Liars, hypocrites, and why none of it matters
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- We’re in the age of the argument, and charges of hypocrisy have overrun our political and cultural discourse. But Lou wonders - does it matter if people are genuine? And are we getting distracted by unimportant character issues?
SOURCES & FURTHER READING
Why Do We Hate Hypocrites?
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Effron’s study on hypocrisy and culture
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Effron’s study on paying a price for past misdeeds
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Talisse & Aikens on hypocrisy
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Talisse & Aikens on how to argue
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Aikens on the significance of hypocrisy
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Hypocrisy and Moral Authority
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Let Us Not Be Hypocritical (“The only unforgiveable sin”)
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The Real Problem With Hypocrisy
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Writer: Louis Foglia
Editor: m.cho
Researcher: Dushyant Naresh
Supervising Producer: Allison Brown
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FWIW - You can make the argument that when a spokesperson seemingly violates his/her professed beliefs - that actually strengthens his/her argument. A smoker who can’t quit cigarettes, for example, isn’t a hypocrite when he tells his son not to smoke. He’s proof that cigarettes are addictive, a good reason for his son not to start in the first place. And, the fact that Al Gore has a big carbon footprint can be interpreted as a sign that even a die-hard environmentalist can’t avoid fossil-fuel consumption, therefore the government should adopt policies that make alternative energy easily available.
Louis Foglia you should do a podcast
I think hypocrisy is only good to keep in mind when dealing with that individual in the future, and only when the hypocrisy is more akin to what Mitch your speaker of the house has done with things like the scotus nomination, letting the debt balloon to 1 trillion, I just don't know how you can not believe he is going to lie and play games I think the American people have to say to people like that NO just NO you were not highered to fight with democrats at all cost then remake the country into a All-White male run government. It is scary because it really feels like they won already way back when we had thought we were safe from this insidious brainwashing.
Gore could avoid fossil fuel consumption - he could travel in a Tesla or other E vehicle. Hell, Arnold even had an E Hummer made for him. Now *THAT'S* the way to swing your political weight around.
The smoker or Al Gore you mentioned are the losers in their hypocritical battles. The smoker has a history of experience and that alone does validate his words more but not to the extreme. A true leader *leads by **_example_*_ and this will never change._
Louis Foglia in your example of Al Gore still using fossil fuels despite environmental beliefs, does that necessarily make him a hypocrite or is he more or less forced to make decisions against his personal beliefs because of a lack of alternatives? With the smoker, is he a hypocrite if he lacks the willpower to stop despite wanting to?
His/her not hiz/hur/ze/zir/xin/hoz/his/wizzer....
Wow Lou, you are such a transphobe... *boom* UNSUBSCRIBED
'If BAD behaviour can be excused because someone else acting WORSE, where would that end?' - lou
- "Stop raping that 3 year old kid"
- "But that other guy there is raping a 2 year old, so shut up"
White cake?
My life needs more Lou.
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I think more people should have went out for their High School debate teams (including myself). Straw man arguments, whataboutisms and intellectually-dishonest debate tactics are all points against in competition.
I got cut from the debate team first tryout Freshman year.
This. Pointing out that someone's a hypocrite is a perfect example of an ad hominem attack.
"Its satisfying to win a fight. It harder to change a mind" Well said
This news channel is a breath of fresh air. Who woulda thought from CNN right? I can still feel Casey's creative direction through the genuine perspective demonstrated in each and every news story. That's why I'm still subbed. Keep it up Beme!
I agree with the "the message has nothing to do with the messenger" part of hypocricy, but there is a part of it when someone holds teo viewpoints that are contradictory, that does matter, because it shows inconsistancy in a persons thinking, and inconsistancy leads to bad thinking.
This video was so satisfying to watch because it explains why politocs is so endlessly frustrating
You're missing the point that why hypocrisy is so terrible is because it makes it safe to assume that the hypocrite doesn't actually care about the issue they're talking about. Instead, they could just be saying it to gain publicity, to sound smart, or for some other dishonest reason. How can one care for climate change if they drive a hummer, own a coal power plant, and eat only beef for every meal? It's not the same as a smoking father telling his son not to smoke because he's actually addicted and can't physically stop without extreme effort, he's sharing wisdom with his son from a lesson he learned the hard way. A fossil fuel guzzler can stop any day or at least be planning to stop, but the hypocrite doesn't, it's not like they're addicted to gas, they can physically stop if they wanted to but they're just greedy
There's an evolutionary reason as to why humans hate hypocrites and it's likely for a good/beneficial reason
Agree , though the point of the video is about people who points out others mistake to justify their mistake, hypocrisy oftenly towards to something bad
A very good point Lou.. The ideas can still be valid even if we as humans don't execute them perfectly.
I think we all have ideals that we're not strong enough to live up to. Admitting when we come up short - even if just to ourselves - is really important and is how we can maintain some standards.
Hate comments by all hypocrites :)
This is a great set of issues for Lou to bring up, particularly for a younger crowd who might be more apt to get caught up in the noise of it all. Once you get more experienced you get wise and see more of these things for what they really are. Don't let anyone's spin doctor run your life!
young or old, all can fall victim to manipulations of human emotions. Emotional responses are reactionary and unless we put forth effort to think logically, and try to separate the core substantive arguments from our emotions, our path towards the truth or to a future thats in humanity's best interests will be continually diverted
That outro tho
Yea but what about other outros on youtube
Hit the Hypocritical Nail on the Head!...Well Done!
People throw around hypocrisy like crazy, and it's not useful at all, as when accused of hypocrisy, it leads people to make assumptions, which are often wrong.
good idea, Lou. The underlying idea. Immigration. What the left, right, media...everyone is NOT talking about...the reason(s) people leave their home country, walk (presumably) thousands of miles, risk many dangers and arrest just to get to the USA. Lou, you and BEME could report on Mexico, Equador, etc. where things are SO bad that tens of thousands flee. What are THOSE governments doing, or not doing? Let's look at the cause and explore that.
Aren’t you just condemning another group of hypocrites when you prevent THEM from condemning hypocrisy? If people say “condemning pop icons doesn’t help your cause.” Well if you are focused on certain issues, neither does condemning the people condemning.
Edit: By “you” I don’t mean you guys at Beme :)
The hypocrisy is baked into the system. We just pantomime because that is all we know.
Nice Cuse mug. Thowing the like for the Orange! (But none of this matters)
Liars do seem to advance in life though. For example somebody sells his company for $25 million and says he'll stick around to help the site grow but at the end he just takes the money and leave the company to sink and transform into just another so or so UA-cam channel.
Sorry man but carbon credits are actually a very valueable way to help the environment while not damaging the economy as much as alternatives. If this is some outrage tactic I would consider you yourself a hypocrit; even if it isn't you are still throwing a movement to save the environment under the bus for a quick, lazy, unresearched punchline of a soundbit. Please be more considerate in the future and put in the research. You do a decent job with nuance but better knowledge will only improve the show.
Relevant words (such as these) are seldom spoken now a days.
Why you guys don't get views this channel awesome f the Paul's u guys should have million views
dismissing the message because of the messenger doesn't make any sense. This is the pinnacle point of all vegan arguments.
people like to be active on topics they feel they can make a change with. I cant fix global warming but if i work together i with a few people online we can shame a celebrity and feel like we accomplished something.
That was a very thoughtful and true report.
i just realized that beme improved since casey left
I thought this channel was an extension of be me from Casey I know he sold it so why didn't cnn close this down too
Beme don't give up your doing something awesome.👍
I have zero problem with hypocrites
everything distracts us from the real story these days huh
Why can't I like this video twice?
Are those mini jellyfish? in the fishtank in the backround real? and if so what species is it?
No - they're fake.
Interesting video.
Very good content.
Actually excellent video
I wholeheartedly agree.
With the whole Al gore and decaprio part. It does kinda make sense because if they really believed that climate change was such a bad thing then they would act themselves to stop it more than they are, it makes their message null and hard to believe, whether it is true or not. For instance if a doctor tells you you need to stop smoking but is a smoker themselves then it would make you think, well if smoking really is that bad then surely they would have stopped as well
I agree that having a credible, unassailable spokesperson makes persuasion easier.
That’s the entire trap the video is discussing - you need to separate the spokesperson from the underlying issue, or else you’ll likely not engage with discussion productively.
With Decaprio and Al Gore, their behaviour might make their message harder to swallow, but it doesn’t change the fact climate change is still an issue.
It’s a matter of spin too, I saw another comment which framed Al Gore’s large carbon footprint as demonstrative to the fact that even with such a passion for environmental issues, it’s still hard to reduce your individual carbon footprint. You might think that’s a load of rubbish. But the point is that it’s besides the point, engage with the issue instead of the messenger, it might be hard sometimes, but we should push past it for more productive conversation :)
Daniel yeah I agree, it is about seeing what the actual issue is. It does make it harder to take on board what the people preaching that message are saying if they appear to contradict themselves though.
This, a million times this!
I think Lou is taking a stab at his bosses at CNN on this one... nice shots lou.
There's an advantage to being on no one's radar.
Beme is my new flav
Was that Glados at the end?
I agree that hypocrisy does not contribute to the discussion when discussing substantive issues. The way it can come into play, usefully I would argue, is during elections. If someone trying to get elected says something and their actions belie their stance on an issue, you cannot be assured that they're going to follow through on what they're saying.
Take Hillary Clinton talking about income inequality, raising minimum wage, closing tax loopholes, etc. How does that square with taking money for speaking engagements or campaign donations from large financial organizations? Which aspect of her are we to believe? Friend to the middle class or to financial institutions?
In an election, you're trying to sell yourself. If you're a hypocrite, you make it a lot harder.
I agree - when you're evaluating someone's character and whether or not they should be entrusted with an elected office, credibility plays an important role.
Great video.
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great vid g!
Good work
Well done
Great talk ....Lou!!!!!!
I was trying to find the video he mentioned about the Nobel prize but there's no link anywhere...
This was when we were still trying to figure out the tone and style of the show:
ua-cam.com/video/87Wi76Uo29E/v-deo.html
Louis Foglia
You guys are my favorite news next work! I watched all your videos and I love how you attack a topic from both sides instead of circle jerking one side. And you guys know how to be funny but serious as well when its important. keep up the amazing work :D
Your channel will go places, keep giving factual information like this and thanks.
Should we dismiss the message for the messenger? Sometimes. There are not absolutes, but within this specific example of climate change keep the message and stop propping up these hypocritical messengers. Liars selling the truth muddies the water period
God damn I'm really liking the stories you guys cover, even if they're short videos I think they're very well produced
Lou. I appreciate the effort you make with each video. Thank you
Argumentative diversions.
These videos are brilliant. Keep it up BEME bros.
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New to your channel. Impressed so far 👍
I just got here, I'll need to watch all your videos now
I really enjoyed this episode and hope you guys continue to put out more content relating to the actual real issues at hand in our partisan political landscape
thanks Lou
Lou, I think you're starting to get it. Keep it up.
Thank your for this quality work!
Watch all videos, Best one so far !
Who made the sound balance?
Awesome Video Beme Team and Lou.
wow, that's deep
Good show Lou! Well done
thank you
imma go live my lyfe
lou
Americans....
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People.....
Lou & Beme - getting better with every single video. W/this one in particular.
You’re a very prudent, wise young man, Lou.
Wow. This is the first video from beme that I could show someone to the left, right, and middle, and get a positive reaction from
Only because none of them sees their own hypocricy
One word: Strawman.
Beme news just keeps getting better and better
Who agrees with me ?
first
I think the core message of this video is important, but its frustrating how liberal leaning BEME still is.