These real World vids are really great for anyone who has yet to experience driving an EV. If you are someone (like me) who already drives an EV, Richard is your man or if you plan to upgrade to another EV. In my case I sold my older TESLA MS for a new one. I had been made a part-ex offer by TESLA but the day before I was due to hand it in and take delivery of my new MS, I received a call from Richard to say he had two potential buyers. I drove straight down to him, I returned by train to London, but before I had even got to my destination, I got the call from him confirming he had sold it for £5k MORE than my part-ex price, and the money was in my a/c by the next day. RESULT ! Thank you so much Richard (and just for the record , no I’m am not being paid or bribed by him to say this 😀)
Great to see the Model S - mine is exactly the same, 2020 LR, 19” and even in pearl white! My real world range 100 - 0% is 380 miles so an interesting comparison. Bladder anxiety ALWAYS trumps range anxiety!
You are doing a wonderful service by showing “real world” traveling videos. Most of us with no EV ownership experience are so bombarded by FUD by parties who want to scare or confuse us about actual EV ownership that there is always anxiety. To be honest, I don’t envision that I’ll ever need to drive 600mi in one drive so this video alone is appreciated. Also, as a guy who lives in California...I find it enjoyable to see the countryside of the UK.
Love the channel Richard. So happy with my M3P. Had it for nearly 2 years now with zero issues. Did a trip down to Lake Anncey last year and it was a piece of cake. This car is so easy to live with. I now have a electric van on order to replace my pickup truck for work.
not bad, but on June 14 I drove my LRDM Model 3 from Victor, Idaho to Oakland, California....887 miles. Took 15.5 hours including the charging stops....same as with previous gas cars. 4 charging stops. Piece of cake. The car is an awesome long distance cruiser.
I agree. The tech is there. The price isn’t. It’s all well and good if you can afford that 100kw/hr Tesla….. I’m a big believer. I just don’t have the cash to back up my beliefs.
My longest drives in petrol cars - America : from Orlando to Key West in November 2009 which is about 400 miles - UK : The Midlands up to Fort William in Scotland for an MTB trip, about 420 miles Both drives we needed to stop several times for comfort and refreshment breaks. I'd be happy doing the same trips now in my EV.
Been banging on about this point for years now. EVs need to last longer than your bladder. Simple as that. My bladder range (healthy, 37 yr old) is approx 3-4 hours, so 200-280 miles. On my last trip (810 miles, gasoline car), longest stretch was 210 miles.
That's like my normal drive. We have a 2021 model 3 sr+ we got at christmas. 950km days when we drive at least a few times a month. 14000km on it now, and we are in lockdown. Love it. Will drive it more when things open up. We are in northern Canada - there isn't anything that's less than a 120km round trip.
The presenter asked about similar trips in the States and I have one to relate. I drove my Tesla Model 3 Performance on the 578 mile trip from Atlanta, Georgia to St. Louis, Missouri to visit my Mom for Christmas, 2020. I have made this trip more than 20 times over the years in ICE cars driving 80-85 mph and stopping once at the 300 mile mark in Clarksville, Tennessee to refuel, use the toilet and eat. (I guess my bladder holds out longer than most, and there were times when my kids threatened mutiny and we had to stop earlier for a toilet break). Short story is the total time for this trip in my Tesla took about 60-90 minutes longer than my previous trips in ICE cars and trucks. Traveling 75 mph on Autopilot from 100% SOC allowed me to make the 240 mph journey from Atlanta to Nashville, Tennessee and maybe have 10 miles of range to spare. I had to make 2 more stops to charge for the rest of the journey. As this video shows, heavy rain lowers range about 25 percent, as do the subfreezing temperatures I encountered in Illinois and Missouri. My take is that if you feel like you must drive 80-85 mph for 300 miles or more without taking a break, and you an your passengers have the bladders to do that, electric cars at present can't match that trip. But if you are satisfied to make a long road trip taking breaks every 2-3 hours and feel that cruising at 75 mph is fast enough, a long day road trip in a Tesla will be just as good as any ICE car, perhaps even better because the quiet and the Autopilot make for such relaxing travel.
Good video……I have driven our 2017 Model X, 100D from Chicago, Illinois to Tifton Georgia in 1 day. That was a 900 mile trip & took us 19 hours with 5 charging stops. The next day we finished our trip to Miami Beach, Florida, another 750 miles. My wife (parrot, Ares) and I have made this trip 3 times. The Tifton Georgia trip was the longest continuous drive. Typically, we try to keep it right around the same 600 mile mark you did in your video. That makes for a very doable but long trip. Thanks for showing people these types of trips can be done in an EV.
Great real world advice Richard. Sound like 220 miles in unfavourable conditions and 300 I'm favourable is the sweet spot for normal travelling between pit stops as in the real world people don't go 500 miles between comfort breaks.
Kansas City to Chicago Il or Kansas City to Denver. Made kc to Chicago in the winter with my model 3. Don’t remember how long but just when I needed a break.
Great job with this real-world test, I drove my Model 3 Performance down to Monaco from where I live in Cumbria last year, Supercharger to Supercharger with ease and I usually only ran down to about 30% as after maybe 2.5 to 3 hours of driving I needed to stop for a bathroom break, to stretch, and to grab a snack anyway. People forget how often most people stop on long journeys when they're thinking about charging an EV. It's not like you need to be stood there with a fuel pump in your hand, you just plug it in and go do whatever then get shocked by the "Supercharging nearly complete, late fees may apply" message as you're jogging back to the car or raising the charging limit. 😅
What a lie! Why would I spend 25 minutes on a charger to get the car to 60 percent charge??? None of this is going to help climate change one bit! No thank you! My gas car is what I will drive!
Excellent video of real world use!! I do a trip for work every year from Philly to Nashville and back (800 miles each way), last year we were in an F150 ecoboost with a 36 gallon tank (730 miles of range) so one stop for gas but we stopped twice anyway so this car would be brilliant on a drive like that.
I do a yearly run from southern Michigan to northwest Wisconsin, right around 550 miles. My laughably slow charging Chevy Bolt can make that trip in about 11 hours.
Thank you so much for your detailed videos on EV’s. I wasn’t at all interested in them until very recently when looking for a car on the mobility scheme on behalf of my sister in law. Hyundai had the electric Kona on a special offer with a very small upfront charge and all the weekly mobility allowance. I took it for a test drive and I was smitten. She is now awaiting delivery! I have an Audi Q7 50TDI and absolutely love it but thanks to your insightful videos my next car is ‘electric’. I truly believe range anxiety is no longer the issue it was and with a bit of luck Tesla will up their game and improve the build quality (paint and body gaps in particular). Please keep up the good work as I find your manufacturers/model comparisons extremely helpful and informative.
It must be so nice to know the Tesla chargers will be working when you get there plus more than one charger per site, that would give me confidence to go further. Right now we use the ZE50 for local trips and the PHEV for longer trips as our 7 years of EV ownership has taught us not to depend on commercial chargers. Once we can afford a 300 mile BEV maybe then……just got to wait for the Chinese to get them over here at the right price !
@@RSEV i haven’t attempted to use an ecotricity pump in months as they never work. It’s just such a mess chargers should all work off a debit card nothing else will convince some folk to go BEV. My Mrs won’t use anything but our home charger and a couple of pod points we use on a regular basis……the rest, forget it, just too flaky and not enough units at each location
@@RSEV I’ve used a few of these, cracking kit….just need more of them. Traveled from Halifax to Scarborough, nothing on the A64, a few 7Kw chargers at Monks Cross then nothing until Scarborough, pretty thin coverage
@@RSEV even in the US tesla owners sometimes have trouble charging their cars when charging stations are all occupied on their trips, it doesn't happen all the time but it surely happens. And towing is not really a thing with EVs.
What would be VERY INTERESTING is do return in another comparable ev using the other charging network. I don’t use super chargers much hug the fact they are there is so comforting. The thought of doing that journey not knowing where to charge and if the chargers worked would be dreadful. Great video as ever and you are right, anyone who says they don’t need to stop is either lying or a danger on the road.
Richard drove up to Inverness to test drive that Audi E-Tron GT RS back down the way, check out that video. I suspect there will be another video comparing the two in the way down next.
I really like your videos. I have a Model S 85D thats 5-6 years now. Do you have any plan for a video to show service/repair on an older Tesla like mine? I just wonder what kind of repairs and services I will need soon on my Model S, so it would be interesting to see a video about that.
@@kristianp.405 agreed... but unfortunately I need to be able to fit a powered wheelchair and assorted other bits in the car. Currently got an Audi A6 Avant which is ideal but something equivalent in an EV is out of my price range. 🙁
@@TheUgleyCrafters Try looking for a USED MODEL S or MODEL X 5 SEATER. It may need some work or replacements like the screen that functions must faster and smoother than older S/X screen, you may want to have work done on the interior and the exterior paint protected. Avoid 75D MODEL X it just isn't enough a 75D S can work but an X is just too energy hungry especially older models for a 75kWh battery. So look for a USED 90D that is a sweet spot.
Well my business is to sell used EVs so the more affordable side, but the trouble is they hold their value too much! Used model S down to about £25k now
That coincides with my experience - I once drove 900 miles from Portugal to northern France in 18 hours (that was pushing it for my stamina). 600 miles in a day is easily manageable- when I go on roadtrip I calculate on 500 miles a day in my model X as a comfortable mileage (not too tiring)
I don't care what anyone says, no one does 600 miles in 1 go! Their car maybe can, but they certainly cannot, anyone saying otherwise are either lying or a very dangerous driver. You must take breaks to recharge your own body. The range anxiety is a thing of the past. Question for RSymons, was this free supercharging? If not, what was the cost of this journey?
@Rsymons, nice video and trip. Good to build confidence. Nice trip, I was planning a similar trip from Brighton to Inverness with a Taycan 4S and the efficiency I have been seeing in A Better Route Planner. Traveling 10% over limits, I show 9h1m of driving and 53min of charging in 4 very fast stops between 11m and 16m. Total trip 9h54m, nice to know that you can also accomplish this trip quickly in a non-Tesla. FYI: the recommended charging stops were: Rugby Services, BP in Costa Crow Orchard, Gretna Green Ionity, and Perth Ionity.
Very helpful once again. Thank you. In the near future could you do a video on active cruise control driving and autopilot on the Tesla’s? You are really providing real world helpful information. We are enjoying all the videos. Cheers
The only thing about those deep discharges to low percentages like 3% it may not be the best for the battery, so personally I'd rather stop slightly earlier. But excellent demonstration of what the car can do!
I live in the US and when I drive from my home in Plover Wisconsin to Breckenridge Colorado, I usually stop in Ogallala Nebraska which is around 860 miles and I do that in roughly 12 hours in my Honda Accord. And that is with most miles at 70 mph and many at 80 mph. I would love to own a Model S but at their price and range limits, I am afraid I will have to wait until solid-state batteries become available.
The Tesla model 3 is more nearly equivalent to the Accord. On a road trip on I80 I did in the fall of 2019 I drove over 800 miles per day on the way from the SF Bay Area to Ohio and that took me just about 12 hours per day, including charging stops. The thing that made that possible was that each day I started with a full charge. I spent the nights at hotels that had overnight slow chargers. That cut out what otherwise would have been a third charge stop on the road.
The biggest issue with EVs is the price and range, a very cheap diesel wagon/estate has over 700 miles of range when the most expensive tesla will have 500.
I would guess that's on par with using a conventional vehicle, however not everyone can afford the latest cars, it would be interesting to see how something like an early leaf performs on a similar journey.
You are right, this long range tesla is very expensive compared to a normal car, a very cheap diesel car in Europe can give you 800 miles+ of range when tesla model S barely gives you 500
Hi Richard I am in the USA north of Manhattan and I currently drive a 2022 tesla model S plaid and I recently just got back from Walt Disney World on a family road trip with my two cousins and the total distance was around 1,300 miles or just over 2,000 kilometers and it was a lot of stops to charge up as my model S plaid gets only 348 miles of range or 560 kilometers and I think next I might look into the lucid air dream edition which has 560 miles of range or about 900 kilometers and cost's $170,000 USD or about 145,000 pounds.
Great review however I can't stop feeling EV Lovers completely miss the Point This is not about Travelling 960 Miles for 15 hours straight , although I could (10 years ago) if I want it Its about having a Choice : 1- When to Stop 2- For How long to Stop 3- And depending you on your Bladder or Station issues to skip a few Stops if you feel like This is simply about Choice . It makes no sense to Pay an Extra near 80k for a slower car (in the real world) which fails to give you a choice Please note is Unlikely your Bladder will be in tune with vehicle range , however if Range is not an Issue than you are in Full Control of the Trip
Or most importantly where to eat. However it's all perfectly doable with an EV, you just have to accept it will take a bit longer than with an ICE, which isn't the end of the world provided you don't take long trips very frequently.
160k? 100 mph? Try that on the UK motorway network for 600 miles and you'll make it about.... 80 miles (?) before either you're on the hard shoulder "having a conversation" with a police officer, or having set off at least one speed camera. Either way that'll be numerous points, or even loss of licence and a hefty fine.
Great video. I have driven from Bristol to Edinburgh quite regularly since 2017 in a 2016 MS and drive just like this. Get the car to suggest the route, adjust to suit stomach and bladder, drive normally. Even with half the range (than the MS long range) the car waits for me rather than the other way around. The worst journeys are the ones that use just over half the capacity but each way is too short for you to naturally stop. With the latest ranges that will be basically gone. Also drove from Bristol to Troyes in 2019 with two, somewhat skeptical, mates. All being both greedy and middle aged we again ended up making the car wait for us. Both mates considering electric as their next car as a result.
Funnily enough, two years ago I drove from my friend's in Pigeon Forge TN to Fogelsville PA in a rental car. 605 miles in 9 hours. Only stopping once for gas and a tinkle near Richmond. Shattered!
Literally did the same journey in my Model S (100D) a few days back and it is indeed simple and quick - did you stay at the Ness Walk Hotel? I ask as that hotel is very close to where you're filming at the end. Lovely place and they've just installed EV chargers!
In America it’s not uncommon to drive 700 miles a day on a trip. We rotate drivers and will stop only for a very short period, to get gas, food, bathroom, and rotate drivers all at once. Obviously you can’t do this if you are driving alone, but something like a family trip it helps having more than 1 driver. I think this is one of the reasons for hesitation for electric cars, that we aren’t used to stopping to charge, but I think the v3 super chargers would help to mitigate that.
@@RSEV those are both very good points, although I do believe that you pay upfront a bit for the cost of the battery vs an ICE car, so you would have to keep the car longer for total car + fuel costs to equalize, on a case by case basis. Nevertheless, electric cars are very cool and undoubtedly the future. I’ve also been enjoying the videos :)
But "had, food bathroom", becomes essentially just "food, bathroom" since the car charges *while* you "empty" and "fill" yourself. Not to mention, even a short break is *much* better for you.
Please try to repeat this drive in some non-Teslas to compare not only the cars and the charging networks but also the decision-making about what charging stations to use on the way.
I pushed it a little, but taking 20 minute breaks every 3 to 4 hours kept it fairly safe - plus, autopilot on long straight empty roads. It was fairly unplanned, with hotel stops unknown until I got tired, and then looked for one with an overnight charger. Once I'd got to Austin I eased up a little, drove over to LA and back up the coast home. It was great fun - I think 925 miles was my single day record, Rawlins WY to Abilene TX before rolling on into Austin the next day. Amazing trip - scenery was incredible. I was on the road for 9 days total, car didn't skip a beat, 5000 miles in total.
I'd be interested to see you do this trip in something other than a Tesla. Do you think the result would be the same without access to Teslas superchargers ?
Thank you... Awesome vlog of the journey. I think the Gridserve /Electric highway collaboration will be a game changer for electric vehicles in the UK. The rugby facility is just awesome and will open the door for longer practical journeys to none Tesla owners.
I agree. A lot of people have found charging frustrating because of Ecotricity. They’ve had a detrimental effect because the chargers were so old and unreliable in the end. Now though those chargers are fantastic. I used rugby for charging audi etron gt and it got 264kw!
@@RSEVi think we must consider though what a huge punt ecotricity took all those years ago and hats off to them for having the vision. We must all be gracious in that respect. I really hope they develop and fulfill the potential of that initial investment. You guys are really leading the education piece on EV transport. Nice work!
Very interesting videos you make. Just a shame you're in the UK, because here on the EU mainland, speed limits are usually higher (120/130Km/H) than in the UK (+/-112Km/H) so not sure how big an influence that would have on the range and the practicality. Maybe after the whole Covid thing passes, you can really do a road trip to the Alps. I'm planning to get me a Model 3 soon, but I'm still undecided between the SR+ and the LR AWD because I have a daily commute of about 230 Km, mostly highway (130 Km/h), and I doubt whether it'll be doable with the SR+.
All batteries receive high charge better when near empty, decreasing more after 60%, mainly due to heat and resistance inside the pack. Next generation cells won't suffer this problem . It's the main advantage of emerging higher voltage systems (800v up from 400v) since the current is halved for similar power. As demonstrated here, once the driver overcomes the "don't stop" fixation, (or has passengers on board!) The car can both outrange the driver *and* "fill" while the driver "empties". This will be the case on even smaller vehicles within 2 years.
Thank you! We’re learning all the time with videos and it’s actually quite hard to keep short and snappy. Great to hear helped you into an EV. That’s exactly what it’s all about
@@RSEV I agree with the poster: watching scenery zoom past is OK for a few minutes but the meat of EV videos is the charging network - especially the non-Tesla ones!
Just put end destination in, it will show the stops it plans. If don’t see, press top of nav screen to show views. You then hit “begin trip” and it shows for that leg.
A few weeks ago did Adelaide to Canberra in one hit in a Tesla SR+. 1,350kms in the lowest range Tesla. No drama. One thing not mentioned: Autopilot takes 80% of the effort away. Long drives are easy.
I like the concept but taking a 100k$ care isn't really viable. Next time chose a VW ID. 3, Opel Mokka-e, Corsa-e, MG 5 EV etc. . Those are the cars most people can buy and these are the people how are sceptic because a car is a big investment for most people. Not everyone can and will buy a car for 50k +. I love EV's and will probably buy the new MG 5 EV when it comes to Germany because it will be around 22-24k€ after incentives.
RSymons driving like Bjorn - UK Niiiinjaaa style but with some help. Please test a budget vehicle too, such as an older Zoe EV or the older Kia Soul, I'm on a tight budget. Also what's it like if you drive from say Manchester to Devon and Cornwall and then around that beautiful area - it seems the nifty chargers are mainly off the motorways. It'll be a breeze in a 60K Tesla but what about an average salary El Cheepo EV driver? At the risk of being a pessimist, we need a lot more chargers for the future or get used to queuing. Thank you.
The easiest way to figure it out is to the take your monthly mileage x the average efficiency x cost per kW. So for example: Charging at home on a nightly tariff, 1,000 miles x 0.3 miles per kW x £0.05 per kW = £15 Charging at a Tesla Supercharger, 1,000 miles x 0.3 miles per kW x £0.26 per kW = £78
@@raymondsmith9936 thank you, & that alone has convinced me that I will get an electric car as they are talking about subsidies for changing your car at work 👍
Not too long ago my wife and I took a 430 mile trip in Arizona USA In our 2021 model Y. We truly only needed one charge but I did take a second charge just to top off. We made it to our destination and used a supercharger which lasted us the rest of the journey, but right before I got home, a distance of about 60 miles or so, I topped off just because. Like a lot of people my wife was worried about the charging infrastructure and had range anxiety but after this trip she completely trusts the Tesla network and the car.
I tend to over ride the Tesla version in many cases purely because it leaves quite a large safety buffer and if bladder is holding out I’ll usually carry on to the next charger anyway... ABRP is good and certainly for non-Teslas can help people with routing
Tesla Model 3 Long Range or Performance has an 8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, drivetrain and battery warranty with minimum 70% retention of battery capacity over the warranty period.
@@RSEV As there will be no new Model S or X this year, how has that affected the 2nd hand prices? Also, do you find much difference in the 2nd hand price of the equivalent Model with unlimited free charging compared to those that don't have this?
A comparable trip from San Francisco East Bay to Phoenix was shown on an EV route planner using a model 3 long range starting at 90% charge, to take about 10 hours and 45 minutes with 6 stops totaling an hour and 45 minutes worth of charging/breaks. An ICE should take about 45 minutes less. The long range model 3 would cost about $55 in E. ICE should cost about $130 in gas. Interestingly older Model S versions can add about an additional hour of charge time. Thanks for posting this realistic trip.
If I ever go for an Electric car it will always be a Tesla if only for the Superchargers but....if I decide to buy a used Tesla, your at the top of that list! Great Video review, I loved it.
Sure, the Supercharger network has the advantage right now, but with an ever increasing number of large charging hubs coming on stream - with many offering 350kw chargers, Tesla's advantage won't remain forever.... As an example, the new Gridserve site at Braintree has around 35 rapid chargers, with several of them being rated at 350kw....
The nay sayers won't watch once it gets past 30 seconds in, because they'll quickly realise that here is someone they can't fool with their relentless cobblers and misinformation.
At motorway speeds in good conditions I got 280 miles (75 kW battery), not taking into account the 20 mile reserve range. In less favourable you are probably looking at 230 miles.
@@raymondsmith9936 sorry. Don't understand the reply. I'm just wondering if the 280/230 miles with a TESLA 3 was with the Standard, or Long Range model?
@@davidhamishwill367 There are three variants of the Model 3, Standard Range Plus (small battery), Long Range ( big battery) and the Performance (big battery), I have the Performance. The Long Range gets a slightly better efficiency as it is the slower than the performance, hence it would go further. Recently, Tesla did a refresh and added a heat pump which is more efficient at heating the cabin, thus if you went for a new Perfomance, it would go further than the mileage I stated.
I drove London to Bordeaux last year with a petrol vehicle (9hrs) and I had to stop at least 3 times just to get a break from driving (each stop around 30min) so I really don't see the difference from driving an EV compared to diesel.
There is a significant difference, depending on who you are and the car you can afford, this is a very expensive tesla unlike cheap diesel vehicles that have over 700 miles of range
Really good inside to long range driving, I normally drive to south of France (1000 - 1200 miles) so nice to say I could do it easy. But what if I didn’t have a Tesla?, using the cheep seats in the charging system not the posh ones. Will that make me go for the Tesla
Yet another great video and proof that in real-world situations, an EV isn't much different to a petrol in regards stops you'd make anyway! Keep up to good work!
You forget that its the most long range/most expensive EV compared to a very cheap used ICE that can do the same trip even faster right! Im not against EV but its the reality here.
@@alanmay7929 True but over the life of the ICE, how much does the fuel cost you Vs an EV? The cost point for an EV just shifts to time of purchase rather than over the life of the vehicle together with less maintenance costs etc. EVs are in their infancy where as ICE cars are at their limit, it's like moving from a well built wooden house to not so well built brick house. Both are capable of the same thing but one is as it's limit and the other is in its infancy.
@@DaveYates81 unfortuntely EVs are still not made for everyone and cars have sooo many uses/applications and also depending on where you live it can be advantageous or not, you can still buy a even 10 years old ICE that still works well and use it for many other years to come, plus there are plugin hybrids too.
Love the colour choice.. white on white.. that will be me in a M3 one day.. might do my own video Wellington to Auckland .. if they let me out of the rest home long enough.. lol
@@RSEV I like your content - very informative, but for my style of driving on longer hauls, I would never stop more than 10-15 minutes tops. When driving to Italy from Scandinavia, we would drive through the night with a cruise speed of 90-100mph where allowed. Pause roughly every 2 hours for 10-15 minutes to refuel, stretch, bio and get cofee. Correct me if I am wrong but pauses would have to be 30-40 minutes from what I am seeing with an EV which would add a couple of hours on top of an already long stretch or we would have to make 2 longer stops to rest instead of just one. Surely it can be done with a little patience, but I still love my diesel for the long stuff. I would love an EV for daily - the Polestar 2 was a very nice experience when ai drove one recently. Maybe the EQS will be the EV to win me over - it seems very impressive :)
Our very own Bjørn Nyland. 😁 He loves a good 1000km challenge...
Great video 👏.
These real World vids are really great for anyone who has yet to experience driving an EV. If you are someone (like me) who already drives an EV, Richard is your man or if you plan to upgrade to another EV. In my case I sold my older TESLA MS for a new one. I had been made a part-ex offer by TESLA but the day before I was due to hand it in and take delivery of my new MS, I received a call from Richard to say he had two potential buyers. I drove straight down to him, I returned by train to London, but before I had even got to my destination, I got the call from him confirming he had sold it for £5k MORE than my part-ex price, and the money was in my a/c by the next day. RESULT ! Thank you so much Richard (and just for the record , no I’m am not being paid or bribed by him to say this 😀)
That’s great! Tesla’s trade-in is pretty poor these days it seems, nice to know there is a good alternative
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Would love a Tesla S LR, amazing, saw the road trip:- Edinburgh to London with no stop for charging brilliant!
Great to see the Model S - mine is exactly the same, 2020 LR, 19” and even in pearl white! My real world range 100 - 0% is 380 miles so an interesting comparison.
Bladder anxiety ALWAYS trumps range anxiety!
You are doing a wonderful service by showing “real world” traveling videos. Most of us with no EV ownership experience are so bombarded by FUD by parties who want to scare or confuse us about actual EV ownership that there is always anxiety. To be honest, I don’t envision that I’ll ever need to drive 600mi in one drive so this video alone is appreciated.
Also, as a guy who lives in California...I find it enjoyable to see the countryside of the UK.
Hi Gus, that’s brilliant and thank you for the kind comments. Happy to show you around the UK as much as possible!
Love the channel Richard. So happy with my M3P. Had it for nearly 2 years now with zero issues. Did a trip down to Lake Anncey last year and it was a piece of cake. This car is so easy to live with. I now have a electric van on order to replace my pickup truck for work.
I have my 75d a month now and love it. I'm already wanting to get a 100d 😂
Enjoyed this! Love all the content you’re producing at the moment Richard. 👏🏼👏🏼
not bad, but on June 14 I drove my LRDM Model 3 from Victor, Idaho to Oakland, California....887 miles. Took 15.5 hours including the charging stops....same as with previous gas cars. 4 charging stops. Piece of cake. The car is an awesome long distance cruiser.
Love those white seats. My model 3 LR with white interior arrives next week 👍
I agree. The tech is there. The price isn’t.
It’s all well and good if you can afford that 100kw/hr Tesla…..
I’m a big believer. I just don’t have the cash to back up my beliefs.
I have a model 3 on order here in the USA, cost just over $40k, that’s the average price of a new car here so they are getting there for sure
My longest drives in petrol cars
- America : from Orlando to Key West in November 2009 which is about 400 miles
- UK : The Midlands up to Fort William in Scotland for an MTB trip, about 420 miles
Both drives we needed to stop several times for comfort and refreshment breaks. I'd be happy doing the same trips now in my EV.
Been banging on about this point for years now. EVs need to last longer than your bladder. Simple as that. My bladder range (healthy, 37 yr old) is approx 3-4 hours, so 200-280 miles. On my last trip (810 miles, gasoline car), longest stretch was 210 miles.
And for the non Tesla’s we need a more reliable network. That holds you back more that the cars.
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That's what the Gridserve/ Ecotricity collaboration is providing. (Electric Highway)
That's like my normal drive. We have a 2021 model 3 sr+ we got at christmas. 950km days when we drive at least a few times a month. 14000km on it now, and we are in lockdown. Love it. Will drive it more when things open up. We are in northern Canada - there isn't anything that's less than a 120km round trip.
You are a natural, Richard. Lovely to see you have a successful UA-cam channel growing beside your big success in New Milton
The presenter asked about similar trips in the States and I have one to relate. I drove my Tesla Model 3 Performance on the 578 mile trip from Atlanta, Georgia to St. Louis, Missouri to visit my Mom for Christmas, 2020. I have made this trip more than 20 times over the years in ICE cars driving 80-85 mph and stopping once at the 300 mile mark in Clarksville, Tennessee to refuel, use the toilet and eat. (I guess my bladder holds out longer than most, and there were times when my kids threatened mutiny and we had to stop earlier for a toilet break). Short story is the total time for this trip in my Tesla took about 60-90 minutes longer than my previous trips in ICE cars and trucks. Traveling 75 mph on Autopilot from 100% SOC allowed me to make the 240 mph journey from Atlanta to Nashville, Tennessee and maybe have 10 miles of range to spare. I had to make 2 more stops to charge for the rest of the journey. As this video shows, heavy rain lowers range about 25 percent, as do the subfreezing temperatures I encountered in Illinois and Missouri. My take is that if you feel like you must drive 80-85 mph for 300 miles or more without taking a break, and you an your passengers have the bladders to do that, electric cars at present can't match that trip. But if you are satisfied to make a long road trip taking breaks every 2-3 hours and feel that cruising at 75 mph is fast enough, a long day road trip in a Tesla will be just as good as any ICE car, perhaps even better because the quiet and the Autopilot make for such relaxing travel.
Good video……I have driven our 2017 Model X, 100D from Chicago, Illinois to Tifton Georgia in 1 day. That was a 900 mile trip & took us 19 hours with 5 charging stops. The next day we finished our trip to Miami Beach, Florida, another 750 miles. My wife (parrot, Ares) and I have made this trip 3 times. The Tifton Georgia trip was the longest continuous drive. Typically, we try to keep it right around the same 600 mile mark you did in your video. That makes for a very doable but long trip. Thanks for showing people these types of trips can be done in an EV.
Great real world advice Richard.
Sound like 220 miles in unfavourable conditions and 300 I'm favourable is the sweet spot for normal travelling between pit stops as in the real world people don't go 500 miles between comfort breaks.
Kansas City to Chicago Il or Kansas City to Denver. Made kc to Chicago in the winter with my model 3. Don’t remember how long but just when I needed a break.
Great job with this real-world test, I drove my Model 3 Performance down to Monaco from where I live in Cumbria last year, Supercharger to Supercharger with ease and I usually only ran down to about 30% as after maybe 2.5 to 3 hours of driving I needed to stop for a bathroom break, to stretch, and to grab a snack anyway.
People forget how often most people stop on long journeys when they're thinking about charging an EV. It's not like you need to be stood there with a fuel pump in your hand, you just plug it in and go do whatever then get shocked by the "Supercharging nearly complete, late fees may apply" message as you're jogging back to the car or raising the charging limit. 😅
What a lie! Why would I spend 25 minutes on a charger to get the car to 60 percent charge??? None of this is going to help climate change one bit! No thank you! My gas car is what I will drive!
Excellent video of real world use!!
I do a trip for work every year from Philly to Nashville and back (800 miles each way), last year we were in an F150 ecoboost with a 36 gallon tank (730 miles of range) so one stop for gas but we stopped twice anyway so this car would be brilliant on a drive like that.
I do a yearly run from southern Michigan to northwest Wisconsin, right around 550 miles. My laughably slow charging Chevy Bolt can make that trip in about 11 hours.
Thank you so much for your detailed videos on EV’s. I wasn’t at all interested in them until very recently when looking for a car on the mobility scheme on behalf of my sister in law. Hyundai had the electric Kona on a special offer with a very small upfront charge and all the weekly mobility allowance. I took it for a test drive and I was smitten. She is now awaiting delivery! I have an Audi Q7 50TDI and absolutely love it but thanks to your insightful videos my next car is ‘electric’. I truly believe range anxiety is no longer the issue it was and with a bit of luck Tesla will up their game and improve the build quality (paint and body gaps in particular). Please keep up the good work as I find your manufacturers/model comparisons extremely helpful and informative.
It must be so nice to know the Tesla chargers will be working when you get there plus more than one charger per site, that would give me confidence to go further. Right now we use the ZE50 for local trips and the PHEV for longer trips as our 7 years of EV ownership has taught us not to depend on commercial chargers. Once we can afford a 300 mile BEV maybe then……just got to wait for the Chinese to get them over here at the right price !
Ignore old Ecotricity. Everything else works fine.
@@RSEV i haven’t attempted to use an ecotricity pump in months as they never work. It’s just such a mess chargers should all work off a debit card nothing else will convince some folk to go BEV. My Mrs won’t use anything but our home charger and a couple of pod points we use on a regular basis……the rest, forget it, just too flaky and not enough units at each location
@@stevenbarrett7648 instavolt always brilliantly simple
@@RSEV I’ve used a few of these, cracking kit….just need more of them. Traveled from Halifax to Scarborough, nothing on the A64, a few 7Kw chargers at Monks Cross then nothing until Scarborough, pretty thin coverage
@@RSEV even in the US tesla owners sometimes have trouble charging their cars when charging stations are all occupied on their trips, it doesn't happen all the time but it surely happens. And towing is not really a thing with EVs.
What would be VERY INTERESTING is do return in another comparable ev using the other charging network. I don’t use super chargers much hug the fact they are there is so comforting. The thought of doing that journey not knowing where to charge and if the chargers worked would be dreadful. Great video as ever and you are right, anyone who says they don’t need to stop is either lying or a danger on the road.
Richard drove up to Inverness to test drive that Audi E-Tron GT RS back down the way, check out that video. I suspect there will be another video comparing the two in the way down next.
Yes exactly, there is a video coming out soon from Carwow comparing the journey back with Tesla v Audi etron get rs
I really like your videos. I have a Model S 85D thats 5-6 years now. Do you have any plan for a video to show service/repair on an older Tesla like mine? I just wonder what kind of repairs and services I will need soon on my Model S, so it would be interesting to see a video about that.
I run an older 2014 s85 in the business fleet so will film anything that has to be done (but it’s all been working fine!)
Teslabjorn/Bjørn Nyland has a great set of videos on repairing an old model S - google: "tesla bjørn bilexperten"
OK, you’ve convinced me! Next car is electric..... just need them to be more affordable now.......🤓
Tesla starts with Model 3 standard range. Great car
@@kristianp.405 agreed... but unfortunately I need to be able to fit a powered wheelchair and assorted other bits in the car. Currently got an Audi A6 Avant which is ideal but something equivalent in an EV is out of my price range. 🙁
@@TheUgleyCrafters Try looking for a USED MODEL S or MODEL X 5 SEATER. It may need some work or replacements like the screen that functions must faster and smoother than older S/X screen, you may want to have work done on the interior and the exterior paint protected. Avoid 75D MODEL X it just isn't enough a 75D S can work but an X is just too energy hungry especially older models for a 75kWh battery. So look for a USED 90D that is a sweet spot.
That journey was easy cause of the supercharging network. It would take forever even in a Taycan probably
Well my business is to sell used EVs so the more affordable side, but the trouble is they hold their value too much!
Used model S down to about £25k now
Great advert for long journey in a Tesla but would you dare to try such with a more affordable non-Tesla car?
That Model S looks stunning
I think they are superb. Bigger than I really need though.
Model S is okay but I think the design looks a little outdated.
Etron GT looks better to me.
@@svenn5089 agreed. Model S long range is good value nowadays.
That coincides with my experience - I once drove 900 miles from Portugal to northern France in 18 hours (that was pushing it for my stamina). 600 miles in a day is easily manageable- when I go on roadtrip I calculate on 500 miles a day in my model X as a comfortable mileage (not too tiring)
Thanks for this, because of your channel my next cars going to be electric.👍🏼
I don't care what anyone says, no one does 600 miles in 1 go! Their car maybe can, but they certainly cannot, anyone saying otherwise are either lying or a very dangerous driver. You must take breaks to recharge your own body. The range anxiety is a thing of the past. Question for RSymons, was this free supercharging? If not, what was the cost of this journey?
Just drove Gap, PA to Dallas TX in a day (25 hours to be exact) which is 1460 miles
Can't imagine driving that distance in my model x
Great video. Where you just using Type 2 charging or did you have the CCS charger as well?
I have drove i december Oslo - Madrid with 12 stops 40 hours on Tesla model 3 dual motor, no sleep.
Great video, showing how much electric cars are improving
@Rsymons, nice video and trip. Good to build confidence.
Nice trip, I was planning a similar trip from Brighton to Inverness with a Taycan 4S and the efficiency I have been seeing in A Better Route Planner. Traveling 10% over limits, I show 9h1m of driving and 53min of charging in 4 very fast stops between 11m and 16m. Total trip 9h54m, nice to know that you can also accomplish this trip quickly in a non-Tesla.
FYI: the recommended charging stops were: Rugby Services, BP in Costa Crow Orchard, Gretna Green Ionity, and Perth Ionity.
You can do 1. Rugby, 2. Gretna and 3. Perth if needed.
Easy...
I did the reverse trip rvently
Sold on ev's quite a while now so collecting my m3p from a little place on queensway on Thursday.
Nice one 😙😉
Very helpful once again. Thank you. In the near future could you do a video on active cruise control driving and autopilot on the Tesla’s? You are really providing real world helpful information. We are enjoying all the videos. Cheers
The only thing about those deep discharges to low percentages like 3% it may not be the best for the battery, so personally I'd rather stop slightly earlier. But excellent demonstration of what the car can do!
I live in the US and when I drive from my home in Plover Wisconsin to Breckenridge Colorado, I usually stop in Ogallala Nebraska which is around 860 miles and I do that in roughly 12 hours in my Honda Accord. And that is with most miles at 70 mph and many at 80 mph. I would love to own a Model S but at their price and range limits, I am afraid I will have to wait until solid-state batteries become available.
There is a guy who did Boston to Florida in a day in MODEL 3 early limited edition version "lima" that has about 260 miles range. Look for it on YT.
The Tesla model 3 is more nearly equivalent to the Accord. On a road trip on I80 I did in the fall of 2019 I drove over 800 miles per day on the way from the SF Bay Area to Ohio and that took me just about 12 hours per day, including charging stops. The thing that made that possible was that each day I started with a full charge. I spent the nights at hotels that had overnight slow chargers. That cut out what otherwise would have been a third charge stop on the road.
The biggest issue with EVs is the price and range, a very cheap diesel wagon/estate has over 700 miles of range when the most expensive tesla will have 500.
I would guess that's on par with using a conventional vehicle, however not everyone can afford the latest cars, it would be interesting to see how something like an early leaf performs on a similar journey.
@@Brian-om2hh according to Google it's 603 miles each way, was it a first generation leaf or a newer one.
You are right, this long range tesla is very expensive compared to a normal car, a very cheap diesel car in Europe can give you 800 miles+ of range when tesla model S barely gives you 500
Wow. That's insane.👏👏👏
Hi Richard I am in the USA north of Manhattan and I currently drive a 2022 tesla model S plaid and I recently just got back from Walt Disney World on a family road trip with my two cousins and the total distance was around 1,300 miles or just over 2,000 kilometers and it was a lot of stops to charge up as my model S plaid gets only 348 miles of range or 560 kilometers and I think next I might look into the lucid air dream edition which has 560 miles of range or about 900 kilometers and cost's $170,000 USD or about 145,000 pounds.
Congratulations, another tour de force video from an honest guy. What a refreshing course to be taking. I like it..
Great video its by fer cheaper with the electric cars because u charged when u stop for lunch and washrooms smart
Hi just watched the video Great as usual one thing how much did the trip cost you to make be very interested in knowing
Great review however I can't stop feeling EV Lovers completely miss the Point
This is not about Travelling 960 Miles for 15 hours straight , although I could (10 years ago) if I want it
Its about having a Choice :
1- When to Stop
2- For How long to Stop
3- And depending you on your Bladder or Station issues to skip a few Stops if you feel like
This is simply about Choice
.
It makes no sense to Pay an Extra near 80k for a slower car (in the real world) which fails to give you a choice
Please note is Unlikely your Bladder will be in tune with vehicle range , however if Range is not an Issue than you are in Full Control of the Trip
Or most importantly where to eat. However it's all perfectly doable with an EV, you just have to accept it will take a bit longer than with an ICE, which isn't the end of the world provided you don't take long trips very frequently.
You're the quickest and still reasonable efficient if you do 160km/h avg. Someone did a spreadsheet on TFF.
160k? 100 mph?
Try that on the UK motorway network for 600 miles and you'll make it about....
80 miles (?) before either you're on the hard shoulder "having a conversation" with a police officer, or having set off at least one speed camera.
Either way that'll be numerous points, or even loss of licence and a hefty fine.
Great video. I have driven from Bristol to Edinburgh quite regularly since 2017 in a 2016 MS and drive just like this. Get the car to suggest the route, adjust to suit stomach and bladder, drive normally. Even with half the range (than the MS long range) the car waits for me rather than the other way around. The worst journeys are the ones that use just over half the capacity but each way is too short for you to naturally stop. With the latest ranges that will be basically gone.
Also drove from Bristol to Troyes in 2019 with two, somewhat skeptical, mates. All being both greedy and middle aged we again ended up making the car wait for us. Both mates considering electric as their next car as a result.
Great real world test. That's a tiring day.
It’s as much as can be done in a day really... but we had two of us so that’s easier!
Funnily enough, two years ago I drove from my friend's in Pigeon Forge TN to Fogelsville PA in a rental car. 605 miles in 9 hours. Only stopping once for gas and a tinkle near Richmond. Shattered!
But why?
@@Danne89 less hotels to book. Decided to do it in one go. Easy drive to JFK and home.
Literally did the same journey in my Model S (100D) a few days back and it is indeed simple and quick - did you stay at the Ness Walk Hotel? I ask as that hotel is very close to where you're filming at the end. Lovely place and they've just installed EV chargers!
Yes just down the road from Ness. We filmed from there the next morning
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In America it’s not uncommon to drive 700 miles a day on a trip. We rotate drivers and will stop only for a very short period, to get gas, food, bathroom, and rotate drivers all at once. Obviously you can’t do this if you are driving alone, but something like a family trip it helps having more than 1 driver. I think this is one of the reasons for hesitation for electric cars, that we aren’t used to stopping to charge, but I think the v3 super chargers would help to mitigate that.
Well next time you cover 600 miles in a day, you tell me if 1 hour stop isn’t a) convenient and b) happy to be done if FREE fuel
@@RSEV those are both very good points, although I do believe that you pay upfront a bit for the cost of the battery vs an ICE car, so you would have to keep the car longer for total car + fuel costs to equalize, on a case by case basis. Nevertheless, electric cars are very cool and undoubtedly the future. I’ve also been enjoying the videos :)
But "had, food bathroom", becomes essentially just "food, bathroom" since the car charges *while* you "empty" and "fill" yourself.
Not to mention, even a short break is *much* better for you.
@@RSEV unfortunately free charging is not for all teslas and those EVs are also expensive for the mass.
Please try to repeat this drive in some non-Teslas to compare not only the cars and the charging networks but also the decision-making about what charging stations to use on the way.
Just for comparison to my 90D, what range does yours show at 90%?
Good video & thanks.
Excellent work sir ! As always. .
Great stuff! I did Vancouver (West Coast of Canada) to Austin, Texas in 3 days with a similar approach. Super Easy, Barely an Inconvenience. Really.
I'll bet you were safer as well, planning stops, rather than being tempted to "push on" while tired?
I pushed it a little, but taking 20 minute breaks every 3 to 4 hours kept it fairly safe - plus, autopilot on long straight empty roads. It was fairly unplanned, with hotel stops unknown until I got tired, and then looked for one with an overnight charger. Once I'd got to Austin I eased up a little, drove over to LA and back up the coast home. It was great fun - I think 925 miles was my single day record, Rawlins WY to Abilene TX before rolling on into Austin the next day. Amazing trip - scenery was incredible. I was on the road for 9 days total, car didn't skip a beat, 5000 miles in total.
I'd be interested to see you do this trip in something other than a Tesla. Do you think the result would be the same without access to Teslas superchargers ?
Richard drove back down from Inverness in the new Audi E-Tron GT RS, check out his video
Here Anthony pluginadventure.com/john-ogroats-to-lands-end-and-back/
Two guys drove from John O Groats to Lands End - and back again - in a Nissan Leaf in 2016. A distance of 1653 miles in 48 hours...
Thank you... Awesome vlog of the journey. I think the Gridserve /Electric highway collaboration will be a game changer for electric vehicles in the UK. The rugby facility is just awesome and will open the door for longer practical journeys to none Tesla owners.
I agree. A lot of people have found charging frustrating because of Ecotricity. They’ve had a detrimental effect because the chargers were so old and unreliable in the end.
Now though those chargers are fantastic. I used rugby for charging audi etron gt and it got 264kw!
@@RSEVi think we must consider though what a huge punt ecotricity took all those years ago and hats off to them for having the vision. We must all be gracious in that respect. I really hope they develop and fulfill the potential of that initial investment. You guys are really leading the education piece on EV transport. Nice work!
Very interesting videos you make. Just a shame you're in the UK, because here on the EU mainland, speed limits are usually higher (120/130Km/H) than in the UK (+/-112Km/H) so not sure how big an influence that would have on the range and the practicality. Maybe after the whole Covid thing passes, you can really do a road trip to the Alps. I'm planning to get me a Model 3 soon, but I'm still undecided between the SR+ and the LR AWD because I have a daily commute of about 230 Km, mostly highway (130 Km/h), and I doubt whether it'll be doable with the SR+.
I have done alp trips before..
Easy enough
Thoughtful trip. Thanks
It would be more helpful if you told us what the cost of the recharges were in addition to the time and amount of charge.Good videos though.
Great Channel.... really like your reviews....
That's interesting that deeper discharge results in faster recharge.
All batteries receive high charge better when near empty, decreasing more after 60%, mainly due to heat and resistance inside the pack.
Next generation cells won't suffer this problem .
It's the main advantage of emerging higher voltage systems (800v up from 400v) since the current is halved for similar power.
As demonstrated here, once the driver overcomes the "don't stop" fixation, (or has passengers on board!) The car can both outrange the driver *and* "fill" while the driver "empties". This will be the case on even smaller vehicles within 2 years.
Excellent stuff. Some other UA-camrs would have spun that out to a 45 minute video 😁. I've just bought my first electric car, largely thanks to you. 👍
Thank you! We’re learning all the time with videos and it’s actually quite hard to keep short and snappy.
Great to hear helped you into an EV. That’s exactly what it’s all about
@@RSEV
I agree with the poster: watching scenery zoom past is OK for a few minutes but the meat of EV videos is the charging network - especially the non-Tesla ones!
Great video….what was the screen where you looked at the record of different sections of trip…does Model 3 have this 🤔👍
Just put end destination in, it will show the stops it plans. If don’t see, press top of nav screen to show views. You then hit “begin trip” and it shows for that leg.
@@RSEV Cheers for that…probably that I haven’t done any long trips yet is why I haven’t seen it 😜👍
I've done more than 1,000 Km in one day several times. Jump from one supercharger to the next. In a Model 3 Long Range. No problem (I drive for work)
A few weeks ago did Adelaide to Canberra in one hit in a Tesla SR+. 1,350kms in the lowest range Tesla. No drama. One thing not mentioned: Autopilot takes 80% of the effort away. Long drives are easy.
Hopefully the nav doesn’t select chargers in hotels and others for private use
Great Car, be great if they ever become affordable for most people.
They’re getting there..
Used model S are now down to under £30,000 so getting cheaper..
I like the concept but taking a 100k$ care isn't really viable. Next time chose a VW ID. 3, Opel Mokka-e, Corsa-e, MG 5 EV etc. . Those are the cars most people can buy and these are the people how are sceptic because a car is a big investment for most people. Not everyone can and will buy a car for 50k +. I love EV's and will probably buy the new MG 5 EV when it comes to Germany because it will be around 22-24k€ after incentives.
RSymons driving like Bjorn - UK Niiiinjaaa style but with some help. Please test a budget vehicle too, such as an older Zoe EV or the older Kia Soul, I'm on a tight budget. Also what's it like if you drive from say Manchester to Devon and Cornwall and then around that beautiful area - it seems the nifty chargers are mainly off the motorways. It'll be a breeze in a 60K Tesla but what about an average salary El Cheepo EV driver? At the risk of being a pessimist, we need a lot more chargers for the future or get used to queuing. Thank you.
Yes I’d like to do more such soon. It all depends what I have in stock and available at the time basically.
Its allso an 850.000 nok car here in Norway.
Great video & nice review. Can you tell me how much it coasts to drive one for one month for example?
Well, charging was free and the car isn’t depreciating. Doesn’t get much cheaper than that
The easiest way to figure it out is to the take your monthly mileage x the average efficiency x cost per kW.
So for example:
Charging at home on a nightly tariff, 1,000 miles x 0.3 miles per kW x £0.05 per kW = £15
Charging at a Tesla Supercharger, 1,000 miles x 0.3 miles per kW x £0.26 per kW = £78
@@raymondsmith9936 thank you, & that alone has convinced me that I will get an electric car as they are talking about subsidies for changing your car at work 👍
@@SMX815 1% benefit in kind tax for driving an EV is fantastic!
Why Tesla doesnt make a long range rwd from model s too. It would be the longest range tesla probably.
Not too long ago my wife and I took a 430 mile trip in Arizona USA In our 2021 model Y. We truly only needed one charge but I did take a second charge just to top off. We made it to our destination and used a supercharger which lasted us the rest of the journey, but right before I got home, a distance of about 60 miles or so, I topped off just because. Like a lot of people my wife was worried about the charging infrastructure and had range anxiety but after this trip she completely trusts the Tesla network and the car.
Top to bottom in my state is 350 miles and 5 hours
Can you use A better route planer on your journey back and compare Tesla route and charging stops via ABRP route and charging stops ?
I tend to over ride the Tesla version in many cases purely because it leaves quite a large safety buffer and if bladder is holding out I’ll usually carry on to the next charger anyway...
ABRP is good and certainly for non-Teslas can help people with routing
I did a challenge of 1400kms from spain to France with Tesla S raven performance. I took 16h
Liking the vids, what is the warranty on the batteries of 2nd hand Tesla's , maybe in the market for a model 3 performance?
Dean
Tesla Model 3 Long Range or Performance has an 8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, drivetrain and battery warranty with minimum 70% retention of battery capacity over the warranty period.
Earlier Teslas up until about 2019 had an 8yr/unlimited mileage warranty for the battery and drivetrain. 👌
@@RSEV As there will be no new Model S or X this year, how has that affected the 2nd hand prices?
Also, do you find much difference in the 2nd hand price of the equivalent Model with unlimited free charging compared to those that don't have this?
A comparable trip from San Francisco East Bay to Phoenix was shown on an EV route planner using a model 3 long range starting at 90% charge, to take about 10 hours and 45 minutes with 6 stops totaling an hour and 45 minutes worth of charging/breaks. An ICE should take about 45 minutes less.
The long range model 3 would cost about $55 in E. ICE should cost about $130 in gas.
Interestingly older Model S versions can add about an additional hour of charge time.
Thanks for posting this realistic trip.
Another quality episode, and a drive that apparently left you flushed!
I am looking forward to the Giga Berlin Model Y, hopefully it will be a great car and hopefully it will be available as a SR version.
How much did the trip cost you on supercharge
I’d like to see the return journey on autopilot
Interestingly, ABRP shows 3 charges for 47 minutes in total for a Tesla Model 3 LR.
Like I said it can be done faster, but this was a demo of real world, and where we only stopped for as long as WE needed
If I ever go for an Electric car it will always be a Tesla if only for the Superchargers but....if I decide to buy a used Tesla, your at the top of that list!
Great Video review, I loved it.
Sure, the Supercharger network has the advantage right now, but with an ever increasing number of large charging hubs coming on stream - with many offering 350kw chargers, Tesla's advantage won't remain forever.... As an example, the new Gridserve site at Braintree has around 35 rapid chargers, with several of them being rated at 350kw....
What is going to happen with the range if you drive with 160km/h
Brilliant video and a must watch for the nay sayers.
Thank you!
There's a particularly "enthusiastic" naysayer in the thread bouncing between various outdated FUD opinions, not really making any sense(!)
The nay sayers won't watch once it gets past 30 seconds in, because they'll quickly realise that here is someone they can't fool with their relentless cobblers and misinformation.
The most I've driven in one day in my Model 3 is 910 miles. From Lincoln Nebraska to Grantsville Utah. Elecric vehicals are here to stay inmy opinion.
`Again, very informative video. Thanks! With Tesla’s becoming more popular now, have you ever been at a charge station with no available chargers?
Not yet in over 5 years of Tesla driving!
Good video!
Nice Video. Can you do the same for the TESLA 3? (Or have you already?)
At motorway speeds in good conditions I got 280 miles (75 kW battery), not taking into account the 20 mile reserve range. In less favourable you are probably looking at 230 miles.
Thanks. Was that standard or long range.
@@davidwillwill5697 M3 Performance pre-heatpump refresh.
@@raymondsmith9936 sorry. Don't understand the reply. I'm just wondering if the 280/230 miles with a TESLA 3 was with the Standard, or Long Range model?
@@davidhamishwill367 There are three variants of the Model 3, Standard Range Plus (small battery), Long Range ( big battery) and the Performance (big battery), I have the Performance. The Long Range gets a slightly better efficiency as it is the slower than the performance, hence it would go further.
Recently, Tesla did a refresh and added a heat pump which is more efficient at heating the cabin, thus if you went for a new Perfomance, it would go further than the mileage I stated.
I would guess with that big battery long range Model S you would only need to stop 2 or 3 times at the most.
The 100kW Model S could likely do it in one stop in the right conditions, but 200 miles between comfort breaks and sustenance is more realistic.
I drove London to Bordeaux last year with a petrol vehicle (9hrs) and I had to stop at least 3 times just to get a break from driving (each stop around 30min) so I really don't see the difference from driving an EV compared to diesel.
There is a significant difference, depending on who you are and the car you can afford, this is a very expensive tesla unlike cheap diesel vehicles that have over 700 miles of range
Really good inside to long range driving, I normally drive to south of France (1000 - 1200 miles) so nice to say I could do it easy. But what if I didn’t have a Tesla?, using the cheep seats in the charging system not the posh ones. Will that make me go for the Tesla
It’s where a Tesla makes it easy.
Can be done in others for sure, but with some work...
@@RSEV unfortunately its also the very expensive tesla that has the biggest range when a normal cheap ICE can have way better range.
Yet another great video and proof that in real-world situations, an EV isn't much different to a petrol in regards stops you'd make anyway! Keep up to good work!
You forget that its the most long range/most expensive EV compared to a very cheap used ICE that can do the same trip even faster right! Im not against EV but its the reality here.
@@alanmay7929 True but over the life of the ICE, how much does the fuel cost you Vs an EV? The cost point for an EV just shifts to time of purchase rather than over the life of the vehicle together with less maintenance costs etc. EVs are in their infancy where as ICE cars are at their limit, it's like moving from a well built wooden house to not so well built brick house. Both are capable of the same thing but one is as it's limit and the other is in its infancy.
@@DaveYates81 unfortuntely EVs are still not made for everyone and cars have sooo many uses/applications and also depending on where you live it can be advantageous or not, you can still buy a even 10 years old ICE that still works well and use it for many other years to come, plus there are plugin hybrids too.
Interesting - but in the real world in 40 years of driving I think I have driven 600 miles in one day once.
Love the colour choice.. white on white.. that will be me in a M3 one day.. might do my own video Wellington to Auckland .. if they let me out of the rest home long enough.. lol
In a couple of years when 10-80% charge is 15 minutes equal to a bio/coffee break, I will be ready for EV 👍
Point on this test was to show that at no point were we waiting for the car…!
@@RSEV I like your content - very informative, but for my style of driving on longer hauls, I would never stop more than 10-15 minutes tops.
When driving to Italy from Scandinavia, we would drive through the night with a cruise speed of 90-100mph where allowed. Pause roughly every 2 hours for 10-15 minutes to refuel, stretch, bio and get cofee.
Correct me if I am wrong but pauses would have to be 30-40 minutes from what I am seeing with an EV which would add a couple of hours on top of an already long stretch or we would have to make 2 longer stops to rest instead of just one.
Surely it can be done with a little patience, but I still love my diesel for the long stuff. I would love an EV for daily - the Polestar 2 was a very nice experience when ai drove one recently.
Maybe the EQS will be the EV to win me over - it seems very impressive :)
@@RSEV but for any day driving with lunch stops, traffic etc. Your test shows that at least with the great range of a Tesla S, it is no problem.
@@RSEV would be super cool if you could do a test on Autobahn. What the range of a Tesla S is at 100mph cruise speed.