Andy Burnham wants a limited enquiry, so he can rig the terms of the enquiry to protect himself. Tony Blair did the same thing with the Iraq enquiry. Standard Labour playbook. Labour should have no part in these enquiries cause they are responsible for this mess.
@TheTeach56 I'd suggest that Andy Burnham has checked his diaries and is sure there is nothing he has done that would have any of the Child Sexual Exploitation scandal stick to him.
It was in the manifesto of Nick Buckley MBE that was running against him in the mayoral elections last year and Nick had great support for that reason .
Burnham reading the room not for the girls or justice but for his own power push and a recovery of his career. I hope his actions do some good for the situation , but not for him politically, he is part of the Labour problem.
We’d have to get the ECHR out of British Law, it was wound into them by Tony Blair (the gift that keeps on giving). The courts have supremacy over parliament, that’s why rαριsts have a right to family life and can’t be deported and why Gina Miller could take the government to court to try and prevent Brexit.
I agree. However, Starmer was one of the people responsible for bringing the ECHR to the UK. He helped train many of the judges and lawyers, and literally wrote the book they work from. As long as he's in office, we'll never leave.
@@peterbrown1144 We started the ECHR it was called European Convention on Human Rights in 1950 then in 1959 EU adopted it European Court of Human Rights and thats how its know today
Or limited to not looking at ethnic origins of the perpetrators, or certain areas like the cps, so starmer isn't implicated, I think this is what you mean by cover up though?
No chance of that happening, they’re all complicit in this as they are with everything else, they stick together like glue. They protect each other no matter what, religion always first, their culture and way of life is polar opposite to Britain, the mind boggles why it was ever allowed here in the first place, obviously sinister plans at play, why would the once greatest country on earth allow this if it not
June Slater ALSO pointed out LIMITED enquiry too. Give her a listen she is a super lady and on the ball. I learn so much from her, she is absolutely brilliant 👏 ❤
It would be the same if Sadistic Khunt wanted to call for 'limited enquiry' so he could cover uo all his cousins and his own crimes on such a massive scale.
Why do most of the people on these shows keep stating how British kids “were” raped? When in reality they are “still” being raped, this is still happening more than it was before as there’s more of them here. Should be no islam in Britain
Burnham very brave. Neck out. Raja Miha may have a different take on his personal involvement? A man to look up for sure is Raja. Like Tommy Robinson, has put literally his life on the line. Knows Oldham situation in spades.
Why is our useless Chancellor RR still in Post? as her Budget has Failed as slammed by B of E and OECD? She needs to resign NOW! Find a real economist! Support the OAP’S, WASPI's and the FARMERS.
Let’s hope this information goes viral. Perhaps that is why 2TK is attacking Elon as he knows the very dodgy stuff that his Party have covered up to get votes from the Muslim community.
Burnham and Streeting have both started their leadership campaigns in recent weeks. It's what I would have done if I was them. Burnham has the stronger position, because Streeting can be sacked and dismissed to the outer darkness, whereas Burnham is untouchable as mayor.
💯. I hope this information gets out …no MSM will touch it but he’s been on Mahyur Tousi and The Spectator….perhaps the best is that Elon is aware of his work now.
Strangely Manchester itself hasn't ie Manchester, Salford, Trafford- which like other big cities not having them (ie hiding them) is as sinister as hell. Rochdale and Oldham is supposedly the nearest its got.
Years ago, Burnham proposed a limited enquiry into grooming in Oldham, but his limitations were very restrictive. Schools, for instance, were excluded when it was widely known that that school gates were significant locations for miscreants to pick up young girls. In the 1970s, I used to go 10 pin bowling in the west end of Newcastle and there was a significant Asian population there then. St Albans has a significant Bangla Deshi population as a result of menial employment in local factories in the 70s and 80s. Few of the Bangla Deshi employees could read or write in any language and the local Imam could not understand Engish.
He’s putting in a trot for the leadership! He knows Liebour will be in wilderness country for a “few” years with time to become an mp & bide his time. However, if he’s implicated in any inquiry if starmer U turns that’s the gamble.
Its not about instincts, its about not allowing an inquiry as it will allow the skeletons to come out of the closet, shining a light on Starter, CPS, Labour, Labour MP's, Labour Councillors, Labour Police Commissioners, end of!!
Wildfires? Poor forrest management where small burn offs have not been allowed to occur leading to a buildup of debris. Flooding? Stop paving over everything-use permeable surfaces instead-plant more trees (which will capture carbon), and stop building on floodplains.
The problem is they are borrowing to give it out in foreign aid, that's before you even look at the uk finances. Also the billions spend on migration again before you even look uk finances. Massive borrowing before looking at how the country funds. Not rocket science
Much better but he should now have said it was limited but been clear this was to go across the country, root out and bring criminal charges against all those involved from ministers, home office, councils, social workers, and police and judiciary. It should be a place victims can come too. I do believe the home office should be abolished, and most of them there should lose their jobs and and a new patriotic home land security headed by a hard nosed anti-illegal immigration department should be in place. Laws brought in to abolish freebies for illegals and leave the ECHR if action is not taken against it.
I'm in Manchester. The city centre is a disgrace, junkies, alcoholics sleeping in doorways even in the main shopping areas. Andy Burnham was a promising candidate to lead the Labour party years ago but I think if you can't make a positive impact as mayor of a city then you have no chance leading the party and country. Burnham had his chance to take on the subject of the Grooming gangs, I doubt he's need now. Let other more dedicated people deal with it Andy. You should maybe try to improve Manchester.
Whilst the majority of muslims do no harm, I don't see the condemnation of bad muslims by the majority of good muslims, this is particularly surprising to me as they hold religion so important in their lives. Some of these rapists walking the streets are still welcome into their communities and some are defended by their communities. I think there are concentric circles or degrees of fanaticism within muslim communities where they may not commit atrocities but quietly support or accept it.
As someone who lives in Manchester Burnham has ruined our city……. Multi million pound bike lanes cutting the city centre in half…. Sorry but Burnham isn’t that smart he’s correct in this issue but a broken clock is right twice a day
There's no mainstream far right bandwagon people are having enough of all this anti British government and policy and being sick of being lied to and not listened to this is coming to a head and will be the turning point of British politics hopefully
If I was a White parent of daughters in Manchester I would move out and make sure I move to an area that was away from this influence that is proving disruptive.
But why is Mick Lynch retiring at 62, is it because he fears there will be no money in the pension pot if he waits till he is 67. Train drivers take note.
You don't need a public Enquiry that will just make Lawyers and Judges rich that will go on fore ever. You a really simply need an exclusive Police Unit setting up, preferably with former retired officers. This unit would be totally seperate from all Police Forces and no one but the head of this unit should have authority. They should be tasked with for instance - that Rotherham father who was arrested by Police trying rescue his daughter - records will still exist of that incident and so they should go after those officers. It is said either Gordon Brown or then Home Secretary Jaqui Smith sent an email or guidance to all police forces that these men having sex with under age girls should not be arrested as it was consensual - under 16 year olds cannot consent Gordon?Ms Smith - it rape. If that document can be found then either gordon brown or Jaqui Smith or both should be arrested and charged. Once you start arresting top people watch the mood music change. Then change the laws: - 40 years for grooming and rape. Charge men who wait outside of girls Schools harrasing them. Repeal the Human Rights Act as obviously it does not apply to these young girls and most of us. Leave the ECHR. But of course they wont since this grooming scandal hides a lot more that goes higher.
Burnham has made the first move, which I believe is a defensive move against the storm of what will come when the details his involvement in the cover up come out.
Andy is complicit in the grooming. Gang cover up he is just trying to cover his own back because he can see what's going to happen and he doesn't want to be locked up for his involvement in it. This is why he wanted a limited inquiry no we want a full inquiry in to the people who covered this up and who did it we want them in the same cell.
There’s no reason to “diss” Mick Lynch. He’s the kind of working class Old Labour character who didn’t agree with New Labour including Starmer. His arguments, opinions and ideas were sensible balanced and common sense
downstairs neighbour sent me a bill 4 new lock on door, even tho it was her lodgers who caused the damage & she didn't tell us how much it was goin 2 b before carrying out the 'installation'. she said she will not 'chase' me 4 it, but i am still left a lil 'uncomfortable', with this flying above my head, with respect???
Going to China just before Trump takes office won't go down well with the US. Bad timing for the UK😂😂😂. That national inquiry is the only way to get those voters back if ever. Are 👽allowed to vote 🤔
I don't know enough about Andy Burnham, but I hope he is calling for an inquiry for the right reasons. The (now) women that were children and the children still being raped by these Pakistani/Muslim gangs. That would be the right thing to do, if 'EVERYONE INVOLVED' was brought in front of a court for the victims of rape to see justice and closure to this horrendous and continuous depravity that these children over twenty odd years had to deal with... They lost, what should have been, their childhoods with no protection or help from people that should have made it matter.
s'not v generous here, i can tell us. Eg, it is a disgrace that the local administration will not grant us (myself and the occasional bug that dares to trespass this 'property') a balcony that i can actually use, no???
The government put them up there when they came. They’ve since then tried to spread migrants around but by then those communities have got settled in to those areas
Andy Burnham wants a limited enquiry, so he can rig the terms of the enquiry to protect himself. Tony Blair did the same thing with the Iraq enquiry. Standard Labour playbook. Labour should have no part in these enquiries cause they are responsible for this mess.
Well said 👍
nailed it
See Raja Miah on this..he’s worked on exposing the gangs and the cover ups in Oldham for 6 years.
NO LIMITED inquiry! Any Burnham making the first move to save his skin.
I’ve heard a limited means it won’t last years & years but I don’t care how long it takes as long as it gets to the full truth !
@TheTeach56
I'd suggest that Andy Burnham has checked his diaries and is sure there is nothing he has done that would have any of the Child Sexual Exploitation scandal stick to him.
It was in the manifesto of Nick Buckley MBE that was running against him in the mayoral elections last year and Nick had great support for that reason .
@@wjf0ne Not what Raja Miah says
Burnham is up to his neck in it.
Plus, I can make his hair look better when he goes to court...the least I can do for a liar...his hair system is very bad.
Yes totally agree. He turned a blind eye alright.
Better to be called a RACIST
...... N' PROTECT yer own .....
Than be called a "COLLABORATOR"
....... N' BETRAY yer own .......
Yes that is 100% true
Well said.
Burnham reading the room not for the girls or justice but for his own power push and a recovery of his career. I hope his actions do some good for the situation , but not for him politically, he is part of the Labour problem.
Leave the ECHR, NOW. AND GET SOME SANITY AND JUSTICE BACK IN THIS COUNTRY.
We’d have to get the ECHR out of British Law, it was wound into them by Tony Blair (the gift that keeps on giving). The courts have supremacy over parliament, that’s why rαριsts have a right to family life and can’t be deported and why Gina Miller could take the government to court to try and prevent Brexit.
I agree. However, Starmer was one of the people responsible for bringing the ECHR to the UK. He helped train many of the judges and lawyers, and literally wrote the book they work from. As long as he's in office, we'll never leave.
Ignore the ECHR. All the other European counties do FFS
@@peterbrown1144 We started the ECHR it was called European Convention on Human Rights in 1950 then in 1959 EU adopted it European Court of Human Rights and thats how its know today
You want your current crop of judges to have even more power to jail centre right citizens. Oh dear.
The cracks start to appear.
" We have met the enemy, and he is us "--British Government
Limited inquiry stands for "cover up"
Or limited to not looking at ethnic origins of the perpetrators, or certain areas like the cps, so starmer isn't implicated, I think this is what you mean by cover up though?
Burnham wants the top spot and smells blood, knows Starmer is historically unpopular and will probably remain so.
Has Sadiq condemned his brothers? Silence is deafening! ☠️
No chance of that happening, they’re all complicit in this as they are with everything else, they stick together like glue. They protect each other no matter what, religion always first, their culture and way of life is polar opposite to Britain, the mind boggles why it was ever allowed here in the first place, obviously sinister plans at play, why would the once greatest country on earth allow this if it not
Khan defended l in tooting when he was a lawyer for Pakistani gangs .
Advocate Khan that says a lot
What his friends 😂😂😂😂
@@charlietreston4035 Defended 1?
June Slater ALSO pointed out LIMITED enquiry too. Give her a listen she is a super lady and on the ball. I learn so much from her, she is absolutely brilliant 👏 ❤
No we need a criminal investigation nationwide to uncover this disgusting episode in our countries history.
National emergency. Not inquiry .
The changes aren't just in the Northern towns - we are suffering this in the Midlands.
Survival instincts from someone with a shady past and his snout in the trough.
Burnham oversees the areas where these things are happening. 🤷♂️
This Tory guy is actively lying because he definitely knows about the Manchester grooming gang report
It would be the same if Sadistic Khunt wanted to call for 'limited enquiry' so he could cover uo all his cousins and his own crimes on such a massive scale.
Why do most of the people on these shows keep stating how British kids “were” raped? When in reality they are “still” being raped, this is still happening more than it was before as there’s more of them here.
Should be no islam in Britain
Burnhan putting himself forward to take over from Starmer, i wouldn't trust him as far as i could throw Lammy
How 'helpful' was Andy Burnham in helping Maggie Oliver set up a Manchester Office Address? Answer: Not Very!
Not limited FULL enquiry ffs.
Limted enquiry no good full enquiry
Burnham very brave. Neck out. Raja Miha may have a different take on his personal involvement? A man to look up for sure is Raja. Like Tommy Robinson, has put literally his life on the line. Knows Oldham situation in spades.
Very impressive interview on Tousi TV.
Brave men to speak out.
I was shocked at names mentioned
If we do get an enquiry, it wont be a fair one for the girls.
Tipex prices will go through the roof as the enquiry will use gallons if it.
Why is our useless Chancellor RR still in Post? as her Budget has Failed as slammed by B of E and OECD?
She needs to resign NOW!
Find a real economist!
Support the OAP’S, WASPI's and the FARMERS.
Hasn't Starmer got to go somewhere? Usually has , especially with Southport coming up.
Expect hes getting his running shoes ready as we speak...
Davos opens in 2 weeks , he's hosting Macron that his country grave and favour mansion and Rachel has taken the company jet to China
Listen to Raja Miah about Andy Burnham
I did and was disgusted that the Labour Party was complicit in the cover up.
Let’s hope this information goes viral. Perhaps that is why 2TK is attacking Elon as he knows the very dodgy stuff that his Party have covered up to get votes from the Muslim community.
Burnham and Streeting have both started their leadership campaigns in recent weeks. It's what I would have done if I was them. Burnham has the stronger position, because Streeting can be sacked and dismissed to the outer darkness, whereas Burnham is untouchable as mayor.
Streeting is defending such a small majority, he’ll do nothing to rock his own boat.
@@BigBenn2014 Right facts, wrong conclusion. If he just goes with the flow, he's toast at the next GE. He can't play safe and be safe.
Ask Raja Miah about Andy Burnham
💯. I hope this information gets out …no MSM will touch it but he’s been on Mahyur Tousi and The Spectator….perhaps the best is that Elon is aware of his work now.
"Within touching distance of some of these towns"
Like Manchester itself that has convicted numerous gangs🤷♀️
Strangely Manchester itself hasn't ie Manchester, Salford, Trafford- which like other big cities not having them (ie hiding them) is as sinister as hell. Rochdale and Oldham is supposedly the nearest its got.
People have spoke about how Burnham had been complicit in blocking actions on this, in his area, in years past.
Keiro Fiddles While The UK Burns
Years ago, Burnham proposed a limited enquiry into grooming in Oldham, but his limitations were very restrictive. Schools, for instance, were excluded when it was widely known that that school gates were significant locations for miscreants to pick up young girls.
In the 1970s, I used to go 10 pin bowling in the west end of Newcastle and there was a significant Asian population there then. St Albans has a significant Bangla Deshi population as a result of menial employment in local factories in the 70s and 80s. Few of the Bangla Deshi employees could read or write in any language and the local Imam could not understand Engish.
He’s putting in a trot for the leadership! He knows Liebour will be in wilderness country for a “few” years with time to become an mp & bide his time. However, if he’s implicated in any inquiry if starmer U turns that’s the gamble.
Burnham has ambition to replace Starmer , he failed to beat Miliband and as never forgot what he saw as a snub
It's Baltic in Scotland. Coldest day yet
How can a fair public inquiry be lead by the same people that were involved in the cover-up?
Its not about instincts, its about not allowing an inquiry as it will allow the skeletons to come out of the closet, shining a light on Starter, CPS, Labour, Labour MP's, Labour Councillors, Labour Police Commissioners, end of!!
Burnham and raynor were also behind the cover up.
Thatcher wanted controlled borders , so by tidays wike standards, she would be far right , well that’s me far right then 😊
Andy Burnham is just as guilty as the rest, he is also complicit to the coverup of these crimes!!! ⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️👁️
Its a bid for premiership, he smells blood
Rotherham is nowhere near Manchester it's like saying Brighton is London
Rochdale is near Manchester though
Rotherham is smaller than greater Manchester and as less Asian taxi drivers
@ durrrrrrrrr
Wildfires? Poor forrest management where small burn offs have not been allowed to occur leading to a buildup of debris. Flooding? Stop paving over everything-use permeable surfaces instead-plant more trees (which will capture carbon), and stop building on floodplains.
The problem is they are borrowing to give it out in foreign aid, that's before you even look at the uk finances. Also the billions spend on migration again before you even look uk finances. Massive borrowing before looking at how the country funds. Not rocket science
There will be handouts somewhere along the line. All corruption.
Not a single Muslim has stepped forward to condemn the gangs 🤔
Except Raja Miah
Did you think they would???🙄🏴🇬🇧
Dempsey will give Free Gear more of a headache than Mick Lynch. Andy Burnham is positioning himself to replace Free Gear when the opportunity occurs.
Much better but he should now have said it was limited but been clear this was to go across the country, root out and bring criminal charges against all those involved from ministers, home office, councils, social workers, and police and judiciary.
It should be a place victims can come too.
I do believe the home office should be abolished, and most of them there should lose their jobs and and a new patriotic home land security headed by a hard nosed anti-illegal immigration department should be in place. Laws brought in to abolish freebies for illegals and leave the ECHR if action is not taken against it.
I remember Andy when he was in Oxford
I bet Mick Lynch went away with a great pension, paid for by us, the taxpayer.
Is he trying to cover his back more like ?
I'm in Manchester. The city centre is a disgrace, junkies, alcoholics sleeping in doorways even in the main shopping areas. Andy Burnham was a promising candidate to lead the Labour party years ago but I think if you can't make a positive impact as mayor of a city then you have no chance leading the party and country. Burnham had his chance to take on the subject of the Grooming gangs, I doubt he's need now. Let other more dedicated people deal with it Andy. You should maybe try to improve Manchester.
a petition is needed
Petition with over 3 million signatures
to replace this dishonest government debated last Monday , any one know how that went ?
Trying to control the narrative springs to mind.
Burnham covering his own ack
TR has the best instincts....
Whilst the majority of muslims do no harm, I don't see the condemnation of bad muslims by the majority of good muslims, this is particularly surprising to me as they hold religion so important in their lives. Some of these rapists walking the streets are still welcome into their communities and some are defended by their communities. I think there are concentric circles or degrees of fanaticism within muslim communities where they may not commit atrocities but quietly support or accept it.
As someone who lives in Manchester Burnham has ruined our city……. Multi million pound bike lanes cutting the city centre in half…. Sorry but Burnham isn’t that smart he’s correct in this issue but a broken clock is right twice a day
There's no mainstream far right bandwagon people are having enough of all this anti British government and policy and being sick of being lied to and not listened to this is coming to a head and will be the turning point of British politics hopefully
Well done Andy.
Maybe not …see Raja Miah on him.
But their coysins are still swarning in..
If I was a White parent of daughters in Manchester I would move out and make sure I move to an area that was away from this influence that is proving disruptive.
It’s in more areas then u can imagine
Burnham is a hypocrit he's trying to save his carrier
yes i am sitting comfortably, thank you. i have decided that am officially, 'sick'. carry on.
Burnham must have known all about this otherwise he doesn't live on this planet
See Raja Miah
FAR RIGHT !? well right means CORRECT so Far Right means Very Correct whereas FAR LEFT = VERY WRONG.
But why is Mick Lynch retiring at 62, is it because he fears there will be no money in the pension pot if he waits till he is 67. Train drivers take note.
Bradford must be just a town full of taxi drivers 🥴👀🙈
You don't need a public Enquiry that will just make Lawyers and Judges rich that will go on fore ever. You a really simply need an exclusive Police Unit setting up, preferably with former retired officers. This unit would be totally seperate from all Police Forces and no one but the head of this unit should have authority.
They should be tasked with for instance - that Rotherham father who was arrested by Police trying rescue his daughter - records will still exist of that incident and so they should go after those officers.
It is said either Gordon Brown or then Home Secretary Jaqui Smith sent an email or guidance to all police forces that these men having sex with under age girls should not be arrested as it was consensual - under 16 year olds cannot consent Gordon?Ms Smith - it rape. If that document can be found then either gordon brown or Jaqui Smith or both should be arrested and charged.
Once you start arresting top people watch the mood music change.
Then change the laws: - 40 years for grooming and rape. Charge men who wait outside of girls Schools harrasing them.
Repeal the Human Rights Act as obviously it does not apply to these young girls and most of us. Leave the ECHR. But of course they wont since this grooming scandal hides a lot more that goes higher.
Burnham has made the first move, which I believe is a defensive move against the storm of what will come when the details his involvement in the cover up come out.
allowed themselves to be captured by a group they imported against repeated mandates.
Does 'working class' mean thick
"Limited" ie redactions, redactions, redactions.
Good morning mike
Good analysis here..
Is this about protecting girls and women or is it about race?
Sadly I expect both.
I don't see how it can be separated.
And we are paying for it.
I am not a Labour supporter but ,go,Andy,go. He would make a far better Prime Minister and i may be able to accept him. 👏🙏
Nice to see Frank Sidebottom back ✌️
Wow... i knew this lot would'nt last long but the speed of destruction is breathless !
Andy is complicit in the grooming. Gang cover up he is just trying to cover his own back because he can see what's going to happen and he doesn't want to be locked up for his involvement in it. This is why he wanted a limited inquiry no we want a full inquiry in to the people who covered this up and who did it we want them in the same cell.
There’s no reason to “diss” Mick Lynch. He’s the kind of working class Old Labour character who didn’t agree with New Labour including Starmer. His arguments, opinions and ideas were sensible balanced and common sense
A "limited" enquiry means free access to one area and access denied to other areas. Is Burnham advocating for a 2 tier cover up?
downstairs neighbour sent me a bill 4 new lock on door, even tho it was her lodgers who caused the damage & she didn't tell us how much it was goin 2 b before carrying out the 'installation'. she said she will not 'chase' me 4 it, but i am still left a lil 'uncomfortable', with this flying above my head, with respect???
Stalin Starmer might call Andy a far right now. It’s a joke! 🇬🇧
Going to China just before Trump takes office won't go down well with the US. Bad timing for the UK😂😂😂. That national inquiry is the only way to get those voters back if ever. Are 👽allowed to vote 🤔
Burnham has probably deleted all information linking him to this scandal, so thats why hes shouting for an inquiry
I’ve noticed, Khan hasn’t said anything.
I wonder why 🤔
Andy Burnham - sounds good , but I suspect and expect that you are part of the problem
Yep Burnham must be far right
What is the reason for an enquiry if we already had one. I thought they created actions points to fix it? Shouldnt they be implemented?
The victims and the country want justice for last cover ups , old inquiry only told what the public already knew.
All Treasonous Traitors
I don't know enough about Andy Burnham, but I hope he is calling for an inquiry for the right reasons. The (now) women that were children and the children still being raped by these Pakistani/Muslim gangs. That would be the right thing to do, if 'EVERYONE INVOLVED' was brought in front of a court for the victims of rape to see justice and closure to this horrendous and continuous depravity that these children over twenty odd years had to deal with... They lost, what should have been, their childhoods with no protection or help from people that should have made it matter.
"this is wrong & i'd like it 2 b investigated," yes, exactly! star 4 Benedict!
s'not v generous here, i can tell us. Eg, it is a disgrace that the local administration will not grant us (myself and the occasional bug that dares to trespass this 'property') a balcony that i can actually use, no???
The government put them up there when they came. They’ve since then tried to spread migrants around but by then those communities have got settled in to those areas
He's manoeuvring for a leadership bid I reckon...
Better instincts, from what I have heard, he is no innocent in this rape gangs crap.
Bradford is now the city of culture 😂
What culture are they celebrating?Its definitely not English culture 😱😱
Lynch has got his payoff and he’s gone. Well done all you union members. You do the hard yards and someone else profits.