Marie-Louise von Franz on the Anima in Men

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  • @abracadabra868
    @abracadabra868 20 днів тому +72

    The anima may be the greatest problem many men face in their inner lives. It is incredible how we choose (or are chosen) by persons who perfectly embody our own anima, and the moral problem of dealing with it, not losing our independent energy of selfhood to it, is daunting. The anima brings paradox upon paradox to the feeling life of a man; the treasure of belonging, and the trap of self-betrayal.

    • @noodlenate
      @noodlenate 8 днів тому +1

      @@abracadabra868 exactly...thank you.

    • @kelvinbel8910
      @kelvinbel8910 4 дні тому +2

      I look at the pictures of bearded gurus on my wall and take bitter comfort in knowing they are men just like me too.

  • @jtrealfunny
    @jtrealfunny Місяць тому +58

    14:30 "Life is a river that ends in the ocean of eternity." The lady says this with a tone as if she's saying "without enough water the oatmeal will burn" and yet, think about it, we all end in the ocean of eternity and our lives our meaningless compared with geological time. Really cool perspective from this person.

    • @JayS.-mm3qr
      @JayS.-mm3qr 7 днів тому +1

      @@jtrealfunny yeah it's a beautiful saying. It seems as though they are so used to speaking in mataphors, she just says it like it's nothing. She seems to think metaphors are literally true.

    • @jtrealfunny
      @jtrealfunny 7 днів тому +1

      @@JayS.-mm3qr Good for her, and thank you. From yoga I got, "God (yoga for me) is the constant resort of all good men, as the ocean is the constant resort of the rivers."

  • @QuadrivialArts
    @QuadrivialArts Місяць тому +89

    It's so rare for the follower of a great thinker to be a more useful interface than the thinker themselves, but I am certainly finding MLVF's insight and communication style to be perfect for (re)discovering the depth psychology of Jung.

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  Місяць тому +22

      She is more than a follower, she was working closely with Jung for 30 years, and as you say, she is a great guide!

    • @curtrod
      @curtrod 26 днів тому +4

      ah but she was so much more than an interface 😊

    • @annap.974
      @annap.974 24 дні тому +3

      They both obviously shared one soul. She's been an equal to Jung.

    • @jdjones4825
      @jdjones4825 22 дні тому +1

      This woman is amazing

    • @Soft-Shell
      @Soft-Shell 17 днів тому

      Haha wow I love your name her grandfather the great Kurt was one of a kind

  • @G_Confalonieri
    @G_Confalonieri 17 днів тому +26

    Maybe that is why despite my countless female encounters, i could not find "true love", it already haunts me in my dreams in the form of an ideal young lady I first love secretly in pain in my teen years. I've been stuck since then searching for her in other women. "There are no substitutes in love" claims a movie.

    • @mangoeater5624
      @mangoeater5624 16 днів тому +7

      @@G_Confalonieri don't let yourself down.. you will find love, but not if you keep looking for something that doesn't exist.

    • @anitago
      @anitago 14 днів тому +12

      @@G_Confalonieri you might be incapable of real love for real humans only of idealistic desire for a beautiful object.

    • @reemsaif3105
      @reemsaif3105 12 днів тому +1

      @@G_Confalonieri thanks for sharing 🪷🧚🏼

    • @reemsaif3105
      @reemsaif3105 12 днів тому

      It's not the point. The point is he spilled it out ❤l​@@anitago

    • @Chris-dt5td
      @Chris-dt5td 10 днів тому +1

      Think about what are you loosing if you don't let go of ideal female.

  • @danielkelley7548
    @danielkelley7548 14 днів тому +15

    “The higher form of love is also something with a grain of salt in it.”
    “And what do you mean by that?”
    ::mischievous smile::
    “I won’t say!”

    • @thousandpetalsproject1494
      @thousandpetalsproject1494 13 днів тому

      @@danielkelley7548 death is the highest form of love

    • @danielkelley7548
      @danielkelley7548 12 днів тому

      @ In what way?

    • @danielkelley7548
      @danielkelley7548 12 днів тому +1

      @ You mean self-sacrifice in the sense that a man plants a tree he’ll never sit under the shade of?

    • @JayS.-mm3qr
      @JayS.-mm3qr 8 днів тому +2

      @@danielkelley7548 I did not understand that. It sounded important and she wouldn't say.

    • @danielkelley7548
      @danielkelley7548 8 днів тому +2

      @ Here’s an interesting tidbit: In Tarot, the third major arcana card is The Empress. She’s associated with the Gnostic Sofia and also the alchemical element of Salt. I wonder if there’s a connection there.

  • @ericanorton71
    @ericanorton71 7 днів тому +6

    I am new to Jung. There are parallels between this lady's description of a man's fantasies and my marriage. I am the fantasy woman my husband always dreamed of, down to the last detail. I've always wondered what significance that had in our marriage. This is very interesting. Thank you 🙏❤🙏

  • @robertmitchell8630
    @robertmitchell8630 13 днів тому +6

    Carl Jung's anima and animus are Jungian archetypes that represent the unconscious masculine and feminine aspects of each person:
    Anima
    The feminine aspect of a man's unconscious. It's a personification of all feminine tendencies, both positive and negative. Positive expressions of the anima include sensitivity, empathy, and a capacity for loving relationships.
    Jung believed that everyone is born with the potential for both sets of gender characteristics, but only one is developed consciously. The other set remains latent in the unconscious. Jung theorized that dreams often compensate for this one-sidedness by featuring archetypal images of the opposite gender.
    Jung believed that the anima and animus are symbolic representations of inner psychological forces that bridge the personal unconscious with the collective unconscious. Integrating these archetypes into a coherent whole is an essential factor in personal growth.

  • @coleman318
    @coleman318 Місяць тому +16

    Circumambulating return that feels like a cannon ball heart bomb. Such powerful words.

  • @yeahweburnstuff
    @yeahweburnstuff 22 дні тому +4

    Profound, beautiful, wise. Thank you dear Maria.

  • @eszterm.6324
    @eszterm.6324 23 дні тому +10

    I adore her! I just discovered her. I am hooked!

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  23 дні тому +4

      I feel you. There are hours of her content on this channel-enjoy the profound consciousness she shares.

  • @gameaudioshaman
    @gameaudioshaman Місяць тому +17

    Love her so much

  • @susanegley4149
    @susanegley4149 24 дні тому +6

    So wise and I adore her accent! ❤

    • @andretobias2439
      @andretobias2439 8 днів тому

      Yes well analyzed 😊 man in the spirit of the Christo, Jesus

  • @Foot.ballinD1
    @Foot.ballinD1 9 днів тому

    So wise, so profoundly interesting, im was invested in this for so long

  • @NewfolderD
    @NewfolderD Місяць тому +24

    My experience, being in classroom in overtly sexualized girls required from me repressing my sexuality.
    To focus and not drift away form lesson forced me to turn off sexuality.
    Sexy girls force boys to repress their sexuality just for boys to be able to compete.
    If you are a women and have highly educated and sexually turned off husband, thats what may happened.
    Lack of female understanding how strong those drives are in young boys brought catastrophe.
    I know many men who share exactly the same experience. After years of learning to cut off from sexual fantasies men are totally turned off sexually.
    It's huge loss for married women.

    • @NewfolderD
      @NewfolderD Місяць тому +7

      @evamontheiro thanks. It's very interesting.
      Actually it was part of my experience.
      Being highly intellectual.
      It may be interesting to you that after cutting off my mother, sisters and wife my testosterone skyrocketed and I gained lots of muscle.
      Yep, repression is the thing.
      Now spirituality is my thing.
      Btw. I know EXACTLY what causes this shift. It's repressed anger towards the mother. Oppressive mother prevents any expression of anger and rejection.
      The same was with my wife.
      For sure "dragon mother" will be interesting to me.
      Thank you for mentioning it.

    • @NewfolderD
      @NewfolderD Місяць тому +1

      @@evamontheiro Do you remember title of the video where Marie discusses "dragon mothers"?

    • @13vo7
      @13vo7 Місяць тому +6

      pluck out your eyes if they offend you

    • @NewfolderD
      @NewfolderD 29 днів тому +2

      @@13vo7 what about causing others to sin? 😉
      I remember girls boasting about wearing whatever they like, not considering their influence on boys.
      Now when I'm hearing about another "narcissistic" husband who doesn't consider special female needs I'm laughing my ass off.
      Who would suspect that lack of empathy can work both ways 😉
      My company provides services to the households.
      Men are emotionally detached after being treated like crap throughout youth.
      Women are emotionally and sexually hungry to the point where it's hard for me to remember one job where woman was not offering some "special payment".
      I don't read studies but after hundreds of jobs I know exactly what reality looks like.
      Female selfishness brought destruction of the marriage.
      Being emotionally available, in shape and polite (not nice) is enough after 30 😄

    • @NewfolderD
      @NewfolderD 29 днів тому +2

      @@13vo7 Yep, consideration for men is beneath average women.
      It's oppressive.
      A boy hurt by one girl will be a husband to another one. Isn't it interesting 🤔
      The most popular cause for divorce is an emotionally distant husband?
      Who would suspect.
      "My boyfriend doesn't even want to hug me" (my sister).
      Yep, because he is abusive by nature 😄
      Not because he was unkindly treated by women in his youth. That cannot be.
      How about a wife who learns in youth to not consider male needs because they're oppressive and patriarchal?
      Will she be a good wife and mother to her son?
      Sure.
      Women are harming themselves. It's not even selfish. It's simply stupid.

  • @ojovathiramakrishnan4141
    @ojovathiramakrishnan4141 29 днів тому +4

    *Nityasubhashitam # 140*
    विद्या ददाति विनयं विनयाद्याति पात्रताम् ।
    पात्रत्वाद्धनमाप्नोति धनाद्धर्मं ततः सुखम् ॥
    Knowledge gives us discipline, Worthiness comes from Discipline, Wealth comes from Worthiness, Good deeds are result of Wealth, and by doing Good deeds we get Happiness ( Satisfaction / Joy ).

  • @Xx_elcaballo_31_xX
    @Xx_elcaballo_31_xX 3 дні тому

    The anima is male and the female is the animus. This is also in the book “Iron John: A book of men” which is a great read by the way. I will look into the jungian version of it soon 👍

  • @drewberry8141
    @drewberry8141 11 днів тому +1

    😮......wow what a time to be alive

  • @Thereisnorules
    @Thereisnorules 26 днів тому +21

    Modern life fcked up most men's life

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  26 днів тому +28

      It's our mission to unfuck ourselves, reach deep for guidance and meaning, become conscious of ourselves and grow toward balance, maturity, wholeness. We are no one's victims.

    • @Robin-k9m7h
      @Robin-k9m7h 20 днів тому +6

      @@The_Jungian_Aion well said. So true! I'm trying to un f myself. Lol

    • @BlackPanther-wq9xl
      @BlackPanther-wq9xl 19 днів тому +5

      @@Thereisnorules Quit blaming external sources and take charge of your life… change what does not reflect what you want to see in the world

    • @Ribsi62
      @Ribsi62 15 днів тому +2

      @@Robin-k9m7h 🌵🌻🍀♥️

    • @citrix123
      @citrix123 4 дні тому +2

      I was a lonely shy boy in school that didn't mix well , at home we get our first computer and I found corn , was not addicted but knew it was fantasy , but as she says I've spent 25 years of my life in a day dream , wow 😧 thanks for this channel

  • @kenfrank911
    @kenfrank911 19 днів тому +2

    When the church abolished the ?kudamor? Or ?couram? - what did she say or what is that around 2:02

    • @nothankyou2013
      @nothankyou2013 19 днів тому +4

      cour d'amour: court of love - the French chivalric dedications that she refers to later in the video

    • @kenfrank911
      @kenfrank911 17 днів тому

      @ thank you

  • @ratzepal9533
    @ratzepal9533 29 днів тому +1

    Schöne Arbeit die du hier machst:)

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  28 днів тому +1

      Danke Bruder, ich freue mich, dass es dir Spaß macht.

  • @barnabysmith5275
    @barnabysmith5275 12 днів тому

    Beautiful words

  • @michaelrichardjnr9600
    @michaelrichardjnr9600 Місяць тому +8

    If anyone has any ideas or educated guesses as to what she meant by the salt comment upon which she refused to elaborate please reply. I don’t know enough about this lady or jungian stylings to even guess what she meant or why she refused

    • @fromthezou
      @fromthezou Місяць тому

      @@michaelrichardjnr9600 Marie-Louise von Franz, a prominent Jungian analyst, often explored the interplay between the conscious and unconscious elements of the psyche, and the integration of opposites. When she says that “the highest form of love is something with a grain of salt in it,” she likely means that true, mature love is not purely idealized or one-sided but involves a balance of reality and fantasy, light and shadow.
      In a psychological context, love that is “pure” without any “salt” may be unrealistic or an illusion, lacking the depth that comes with facing the imperfections of both the self and the other. The “grain of salt” could symbolize the necessary boundaries, wisdom, or realism that help temper overwhelming or blind passion with clarity, allowing for love to be truly sustainable and grounded. This could be seen as a mature love, where both partners acknowledge each other’s flaws, weaknesses, and complexities, rather than idealizing or projecting unrealistic expectations onto one another.
      From a Jungian perspective, this quote also alludes to the integration of opposites-the conscious and unconscious, the light and dark aspects of the self and the other. In this view, the “grain of salt” could also represent the shadow-the parts of ourselves that we must confront in order to experience a fuller, more complete love. Without acknowledging the shadow, love risks becoming distorted or based on an unrealistic fantasy.
      Ultimately, von Franz’s words suggest that love is healthiest when it involves a level of realism, where idealization is balanced with acceptance of imperfection-allowing both partners to grow, evolve, and truly meet each other as they are.

    • @klightlightmusic
      @klightlightmusic Місяць тому +10

      Perhaps: The experience of true love is not sublime perfection only. It also encompasses real flavors of ourselves unexpected and real - challenges along with the sublime.

    • @papaparanoya
      @papaparanoya Місяць тому +10

      @@michaelrichardjnr9600 Probably not a coincidence she used the term "grain of salt". My feeling is she is trying to say loving somebody deeply, honestly and fruitfully is not mutually exclusive with having an understanding of their faults and blind spots - i.e. knowing "how" to love a woman. If not, you will provoke their dark side, to the detriment of both sides

    • @michaelrichardjnr9600
      @michaelrichardjnr9600 Місяць тому +3

      @@klightlightmusic so then I ask, why would she be so cryptic about this? Thanks by the way

    • @michaelrichardjnr9600
      @michaelrichardjnr9600 Місяць тому

      @@papaparanoya so then I ask, why would she be so cryptic about this?

  • @jacobmichael462
    @jacobmichael462 11 днів тому

    Christ said “my God my God why have you forsaken me” because that’s the beginning of Psalm 22

  • @knowone3529
    @knowone3529 16 днів тому +2

    Oh hello Marie

  • @EnochtheAnointedOne
    @EnochtheAnointedOne 6 днів тому

    Thank you

  • @cotstu5683
    @cotstu5683 15 днів тому +8

    No one will believe me but I see people as skeletons walking about everyday. Completely empty. Soulless. Dead.

  • @stewartthomas4193
    @stewartthomas4193 9 днів тому +2

    Everyone knows the allegory of the cave told by Plato.
    Told in modern terms it can be compared to playing an X-Box game ( holographic)
    The prisoners are the players who believe that they are the characters on the screen.
    They are subjected to the socialisation of consciousness, ego aware-unaware, rules of the game.
    Withdraw into yourself and look.
    A synthetic a posteriori judgement is one whose truth or falsity can be determined by experience.
    By practising mind control/ stilling the mind, your awareness/consciousness rises into the 4th dimension/Light/Self/God.
    Practice is the sole criterion for testing Truth.
    Matthew 23 : 13,14,15.

  • @simonnilsson5356
    @simonnilsson5356 17 днів тому

    How was their lives not just running around being asked by random people to interpret their dreams? At this age, after being asked hundreds (maybe thousands) of times. She still puts real thought into analysing it. Amazing. That’s someone who really loves their job 😁 This was profound and I must learn more about this. It resonated with me and my experience so much. Also, the top comment on the video gave it even more clarity. What is hers and Jung’s prescription or a healthy relationship and management of one’s Anima?

  • @TheRealGonads
    @TheRealGonads 10 днів тому

    Just wow 🙏

  • @Megaliberator-mt4dc
    @Megaliberator-mt4dc 7 днів тому

    These things has to be thought in High school

  • @YoshiEaterX
    @YoshiEaterX 11 днів тому +2

    My Anima is Lil Rae Black

  • @saturatedneowax
    @saturatedneowax 4 дні тому

    wow

  • @michaelgarrow3239
    @michaelgarrow3239 18 днів тому +13

    I blame mom… 😂

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  18 днів тому +6

      Try to see her as a human being, just like you-struggling to navigate the world, acting from instinct, education, and the patterns she herself was taught. Blame won't aid in healing or growth.

    • @michaelgarrow3239
      @michaelgarrow3239 18 днів тому +3

      @ - Hello. Sometimes my sarcasm doesn’t translate well in this format.
      However: after a few years of psychiatrists it has validity.
      I got past childhood; except for, (🙄) some subconscious predilections of finding women like my mom and trying to fix them. They all eventually betrayed me.
      To the point of lying to police to get me arrested and forced ray-pe. It gets worse but I want to be brief.
      To the point I had a psychotic break.
      Anyway: lost everything (millions) and now live in a shipping container in the desert.
      Anyway mom was just a backwoods hick, dad too. I have made peace with them mostly.

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  18 днів тому +1

      @@michaelgarrow3239 What a journey brother! What is your next step now?

    • @michaelgarrow3239
      @michaelgarrow3239 17 днів тому

      @@The_Jungian_Aion - let me fill you in on now first.
      I have been living day-to-day. Mostly because I’m lost out here in the desert, far from home. Also; my mind has not been functioning well. I read on the internet stress can do that. Messing up hormones in the amygdala, hippocampus, and such. I’m getting better, it is slow progress.
      I poop in a hole in the ground. Someone gave me a camper- so I have a shower, locking door, propane stove, and a bed. I don’t have running water; or electricity, aside from a couple solar panels.
      I have good friends though.
      Sorry rambling…
      My mind is coming back on line slowly.
      I am learning to play guitar. I play on open mike nights. I aspire to be able to do a few sets someday. I practice every day.
      My future plans involve getting my house back. Flying skydivers at Oceanside airport. Collecting royalties from a patent I have that I had brought to market.
      The patent project was ruined along with everything else by a gal with a PhD in psychology. She is a psychopath.
      In 2005 I was studying to be a corporate pilot, doing extremely well on check-rides, when another long term girlfriend ended that career before it started.
      The patent is licensed to Rock River Arms. They have it listed on the website but haven’t started shipping.
      I am concerned my unconscious is going to undermine everything I do. It is a problem I had since childhood. My hope is it is not going to happen again.
      Are you a real person?

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  17 днів тому +1

      Sounds like the necessary descent for renewal and reorientation. I love that you’re learning guitar, living simply, and surrounding yourself with good friends. The unconscious will mirror back the face you show it-that’s the relationship to nurture most. Trust this journey; I have a good intuition for you. And yes, I’m real.

  • @Nicolas-x7v4z
    @Nicolas-x7v4z Місяць тому +2

    Up 🎉

  • @YugiohArizona
    @YugiohArizona Місяць тому +2

    Love you

  • @kennethart4529
    @kennethart4529 14 днів тому +7

    She sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s mother

    • @linxxtvsmoovin7161
      @linxxtvsmoovin7161 Годину тому

      @kennethart4529 oh my gosh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I can't believe a man jus said that😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jordancarlin9687
    @jordancarlin9687 8 днів тому +2

    She’s got the exact same accent as dr strangelove😅

  • @ugomariapablo
    @ugomariapablo 9 днів тому

    2:05 forced the knights to worship the Virgin Mary??? Oh God! Another person spewing lies against Christianity and the Church. It feels like they can't speak without saying something false about Christian history 🤦🏾

  • @TheMightyWalk
    @TheMightyWalk 27 днів тому +6

    Lmao that line with a grain of salt

    • @angelxmod3
      @angelxmod3 25 днів тому +3

      3:15 the highest form of love also has a grain of salt. Think that means that no matter how much you love someone there is always a boundary which you cannot forgive or tolerate or have to address

    • @ebbbflow
      @ebbbflow 12 днів тому

      And she wouldn’t reveal why it is so lol

  • @IKE-j4h
    @IKE-j4h 19 годин тому

    Nein.Nein.Nein.
    Das Kreuz?.
    Das ist doch unser Bewusstsein.
    Anima Animus. Das ist das Crux
    Denken und Fühlen.
    Das Paradies hat uns mit unserem Besusstsein bestraft.

  • @koningBaasvdWereld
    @koningBaasvdWereld 25 днів тому +1

    Mlvf is my sophia

  • @AaronIAM-g3u
    @AaronIAM-g3u 15 днів тому

    ✌️

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier 7 днів тому

    What's a point of this?

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  6 днів тому

      Just like the point of life itself: to become conscious and to become yourself as wholly as possible.

    • @NoahSpurrier
      @NoahSpurrier 6 днів тому

      @The_Jungian_Aion That's too hard. I want to play an easier game.

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  6 днів тому +1

      @@NoahSpurrier Adopting this attitude consciously might actually make things harder, as the unconscious mind will probably step in to balance the scales and teach you the value of struggle and mission. Instead, you could choose to embrace hard work and challenging pursuits willingly-transforming them into a meaningful journey. Just a thought.

  • @andreaLasagni
    @andreaLasagni 18 днів тому

    Salus prof

  • @pagman7338
    @pagman7338 7 днів тому

    Yeah it's interesting but I do not agree

  • @GordiansKnotHere
    @GordiansKnotHere 28 днів тому +2

    Sounds like she needed to have a sit down with Bukowski to really explain her philosophy regarding men...

    • @The_Jungian_Aion
      @The_Jungian_Aion  28 днів тому +3

      She sat down with many men as an analyst, keeping close to her someone greater, more complete, and wiser than Bukowski-Jung.

    • @GordiansKnotHere
      @GordiansKnotHere 28 днів тому +5

      @@The_Jungian_Aion I wasn't referring to Bukowski as wise, more of his attitude to intellectuals. Jung, well... to consider oneself all-knowing when it comes to men. Whatever...

  • @followtheciaence
    @followtheciaence 12 днів тому

    Is there any way to get her wisdom from a different narrator? The accent just takes a lot of energy to focus on

  • @TimothyQuander
    @TimothyQuander 10 днів тому

    Wtf

    • @rayhern4343
      @rayhern4343 7 днів тому

      The empress has no clothes and everyone is swooning!!!

  • @phillipjordan1010
    @phillipjordan1010 12 днів тому +4

    Im proud of being a
    Barbarian Pagan