whats new?
Yep and in Oklahoma. In pottowatomie county the deputies will follow you if you have a tribal tag or look like you are in a financial plight and figure out a way to stop you.
Anything they can see from plain view is legal...but they have no right to pull a person out of their car and search their whole car simply because you forgot your driver's license at home
Wrong. Driving without being in possession of a driver's license is a criminal violation. Legally, the Officer can arrest. Common practice is to remove the driver, and conduct a search of the car subsequent to a lawful arrest. You may not like it, but that doesnt matter.
Not much of a punishment or deterrence if the administrative leave is paid. More of a bonus vacation time. The blue line of douchebaggery earning the hate every day.
Ktla, your team should do an interview with Bay Area Transpercy so the public can see and understand the mental state and health of the public Servant's. Bad policing is a nationwide pandemic. We, the people, must open education camps for all public servants and help them. It should be mandatory that the public servants get reminded every payday, " Your deposit was brought to you by the people and aka taxpayers."
I've heard this phrase "administrative leave" so often, I decided to find out what it means. Here's one definition I found (of course there's others but this one kinda got my attention: "Administrative leave - also known as home assignment - temporarily relieves an employee of their normal job responsibilities. The employee is asked to remain at home during regular work hours but continues to receive regular pay and benefits." That doesn't sound like a penalty to me.
stop it fam. people forget their driver license sometimes. And, if you own the vehicle that you are driving, when they run your tag, the owner's info comes up along with the driver's license, insurance info, current registration and they have access to the members in your household. And, the guy had his license number memorized (I do as well and I suggest you do).
Just got pulled over yesterday for having tinted windows in Anaheim. My front windows are not tinted at all. Just have full tattooed sleeves, shaved head and Mexican. SMH.
I got charged with speeding, failing to stop for an emergency vehicle & driving without a licence (my 3rd time). I beat it. Where I live they can search your car now but I would never give anyone my consent before.
@@reh3884 it is. It's called the plainview doctrine. Now an intrusive search of the vehicle, ie. removing passengers and combing through the contents of a vehicle is only legal under probable cause or consent (never consent to anything, eg. searches, field sobriety tests, ANYTHING), and they stretch the definition of probable cause quite thin with their K9 "hits". Also, remember in all situations, they can't exercise additional detainment to wait for a k9. The K9 must arrive in the normal time it takes to dispel the initial probable cause for the stop, ie. writing a ticket for the tint, speeding, whatever it was. That's from Rodriguez v US.
he wasnt driving illegally u complete idiot. he made an honest mistake and forgot his driving license at home. the cop could've just asked for his info and give him a ticket for driving without having license on him. This is what any cop in europe would do. US police is just full of overweight powerhungry people with no real education,
@@LSniumAgreed, but that doesn’t really feel like the point of this video, it’s like pointing at a kid when they’ve done something bad in school saying then they should’ve behaved, but entirely missing the point of the parents using excessive force (abuse) to discipline them, the correlative factor here obviously not being their age.
Stereo types are true. Sucks but they are. And next time you went to do adult things like drive , make sure you have your license JR. So sick of every body claiming racism.
So whites being racist, smelling like wet dog, sleeping with their cousins and sisters, sleeping with animals are all true? That is what you're saying... right? Or are stereotypes only true for non-whites? Hmmmm.
Excellent expert she is calling like it is …. And to the driver please stay in school and continue to study 📖 because your a leader and a example and not a prison slave
The Kid is right COPS and others don't see black people as humans it's good to know this 💯so don't expect it🎯 understand this too people U can't get what's not there🆘the sooner it's understood the better and clearer ALL THINGS becomes
I don’t engage. I produce in silence. If I don’t have it. I’ll tell them I left it home and will give them my driver license id number. I don’t answer questions that aren’t relevant to the stop.
@@reh3884 wrote the person, no one said anything it was written 🫠 Not too good at english? You must have gone to college amirite? 👏👏👌😆 At least you tried ROFLMAO
I would like to see the whole video. But the “prison” comment was unquestionably inappropriate. And if the cop truly had probable cost to search a scar, he would’ve just started searching rather than asked. But if a cop tells you to get out of the car, you have to get out. That’s the law. Pennsylvania v Mimms.
Good. I’ve still have to go into bhpd for several months to see if this racist cop files the ticket he gave me. For driving backwards. Into a parking spot. He followed me to my spot and prevented me from opening my door with his motorcycle. Racist.
I suppose EVERY TIME I go to the grocery store and see African Americans SHOPLIFTING, if I say something I suppose I’m profiling. 🤷🏼♂️🤔🤷🏼♂️🤔🤷🏼♂️🤔🤷🏼♂️
@@sharonmccalla9924 When 14% of the population is responsible for most violent crime, including over 50% of all murders, it stops being a stereotype. Do you understand now?
Can white people be racially profiled. I'm white but have been stopped twice when listening to latin music windows down. What do we do? Sue when it happens?
No hardworking, law abiding Afro-American is against police. In fact, we understand and value police. Some of the toughest gun and drug laws currently on the books today were modeled after Washington DC laws, which were the response to afro-American police leadership passing on the concerns of decent Black folks within their communities to law makers. They wanted the thugs out too! The problem was and still is, cops coming into these communities treating everyone the same. They don't care to try to make a distinction between thugs and decent people. Years of this kind of treatment is why decent Afro-Americans are turning on police with no other viable option for public safety.
My opinion is: Obviously unprofessional conduct by this particular law enforcement officer. That's grotesque behavior that can be felt by all people of color. However, it's serious matter driving around in any vehicle without a driver's license and with your whip (aka vehicle) riding dirty (aka: tinted window issues, brake,exterior constant, and/or turning signal lights out) . Most people don't do it. I mean would you allow an airline pilot to fly or surgeon to operate without a license? People generally don't think the same thing with cars and believe they are safe but bring behind the wheel that can injure you and/or others and at worst take yours or others lives -is pretty serious and you need the license to demonstrate some sort of proficiency -aka you passed the State requirements. It's pretty cool knowing that my dude went to Berkeley but from my point of view, seems to have forgotten some sort of common sense (carrying a Driver's License and having illegally tinted windows) on that fateful day. Don't get me wrong but BOTH people are to blame. It's like the paradoxically best and worst of both worlds colliding with one another for this type of news entertainment emotional triggering headline
Oh come off it! The driver had his driver's licence number memorised! All the cop has to do is search the number and all the relevant information is on there. This isn't 1975; we don't need to carry paper records of things because they're recorded on databases. You're comparing this driver not carrying an irrelevant, unnecessary physical licence with a pilot flying without a licence at all. You're either hugely under-informed on how records are stored these days or you're being disingenuous. The cop was completely in the wrong. No question.
poc harass innocent people of other races all the time i witnessed myself, the blacks jump mexicans for no reason, and vice versa, the hispanics and blacks harrass orientals and semitic people, even attacking or killing them without provocation. and it happens frequently. what goes around comes around.
@@jaredburgess8381 In California, you must have a valid driver's license in your possession in order to legally operate a motor vehicle. You are obviously under informed on the law. Drop your ego and do research before you reply to people.
@@-Nickname- 😂 What a fkng cretin! There are thousands of laws that we would all break every single day if they were enforced to the letter. The whole reason behind having a driver's licence is so that the driver understands road rules and knows how to operate a motor vehicle. This driver clearly had passed his licence and all the cop had to do was look it up on his on-board computer. You're too stupid to understand that concept, obviously.
Let me guess, they investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing? And for his troubles, the cop was given a paid vacation.
I’m not condoning it, but you can’t really blame the cops for conducting racial profiling
@@oofballz4328 You sound ridiculous. Then you're also saying that arbitrary enforcement is justified. And this was not only profiling, but it was also stereotyping.
@@oofballz4328Loser!
Why did he sarcastically say prison? This cop needs to be severely disciplined or fired. How many people has he railroaded in the past.
because the kid looks like your typical modern day violent criminal. if he looked like a typical hells angel you could assume the same thing.
cops are dealing with the criminals and 911 calls everyday so they start to notice patterns over time.
Probably because the driver has a tendency to drive without his license in his possession and talk back to cops. Behaviors like that indicate someone who has had run ins with the law before.
@@-Nickname-lol found the cop
@@meatspin. In the video? Yeah, we all can see him.
When the police department makes an announcement that they're doing an investigation into one of their officers. Translation that means they're not doing a damn thing. And when the police department says the dead police officer is on administratively leave. Translation paid vacation that is what It ministered of Leave means.
Thankfully, that is no longer always the case. I’ve seen many instances of police departments punishing their cops when they get out of line.
I saw a recent video, although I think it’s from a year ago, of them man who was rash just for sitting on a bench in front of some candles. That well him having to go, do some sort of de-escalation training class and then give a presentation to all of his fellow officers. I thought that was excellent.
My uncle is a cop and he told me, they can make up any excuse to pull us over and we really cant stop it.
Tell us something we don't know.
We see it in how many videos where they change up their reasoning and change the narrative in their reports
@@mr.dj1ssir245 it's SAD but they can play with someone Life because they are 🥱 bored 💔
@@robertdavis4408 Beyond sad, fu@ked up, and yet they get away with it under the guide of "good policing".
Did he tell your they’re not trusted or respected?
They’ll tell you that they can’t make any illegal stops too 😂
I am glad to see an expert stating how the cops are wrong instead of excusing their behaviour
In my state it's an arrestable offense. Sounds wrong to me but it is califlake ya.
@@chrispery9002spoken like a true extreme right-wing Nazi piece of trash
If you don’t think this wasn’t racial profiling, you might take a close look in the mirror
Its definitely profiling i live in costa meza and you rarely see black people.. this is what you call a pre-text stop🛑
on thanksgiving last year a BM shot a car load of five people killing one, and the suspects wife and daughter were in the truck watching all this. just because of road rage.
@@infintypluswhat was the point of your stupid rebuttal?
This happens everyday all day in LA they look for any reason as small as as a dim light or a broken license plate light to search your car. Refuse and they break your window and take you out. Whats new?
Yep and in Oklahoma. In pottowatomie county the deputies will follow you if you have a tribal tag or look like you are in a financial plight and figure out a way to stop you.
You bet nothing will happen. If they investigate themselves.
It's happening everywhere in the country. NO SEARCH UNLESS THERE'S A WARRANT.
Always make sure the warrant is signed by a judge. Funny how they sometimes forget that one little detail.
SCOTUS would disagree with you.
Plain view doctrine bucko
Cop may be wrong, but tinted windows and not having your drivers license on you is stupid as well
@Alej so being an uncle tom instead of standing up for yourself and making a complaint is the right thing to do ?
You've never forgotten your wallet? I have, and the cop said, "no problem" and just took my information.
Anything they can see from plain view is legal...but they have no right to pull a person out of their car and search their whole car simply because you forgot your driver's license at home
Wrong.
Driving without being in possession of a driver's license is a criminal violation. Legally, the Officer can arrest.
Common practice is to remove the driver, and conduct a search of the car subsequent to a lawful arrest.
You may not like it, but that doesnt matter.
Calling out racism whe you get called out for your actions, Please.
Not much of a punishment or deterrence if the administrative leave is paid. More of a bonus vacation time. The blue line of douchebaggery earning the hate every day.
Ktla, your team should do an interview with Bay Area Transpercy so the public can see and understand the mental state and health of the public Servant's.
Bad policing is a nationwide pandemic. We, the people, must open education camps for all public servants and help them. It should be mandatory that the public servants get reminded every payday, " Your deposit was brought to you by the people and aka taxpayers."
You can’t drive without a license.
I've heard this phrase "administrative leave" so often, I decided to find out what it means.
Here's one definition I found (of course there's others but this one kinda got my attention: "Administrative leave - also known as home assignment - temporarily relieves an employee of their normal job responsibilities. The employee is asked to remain at home during regular work hours but continues to receive regular pay and benefits."
That doesn't sound like a penalty to me.
means go home put your feet up while we sweep it under the rug
**paid vacation**
There, fixed it.
Good luck to him ! Glad he’s safe ❤️
HERE WE GO AGAIN 😂
Costa Mesa going to investigate itself!
You have to have your drivers license on you while you’re driving. 🤔 That’s the whole point of having a drivers license.
stop it fam. people forget their driver license sometimes. And, if you own the vehicle that you are driving, when they run your tag, the owner's info comes up along with the driver's license, insurance info, current registration and they have access to the members in your household. And, the guy had his license number memorized (I do as well and I suggest you do).
this is true
This all started with tinted windows . Then no physical driver’s license.
Go figure
Statistics is Science
What is the outcome of this complaint
How tedious !
Just got pulled over yesterday for having tinted windows in Anaheim. My front windows are not tinted at all. Just have full tattooed sleeves, shaved head and Mexican. SMH.
What about any other windows? Any window of the vehicle can not be overly tinted or it's illegal. Even if it's just a single rear passenger window.
I got charged with speeding, failing to stop for an emergency vehicle & driving without a licence (my 3rd time).
I beat it. Where I live they can search your car now but I would never give anyone my consent before.
Prison wow wtf
To be fair it is legal to look in any car window in public
Looking through a window is not the same and going up to them with a flashlight and looking around.
Right but the issue was not locking in, he wanted to search his vehicle, pay attention
@@reh3884 it is. It's called the plainview doctrine. Now an intrusive search of the vehicle, ie. removing passengers and combing through the contents of a vehicle is only legal under probable cause or consent (never consent to anything, eg. searches, field sobriety tests, ANYTHING), and they stretch the definition of probable cause quite thin with their K9 "hits".
Also, remember in all situations, they can't exercise additional detainment to wait for a k9. The K9 must arrive in the normal time it takes to dispel the initial probable cause for the stop, ie. writing a ticket for the tint, speeding, whatever it was. That's from Rodriguez v US.
that prison comment was not necessary bro..
Do better ktla
So he was driving illegally, surprise.
he wasnt driving illegally u complete idiot. he made an honest mistake and forgot his driving license at home. the cop could've just asked for his info and give him a ticket for driving without having license on him. This is what any cop in europe would do. US police is just full of overweight powerhungry people with no real education,
Everyone in California has their windows tinted.
Lucky he wasn’t 30 minutes away in La they would’ve treated him worse
woooow that prison comment was completely outa pocket wtf
Why doesn't he have a driver's license? Do African Americans have different laws?
They been acting like it, they can also get free items on BLM day.
He has one, but he said he left it at home.
@@Bman846 don’t drive then.
@@LSniumAgreed, but that doesn’t really feel like the point of this video, it’s like pointing at a kid when they’ve done something bad in school saying then they should’ve behaved, but entirely missing the point of the parents using excessive force (abuse) to discipline them, the correlative factor here obviously not being their age.
He is allowed to look but can't go into the car without probable cause
Stereo types are true. Sucks but they are. And next time you went to do adult things like drive , make sure you have your license JR. So sick of every body claiming racism.
Are bad stereotypes about white people true?
@@Bman846 yes , some off-course but not all. Same with every other race. It’s just what it is
I agree, and I'm a BW 🤷
So whites being racist, smelling like wet dog, sleeping with their cousins and sisters, sleeping with animals are all true? That is what you're saying... right? Or are stereotypes only true for non-whites? Hmmmm.
This is absolutely the worst “bc I’m black” I have ever seen.
Racial Profiling obviously reduces crime.
Administrative leave, a paid day off, a holiday.
Unfortunately after the "Internal" investigation, they will find no wrong doing.
Excellent expert she is calling like it is …. And to the driver please stay in school and continue to study 📖 because your a leader and a example and not a prison slave
Driving without a license is a misdemeanor, isn't it? That's grounds to search the car in my state. Gotta be 100% right before you stir it up.
Condescending tone of this cop is typical especially when stopping a black motorist!
There's a new law that was passed last year cops can't stop you for no good reason they are not doing their job
Driver, required to have a driver's license, didn't have one. Cop should be commended for stopping this driver. The cops behavior was normal.
But what did the driver say? That was left out though
Name the Supreme Court case , she couldn't.
Where’s your license kid! You people need to stop breaking the law and claiming it’s racism!
It's illegal to have your windows tinted, it's illegal to not have your driver's license what you're driving what the h***'s discrimination.
The Kid is right COPS and others don't see black people as humans it's good to know this
💯so don't expect it🎯 understand this too people U can't get what's not there🆘the sooner it's understood the better and clearer ALL THINGS becomes
Bro ! You need to have a licence driver, when you're driving a car.
I’m sorry, where’s the racial profiling?
why dont you have your drivers paperwork you know these people are devils
Administrative leave is their safe haven. Zero accountability!
I’m getting ready to file major lawsuits
I don’t engage. I produce in silence. If I don’t have it. I’ll tell them I left it home and will give them my driver license id number. I don’t answer questions that aren’t relevant to the stop.
Let me tell you what will happen to the unprofessional man with a badge. Nada nothing. He will probably be promoted.
My family member got his car towed because he was driving without a license...
Hes lucky he got his black card
After the investigation into themselves no wrong doing was found
He should have been fired
Who is "WE" ?
Is it legal to drive in California without my cdl on my person NO 🇺🇸🤠😂😂😂
Dude knows literally nothing, of course he went to college 😂.
Says the person who wrote a run-on sentence.
@@reh3884 wrote the person, no one said anything it was written 🫠 Not too good at english? You must have gone to college amirite? 👏👏👌😆 At least you tried ROFLMAO
Pretextual nonsense. Tint. This is the worst part of policing.
Lmfao always the race card
This is your Government America
And there's people in this country who think racism does exist? That was straight up racism .
These thugs with badges will not stop people, be prepared and record.
Damn so many people didnt listen to the dialogue in the video. The cop said the black man studied in prison. 😮
Best to not make yourself look so obvious to a point where the police is being invited over
That roque police overseer needs tobbe fired
I would like to see the whole video. But the “prison” comment was unquestionably inappropriate.
And if the cop truly had probable cost to search a scar, he would’ve just started searching rather than asked. But if a cop tells you to get out of the car, you have to get out. That’s the law.
Pennsylvania v Mimms.
Sorry bro, but Berkeley is not the number one public university....Michigan is...
So🤔
What prison? Tented windows?
This cop is fishing? Tented window stops are typically B.S.
He's not Anticop? I am!!!!!
So Sensitive !!!! Lol 😂 😂
We investigated ourselves and found out .......well nothing really, oh and we don't care. You will obey
God’s blessed
the good cops
Devil 👿 blessed
The bad cops
i am not anti cop but i am now.
Why you got tinted windows, what you trying to hide?
What’s new? Fortunately, the cop didn’t beat him to dead.
And then riots start BLACK LIVES MATTER! BLACK LIVES MATTER! *CRASH* *ALARM* *SHOOTING SOUNDS* *POLICE SIRENS*
cops dont do that unless your resist arrest or start mouthing off to them.
Yeah whatever…the police are looking into it.
He baited him and he bit
Bad cops need jail time
COP IS WRONG BUT KID IS A CLOWN HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE UR LICENCE AND KNOW THAT THE DEVILS ARE OUT TO GET US
Good.
I’ve still have to go into bhpd for several months to see if this racist cop files the ticket he gave me. For driving backwards. Into a parking spot. He followed me to my spot and prevented me from opening my door with his motorcycle.
Racist.
KTLA 5 THE POLICE CHANNEL!
I suppose EVERY TIME I go to the grocery store and see African Americans SHOPLIFTING, if I say something I suppose I’m profiling. 🤷🏼♂️🤔🤷🏼♂️🤔🤷🏼♂️🤔🤷🏼♂️
found nothing wrong
Stereo typing needs to bloody stop.
It's not a stereotype if always true.
@@avenue8822 look a sterotype is saying someone is doing something because of their colour. Do you understand now.
@@sharonmccalla9924 When 14% of the population is responsible for most violent crime, including over 50% of all murders, it stops being a stereotype. Do you understand now?
All talk no action take, due your so call investgation....
If it works 🤷🏿
Can white people be racially profiled. I'm white but have been stopped twice when listening to latin music windows down. What do we do? Sue when it happens?
No hardworking, law abiding Afro-American is against police. In fact, we understand and value police. Some of the toughest gun and drug laws currently on the books today were modeled after Washington DC laws, which were the response to afro-American police leadership passing on the concerns of decent Black folks within their communities to law makers. They wanted the thugs out too! The problem was and still is, cops coming into these communities treating everyone the same. They don't care to try to make a distinction between thugs and decent people. Years of this kind of treatment is why decent Afro-Americans are turning on police with no other viable option for public safety.
Payed vacation
Plain view doctrine.
My opinion is: Obviously unprofessional conduct by this particular law enforcement officer. That's grotesque behavior that can be felt by all people of color. However, it's serious matter driving around in any vehicle without a driver's license and with your whip (aka vehicle) riding dirty (aka: tinted window issues, brake,exterior constant, and/or turning signal lights out) . Most people don't do it. I mean would you allow an airline pilot to fly or surgeon to operate without a license? People generally don't think the same thing with cars and believe they are safe but bring behind the wheel that can injure you and/or others and at worst take yours or others lives -is pretty serious and you need the license to demonstrate some sort of proficiency -aka you passed the State requirements. It's pretty cool knowing that my dude went to Berkeley but from my point of view, seems to have forgotten some sort of common sense (carrying a Driver's License and having illegally tinted windows) on that fateful day. Don't get me wrong but BOTH people are to blame. It's like the paradoxically best and worst of both worlds colliding with one another for this type of news entertainment emotional triggering headline
Oh come off it! The driver had his driver's licence number memorised! All the cop has to do is search the number and all the relevant information is on there. This isn't 1975; we don't need to carry paper records of things because they're recorded on databases. You're comparing this driver not carrying an irrelevant, unnecessary physical licence with a pilot flying without a licence at all. You're either hugely under-informed on how records are stored these days or you're being disingenuous.
The cop was completely in the wrong. No question.
poc harass innocent people of other races all the time i witnessed myself, the blacks jump mexicans for no reason, and vice versa, the hispanics and blacks harrass orientals and semitic people, even attacking or killing them without provocation. and it happens frequently. what goes around comes around.
why shouldnt they profile the groups who commit the majority of violent crimes. also it wouldnt kill some of these people to learn how to drive.
@@jaredburgess8381 In California, you must have a valid driver's license in your possession in order to legally operate a motor vehicle. You are obviously under informed on the law. Drop your ego and do research before you reply to people.
@@-Nickname- 😂 What a fkng cretin!
There are thousands of laws that we would all break every single day if they were enforced to the letter. The whole reason behind having a driver's licence is so that the driver understands road rules and knows how to operate a motor vehicle. This driver clearly had passed his licence and all the cop had to do was look it up on his on-board computer.
You're too stupid to understand that concept, obviously.