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54:20 Tess in last episode when she was asking Joel to take Ellie to Bill's, she said "I never asked you anything, not even to feel the way I felt..." So probably Tess loved him but he didn't answer those feelings. But he still cared for her.
Idc if it’s straight, gay, les, etc. that was honestly one of the most beautiful love stories I’ve seen in any form of media. I was all sorts of choked up watching it with my friends last night. It was still tragic but at the same time it was kind of refreshing. They got to go out on their terms after living around 17 years together happily instead of being taken out unexpectedly and brutally by infected or raiders. For a lot of people who haven’t played the game, this episode may not mean much from what they saw on the surface but to those of us who have played the games, this episode provided beautiful backstory into Bill’s life that we didn’t get in the game. Bill is still alive in the game but Frank isn’t. However the segments with Bill are very brief so there wasn’t much insight into his character outside of collectibles and other little things laying around the environment. One last note, the red shirt Ellie changed into is her iconic red shirt she wears in the game.
@@peterdanidson8109 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you do realize that movies based on books (and a lot of other media) are not always verbatim, right? Enjoy living on your own deserted island, since it appears caring for anyone other than yourself make you weak in your worldview?
The chemistry between the three of you was perfect this episode! It must have been a huge effort to take harsh criticism on board instead of being discouraged. There is a natural flow to your discussions and commentary that is insightful and entertaining. I really appreciate all the hard work, good work to the three of you =]
As someone who ranks both Last of Us games as my favorite ever: this was by far the best episode so far, while also being the one that deviates the most from the game. Literally nothing that happened in the episode happens that way in the game, but it still felt RIGHT!
Agree, and I bet that they would've done this in the game if they could've. But that would've required long ass cutscenes to make Bill and Frank's relationship believable and impactful. But it would make for bad gameplay. So it was easier to just have Bill as a simple side character that just helped you kill stuff and explore the town. This show doesn't need to fill space with combat so they told an impactful story of Bill and Frank and used that very emotional letter at the end to give Joel more hope and purpose in his life. Loved it.
As a massive fan of the game, I agree. This wouldn't work in the game and the game part, while partially could work in the show, it lacks the emotion and richness to be put in the show. The game relies on action and gameplay while integrating story into it, because it's a game, while the show needs to balance both story depth and actions, so it is really great that the Showrunner's decided to change Bill & Frank's part. Kudos to them and loving this show even more!
Hallelujah this is what i am trying to some people who are so angry coz it deviates so much.. they tend to forgot that this is an adoptstion on a TV series and this is not the game version.. also the director masterfully gave bill the justice for his character and choose to give that character a. Bitter sweet but masterfully done ending
Eh. I disagree. This stuff mostly all happened in the game's canon, just you don't see any of it. The only canon changes are SPOILER the circumstances of Frank's suicide and Bill's decision to join him
Ellie picks up Frank’s gun. It’s the symbolism between Bill and Frank and Joel and Ellie that people like Bill and Joel are always there to protect more vulnerable people like Frank and Ellie
Regarding fungus and heat.... where I live in Canada there are mushroom hunters(pickers) that seek out a rare mushroom that only grows after a forest fire has burnt the ground. They are willing to walk up and down mountain sides all day, because the mushrooms are worth a small fortune. Buyers will setup in temporary wilderness camps and prepare them onsite before shipping them across to world.
Loved your reactions. You make a great trio and all bring something unique to the mix. I also enjoy the little recap/analysis of the previous ep in the beginning, I thought it was a nice way to lead into the reaction. Regarding the opening credits, did you notice all the other cool imagery? The skyscrapers rising in the cityscape, the fungus spreading across the US map and profile of a dead body (both of which you clocked), the rolls of barbed wire fence and finally the two silhouetted figures of Joel and Ellie walking together...? So much thought and craft has gone into this show. I find myself discovering new little details every time I re-watch the episodes. I think we needed this beautiful love story, to prepare us for the harsher/scarier/darker side of what's likely to come. It was like a lovely rest stop, a pause to fill the tank before heading back on the dusty road.
That line of "I was never afraid before you showed up" really hits. The feeling of being not afraid for yourself in the middle of a disaster, but being afraid for the ones you care about, that's a deep connection.
My gf and I were destroyed this episode. We had both played the game and were completely caught off guard with how this episode went. It was insanely beautiful! Nick Offerman is a beast!
In France there was a fungal outbreak due to bread in the 1950s in which a few people went nuts and got violent (one kid tried to strangle his grandmother and another guy jumped out of a building thinking he was an airplane). So cooking bread doesn't necessarily kill it all.
Forgot to say it was called the "Cursed Bread" incident by the locals. And also apparently one guy tried to drown himself because he thought his stomach was full of snakes. These types of infections really mess you up.
The fungus you are referring to (ergot) DOES die when cooked, even it's spores do not survive high heats (some fungus have spores that are more heat resilient); what caused the problem you are talking about was the *toxin* it produces, which isn't alive to be killed and cooking it doesn't degrade it. However, even if these mutated cordy spores do also die When one bakes: Sometimes flour DOES get aerosolized and people breath it in. Some people touch their eyes, nose or mouth after handling things without washing their hands. People undercook things. They don't clean utensils, cutting boards, etc properly and then make a sandwich or cut fruit...
It took me seeing some reactions to realize the purpose of the radio message being "Danger". that was Bill essentially leaving a message for Joel and Tess to come "help", but when they got there they'd find all the weapons and things they ever needed to protect themselves. It's Bill leaving behind for his "friends" what he could. And when Joel comes in, the door slams shut. Bill can finally go.
Tess's last words "save who you can save" ties up with the story of Bill and Frank and eventually Bill too told Joel to save who he can save, just in different words. I love your reactions guys!
I didn't think there would ever be an episode as beautiful and heartbreaking as "San Junipero" (Black Mirror ep. 3x4). Now I know better and yes I cried a lot.
This episode made me completely forget about the apocalypse, it was a beautiful story about two people who found peace, love, and happiness in world gone to ruins.
You guys have the best TLOU reactions on youtube. Very honest and I can tell you guys don't fake it (a lot do). Much love, keep up the awesome content!
The concept of mycelium mapping out the US was inspired by the Japanese scientists who used intelligent slime mold to help figure out the shortest and most efficient routes of the Tokyo rail system. The scientists placed oats at all the hot spots around a mimic Tokyo map and sure enough the slime mold mapped out shorter routes for the engineers to follow.
A Canadian mycologist Dr. Suzanne Simard also coined the term Wood Wide Web when she discovered that mycelium below forest ground connects all of the plants and allow them to communicate like an information highway. We see this is why all of the infected are kind of connected.
That was heartbreaking, but also amazing. I dont know what else to say honestly. Elise is an excellent addition to your reaction team, really interesting perspective and insight
What hits me, is the window at the end open. And the letter from Bill to Joel about Tess. The story telling in an episode that had no meaning to the story of the show was so strong it didn't matter if it was a standalone. What a brilliant acted episode from all parts.
Annie Wersching not just voiced Tess in the game she did the full performance capture for the game. Which is wearing a scuba suit with censors size of ping pong balls size having cameras too pick up all the movements made. They also have censors on their faces with a helmet camera pick up everything Annie did with her face along with Troy Baker Joel, Ashley Johnson Ellie and everyone else that was in the game. Performance capturing is big part of making video games theses days
Cried the first watch, teared up watching this when Bill’s crying face popped up. Every episode so far, has gotten me. The change from the game’s material was well done, no shame to the game. Cried while playing the game too!
You cried pretty hard bro. But so did I lol. I never watch any reaction videos, but somehow your videos popped up after the first episode came out. So glad I did because this is a pretty awesome channel.
I was sobbing when I first watched it, and sobbed even harder seeing your reactions. The need for humans to have real connections is not just fulfilling…it’s necessary. All you need is love lmao (😭😭😭😭😭)
"I hope nothing bad happens to them" You jinxed it! ;) Jokes aside, thinking about it some more, in fact I think nothing bad happened to them indeed. They got to live the best life you can have in a situation like this, grew old together and died together peacefully without pain. And did I cry? Basically through half the episode. I was so exhausted, I had a headache for 3 hours afterwards.
Tess said that they would know what to do, she knew that Bill and Frank have a radio and that Frank especially would try to help them by contacting the Fireflies or someone who could hook them up with them. Notice that for their last meal together Bill made what he made the first time they met and even turned the plate like he did back then. The open window with the curtain moving in the breeze was a tie into the widow in Sarahs room in the show and at the beginning of the game. When the radio went off back at Tess and Joels place with the 80's song meaning trouble, the trouble it was signaling was that the next time Tess and Joel came there they would find them dead. It was sent by Bill when he decided to join Frank in death.
Not quite. When Ellie and Joel went down into Bill's bunker, he saw the radio playing the 80s music and said that Bill had it set up to play if something hadn't been reset by him after a period of two weeks. So it would be like an auto alarm if something happened to them. It was two weeks and a few days between them killing themselves and Joel and Ellie getting there.
@@lynnjohanssen6552 True, but Bill before last dinner definitely picked manually the song that will be played first (assuming Ellie lied/baited Joel about the Wham! song). Never Let Me Down by Depeche Mode _can_ be interpreted as suicidal song. So it's not just random automated thing.
to be specific, the windows in the show are a reference to the start menu in the game, which has a window with curtains blowing in the breeze. In the official podcast for the show, Craig Mazin & Neil Druckmann mention how they wanted to start each episode of the show with a window scene to mimic the game, but that it became too cumbersome, and that's why there's so many shots starting or ending with a window in the show.
I was so happy seeing you posted this tonight. Absolutely fantastic reaction it did not disappoint. DAMN as a straight guy who's as manly as it comes it takes a lot and it's been a handful of years since a movie or show turned on the old faucet eyes like tonight's episode did! The series has been perfection so far. BTW the X on the door is to let other government agencies or military know who come through that the house was searched / cleared and if a number is on the right side that's how many bodies are inside. We did this exact same code after hurricane Katrina and in Iraqi cities
Some bloggers correctly noted that the infection of the general mass of the population was due to flour. In 2003 episode 1, Joel, Sarah and Tommy didn't eat pancakes for breakfast, they refused the neighbors' cookies, and most importantly, Joel forgot to buy a cake for his birthday. It saved their lives except for Sarah.
And there was Jakarta mention on the radio - It IS where the largest flour mill in the world exists and exports worldwide. the US isn't a big importer BUT, all it takes is a little bit and the machines get contaminated and ALL the flour you bag for sale gets contaminated.
When they all first meet and it's just Joel and Bill at the table outside, Joel says that he gets it, if my...mine, brought someone new into our situation, I wouldn't be happy either. That meeting was 7 years in, and Joel and Tess were already together, so that's at least 13 years for the two of them as well.
Love the discussions. Great stuff. This part was very different from the game but I didn’t mind at all cause it was so well done. I think I teared up more during your reaction than I did watching the episode by myself. You guys got me. 😂
Lol fun fact it might be in the US and the show is set in Boston but they filmed most of it here in Alberta Canada where I'm from and one of my buddies got to be onset and see some of the filming
I love that we got this backstory of Bill and Frank and the crazy funny thing is Frank and Tess were the same and Bill and Joel were the same I cried pretty much from the raiders on it was so sweet and sad.
Really enjoyed the reaction. Some additional context from the game if curious. A bit long, but only because the deviations are pretty big. In the game, Joel and Ellie run into Bill by setting off one of Frank’s traps littered around a town just outside Boston. It’s much more urban and Bill has jerryrigged it to keep infected and trespassers away from his bunker. There are a few cutscenes and gameplay sections where you’re escaping infected with Bill as you search for a working truck that he knows. In the cutscenes, Bill butts heads a lot with Ellie and warns Joel, “Seriously, you gotta take that kid back where you found her… Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time I had somebody that I cared about - a… partner - somebody I had to look after. And in this world that sorta shit is good for only one thing: getting you killed.” The back and forth between Ellie and Bill is very funny too. At one point, Bill is mocking Joel’s request to find a car. This is the exchange: BILL: “‘Yeah, sure Joel, go ahead. Take my car.’ Take all my food while you’re at it!” ELLIE: “By the looks of it, you could lose some of that food.” There is a lot of that feuding between the two and it's legitimately very funny, and gives you a better sense of Ellie's personality. Long story short, you have two objectives in this part of the game: 1) find the truck and 2) get a battery for the truck from another car. You reach the battery first, but it’s gone. When you find it later, it’s already been placed in the truck by Frank, who you find has hung himself in the house where the truck was stored. It turned out that while preparing to leave, he got bit. So rather than turn, he offs himself and leaves a note for Bill saying he hates him because he "could never understand" what Frank needed from their time together. Their romantic relationship is hinted at, but never shown. In the end, Bill helps Joel and Ellie leave and remains alive in his town.
I've seen people calling it tragic or sad, but I think it was a happy story. They got to pass in old age, after a long life where they were loved, with agency and dignity. This is something neither queer nor disabled/terminal characters are usually granted in media. The apocalypse happened in 2003. That is the societal framework they are coming from. One where gay marriage wasn't legal. One where initial meetings were often conducted through coding because being too open, too out, was dangerous. Especially in a small town. Bill probably had more genuine social interaction after the outbreak than beforehand. Because of small-town stigma and pre-2003 socially acceptable homophobia. From this perspective, the apocalypse gave them a chance at life they may not have gotten otherwise. Bill likely never would have known love. Frank brought beauty to Bill's life. As I have seen others say, Bill and Frank won the apocalypse. And Bill and Joel became friends. Even if they didn't want to call it that. Mutual respect. Mutual trust. Mutual care for the other. And Joel had the code. Watching Bill's arc was a great way to externalise Joel's internal arc, they are so similar. The show's story is exploring how love and relationships can be toxic. And this was a beautiful juxtaposition to that. I know it is different from the game, but I don't think it took anything away from the game. You still got to meet Bill - just Bill ending in a better place than the game Bill. Joel and Ellie still got resources. And it was changed in a way to enhance the story. And game players get to experience something new. In the context of queer representation in media, including the "kill your gays" trope, I really appreciated this change. And the lack of bodies was respectful of the story being told - it wasn't a story about their death. It was a story about their life and love. Sometimes in apocalypse stories, you can end up in a place wondering if the world is worth saving. The love story topped off with a sprinkling of Ellie's delight at the world showed what they are fighting for.
I feel like Joel is treating the entire property like a graveyard, he won't take everything nor stay there because of the respect he has for Bill and Frank
@Life Almost Without Reactions, 18:51 "I wonder how long the fungus can survive inside of a dead body?" Until the body has nothing more to give. Killing the host doesn't kill the cordyceps; it traps them in an immobile vessel. In the first episode, the epidemiologist explained that cordyceps stave off decomposition by pumping the body full of penicillin. As long as the host has fluids, dead or alive, cordyceps will continue to live, but once the body runs out of fuel, the cordyceps will start to branch out looking for a new vessel, sort of like the infected we saw in the QZ when Tess and Joel were looking for Robert. 19:13 this could be the regular progression of the cordyceps, the transition from Runner to Stalker, as stalkers look like this--fungal growth slowly replacing the host. The next phase up from this is Clicker, which happens when the skull is cracked horizontally so that the cordyceps can fruit (blossom). 20:10 "I wonder how that guy died." ...you just saw how he died...Ellie ran her knife through his skull. Remember these aren't zombies. There's a reason why they call non-regular people infected...because they're infected. The infected are prisoners in their bodies, what's left of them is their brain, which has been cut off from the rest of the body, since the cordyceps built a wall around it in order to hijack their host's body. The host is aware of everything happening around them, but they are helpless to do anything about it. Being an infected is a fate worse than death. You're forced to watch/hear the horrors done by your hands until the someone ends you or until the cordyceps slowly feasting on you is done with you. The never ending trauma of screams and death would probably drive a person insane. Ellie did this guy a favor. Ellie does have an unhealthy interest in these things, but there's likely a story here that we'll get soon when we get her story with Riley. Ellie was attacked by a Runner, she never saw a Clicker or a Stalker until she left the QZ, so that might be her interest right there. She's been told stories by her peers, and you know they exaggerated some details, though still rooted in fact. We should forget that Ellie has cordyceps in her too, she's not infected, but she has cordyceps. That unhealthy interest could be cordyceps related, but we'll have to watch along to see for sure. 22:10 The first episode made a point to show us all the food the MILLERS DIDN'T EAT: pancakes, biscuits, cake and cookies. The mycologist in Indonesia was told that the woman on the autopsy table was working at a flour mill, and Indonesia has the largest flour mill in the world. Joel doesn't know this, but it was the flour! The people he was around narrowed it down to a basic food ingredient, they just aren't sure which ones. One of you, Lisa?, asked about heat killing the cordyceps, I guess fire works, BUT if they survived baking you needed to have a very, very hot fire. You also need to remember that climate change is what made the cordyceps evolve in the first place. What's possible now in their world wasn't possible in 1968, but rising temperatures caused the cordyceps to evolve into something stronger that could live in this new world with harsh weather and rising temperatures. 22:43 Well, we got a glimpse of this when Sarah died, remember? Remember those cars on the highway trying to leave Austin and the military on the other side? I bet they all got wasted. All it would take is for one of them to be infected before the order to put the all down was given. The soldier that saved Joel and Sarah was ordered to kill them all because his CO heard that "one of them was injured." Things for falling apart very quickly and the military wasn't taking any chances. 52:26 "What was the purpose of taking her to Bill and Frank?" Frank has a open heart. Joel slammed his heart shut like Bill a long time ago. With Tess out of the picture, she knew Joel would get colder and that it would be better to pass Ellie off to someone with an open heart, someone who'd protect her and keep her safe, which Bill was quite capable of doing. 54:42 The game was quite different--Bill is the way he is, but we only hear about Frank. This version of their story is far superior than the games. Period! 58:30 that's the song that's playing in the truck, right now. Bill and Franks story started with this song and now it ends with it. What a story. I didn't sob, but I teared up--not shaming anyone who did, mind you. Another fun reaction. Keep'em comin!
Elise needs her own channel, such great thoughts behind her theories and her voice is so calming yet confident. Kind of like a voice from an interesting documentary. great reaction.
This episode is much different than the game. It was done beautifully. This to me was a win because imagine growing old in a time like this with someone you love. Bill & Frank got to choose how, where, when, and with whom they died. And got to plan the whole day. In game Bill was just an ass, hardened and then a little broken after Frank left him and got bit. Finding Franks bitten body.
The beauty of this episode is that it subverts our expectations. We've been conditioned through modern storytelling to fear everything, especially the benign, the innocuous. Dolls, children, children with dolls, dolls that look like children, all manner of seemingly harmless and familiar things, all trying to kill you. We expect that any kindness will be answered with violence, that any trust met with betrayal. We as an audience have been primed to fear the most faithful of friends, the most reliable family members - especially in this particular genre of horror - and when we encounter a story about caring and commitment amongst the ruins of a dying world, we don't know how to process it and it hits hard. "I was not expecting this" seems to be the most common refrain, with good reason. This is ostensibly a series about a 'zombie apocalypse' where anyone and everyone can go from being a kindred soul to a mortal threat in an instant and no one is to be trusted, especially other humans. Yet this particular tale is about trust, and love, both matrimonial and romantic. It's about allowing oneself to be vulnerable and in that vulnerability, finding those moments of existence that are both ephemeral and priceless. We expect a calamity, a personal buskin beyond the destruction of our civilization. We anticipate a type of misfortune that doesn't occur. During the worst catastrophe in the history of human kind, we bear witness the best thing to ever happen to these two humans, and it's profound; jarring. We await a devastation that never comes to pass, that expectation of tragedy is subverted by a story of love. We expect blood and destruction; what we get is a masterpiece about small, beautiful lives lived less ordinary. This is one of the best stories ever told on film, in my opinion, and it's based on a video game; we've come a long way from Pong.
While I am bummed we didn't get to see an interaction between Ellie and Bill, and that they omitted one of the better sections of the game, I realize there would be no easy way to do the section justice in the span of a single episode. Nevertheless, I'm completely satisfied with this beautiful character study of Bill, and I'm excited to see where they take the series next.
Part of the fun with Bill in the game is his interactions with Ellie. He's also gay in the game, but a lot more stern, gruff, and closed off. (Shout out to W. Earl Brown who played him in the game) In the game, his inability to trust anyone nor reach out to other people drove Frank away - who ended up offing himself after being bit (Bill, Joel and Ellie find him along their journey). Bill attempts to act like "F*** him" when they find him, but you can see the devastation in his face. In the game, Bill serves as a warning to Joel of what you become when you don't let anyone in. On the show, he serves as an example of how happy you can be if you do. But I still wish we got to see badass Bill fighting some infected with Joel and Ellie.
Joel loved Tess deeply as well, but he didn’t want to feel pain again, so he always left a wall between them to protect himself. Bill and Frank’s story is about embracing love as it makes life worth living even though it can also bring pain. That’s something that Joel struggles to deal with, so he always closes himself off. Very beautiful episode. Another great example of deviating from the game in a way that adds to the material instead of subtracting.
BAHAHAHAHA!!!!! When the waterworks really flowed at 48:45, it reminded me of a time I met two friends for happy hour. Tacos and margaritas! I had recently lost my guy. One of my friend's just lost her husband. The other lost a friend which turned her other friend into a widow. At one point, the three of us were bawling. I then noticed the bar was empty. I think we drove everyone out. 😂🤣😂🤣 I've been binge watching "Long, Long Time" reactions for days now. This is one of my favorites.
This was peak television. Simply the best, most perfect television I've seen since maybe the M.A.S.H. finale decades ago. The exploration of the building early on was filler, and there's no way that Bill would have been stupid enough to stand out in the street unless a breach was imminent, but those were minor flaws. The direction and writing was as excellent as anything I've ever seen.
FINALLY reactors who realized that this is bill and frank so they stop being suspicious of frank early on. some of the others didn't realize for so long
Great reaction as always guys! I cried with this episode too, but to be honest It’s not hard for me to tear up with movies/tv shows. I found my baseball cards BTW, the guy who stoled them was convinced to give them back to me:)
Okay, the rock stacking. That is an old Celtic & Norse tradition. In this specific instance, it is very similar to the Scott's purpose for the rocks. Rock stack burial memorials were common, and people coming to visit would add a new rock to the stack.
Real tears. I’m glad they updated it from an lgbt couple can’t have happiness. When Bill said he was never afraid until he met Frank I broke. Also I notice people keep mentioning it but Joel isn’t giving a gun to the girl who reminds him of his daughter who was shot no matter how practical it is
You don't have to be a gun person to own a firearm. It can save your life or a loved one as you said. As long as you respect the tool and recognize the responsibilities.
That first sumptuous lunch that Bill made for Frank... Yeah, that is not a meal you make for someone you're trying to get rid of. That is a meal you make for someone you're trying to impress. That is a meal you make when you hope the guy will stick around. About Bill's startled reaction when he enters with the plates: Partly he is startled to find Frank standing, not sitting, but I think mainly it's the first time he has seen Frank all cleaned up. He doesn't know what to do with the fact that such a handsome man is in his house, close enough to touch... Anyway, here it is a year after you filmed this reaction (which I enjoyed). I'm way behind in my TV viewing.
As a massive fan of the game, I can say this episode deviated a LOT from how this stuff worked in the game. That being said this absolutely broke me and I'm glad they did it like this. The way it was in the game would not have necessarily worked in the medium of a tv series and the whole backstory with Bill and Frank would not have made sense in the game.
Everything except for the gym scene would be hard for TV. Even then it can't be restricted to the gym, they'd have to create a longer sequence for it. But I hope they bring it later on in the show, maybe not for winter but for spring.
@@peterdanidson8109 Man, fuck off. If you wanted an exact copy of the game, go play the game or watch one of those YT videos of the game as a movie. You lot cry about love stories in other games and now you're doing it in a fucking story game's TV adaptation that set out with a goal to not just bring an adaptation to a non-gamer audience, but also give some new stuff for game players and new people alike. Hell, most of the last of us is not about the infected, but rather the way the humans in this world deal with the situation caused by the infected. It was the point of winter, of the end of part 1, of the DLC and certainly all of part 2. Furthermore, you watch the episode, then come and watch other people's reactions and then comment hating it. Here's an idea if you hate it so much why not just, not watch it or not watch additional reaction videos to it. Just an idea.
@@peterdanidson8109 As I said, the last of us deals with how people react to a world ruined by infected. This episode showed how these other people reacted to it. You can play the game again if you want what the game offered.
@@peterdanidson8109 Oh wow, a homophobe complaining about the TV adaptation of a game series that has like 7 LGBT characters. You do know Bill and Frank are gay in the game right? And Ellie has like 3 girlfriends/female love interests over 2 games, one of which you spend 50% of the game with. And yes, you hated it because it has LGBT themes or is "woke" as you put it, that's exactly a homophobe. I didn't call you that until you brought that up.
@@peterdanidson8109 Freedom of speech is not freedom from the consequences of that speech. You're free to say it and not get arrested by the government. You're not free from being called out as a bigot or a homophobe. The point where it switched from a discussion about whether its a necessity to have an episode dedicated to a romance on TV separate from the protagonists to a discussion about your homophobia and bigotry is when you called it a "travesty" and said it was "shoving LGBT" and other similar statements. And your "I'm bi" statement is exactly the same thing as "I can't be racist, I have a black friend". Now, if you'll excuse (or not, I don't care), I'm done talking to a wall on the internet. Have fun, bricks for brains.
In the game Frank isn’t alive because he committed suicide, because he became infected. Unlike the show it’s never clearly stated if Bill’s and Frank’s relationship was romantic, but in the game Bill was telling Joel that “love makes you weak” or “holds you down” I always thought he and Frank had either and romantic relationship or a strong friendship and he closed himself off to feeling anything, because the one person he truly cared about he couldn’t save (much like Joel and Tess). I loved this episode and glad it gave us a breather lol 😂
They make it very clear they were in a romantic relationship though. I mean Ellie finds Bill’s stash of gay porn and steals a magazine, I think that pretty much confirmed it.
@@chrisi1466 Wait though I thought it was a lesbian magazine and that’s why Ellie took it? It was never explicitly said if Bill was gay and it pretty much left Frank and Bill’s relationship open to interpretation by the player.
@@LifeAlmostWithoutus As a lover of the games I’ve always loved that TLOU Fandom wasn’t some group of toxic players (at least not towards each other) lol 😂 it’s always been a really great way to have conversations with people about real life issues as well. Loved the reaction ❤️
@@codygates7418 It's not made explicit (imagine how the backlash would have been), but pretty clear. When Ellie looks at the porn mag, she says something like "how can he even walk with that thing hanging there?"
Great episode that proves that Hugo is a real human being. Unlike what some have commented before, he is not an ass, he just occasionally plays one on YT😂😂. Great production value on the new camera too
Yes, a clicker DOES have a "helmet" In fact: Fungi cell walls are composed of CHITIN - The same material that makes up Crab and Lobster shells. Chitin is VERY durable. SO durable that engineers at the University of Houston are using chitin and 3D printing techniques to produce high-impact multilayered coatings that can protect soldiers against bullets, lasers, toxic gas and other dangers.
Got to say a day later, watching you guys tear up before the "Up" sequence really starts, I just knew there'd be waterworks. "All because he fell in your whole." 😏 But then, "And they both died." 😭
I 100% agree with elaine(?). The sooner you teach her to use a firearm, the safer everyone will be. Not because she knows how to use it, only because she knows how NOT to use it.
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Did you cry this episode?!
RIP Annie Wersching, the voice of Tess in the game. She did a fantastic job bringing the story to life.
NOOOOO.... That was yesterday, and I'm finding out here. Man... this game/tv series is just heartbreak all around. I'm just sad now
They literally mentioned it in the video.
Absolutely RIP Annie Wersching 😭
@@sneekz07 I went directly to the reaction, must've skipped over it
Oh yeah, NO shame in crying at this one! Really beautiful and heartbreaking.
Just blown away this episode
Saw you again, dlweiss! :)
As a dude, I may or may not have sobbed.
Ive been with my girl 3 years, and watching this together was the first time she saw me cry, so i feel you brother
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54:20 Tess in last episode when she was asking Joel to take Ellie to Bill's, she said "I never asked you anything, not even to feel the way I felt..."
So probably Tess loved him but he didn't answer those feelings. But he still cared for her.
Great call Tryndamere!! I didn’t even notice that
Idc if it’s straight, gay, les, etc. that was honestly one of the most beautiful love stories I’ve seen in any form of media. I was all sorts of choked up watching it with my friends last night. It was still tragic but at the same time it was kind of refreshing. They got to go out on their terms after living around 17 years together happily instead of being taken out unexpectedly and brutally by infected or raiders.
For a lot of people who haven’t played the game, this episode may not mean much from what they saw on the surface but to those of us who have played the games, this episode provided beautiful backstory into Bill’s life that we didn’t get in the game. Bill is still alive in the game but Frank isn’t. However the segments with Bill are very brief so there wasn’t much insight into his character outside of collectibles and other little things laying around the environment.
One last note, the red shirt Ellie changed into is her iconic red shirt she wears in the game.
I can’t wait to rewatch this episode. I started picking up on some things while editing it. Thanks for the comment bud
This comment really sums it up nicely.
@@peterdanidson8109 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you do realize that movies based on books (and a lot of other media) are not always verbatim, right? Enjoy living on your own deserted island, since it appears caring for anyone other than yourself make you weak in your worldview?
The chemistry between the three of you was perfect this episode! It must have been a huge effort to take harsh criticism on board instead of being discouraged. There is a natural flow to your discussions and commentary that is insightful and entertaining. I really appreciate all the hard work, good work to the three of you =]
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Great reaction. G0d help any m0ther****** that gets in your way
As someone who ranks both Last of Us games as my favorite ever: this was by far the best episode so far, while also being the one that deviates the most from the game. Literally nothing that happened in the episode happens that way in the game, but it still felt RIGHT!
Agree, and I bet that they would've done this in the game if they could've. But that would've required long ass cutscenes to make Bill and Frank's relationship believable and impactful. But it would make for bad gameplay. So it was easier to just have Bill as a simple side character that just helped you kill stuff and explore the town. This show doesn't need to fill space with combat so they told an impactful story of Bill and Frank and used that very emotional letter at the end to give Joel more hope and purpose in his life. Loved it.
As a massive fan of the game, I agree. This wouldn't work in the game and the game part, while partially could work in the show, it lacks the emotion and richness to be put in the show. The game relies on action and gameplay while integrating story into it, because it's a game, while the show needs to balance both story depth and actions, so it is really great that the Showrunner's decided to change Bill & Frank's part. Kudos to them and loving this show even more!
100% agree! i was an absolute mess this entire episode - it's so so incredibly different to the game, and i prefer this version.
Hallelujah this is what i am trying to some people who are so angry coz it deviates so much.. they tend to forgot that this is an adoptstion on a TV series and this is not the game version.. also the director masterfully gave bill the justice for his character and choose to give that character a. Bitter sweet but masterfully done ending
Eh. I disagree. This stuff mostly all happened in the game's canon, just you don't see any of it. The only canon changes are
SPOILER
the circumstances of Frank's suicide and Bill's decision to join him
the argument they had made that relationship so real
We all have arguments like that 😭
@@LifeAlmostWithoutus it doesn't my the love any less, and there is the best part,,,, making up
@DuckTape and I feel like the outcome of that argument was the major point of divergence between the Bill of the game and the Bill of the show.
Ellie picks up Frank’s gun. It’s the symbolism between Bill and Frank and Joel and Ellie that people like Bill and Joel are always there to protect more vulnerable people like Frank and Ellie
Oh wow
Regarding fungus and heat.... where I live in Canada there are mushroom hunters(pickers) that seek out a rare mushroom that only grows after a forest fire has burnt the ground. They are willing to walk up and down mountain sides all day, because the mushrooms are worth a small fortune. Buyers will setup in temporary wilderness camps and prepare them onsite before shipping them across to world.
Oh that’s pretty cool
Loved your reactions. You make a great trio and all bring something unique to the mix. I also enjoy the little recap/analysis of the previous ep in the beginning, I thought it was a nice way to lead into the reaction. Regarding the opening credits, did you notice all the other cool imagery? The skyscrapers rising in the cityscape, the fungus spreading across the US map and profile of a dead body (both of which you clocked), the rolls of barbed wire fence and finally the two silhouetted figures of Joel and Ellie walking together...? So much thought and craft has gone into this show. I find myself discovering new little details every time I re-watch the episodes. I think we needed this beautiful love story, to prepare us for the harsher/scarier/darker side of what's likely to come. It was like a lovely rest stop, a pause to fill the tank before heading back on the dusty road.
That line of "I was never afraid before you showed up" really hits. The feeling of being not afraid for yourself in the middle of a disaster, but being afraid for the ones you care about, that's a deep connection.
I’m trying to distance myself from this episode so I can have a happy Monday. But yes that line is…hitting hard! Beautiful episode!
That line is such a great contrast to Franks’s “You’re a coward” in his written note to Bill in the game.
Dang. They turned the game mission
“Joel needs a car”
to
“You ready to cry?”
My gf and I were destroyed this episode. We had both played the game and were completely caught off guard with how this episode went. It was insanely beautiful! Nick Offerman is a beast!
This episode was one of the best I’ve ever seen
In France there was a fungal outbreak due to bread in the 1950s in which a few people went nuts and got violent (one kid tried to strangle his grandmother and another guy jumped out of a building thinking he was an airplane). So cooking bread doesn't necessarily kill it all.
Forgot to say it was called the "Cursed Bread" incident by the locals. And also apparently one guy tried to drown himself because he thought his stomach was full of snakes. These types of infections really mess you up.
The fungus you are referring to (ergot) DOES die when cooked, even it's spores do not survive high heats (some fungus have spores that are more heat resilient); what caused the problem you are talking about was the *toxin* it produces, which isn't alive to be killed and cooking it doesn't degrade it.
However, even if these mutated cordy spores do also die
When one bakes:
Sometimes flour DOES get aerosolized and people breath it in.
Some people touch their eyes, nose or mouth after handling things without washing their hands.
People undercook things.
They don't clean utensils, cutting boards, etc properly and then make a sandwich or cut fruit...
It took me seeing some reactions to realize the purpose of the radio message being "Danger". that was Bill essentially leaving a message for Joel and Tess to come "help", but when they got there they'd find all the weapons and things they ever needed to protect themselves.
It's Bill leaving behind for his "friends" what he could.
And when Joel comes in, the door slams shut. Bill can finally go.
Tess's last words "save who you can save" ties up with the story of Bill and Frank and eventually Bill too told Joel to save who he can save, just in different words.
I love your reactions guys!
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I didn't think there would ever be an episode as beautiful and heartbreaking as "San Junipero" (Black Mirror ep. 3x4). Now I know better and yes I cried a lot.
The cairn Joel makes (rock pile) is essentially a headstone for Tess. Traditionally, cairns are often used to mark burial sites.
This episode had me crying like it's the extended lgbt cut of the first 10 minutes of Pixar's UP.
omfg you just perfctly put it like this, so true
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This episode made me completely forget about the apocalypse, it was a beautiful story about two people who found peace, love, and happiness in world gone to ruins.
I know right?! An amazing episode
The stacking stones is actually a “cairn”. It’s a memorial for Tess.
You guys have the best TLOU reactions on youtube. Very honest and I can tell you guys don't fake it (a lot do). Much love, keep up the awesome content!
Top tier comment right here 🥹🥰
The concept of mycelium mapping out the US was inspired by the Japanese scientists who used intelligent slime mold to help figure out the shortest and most efficient routes of the Tokyo rail system. The scientists placed oats at all the hot spots around a mimic Tokyo map and sure enough the slime mold mapped out shorter routes for the engineers to follow.
Oh wow!! Thank you for this I’ll show Elise!
A Canadian mycologist Dr. Suzanne Simard also coined the term Wood Wide Web when she discovered that mycelium below forest ground connects all of the plants and allow them to communicate like an information highway. We see this is why all of the infected are kind of connected.
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Yeah James Cameron used the same concept in Avatar.
That was heartbreaking, but also amazing. I dont know what else to say honestly. Elise is an excellent addition to your reaction team, really interesting perspective and insight
What hits me, is the window at the end open. And the letter from Bill to Joel about Tess. The story telling in an episode that had no meaning to the story of the show was so strong it didn't matter if it was a standalone. What a brilliant acted episode from all parts.
Annie Wersching not just voiced Tess in the game she did the full performance capture for the game. Which is wearing a scuba suit with censors size of ping pong balls size having cameras too pick up all the movements made. They also have censors on their faces with a helmet camera pick up everything Annie did with her face along with Troy Baker Joel, Ashley Johnson Ellie and everyone else that was in the game. Performance capturing is big part of making video games theses days
Cried the first watch, teared up watching this when Bill’s crying face popped up. Every episode so far, has gotten me. The change from the game’s material was well done, no shame to the game. Cried while playing the game too!
Yeah it’s been an emotional 12 hours haha
You cried pretty hard bro. But so did I lol. I never watch any reaction videos, but somehow your videos popped up after the first episode came out. So glad I did because this is a pretty awesome channel.
The feels came in hard 😅
Loved the heartfelt reaction. I was blubbering like an infant sitting up in my bed watching the episode. Powerful stuff
Haha blubbering is such a good word.
I was sobbing when I first watched it, and sobbed even harder seeing your reactions. The need for humans to have real connections is not just fulfilling…it’s necessary. All you need is love lmao (😭😭😭😭😭)
Buddy when I was editing it thirty minutes later,I was crying again haha.
"I hope nothing bad happens to them"
You jinxed it! ;)
Jokes aside, thinking about it some more, in fact I think nothing bad happened to them indeed. They got to live the best life you can have in a situation like this, grew old together and died together peacefully without pain.
And did I cry? Basically through half the episode. I was so exhausted, I had a headache for 3 hours afterwards.
Haha after this episode I desperately needed rest
Good reactions guys. Love your theory's at the start I usually fast forward other reaction theories 😅
Godammit this series has just been one emotional sledgehammer to the face after another.
So sad. Just soooo beautifully sad
Y'all are so good! I really enjoyed the pre-show observations and how you notice all the little details that I missed 🙌🏾
Glad you enjoyed it 😀
Tess said that they would know what to do, she knew that Bill and Frank have a radio and that Frank especially would try to help them by contacting the Fireflies or someone who could hook them up with them. Notice that for their last meal together Bill made what he made the first time they met and even turned the plate like he did back then. The open window with the curtain moving in the breeze was a tie into the widow in Sarahs room in the show and at the beginning of the game. When the radio went off back at Tess and Joels place with the 80's song meaning trouble, the trouble it was signaling was that the next time Tess and Joel came there they would find them dead. It was sent by Bill when he decided to join Frank in death.
Not quite. When Ellie and Joel went down into Bill's bunker, he saw the radio playing the 80s music and said that Bill had it set up to play if something hadn't been reset by him after a period of two weeks. So it would be like an auto alarm if something happened to them. It was two weeks and a few days between them killing themselves and Joel and Ellie getting there.
@@lynnjohanssen6552 True, but Bill before last dinner definitely picked manually the song that will be played first (assuming Ellie lied/baited Joel about the Wham! song). Never Let Me Down by Depeche Mode _can_ be interpreted as suicidal song. So it's not just random automated thing.
to be specific, the windows in the show are a reference to the start menu in the game, which has a window with curtains blowing in the breeze. In the official podcast for the show, Craig Mazin & Neil Druckmann mention how they wanted to start each episode of the show with a window scene to mimic the game, but that it became too cumbersome, and that's why there's so many shots starting or ending with a window in the show.
I was so happy seeing you posted this tonight. Absolutely fantastic reaction it did not disappoint. DAMN as a straight guy who's as manly as it comes it takes a lot and it's been a handful of years since a movie or show turned on the old faucet eyes like tonight's episode did! The series has been perfection so far. BTW the X on the door is to let other government agencies or military know who come through that the house was searched / cleared and if a number is on the right side that's how many bodies are inside. We did this exact same code after hurricane Katrina and in Iraqi cities
The ole leaky eyes got me too man haha. Thanks for the comment bud and service
Amazing reactions!! Subbed ❤ I look forward to your reactions to the rest of this show!
One of us! One of us!
Your reactions are really wonderful!
Some bloggers correctly noted that the infection of the general mass of the population was due to flour. In 2003 episode 1, Joel, Sarah and Tommy didn't eat pancakes for breakfast, they refused the neighbors' cookies, and most importantly, Joel forgot to buy a cake for his birthday. It saved their lives except for Sarah.
And there was Jakarta mention on the radio - It IS where the largest flour mill in the world exists and exports worldwide.
the US isn't a big importer BUT, all it takes is a little bit and the machines get contaminated and ALL the flour you bag for sale gets contaminated.
My favorite reaction channel now 😍🔥😁 thanks for the reaction!!
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Lisa has been right about a lot of predictions to something might not come true right away but remember there is a last of Us 2 game
When they all first meet and it's just Joel and Bill at the table outside, Joel says that he gets it, if my...mine, brought someone new into our situation, I wouldn't be happy either. That meeting was 7 years in, and Joel and Tess were already together, so that's at least 13 years for the two of them as well.
Love the discussions. Great stuff.
This part was very different from the game but I didn’t mind at all cause it was so well done.
I think I teared up more during your reaction than I did watching the episode by myself. You guys got me. 😂
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Lol fun fact it might be in the US and the show is set in Boston but they filmed most of it here in Alberta Canada where I'm from and one of my buddies got to be onset and see some of the filming
I've seen soo many tlou reactions and, omg you're literally the first I found that caught ellie sarcastic "no" at the boyfriend question.. Finally 😂
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I love that we got this backstory of Bill and Frank and the crazy funny thing is Frank and Tess were the same and Bill and Joel were the same I cried pretty much from the raiders on it was so sweet and sad.
Really enjoyed the reaction. Some additional context from the game if curious. A bit long, but only because the deviations are pretty big.
In the game, Joel and Ellie run into Bill by setting off one of Frank’s traps littered around a town just outside Boston. It’s much more urban and Bill has jerryrigged it to keep infected and trespassers away from his bunker.
There are a few cutscenes and gameplay sections where you’re escaping infected with Bill as you search for a working truck that he knows.
In the cutscenes, Bill butts heads a lot with Ellie and warns Joel, “Seriously, you gotta take that kid back where you found her… Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time I had somebody that I cared about - a… partner - somebody I had to look after. And in this world that sorta shit is good for only one thing: getting you killed.”
The back and forth between Ellie and Bill is very funny too. At one point, Bill is mocking Joel’s request to find a car. This is the exchange:
BILL: “‘Yeah, sure Joel, go ahead. Take my car.’ Take all my food while you’re at it!”
ELLIE: “By the looks of it, you could lose some of that food.”
There is a lot of that feuding between the two and it's legitimately very funny, and gives you a better sense of Ellie's personality.
Long story short, you have two objectives in this part of the game: 1) find the truck and 2) get a battery for the truck from another car. You reach the battery first, but it’s gone. When you find it later, it’s already been placed in the truck by Frank, who you find has hung himself in the house where the truck was stored. It turned out that while preparing to leave, he got bit. So rather than turn, he offs himself and leaves a note for Bill saying he hates him because he "could never understand" what Frank needed from their time together. Their romantic relationship is hinted at, but never shown. In the end, Bill helps Joel and Ellie leave and remains alive in his town.
I've seen people calling it tragic or sad, but I think it was a happy story. They got to pass in old age, after a long life where they were loved, with agency and dignity. This is something neither queer nor disabled/terminal characters are usually granted in media.
The apocalypse happened in 2003. That is the societal framework they are coming from. One where gay marriage wasn't legal. One where initial meetings were often conducted through coding because being too open, too out, was dangerous. Especially in a small town. Bill probably had more genuine social interaction after the outbreak than beforehand. Because of small-town stigma and pre-2003 socially acceptable homophobia. From this perspective, the apocalypse gave them a chance at life they may not have gotten otherwise. Bill likely never would have known love. Frank brought beauty to Bill's life. As I have seen others say, Bill and Frank won the apocalypse.
And Bill and Joel became friends. Even if they didn't want to call it that. Mutual respect. Mutual trust. Mutual care for the other. And Joel had the code. Watching Bill's arc was a great way to externalise Joel's internal arc, they are so similar.
The show's story is exploring how love and relationships can be toxic. And this was a beautiful juxtaposition to that. I know it is different from the game, but I don't think it took anything away from the game. You still got to meet Bill - just Bill ending in a better place than the game Bill. Joel and Ellie still got resources. And it was changed in a way to enhance the story. And game players get to experience something new. In the context of queer representation in media, including the "kill your gays" trope, I really appreciated this change. And the lack of bodies was respectful of the story being told - it wasn't a story about their death. It was a story about their life and love.
Sometimes in apocalypse stories, you can end up in a place wondering if the world is worth saving. The love story topped off with a sprinkling of Ellie's delight at the world showed what they are fighting for.
at a point I laughed! Thank u for this reaction
I feel like Joel is treating the entire property like a graveyard, he won't take everything nor stay there because of the respect he has for Bill and Frank
@Life Almost Without Reactions,
18:51 "I wonder how long the fungus can survive inside of a dead body?" Until the body has nothing more to give. Killing the host doesn't kill the cordyceps; it traps them in an immobile vessel. In the first episode, the epidemiologist explained that cordyceps stave off decomposition by pumping the body full of penicillin. As long as the host has fluids, dead or alive, cordyceps will continue to live, but once the body runs out of fuel, the cordyceps will start to branch out looking for a new vessel, sort of like the infected we saw in the QZ when Tess and Joel were looking for Robert.
19:13 this could be the regular progression of the cordyceps, the transition from Runner to Stalker, as stalkers look like this--fungal growth slowly replacing the host. The next phase up from this is Clicker, which happens when the skull is cracked horizontally so that the cordyceps can fruit (blossom).
20:10 "I wonder how that guy died." ...you just saw how he died...Ellie ran her knife through his skull. Remember these aren't zombies. There's a reason why they call non-regular people infected...because they're infected. The infected are prisoners in their bodies, what's left of them is their brain, which has been cut off from the rest of the body, since the cordyceps built a wall around it in order to hijack their host's body. The host is aware of everything happening around them, but they are helpless to do anything about it. Being an infected is a fate worse than death. You're forced to watch/hear the horrors done by your hands until the someone ends you or until the cordyceps slowly feasting on you is done with you. The never ending trauma of screams and death would probably drive a person insane. Ellie did this guy a favor.
Ellie does have an unhealthy interest in these things, but there's likely a story here that we'll get soon when we get her story with Riley. Ellie was attacked by a Runner, she never saw a Clicker or a Stalker until she left the QZ, so that might be her interest right there. She's been told stories by her peers, and you know they exaggerated some details, though still rooted in fact. We should forget that Ellie has cordyceps in her too, she's not infected, but she has cordyceps. That unhealthy interest could be cordyceps related, but we'll have to watch along to see for sure.
22:10 The first episode made a point to show us all the food the MILLERS DIDN'T EAT: pancakes, biscuits, cake and cookies. The mycologist in Indonesia was told that the woman on the autopsy table was working at a flour mill, and Indonesia has the largest flour mill in the world. Joel doesn't know this, but it was the flour! The people he was around narrowed it down to a basic food ingredient, they just aren't sure which ones.
One of you, Lisa?, asked about heat killing the cordyceps, I guess fire works, BUT if they survived baking you needed to have a very, very hot fire. You also need to remember that climate change is what made the cordyceps evolve in the first place. What's possible now in their world wasn't possible in 1968, but rising temperatures caused the cordyceps to evolve into something stronger that could live in this new world with harsh weather and rising temperatures.
22:43 Well, we got a glimpse of this when Sarah died, remember? Remember those cars on the highway trying to leave Austin and the military on the other side? I bet they all got wasted. All it would take is for one of them to be infected before the order to put the all down was given. The soldier that saved Joel and Sarah was ordered to kill them all because his CO heard that "one of them was injured." Things for falling apart very quickly and the military wasn't taking any chances.
52:26 "What was the purpose of taking her to Bill and Frank?" Frank has a open heart. Joel slammed his heart shut like Bill a long time ago. With Tess out of the picture, she knew Joel would get colder and that it would be better to pass Ellie off to someone with an open heart, someone who'd protect her and keep her safe, which Bill was quite capable of doing.
54:42 The game was quite different--Bill is the way he is, but we only hear about Frank. This version of their story is far superior than the games. Period!
58:30 that's the song that's playing in the truck, right now. Bill and Franks story started with this song and now it ends with it. What a story.
I didn't sob, but I teared up--not shaming anyone who did, mind you.
Another fun reaction. Keep'em comin!
Very informative! Thank you
What a great reaction! The group therapy/crying hug got my subscribe! LOL Keep it up, you three! :)
Welcome aboard!
Lol, when someone says "I wish I were smarter" the correct response is not a pitiful "awww"
lol they murdered me there didn’t they 😅
Nick Offerman may very well get a guest star Emmy for this. As much as I've always liked him, I didn't know he was this good.
Elise needs her own channel, such great thoughts behind her theories and her voice is so calming yet confident. Kind of like a voice from an interesting documentary. great reaction.
We agree!
I agree...would love to see Elise start her own channel 🤞😏
The channel blowin up baby !
This episode is much different than the game. It was done beautifully. This to me was a win because imagine growing old in a time like this with someone you love. Bill & Frank got to choose how, where, when, and with whom they died. And got to plan the whole day. In game Bill was just an ass, hardened and then a little broken after Frank left him and got bit. Finding Franks bitten body.
I am loving your reactions! You guys react but also analyse and study the series! I also do that hahahaha even though i don't have a reaction channel
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Damn! Seems like every episode is going to be filled with emotions. Very good reaction.
Elise is 3/3 on crying
The beauty of this episode is that it subverts our expectations. We've been conditioned through modern storytelling to fear everything, especially the benign, the innocuous. Dolls, children, children with dolls, dolls that look like children, all manner of seemingly harmless and familiar things, all trying to kill you. We expect that any kindness will be answered with violence, that any trust met with betrayal. We as an audience have been primed to fear the most faithful of friends, the most reliable family members - especially in this particular genre of horror - and when we encounter a story about caring and commitment amongst the ruins of a dying world, we don't know how to process it and it hits hard. "I was not expecting this" seems to be the most common refrain, with good reason. This is ostensibly a series about a 'zombie apocalypse' where anyone and everyone can go from being a kindred soul to a mortal threat in an instant and no one is to be trusted, especially other humans. Yet this particular tale is about trust, and love, both matrimonial and romantic. It's about allowing oneself to be vulnerable and in that vulnerability, finding those moments of existence that are both ephemeral and priceless. We expect a calamity, a personal buskin beyond the destruction of our civilization. We anticipate a type of misfortune that doesn't occur. During the worst catastrophe in the history of human kind, we bear witness the best thing to ever happen to these two humans, and it's profound; jarring. We await a devastation that never comes to pass, that expectation of tragedy is subverted by a story of love. We expect blood and destruction; what we get is a masterpiece about small, beautiful lives lived less ordinary.
This is one of the best stories ever told on film, in my opinion, and it's based on a video game; we've come a long way from Pong.
While I am bummed we didn't get to see an interaction between Ellie and Bill, and that they omitted one of the better sections of the game, I realize there would be no easy way to do the section justice in the span of a single episode. Nevertheless, I'm completely satisfied with this beautiful character study of Bill, and I'm excited to see where they take the series next.
We will get the Bloater we are craving at some point 🤪
Part of the fun with Bill in the game is his interactions with Ellie. He's also gay in the game, but a lot more stern, gruff, and closed off. (Shout out to W. Earl Brown who played him in the game) In the game, his inability to trust anyone nor reach out to other people drove Frank away - who ended up offing himself after being bit (Bill, Joel and Ellie find him along their journey). Bill attempts to act like "F*** him" when they find him, but you can see the devastation in his face. In the game, Bill serves as a warning to Joel of what you become when you don't let anyone in. On the show, he serves as an example of how happy you can be if you do. But I still wish we got to see badass Bill fighting some infected with Joel and Ellie.
Elise is sharp with her observations.
No G-Shock plugs this episode? 😂
Minimal Joel airtime this episode haha. But soon …the g-shocks are coming
I always come back after watching the episode myself. Its always nice to see the reactions to this phenomenal show
I think the stones at the beginning are Joel building a cairn to the dead (Tess)
Ooooh Omg I didn’t know that was a thing till I googled it 😭🤯
Bill was a prepper, so he had all the parts to make a battery in the fridge joel checked.
Love the reactions
Thanks bud
The battery that he made is a chemical battery. It creates electricity from the chemical reaction. The chemicals can be replaced and can be reused
Yeah I failed chemistry a few times..
Joel loved Tess deeply as well, but he didn’t want to feel pain again, so he always left a wall between them to protect himself. Bill and Frank’s story is about embracing love as it makes life worth living even though it can also bring pain. That’s something that Joel struggles to deal with, so he always closes himself off.
Very beautiful episode. Another great example of deviating from the game in a way that adds to the material instead of subtracting.
BAHAHAHAHA!!!!! When the waterworks really flowed at 48:45, it reminded me of a time I met two friends for happy hour. Tacos and margaritas! I had recently lost my guy. One of my friend's just lost her husband. The other lost a friend which turned her other friend into a widow. At one point, the three of us were bawling. I then noticed the bar was empty. I think we drove everyone out. 😂🤣😂🤣
I've been binge watching "Long, Long Time" reactions for days now. This is one of my favorites.
We trauma bonding 😂🥰
Joel was trying to take Ellie to Bill and Frank so they would take her off of his hands.
This was peak television. Simply the best, most perfect television I've seen since maybe the M.A.S.H. finale decades ago. The exploration of the building early on was filler, and there's no way that Bill would have been stupid enough to stand out in the street unless a breach was imminent, but those were minor flaws. The direction and writing was as excellent as anything I've ever seen.
FINALLY reactors who realized that this is bill and frank so they stop being suspicious of frank early on. some of the others didn't realize for so long
I can't say anymore than "Incredible well done"
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Great reaction as always guys! I cried with this episode too, but to be honest It’s not hard for me to tear up with movies/tv shows. I found my baseball cards BTW, the guy who stoled them was convinced to give them back to me:)
Yes!!!!!! What a great honest thief!
Okay, the rock stacking. That is an old Celtic & Norse tradition. In this specific instance, it is very similar to the Scott's purpose for the rocks. Rock stack burial memorials were common, and people coming to visit would add a new rock to the stack.
Real tears. I’m glad they updated it from an lgbt couple can’t have happiness. When Bill said he was never afraid until he met Frank I broke. Also I notice people keep mentioning it but Joel isn’t giving a gun to the girl who reminds him of his daughter who was shot no matter how practical it is
loving your reactions and in-depth discussions! my favorite episode so far, and probably one of the most heartbreaking TV episodes i've ever seen..
Wow, thank you! Yeah this episode was incredibly moving
You don't have to be a gun person to own a firearm. It can save your life or a loved one as you said. As long as you respect the tool and recognize the responsibilities.
You guys were so quiet when Nick Offerman sang! And Hugo, I'm a burly 64-year-old who bawled. for this episode.
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That first sumptuous lunch that Bill made for Frank... Yeah, that is not a meal you make for someone you're trying to get rid of. That is a meal you make for someone you're trying to impress. That is a meal you make when you hope the guy will stick around. About Bill's startled reaction when he enters with the plates: Partly he is startled to find Frank standing, not sitting, but I think mainly it's the first time he has seen Frank all cleaned up. He doesn't know what to do with the fact that such a handsome man is in his house, close enough to touch...
Anyway, here it is a year after you filmed this reaction (which I enjoyed). I'm way behind in my TV viewing.
This is a very wholesome explanation ❤️ thanks bud.
As a massive fan of the game, I can say this episode deviated a LOT from how this stuff worked in the game. That being said this absolutely broke me and I'm glad they did it like this. The way it was in the game would not have necessarily worked in the medium of a tv series and the whole backstory with Bill and Frank would not have made sense in the game.
Everything except for the gym scene would be hard for TV. Even then it can't be restricted to the gym, they'd have to create a longer sequence for it. But I hope they bring it later on in the show, maybe not for winter but for spring.
@@peterdanidson8109 Man, fuck off. If you wanted an exact copy of the game, go play the game or watch one of those YT videos of the game as a movie. You lot cry about love stories in other games and now you're doing it in a fucking story game's TV adaptation that set out with a goal to not just bring an adaptation to a non-gamer audience, but also give some new stuff for game players and new people alike. Hell, most of the last of us is not about the infected, but rather the way the humans in this world deal with the situation caused by the infected. It was the point of winter, of the end of part 1, of the DLC and certainly all of part 2.
Furthermore, you watch the episode, then come and watch other people's reactions and then comment hating it. Here's an idea if you hate it so much why not just, not watch it or not watch additional reaction videos to it. Just an idea.
@@peterdanidson8109 As I said, the last of us deals with how people react to a world ruined by infected. This episode showed how these other people reacted to it. You can play the game again if you want what the game offered.
@@peterdanidson8109 Oh wow, a homophobe complaining about the TV adaptation of a game series that has like 7 LGBT characters. You do know Bill and Frank are gay in the game right? And Ellie has like 3 girlfriends/female love interests over 2 games, one of which you spend 50% of the game with. And yes, you hated it because it has LGBT themes or is "woke" as you put it, that's exactly a homophobe. I didn't call you that until you brought that up.
@@peterdanidson8109 Freedom of speech is not freedom from the consequences of that speech. You're free to say it and not get arrested by the government. You're not free from being called out as a bigot or a homophobe. The point where it switched from a discussion about whether its a necessity to have an episode dedicated to a romance on TV separate from the protagonists to a discussion about your homophobia and bigotry is when you called it a "travesty" and said it was "shoving LGBT" and other similar statements. And your "I'm bi" statement is exactly the same thing as "I can't be racist, I have a black friend".
Now, if you'll excuse (or not, I don't care), I'm done talking to a wall on the internet. Have fun, bricks for brains.
The fungus can also spread when people fail to properly clean surfaces, bowls, and utensils used to prep the dough.
Bro cleanliness would be what took me out then haha
Yup.
People rub their eyes, nose, touch their mouth during cooking.
They breath in flour when they are too vigorous
They undercook things
In the game Frank isn’t alive because he committed suicide, because he became infected. Unlike the show it’s never clearly stated if Bill’s and Frank’s relationship was romantic, but in the game Bill was telling Joel that “love makes you weak” or “holds you down” I always thought he and Frank had either and romantic relationship or a strong friendship and he closed himself off to feeling anything, because the one person he truly cared about he couldn’t save (much like Joel and Tess). I loved this episode and glad it gave us a breather lol 😂
They make it very clear they were in a romantic relationship though. I mean Ellie finds Bill’s stash of gay porn and steals a magazine, I think that pretty much confirmed it.
Appreciate the discussion peeps 🤗
@@chrisi1466 Wait though I thought it was a lesbian magazine and that’s why Ellie took it? It was never explicitly said if Bill was gay and it pretty much left Frank and Bill’s relationship open to interpretation by the player.
@@LifeAlmostWithoutus As a lover of the games I’ve always loved that TLOU Fandom wasn’t some group of toxic players (at least not towards each other) lol 😂 it’s always been a really great way to have conversations with people about real life issues as well. Loved the reaction ❤️
@@codygates7418 It's not made explicit (imagine how the backlash would have been), but pretty clear. When Ellie looks at the porn mag, she says something like "how can he even walk with that thing hanging there?"
Love you guys, authentic reactions
What beautiful reactions. Thank you for this video guys :)
No problem bud
Great reaction to a great episode
See ya in a couple hours 😊
Nice reaction! Also the guy is so handsome 😍
Finally!! Somebody notices me!! 😂 January 31st 2023 I got complimented
@@LifeAlmostWithoutus 😂 just stating facts 😍
Great episode that proves that Hugo is a real human being. Unlike what some have commented before, he is not an ass, he just occasionally plays one on YT😂😂. Great production value on the new camera too
😂 there is a common saying in this house. “He’s an ass but he’s our ass”
Pretty sure he would prefer to be referred to as “America’s Ass” 😂😂😂😂😂
I cried. Feeling the emotions of all the characters😭
Yes, a clicker DOES have a "helmet"
In fact:
Fungi cell walls are composed of CHITIN - The same material that makes up Crab and Lobster shells.
Chitin is VERY durable. SO durable that engineers at the University of Houston are using chitin and 3D printing techniques to produce high-impact multilayered coatings that can protect soldiers against bullets, lasers, toxic gas and other dangers.
"gotta look out for those... ravers" lol
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With the deaths of these emotionally invested characters in each episode, it really gives a deeper meaning to the title ‘The Last of Us.’
This was the first time I cried to a freaking hole on the ground.
I NEVER cry, bro. I just happen to always be in really dusty rooms.
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Not many people know this but Frank had multiple sclerosis. That’s why he couldn’t paint the same or get into bed alone.
Figured it was some type of degenerative disease
That was what I was wondering too. Initially my mind went to cancer but after seeing the change in his art and mobility it did seem neurological :(.
Exactly the same clothes as in the game when they change. It's like them putting on their official uniforms
Got to say a day later, watching you guys tear up before the "Up" sequence really starts, I just knew there'd be waterworks. "All because he fell in your whole." 😏 But then, "And they both died." 😭
That damn hole 😂
I 100% agree with elaine(?). The sooner you teach her to use a firearm, the safer everyone will be. Not because she knows how to use it, only because she knows how NOT to use it.