First Look! : The NEW Skullcandy Indy ANC True Wireless

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  • @ELJefeReviews
    @ELJefeReviews 3 роки тому +162

    ANC is a good feature to have. That sound quality is what they need to focus on for the 3rd generation of their TWS offerings. I appreciate the first look bro!

  • @bassmaker4real197
    @bassmaker4real197 3 роки тому +245

    I bought a pair of Skullcandy Indy Evos yesterday and I love them they sound awesome deep bass and clear highs I use them all the time

    • @logancook1856
      @logancook1856 3 роки тому +22

      just wait till they stop
      working

    • @frankiesflower2638
      @frankiesflower2638 3 роки тому +12

      yeah, i owned the indy and indy evos, the indys dsestroy in every factor the indy evos. evos cannot handle rock, and blows. indys though, good for everything. oh, and my right indy evo stopped working.

    • @bassmaker4real197
      @bassmaker4real197 3 роки тому +8

      @@frankiesflower2638 I had to return them they started cutting in and out on me

    • @deformeddoge4453
      @deformeddoge4453 3 роки тому +6

      @@bassmaker4real197 mine were acting up as well I exchanged them now they work perfectly fine haven't found any problems so far

    • @radkanoa7369
      @radkanoa7369 3 роки тому +7

      @@frankiesflower2638 ive had my indy evos for about 7 months now and they still work great, for rock and rap mostly, maybe some are luckier than others

  • @haunterofdarkness7585
    @haunterofdarkness7585 3 роки тому +67

    I agree, the personal sound EQ really pulls out the treble and mids while tightening up the bass to my liking. For $130 it’s a hard sell but I got them for $100 at walmart and I think that’s the perfect price for them

    • @yungpap4947
      @yungpap4947 3 роки тому +4

      I think they’re just as good as AirPods and those are a lot more expensive depending the model

    • @ouisi7
      @ouisi7 3 роки тому +1

      Costco has them for $90 every day, but they have been on sale for $60 more than a few times. It's a pretty easy sell at $60

    • @RedBedHead
      @RedBedHead 2 роки тому +2

      @James Nnabuihe $25 now

    • @haydenschwartz6995
      @haydenschwartz6995 Рік тому

      They're 60$ now on Amazon

  • @motaz1234z
    @motaz1234z 3 роки тому +22

    I really love that you started uploading in 4k !!

  • @joshuagarner6981
    @joshuagarner6981 3 роки тому +27

    I just bought these for work. The noise canceling works AMAZINGLY well. I can actually hear myself think instead of thousands of servers and air handlers on the data center. I charge my case on a wireless charger for 3 hours a day and drop my pods in the case at lunch. My battery lasts all day.
    The thing that blew me away the most was the first time I plugged these into my ears in my truck. My 20-year-old diesel truck went from something I had to talk over to no more than a brand new truck that whispers down the highway. Maybe I’m ignorant to the Sony quality but to me these are fantastic.
    I bought at Walmart for $100

  • @nit0134
    @nit0134 3 роки тому +14

    Woah I didn't know these came out. Excited to watch this!

  • @Skyl8neExtracts08
    @Skyl8neExtracts08 3 роки тому +23

    Thank you so much Mate, i was wondering if i should pick these up for black Friday. Love your videos Bro take care and have a good one

  • @josepierosebastiancallapol2695
    @josepierosebastiancallapol2695 3 роки тому +3

    Those one are the Indy that everyone was waiting for! Thanks for the review:)

  • @rickadoo22
    @rickadoo22 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome video! Great info. Love your channel. Have you ever tried the Outdoor tech Mantas? I'm curious about these but can't find any info on them.

  • @jackjack3874
    @jackjack3874 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the review!!!

  • @Ash-bv5hc
    @Ash-bv5hc 3 роки тому +5

    Watching this video with my last year's indy😁i guess it's time to upgrade

  • @allsortsofstones
    @allsortsofstones 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the detailed review. Enjoyed it very much.

  • @skeleton316
    @skeleton316 3 роки тому +5

    Nice was wondering when they where going to make a anc wireless earphones !!!!

  • @kaineserna9135
    @kaineserna9135 Рік тому

    You helped so much with the exact tones and mids that I try to get in my headphones.. Im ultra deaf in certain tones and this review made me decide I want some Indie's.. Thank you!

  • @PhearaXT
    @PhearaXT 3 роки тому +3

    I bought this Skullcandy Indy ANC from Costco yesterday and I love it. When I listen some music, for some unknown reasons, I experience some drop outs for a little bit and it went back on. I thought maybe because of Bluetooth disconnection, notifications, or something 🤔. I’m not sure why. Also, another issue I’ve found is leds on charging case are very dim every time I go outside.

    • @alejandrosolercastro5198
      @alejandrosolercastro5198 2 роки тому

      Mines are doing the same and I just bought them so I think I will chnge them and Get the Marshalls Motiv ACN

  • @benjaminlee3669
    @benjaminlee3669 3 роки тому

    Pretty informative review ! I quite like the features of this mediatek powered TWS - shows promise of a decent audio experience.

  • @StudiosUntold
    @StudiosUntold 3 роки тому +9

    Just got these, I found that they don’t need the stability gel on the top for my ears. The fit is solid, even staying in my ear with no insert while running. For the same price as normal Airpod 2s, these crush every single mark for fully wireless earbuds

  • @SD-xh4rh
    @SD-xh4rh 3 роки тому +1

    Have a pair. Main use is for phone calls. One person I yak with says the treble sounds overdriven. Otherwise they are great. Yes the individualized setup is amazing.

  • @kindlyhelpmereach10ksubscr87
    @kindlyhelpmereach10ksubscr87 3 роки тому +4

    What do you guys think if i ordered the beats flex, since am a huge fan of wired nowadays after loosing a left pair of levitek tevi buds.....I need your opinion guys...
    Thank you all...

  • @ECross.
    @ECross. 3 роки тому +1

    Are there any earbuds that if you were on the phone it would blocker the caller from hearing your loud background noise? I need that

  • @NeoAF10
    @NeoAF10 2 роки тому

    Nice review, just one question: how do you capture the audio from the earphones?

  • @iwishihadgoodinternet7766
    @iwishihadgoodinternet7766 3 роки тому +1

    what tws would you recommend that has the best mic? other than airpods because they're too expensive 😅

  • @JinxX1337X
    @JinxX1337X 3 роки тому +5

    I know they're virtually the same but the Skullcandy indy XT ANC is a Walmart exclusive version I believe and priced at $99

    • @TheDanteSkyheart
      @TheDanteSkyheart 3 роки тому

      I might be wrong but I think the $99.99 are the indy fuel with no anc at least that's the ones they have on their skullcandy site.

  • @Cake36
    @Cake36 3 роки тому

    I have these in rn, love them!

  • @a7medgt922
    @a7medgt922 3 роки тому

    Hello dear, how do you see the sound? Is it comfortable for the ear and does it have a USB cable in the box?

  • @caboose6411
    @caboose6411 Рік тому +1

    Just got these today. Had some old earbuds and they were both making static noises (they weren’t skull candy) so far I love them and they are pretty comfortable. Never bought earbuds with stems before but I don’t hate it. Now I just need to get my crushers fixed

  • @BenjiLo-tz4xq
    @BenjiLo-tz4xq 3 роки тому

    I dont know whether to get the airpod pros. The main thing conflicting me is the h1 chip in the airpod pros, which automatically connects me to my phone. How is the bluetooth connectivity for these ones? I had a cheaper pair of Aukeys, and they kept disconnecting randomly and were never great. Thanks!

  • @donnamanitu8673
    @donnamanitu8673 3 роки тому +10

    Thank you for the review. Costco just came out with their April sale catalog and they are offering them for $69.99. I just love my Raycon wireless earbuds but really want a pair that is noise cancelling. Raycon offers a pair but they have been sold out for weeks.

    • @tamizharasanbe
      @tamizharasanbe 3 роки тому +1

      Yea got them yesterday and they are amazing

    • @forrestley4530
      @forrestley4530 3 роки тому

      The ones that have noise canceling are going for 100 the 70 dollar pair doesn’t feature noise canceling, just so you know

    • @BriasRocks
      @BriasRocks 2 роки тому

      @@forrestley4530 not true

  • @squaresmine
    @squaresmine 3 роки тому

    Ty for this video! One of the best I have ever saw on any product!

  • @derrickcrocker4265
    @derrickcrocker4265 3 роки тому

    Nice, is it worth the upgrade from the indy evo even with the ANC...cuz they were $40 recently. And how are they compared to the FIIL T1pro?

  • @trungnguyen-xx2et
    @trungnguyen-xx2et 10 місяців тому +6

    To my ears these 3rd Gen Air pods are more comfortable compared to the newer Pro version with the soft gel tips. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxgl8SzyQoymMu-S3V55Dskg5QJ8xr1yCR That said, compared to the 3rd Gen, I notice these do not stay planted in the ear as well. One design issue I think, is you squeeze the stem and click it twice to advance your songs. On 3rd gen you tap the large speaker. The difference is by grabbing the stem each time, you tend to loosen the bud fit in your ear. Not always, but the bud falls out a few times while running. The old tap to change never had that problem for me. I would not have changed that tap function. That said, the newer Pro version sticks in the ear, almost airtight if you want that. I do not like that Airtight fit. So that's why I'd stay with this version as the best trade off of comfort, use, and overall feel.

  • @lite4698
    @lite4698 2 роки тому

    Does this has a problem with changing to ANC when it is on-personal sound mode? Specially with right bud? Or it is only with mine?

  • @danz1997
    @danz1997 3 роки тому

    Would you choose them over the sounpeats t2 or the earfun free pro?

  • @seanwoodard620
    @seanwoodard620 3 роки тому

    i like these. still gotta experiment with app EQ modes

  • @1yaya11
    @1yaya11 3 роки тому +15

    I have been using the Indy Fuel for several months and honestly the value you get from Skullcandy is hard to beat. They arent perfect, but as an overall package spot on. Wireless charging, fast charging, good mics, good passive isolation, easy touch controls, app support, insane battery life, wing tips (thank the maker!) , tile integration, awesome warranty.. I paid $85 for all that and Ive seen some crazy deals recently on their lineup.
    things to improve: Sound quality can use some tuning, agreed. That seems to be a trend in these new Indys.
    That being said I dont own the ANC version, just commenting on the Indy Fuel

    • @seemslegit2412
      @seemslegit2412 2 роки тому

      I got an ebay refurbished pair of fuels for $20. 👌🏾

    • @BowlHeadRalts
      @BowlHeadRalts 2 роки тому

      @@seemslegit2412 i just bought the indy anc fuel for $21 with pres day coupon on ebay. Can’t wait to try them out! I am going to see if these win over my sony wf-c500 earbuds.

    • @seemslegit2412
      @seemslegit2412 2 роки тому

      @@BowlHeadRalts the mic is trash on mine.

  • @trebor987654321
    @trebor987654321 3 роки тому

    Hi, what's the name of the App for the EQ to download from the APP store? Thanks

  • @davidzavala337
    @davidzavala337 3 роки тому

    How to this compare to the Anker Soundcore Liberty Air 2 ($70)? Or the regular indy fuel($73)?

  • @jesserlund1339
    @jesserlund1339 3 роки тому

    Are the Indy ANC with their 12mm drivers loader than the Evo 6mm drivers?

  • @williammccutcheon3004
    @williammccutcheon3004 2 роки тому

    What is the best earbuds in your opinion for bass?

  • @agentwisconsin6717
    @agentwisconsin6717 2 роки тому

    I have a pair of these and one ear buds stopped working and I really liked them but don’t know if I should get another one

  • @jhabiruddin1080
    @jhabiruddin1080 3 роки тому

    Thanks man I was wondering if I should get these you earned yourself a sub

  • @rishabhgupta2982
    @rishabhgupta2982 3 роки тому

    Happy Thanksgiving ❤️

  • @Cesar-vx3so
    @Cesar-vx3so 3 роки тому +6

    You should try the soundcore life q10

  • @Black-rw4og
    @Black-rw4og 2 роки тому

    They are great! If i had to nitpick something i am not a big fan of the touch sensor thing, it's just a little annoying for when you try to fit it in your ear and it just unpauses a video or a song. (they also hurt my ear after a couple hours but that isn't really their fault)

  • @oliversmith7354
    @oliversmith7354 3 роки тому +12

    The ANC feature is so dope! I'm loving the audio. Can't believe this is another mediatek powered device!

  • @ajeeshantony5831
    @ajeeshantony5831 2 роки тому

    Sir can you please suggest which one is better skullcandy indy anc or earfun air pro 2

  • @ericyoung3183
    @ericyoung3183 3 роки тому +2

    These seem like a better option that even apple airpods. The mediatek chip makes everything function so smoothly.

  • @Kibblimang
    @Kibblimang 3 роки тому

    Thank you 👌🏾❤️

  • @lightyagami1425
    @lightyagami1425 3 роки тому +1

    It would be great if you review "Cooler Master MH650 Wired
    Over-Ear Gaming Headset" and list its pros and cons. I really liked its
    slick design, mic quality and sound clarity. I find this headset very
    underrated and it needs to get some attention.

  • @eshammohammed1790
    @eshammohammed1790 3 роки тому

    Should I get the Liberty Air 1 or Skullcandy Indy Evo?

  • @williammccutcheon3004
    @williammccutcheon3004 2 роки тому

    Are they good for bass music or is the bass bad in that kind of earbuds? If not what would you recommend?

  • @lucasbrown7338
    @lucasbrown7338 3 роки тому +7

    The specs are great. Mediatek chip along with the ANC feature are good additions. A good option over the Airpods Pro imo

    • @luckyshoto621
      @luckyshoto621 2 роки тому

      the microphone on it is terrible tho although the quality is something to really Admire

    • @_Chad_ThunderCock
      @_Chad_ThunderCock Рік тому

      Sounch quality is cheeks on Skullcandy tho

  • @danieltiger5668
    @danieltiger5668 Рік тому

    I would like it to save my hearing profile so I can keep it on ambient mode because I mainly use them at work but I have to either go into the app and set it or do it by touch control

  • @eshammohammed1790
    @eshammohammed1790 3 роки тому +1

    Is it worth it for buying the Indy Evo? If its not, can you suggest any other alternatives?

  • @raghidrazzaq1474
    @raghidrazzaq1474 Рік тому

    Where were the sound samples from?

  • @brandonholmin5247
    @brandonholmin5247 2 роки тому +1

    I ordered a pair of these from eBay for a steal and I really enjoy the earbuds. We are a Skullcandy household my dad and I each have a pair of the hesh 2 wireless and my mom has a pair of the crusher wireless so I am a big fan of Skullcandy because they are affordable and really built well.

  • @ericinfante1885
    @ericinfante1885 2 роки тому

    I see these and the indy fuel anc both for 130 with the same specs on their website so I am clueless on which is better or what difference is there at all?

  • @RoZZameSS
    @RoZZameSS 3 роки тому

    Do they also hiss like the Crusher ANC did?

  • @glee086able
    @glee086able 2 роки тому

    Does the Indy XT work with the skullcandy app?

  • @adity17
    @adity17 3 роки тому +5

    How long do u take to shoot+ edit + upload a video. Seems a full days work?

    • @OfficialGamesky
      @OfficialGamesky  3 роки тому +9

      It takes a full day. I always start around 8am and will generally work until around 4pm (sometimes I will shoot footage prior to the day of editing and putting it all together)

  • @harrisonkirkpatrick9507
    @harrisonkirkpatrick9507 3 роки тому +1

    Can I ask why just about no one acknowledges the Method ANC? There are barely any videos of reviews on them?

  • @jacobmcmullen5348
    @jacobmcmullen5348 3 роки тому +1

    I cant get both of the buds to connect to my phone. Both work fine but they will only work individually. Anybody know of any sort of solution?

    • @rodneyarceneaux116
      @rodneyarceneaux116 3 роки тому

      It’s pretty annoying , but you have to keep putting them in the case and taking them out until they pair to each other first .which will be indicated by them both flashing blue then one will flash red/blue. It’s an annoying pairing process when it doesn’t work right lol

  • @Jake-mg8rk
    @Jake-mg8rk Рік тому +1

    I have a pair I really like them most don't stay in my ear but these are solid. Very good bass and range. U do need to do the personal sound to make them sound good. However after 6 months there are started to glitch a little bit. Sometimes one bud won't play, sometimes static. But every time it's glitches I drop it into the case and pull it out and problem is gone. So far

    • @howareyouhi
      @howareyouhi Рік тому

      Cool,but just 6 months and than have problem is quite soon.

  • @sunshine_9705
    @sunshine_9705 Рік тому

    WOW the mics are really good

  • @devinyasas
    @devinyasas 3 роки тому

    Hi, I really like the design also I really don't need ANC . I'm kind of an audiophile. What should I get ? this or Liberty 2 pro ?

  • @06000514
    @06000514 3 роки тому +4

    Love 💕 the shirt.

  • @JD-co4hx
    @JD-co4hx 2 роки тому

    How do these compare to the Soundcore P3?

  • @Andros5634
    @Andros5634 Рік тому +4

    Just got these for 1,159 MXN (about 60 USD) and I think they're so worth it! They are a nice alternative when my airpods die on me or on the gym. And for that price I couldn't resist, even bought one pair on behalf of my cousin.

    • @AJ_GRANADILL0
      @AJ_GRANADILL0 Рік тому +1

      Me dices que tal te parecen esos audífonos para comprarmelos porfis y la cancelación de ruido es buena no te ha dado problemas?

  • @IntenseYubNub
    @IntenseYubNub Рік тому

    Picked these up recently as a backup to my Galaxy Buds 2 Pro. Obviously nowhere near the same level but they were a great deal as backup earbuds.

  • @jeromehiggins3053
    @jeromehiggins3053 2 роки тому

    Only one of my earphones play at times how do I fix that

  • @notboshy0644
    @notboshy0644 3 роки тому

    Bought these a while ago and I’m having a problem i can’t seem to find any info on.
    So during the first month they worked perfectly and didn’t have a problem until today, when I was using them the right bud suddenly stopped streaming audio, so I assumed it might’ve been low on battery so I put it on the case for a while and took it back out, but the problem was still there, and every time I tap or move the right bud it just stops playing audio, idk what to do but I believe I’m gonna have to return them.
    I mainly used solo mode a lot for school and exclusively the right one, I believe this might’ve had something to do with the problem

    • @zenitsu3391
      @zenitsu3391 3 роки тому

      I have them for about 3 weeks they sometime have a lot of lag. When i have my phone on my pocket it get worse
      Sometimes when im using both hear buds, one bud stop working for a couple of seconds

  • @garretthoggan1479
    @garretthoggan1479 3 роки тому

    I am having trouble pairing them together they both work separately but i can't have em both at the same time I've tried the pairing option but no good I anyone been thro this please let me know thanks

  • @happylaura0
    @happylaura0 3 роки тому +1

    This ones or Earfun air Pro.?

  • @lauriemacquanan2141
    @lauriemacquanan2141 2 роки тому

    Skull candy website has a video for the control features. Thank you for your video!!

  • @Minecraftgalaxy12345
    @Minecraftgalaxy12345 3 роки тому +1

    What makes XT Skullcandy products different than the regular ones, besides the fact that they’re only sold in Walmart?

    • @Mike-et8op
      @Mike-et8op 3 роки тому +2

      Nothing at all same specs

  • @cesargiles5431
    @cesargiles5431 Рік тому

    What's the difference between the anc fuel and anc xt?

  • @3dmouse210
    @3dmouse210 2 роки тому

    Idk what just happened but my left earbud just stopped working and the light wasn't turning on when I put it in the case pressing the side to turn it on/off wasn't working but when I went to the app it connected. I absolutely love these earbuds so it really scared me. Don't want to have to buy them again or go thru the annoying process of customer service to get new ones.

  • @mr.insomniacme7174
    @mr.insomniacme7174 3 роки тому

    Is anyone else experiencing issue with theirs? Such as a click on the right earphone everytime you turn your head? If so, does anyone know who to stop it? Also they give a headache as well...

  • @sureshotmedia
    @sureshotmedia 3 роки тому +1

    Since you have reviewed both earbuds, how would you rate the Skullcandy Indy ANC vs Earfun Free Pro ANC earbuds? I already own the Earfun Free Pros but want to know if the clarity (during phone calls) of the Skullcandy Indy are superior - which picks up more background crowd noise during a call? Which earbud is more comfortable for longer usage and which is better for a solid fit during a workout? Thanks in advance for the feedback.

    • @OfficialGamesky
      @OfficialGamesky  3 роки тому +1

      I would pick the EarFun in each of these categories

  • @ghosttha_kidd603
    @ghosttha_kidd603 3 роки тому

    How long do they last

  • @hoesay88
    @hoesay88 2 роки тому

    I just bought some refurbished ones on Amazon for $25 to use at night to watch random UA-cam videos. I got some crusher evo's and the bass is awesome af on them. Skullcandy for the win!

  • @MegaBear23
    @MegaBear23 6 місяців тому

    Do these headphones read your text me like the airpods and beats?

  • @DS_92
    @DS_92 3 роки тому

    im supposed to listen to "sound samples" through my gaming headsets and decide if the Indy ANC's sound good? I don't get it

  • @walter2695
    @walter2695 Рік тому +1

    Just ordered these from amazon for 49 bucks. totally worth the risk at that price now. Glad to know these work with the tile app since i have a few of their products and want to keep an eye out for these since i dont want to lose them. Thanks for the review!

    • @howareyouhi
      @howareyouhi Рік тому

      Bruh 49 bucks,u sure those a real ?

    • @walter2695
      @walter2695 Рік тому

      @@howareyouhi Yup. these price dropped pretty good.

  • @jeffhale1189
    @jeffhale1189 3 роки тому

    👀 I appreciate your critical honesty. Blessings on your day.

  • @HatelessheartTTV
    @HatelessheartTTV Рік тому

    What about the skull candy app? You said that The app saved the earbuds?

  • @MrCOLBSTAH
    @MrCOLBSTAH 2 роки тому +1

    Does anybody know the difference between the Indy XT ANC? And Indy ANC?
    One is 80 the other is 130...

    • @hellsing0999999999
      @hellsing0999999999 2 роки тому

      Check Ebay, they are going for 25$
      The XT is the Walmart model, the other is the regular model.

  • @Doggmatic_
    @Doggmatic_ 2 роки тому

    Do they have low latency in gaming on a ps4?......with an adapter.

  • @antiherogrindviolence
    @antiherogrindviolence 3 роки тому +1

    Hey mate can you review the Method ANC ?

    • @ExorcistOfNevermore
      @ExorcistOfNevermore 3 роки тому +1

      They’re good for what they are, the magnetic bit is a good touch. I mainly keep them over these truly wireless ones because I only keep one earbud in and alternate pretty often so that’s the biggest selling point for me. The sound quality is actually very good, as expected from skullcandy, the bass is very good. The anc is decent but not all that fantastic. Another gripe is the battery life, which is 6 hours. It does have quick charge so 5 mins will give you two hours but it is still a bit annoying.

  • @ajirox90
    @ajirox90 3 роки тому

    Are these tws waterproof?

  • @steved2927
    @steved2927 3 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @daddykarlmarx6183
    @daddykarlmarx6183 Рік тому +1

    Unfortunately my indy evos got chewed by a dog, but you're able to get the anc
    version for only 32 dollars renewed on eBay so I'm happy to make the upgrade at least

  • @KioPadilla
    @KioPadilla 2 роки тому

    Compared to Sabbat E12 Ultra, which is the best bang for the buck?

  • @ShadowBotboi
    @ShadowBotboi 2 роки тому

    Is the bass the same as any other earbud???? This is all I really want to know.

  • @bill.bo66
    @bill.bo66 2 роки тому

    I am having problems with my indy wireless Bluetooth head bugs the left will not work with the right when I take the right one and put away the left one shuts off I cannot keep the left one on when the right one is in his case I love my earbuds please help me William

  • @mlg1783
    @mlg1783 2 роки тому

    I've had these for a while. My only complaint is when im.at the gym. It has connective issues when I'm there among other blue tooth signals going on. It sounds like I'm listen to a scratched up cd. I hate it.

  • @fjdkfdfjdf33
    @fjdkfdfjdf33 3 роки тому +1

    Oh, you are from Georgia. I've never been to Tbilisi

  • @smswapon4902
    @smswapon4902 3 роки тому

    tronsmart spunky beat vs kz z1 which is better for sound, bass, every aspect ☺☺☺😊😊😊

  • @Shotives_LA
    @Shotives_LA Рік тому

    I love these for gaming. They have a delay and very once and a while

  • @bigload6
    @bigload6 3 роки тому +1

    Had the ones without the anc and sadly they went through the wash and died :( this definitely doesn't make it seem like the anc are worth it