That type of bulb is still very common in the marker lights on cargo vehicles at least here in Europe, even though the newer ones tend to have LED's. I'm a truck mechanic and I have replaced dozens of those, both 12 and 24 volt ones
Yes, many auto parts stores sell LED versions of these 194 type automotive bulbs, commonly used by dome lights, license plate lights, and parking (city) lights.
Nice project I love that. When I got my first led watch around 1973 or 4 we would all watch at 9-59 in the French class, to see the digits change, as you did lol. Forgot that simple pleasure
These type automotive bulbs are number 194, or 168. I believe the bulb wattage is the only difference between the two. They do make LED replacement bulbs that already have a wide angle COB type LEDs that face sideways. They are called flank mount.
Yeah, using wide-dispersion LEDs (e.g. frosted, rather than beam-formed) may yield the desired even illumination. After all, the original incandescent bulbs are omnidirectional.
Reversible non-permanent repairs are awesome. And well they do produce LED retrofit replacement they're not on hand, and this gives so much more options.
I had one of those when I was a teenager (my mom worked as Sears). I guess it being a gift was the only reason I never took it apart to see how it worked!
I saw the number on one of the bulbs as was being used as a soldering stand. It's a 259, which is 6.3v... It's actually the wedge base variant of the 44. I've only encountered these in electronics, as they came on the scene after the 6v automotive era was over. Another common 6 volt wedge base bulb is the 159, which is equivalent to a 47.
I think part of the appeal of something like this for me (aside from it being awesome and mechanical) is the fact that it is lit by incandescent lights and NOT LED lights like every other clock out there.
This is like the "infinite improbability drive" for clocks. Cross from 4 to 5 with a 0 and a 6 in between. Would drive some of my more OCD friends nuts. 😅👍
Good source of light difusers are old led or plasma TVs from trash. Its very easy to dismantle them and get this diffusing sheets out. They are also very good as a disposal protection for your desk.
Those incandescent car lamps, or wedge bulbs are what we use, or USED TO use rather in arcade games for coin lights and some playfield lights. The ones you have look like maybe #161 or #656 bulbs for 14v. Could be #555, 6.3 volt. Pinball back in the day used the ones you were talking about, are bayonet style, or twist in. Most arcades use LED bulbs, but are still wedge mostly. I have a pinball machine, Xenon, I just ordered some lamps for to finish restoring it, with incandescent style to give it a warm light look
Instead of soldering the led´s at the same height of the board, you can put those in both sides closer to the board to compensate the board being in that angle and yes maybe 2 rows of led´s for each digit.
Fran this is the coolest clock display and movement I've ever seen. Clever conversation you did there 😃. Time to go eBay hunting for one of these. Thanks for showing!
I like the incandescent shattering look.. But i wonder if you were to line the area with aluminum tape, if the light from thr led's will make a shattering effect? But.. Its just a clock..so id be fine with how it is. It works fine.❤
You make soldiering look easy. I've only tried soldiering like 5 times, but it never sticks like a soldiered joint should. I dont understand the paste flux tinning part either, because it doesn't seem to matter how I paste or how much I paste , the joint just pulls apart.
Awesome! Those LEDs look interesting. Do you recall the part number by any chance? You gave me the idea to convert bunch of IEE one-plane displays I have.
I don't have any reference but you can find those kinds of narrow beam packages anywhere - and One Plane displays already have lenses in front of each lamp for convergence so you don't need that in the lamp.
Fran you gotta work on more compelling titles, ask a question, create a prompt, introduce the type of video in the title! "WILL IT LIGHT??" "What's inside?" etc.
Hi Fran the bulb has what is called a "wedge base" with one looped wire contact bent over and exposed on each opposing side.. Love your show. I personally like the electronics break downs the best! You have a great ability to describe in detail what your doing.. LOVE IT..
I think building green LEDs into this clock is not original. Maybe warm white LEDs could be used to reduce power and heat. Actually good warm white LEDs for free can be taken out of broken LED retrofit bulbs. Often all ofo the LEDs are okay but there is something wrong with the driver. Or just one of them in the string has gone open circuit...
I'm so grateful I found this channel. It's tough locating classic style youtube channels with the dumb algorithms ruining everything. It reminds me of a pbs documentary.. it has that vibe. Which I love.
That type of bulb is still very common in the marker lights on cargo vehicles at least here in Europe, even though the newer ones tend to have LED's. I'm a truck mechanic and I have replaced dozens of those, both 12 and 24 volt ones
Yes, many auto parts stores sell LED versions of these 194 type automotive bulbs, commonly used by dome lights, license plate lights, and parking (city) lights.
Hot-melt glue works surprisingly well as a diffusor. Used that and paper to led mod various things over the years.
I so love seeing you back on the bench working on an interesting project. Thank you so much.
Nice project I love that. When I got my first led watch around 1973 or 4 we would all watch at 9-59 in the French class, to see the digits change, as you did lol. Forgot that simple pleasure
These type automotive bulbs are number 194, or 168. I believe the bulb wattage is the only difference between the two. They do make LED replacement bulbs that already have a wide angle COB type LEDs that face sideways. They are called flank mount.
Yeah, using wide-dispersion LEDs (e.g. frosted, rather than beam-formed) may yield the desired even illumination. After all, the original incandescent bulbs are omnidirectional.
I wanted to see how crisp I could get the segments with a tighter beam... But I'll likely go to incandescent instead.
Reversible non-permanent repairs are awesome. And well they do produce LED retrofit replacement they're not on hand, and this gives so much more options.
I love how you say ‘reflect-or’ like Worf says ‘sens-ors’!
I had one of those when I was a teenager (my mom worked as Sears). I guess it being a gift was the only reason I never took it apart to see how it worked!
I saw the number on one of the bulbs as was being used as a soldering stand. It's a 259, which is 6.3v... It's actually the wedge base variant of the 44. I've only encountered these in electronics, as they came on the scene after the 6v automotive era was over. Another common 6 volt wedge base bulb is the 159, which is equivalent to a 47.
Maybe some parchment paper used as a diffuser
A matte white card as reflector behind the LED's might fill in a bit more. In any case, enjoyed the work and results, thank you!
Bleat! That direct yet not overbearing "go" trafficsignal glow! 💚
That display is really something. Like dark sorcery
I think part of the appeal of something like this for me (aside from it being awesome and mechanical) is the fact that it is lit by incandescent lights and NOT LED lights like every other clock out there.
It's so wonderful to watch you: you make sense in a world of nonsense
This is like the "infinite improbability drive" for clocks. Cross from 4 to 5 with a 0 and a 6 in between. Would drive some of my more OCD friends nuts. 😅👍
What a fun little project!
It is smart to restomod that thing with LEDs as incandescent bulbs will become harder to come by as time goes on.
Good source of light difusers are old led or plasma TVs from trash. Its very easy to dismantle them and get this diffusing sheets out. They are also very good as a disposal protection for your desk.
Those incandescent car lamps, or wedge bulbs are what we use, or USED TO use rather in arcade games for coin lights and some playfield lights. The ones you have look like maybe #161 or #656 bulbs for 14v. Could be #555, 6.3 volt. Pinball back in the day used the ones you were talking about, are bayonet style, or twist in. Most arcades use LED bulbs, but are still wedge mostly. I have a pinball machine, Xenon, I just ordered some lamps for to finish restoring it, with incandescent style to give it a warm light look
Instead of soldering the led´s at the same height of the board, you can put those in both sides closer to the board to compensate the board being in that angle and yes maybe 2 rows of led´s for each digit.
Maybe the bottom is a little dim due to the actuator arm blocking some light.
Fran I think it looks really good maybe I will have to do that to my GE clock radio !
Fran this is the coolest clock display and movement I've ever seen. Clever conversation you did there 😃. Time to go eBay hunting for one of these. Thanks for showing!
The fran-effect running up the going price 😅❤🕰️
You can use sandpaper on LEDs to bust up their finish so that their light is bulb-like.
Now it is a LED display 🙂
2:04 these are called wedge bulbs
Maybe rubber bands to pull the pcbs back to the plane of the support. Pull the leds back and spread the light cone a little.
I like the incandescent shattering look..
But i wonder if you were to line the area with aluminum tape, if the light from thr led's will make a shattering effect?
But..
Its just a clock..so id be fine with how it is. It works fine.❤
You make soldiering look easy.
I've only tried soldiering like 5 times, but it never sticks like a soldiered joint should.
I dont understand the paste flux tinning part either, because it doesn't seem to matter how I paste or how much I paste , the joint just pulls apart.
Aren't those Fresnel lenses focused on the position of the filaments?
Your video was the first that appeared today 🤓
Could you make a clip to hold the edges of the boards back or use a small dowel rod piece to apply pressure to push them back?
you coul design and 3D print a new holder for you leds
Awesome! Those LEDs look interesting. Do you recall the part number by any chance? You gave me the idea to convert bunch of IEE one-plane displays I have.
I don't have any reference but you can find those kinds of narrow beam packages anywhere - and One Plane displays already have lenses in front of each lamp for convergence so you don't need that in the lamp.
@@FranLab Makes sense. Thank you so much!
Fran you gotta work on more compelling titles, ask a question, create a prompt, introduce the type of video in the title! "WILL IT LIGHT??" "What's inside?" etc.
get some 194 bulbs
Hi Fran the bulb has what is called a "wedge base" with one looped wire contact bent over and exposed on each opposing side.. Love your show. I personally like the electronics break downs the best! You have a great ability to describe in detail what your doing.. LOVE IT..
Hmm why the gloves?
Sticky dust makes my skin crawl, lol. Sensory things.
Who say "bulb" in the 2:25? The new IA that make comments??
I think building green LEDs into this clock is not original. Maybe warm white LEDs could be used to reduce power and heat. Actually good warm white LEDs for free can be taken out of broken LED retrofit bulbs. Often all ofo the LEDs are okay but there is something wrong with the driver. Or just one of them in the string has gone open circuit...
Fran, your videos are coming out great. I wouldn't worry about it.
Love these sort of videos. Soooo looking forward to you discombobulating this mechanism to see how it works!
Thanks Fran!
I'm so grateful I found this channel.
It's tough locating classic style youtube channels with the dumb algorithms ruining everything.
It reminds me of a pbs documentary.. it has that vibe. Which I love.
I don't think you should tear it down. It will be gone forever. 😟
Very cool.
I f at first you don't try , succeed again oops
if at first you don't succeed , try again .
❤️🔥FRAN❤️🔥
Saying "Don't blow up" doesn't always work for me.
That prayer: "don't blow up" made me chuckle
Gratitude 👍👍🫡
Also, mild degreaser might be best for cleaning it. Probably was in a kitchen in its past