EDUCATION | Part 1 | Reading Marx's “Capital” with David Harvey

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  • Visit www.tpf.link to follow along via our Podcast. A close reading of the text of Volume I of Marx’s Capital with Professor David Harvey. - askdavidharvey@peoplesforum.org -
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  • @Sherjan0077
    @Sherjan0077 5 років тому +103

    Solidarity from Afghanistan. More power to IMT , long live international workers democracy. Down with nationalism, imperialism and religious extremism......

  • @jaredrevis4594
    @jaredrevis4594 Рік тому +46

    I pause the video for a while to read the relevant section again, forget what was happening in the video, and unpause to hear "we live in a society." Brilliant timing on my part

  • @imagine07018
    @imagine07018 5 років тому +240

    The beginning of the video at first led me to believe that it was literally about watching Harvey read Capital.

  • @Fawnroseisabelle
    @Fawnroseisabelle 3 роки тому +236

    This man was my professor during my PhD - He's brilliant and was the best lecturer I ever experienced.

    • @smoke1830
      @smoke1830 Рік тому +1

      Just remember every time Marx has been tried it failed.

    • @profe3330
      @profe3330 Рік тому +60

      @@smoke1830 Please, PLEASE don't keep repeating this piece of idiocy. Marx's ideas have been hugely influential in economies all over the world, in cultural studies and in all the arts. I can't think of theoretical body of work that's been more important in forming modern consciousness.
      To say "Marx has been tried" - whatever that even means! - just proves that you're completely ignorant of the subject, and are trying to score some kind of ideological point with other know-nothings.

    • @smoke1830
      @smoke1830 Рік тому

      @@profe3330 Name a country where Marx was tried and it is a success? Just name it?

    • @smoke1830
      @smoke1830 Рік тому

      @@profe3330 Idiot is a key word associated with ancient Greece, or Alexander the Great, do you know what it means.

    • @profe3330
      @profe3330 Рік тому

      @@smoke1830 Pretty much EVERY country has been influenced by Marx and Marxism in one form or another.
      Look it up. I dare ya.

  • @skapowski
    @skapowski 5 років тому +199

    Lecture starts at 11:45

    • @benjaminblackwell3869
      @benjaminblackwell3869 5 років тому +5

      Thank you :)

    • @kitlangton
      @kitlangton 4 роки тому +75

      A guy scratches his nose at 1:00:46

    • @patrickholt2270
      @patrickholt2270 4 роки тому +7

      Thank you.

    • @Danskadreng
      @Danskadreng 4 роки тому +21

      @@kitlangton Thank you, saved me a lot of time

    • @TheWoozly
      @TheWoozly 3 роки тому +4

      Kit Langton thank you so much for keeping us updated - I'd been looking for this

  • @gloverelaxis
    @gloverelaxis 5 років тому +288

    very grateful to everyone except the sound technician for this fantastic video

    • @MRJJJarhead
      @MRJJJarhead 5 років тому +45

      to the gulag!

    • @chanm01
      @chanm01 5 років тому +48

      "the revolution will not be televised" etc. etc. 😂

    • @OH-pc5jx
      @OH-pc5jx 4 роки тому +15

      Being a sound technician can be hard 😔 besides, the real screw up here is the editor not cutting the first ten minutes

    • @Lexaire
      @Lexaire 3 роки тому +4

      Nice mic, mic stand, good position. And completely wrecked by having terrible processing.

    • @neilbradley9035
      @neilbradley9035 3 роки тому +5

      Just needs a high-pass filter.

  • @christophersmith2581
    @christophersmith2581 4 роки тому +141

    I remember reading all 3 volumes of Capital in grad school and using Harvey's videos. They helped alot and gave me greater appreciation for Marx.

    • @user-kt3uv7nf7i
      @user-kt3uv7nf7i 4 роки тому +1

      What were you using them for?

    • @alexhawksteel6
      @alexhawksteel6 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-kt3uv7nf7i I'm doing the same and it helps me understand the text more by listening to Davids lectures.

    • @THEMAX00000
      @THEMAX00000 Рік тому +1

      What in the world is wrong with you

    • @rodrigocortesmora18
      @rodrigocortesmora18 Рік тому +5

      I ve started reading volume one, is a great experience

  • @agstinacueva1673
    @agstinacueva1673 3 роки тому +72

    Thank you for allowing us to access information for free! Lets keep fighting for education

  • @bills.prestonesq.5905
    @bills.prestonesq.5905 2 роки тому +53

    Best to read it as a student before your life necessitates reading it.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel Рік тому

      True. In order to resist Marxist nonsense, it's best to be familiar with this stupidity.

  • @nova-scotiacommunist3227
    @nova-scotiacommunist3227 2 роки тому +34

    I am in the process of reading Capital It is a tough read at times but very humourous and others are very enjoyable read plus educational

    • @profe3330
      @profe3330 Рік тому +6

      Yes! My students are always amazed that Marx is actually FUNNY. I love that! But yes: it's hard to read the Big Books on your own. When I was in grad school, we formed a Capital reading group, and that really helped.

  • @ryanchicago6028
    @ryanchicago6028 Рік тому +5

    Thanks Professor Harvey for this lecture:
    "Rise, like lions after slumber
    In unvanquishable number!
    Shake your chains to earth, like dew
    Which in sleep had fallen on you:
    Ye are many-they are few!"

  • @mattickista
    @mattickista 3 роки тому +16

    1:04:00 HE SAID IT

  • @user-kt3uv7nf7i
    @user-kt3uv7nf7i 4 роки тому +35

    Chapter one begins at 1:01:27

    • @maxine3978
      @maxine3978 3 роки тому +2

      Lmao 1 hour of intro

    • @user-kt3uv7nf7i
      @user-kt3uv7nf7i 3 роки тому +35

      Maxine 28Ve Only a true Marxist spends an hour on an introduction

    • @billybudd8225
      @billybudd8225 3 роки тому +19

      If you're going to skip the intro, you might as well skip the whole lecture series and just read the book, you're missing the point

    • @agstinacueva1673
      @agstinacueva1673 3 роки тому +5

      @@maxine3978 the intro is actually very interesting

    • @wilsonsilva2918
      @wilsonsilva2918 Рік тому

      @@billybudd8225 Not really, it is a very complicated book that requires a lot of political and economic knowledge to be properly dissected, which is good to have a specialist to help with that

  • @vennila988
    @vennila988 2 роки тому +3

    After reading the relevant chapter and listen to his lecture in audio form much fruitful to understand the the abstractions of Marx.whenever i repeatedly listen to the lecture new things crop up in mind.An excellent presentation.

  • @andreireinoso4691
    @andreireinoso4691 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for making these lectures widely accessible and helping the masses understand such an important text. I’ve always been too intimidated to read capital but these lectures make the text enjoyable and that much more enlightening.

  • @vphiameradisogaarwa
    @vphiameradisogaarwa 3 роки тому +5

    I have watched 4 hour lectures, and took notes on them! So Bring it on!

  • @kinghassy334
    @kinghassy334 Рік тому +6

    I love all the subtle context you add to the text, there's a lot of stuff that just goes over your head when reading the book

  • @inwithon
    @inwithon 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you last question guy! Harvey's response was hella interesting and clarifying.

  • @Biakoff
    @Biakoff Рік тому +11

    Вижу Девида Харви ставлю лайк! Пролетарии всез стран объединяйтесь! Hello from Russia!

  • @JustJanitor
    @JustJanitor 10 місяців тому +4

    I cannot thank you enough for making this available

  • @Matiberve
    @Matiberve 2 роки тому +4

    That was amazing, I'm excited to hear the rest.

  • @cancerousordo6314
    @cancerousordo6314 4 роки тому +19

    Wow another go at Capital. I had listened to the previous course religiously so I am happy to have another reading. I may have to break out the text and follow along

    • @ff-qf1th
      @ff-qf1th Рік тому +7

      you listened religiously? marx would be ashamed. listen _critically_

  • @czarquetzal8344
    @czarquetzal8344 9 місяців тому +3

    Marx is a challenging thinker, so becoming a scholar of his works is a serious business.

  • @Hermes1548
    @Hermes1548 4 роки тому +63

    I thought reading War and Peace was an achievement.
    Then I read Chateaubriand's Memories and thought so.
    Then I read Proust's Memories and thought so. But
    Nothing prepared me for Capital, Volume I, II, and III.
    Shakespeare is hard; Donne harder; Marx hardest.

  • @ayohilary7744
    @ayohilary7744 2 роки тому +6

    So thrilled that I stumbled on to this series!!

  •  3 роки тому +1

    42:58 volume 1 concentrates on money capital trhrough commodities and realization of value, 2.- circulations and 3.- distribution

  • @risin4949
    @risin4949 11 місяців тому

    A wonderful and much needed video.

  • @atashikokoni
    @atashikokoni 2 роки тому

    So glad I found this.

  • @josecarlosllerenarobles6129
    @josecarlosllerenarobles6129 5 років тому +41

    big up comrades! from Perú!

  • @almadelatierra5153
    @almadelatierra5153 3 роки тому +479

    GEN Z FOR MARX!!! ANYONE? ✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼✊🏻

    • @The_Revolutionist
      @The_Revolutionist 3 роки тому +20

      ✊✊✊

    • @annilator3000
      @annilator3000 3 роки тому +28

      GEN Z FOR MARX
      VIVE L'INTERNATIONALE!

    • @roseredflechette-vidya
      @roseredflechette-vidya 2 роки тому +47

      I'm a millennial who is very excited to see the havoc your generation wreaks. I thought I was extremist - you guys are on a whole other level though, and I mean that in the best way possible.
      Give 'em hell. Don't compromise. No half-measures. Hopefully the planet doesn't completely cook before you all can turn the tables.

    • @annilator3000
      @annilator3000 2 роки тому +10

      @@roseredflechette-vidya No there won't be any compromise.

    • @comradecaleb6903
      @comradecaleb6903 2 роки тому +3

      Hell yeah!✊🏻

  • @drsalmanshafiq3050
    @drsalmanshafiq3050 2 роки тому

    Thanks Prof. Harvey

  • @ryanchicago6028
    @ryanchicago6028 Рік тому +1

    Gotta do one more. Thought exercise:
    - The cost of Das Kapital as per the Borders price (~ $22.00 USD). Probably
    0.5 lbs by weight.
    - The cost of cheap 1-ply toilet paper in the Borders bathroom (~ $4.00 USD) Probably
    about 5 lbs by weight.
    If we all READ Das Kapital - or ANY book at least once a day for 30 minutes:
    - The cost of a typical book (~ $5.00) arguably because we "used to have that
    price of things"
    - The cost of cheap 1-ply toilet paper in a Borders bathroom (~ $3.00 USD) arguably
    because we feel that "it's big".
    The dialectic of value clearly favored those with the desire to have higher priced books.. AND lower priced toilet paper BOTH TIMES.
    Fight for books!!!

  • @isaac-qe1wu
    @isaac-qe1wu 3 роки тому +4

    Long forum is growing online with the youth, the idea of bite sized blahs blahs blahs it's not true. ♡ love this thank u!

  •  3 роки тому

    1:15:17 socially necesary labor times depends on productivity

  •  3 роки тому

    56:14 dialectical motion of value: idea production, comodity, circulation, distribution, money form= value. Thats what causes work...the processs

  •  3 роки тому

    1:39:00 Value is in contant change do to many things: productivity, technoogy, demand, etc...

  • @tonyfubu
    @tonyfubu 2 роки тому +2

    Take this advice from someone who attended the seminars: David Harvey, god bless him, simply rehashed what he has already published in his Companion to Marx books (so just go buy them). The only new information is in this video on his attempt to characterize the system Marx "discovered" as similar to that of a hydrological cycle. This analogy is especially apt since Wall Streeters think about money (movement) in terms of liquidity, at least for now.

  • @kennytheclown3859
    @kennytheclown3859 Рік тому +1

    Harvey does make Capital more accessible.

  • @sergiocarvajalgallego5388
    @sergiocarvajalgallego5388 2 роки тому

    1:01:40 is where he starts discussing Chapter 1.

  •  3 роки тому

    1:01:37 se da cuenta que todo comienza con una inmenza cantidad de mercancías.....ésa será su prioridad para estudiar el sistema del capital

  • @Loud_Thinker
    @Loud_Thinker 5 років тому +7

    I am not sure if anybody have asked this before but I was wondering if you have the audio only version of your readings from Capitol almost like an audiobook? Thank you!

    • @PeoplesForum
      @PeoplesForum  4 роки тому +4

      We have added most Episodes to our new Podcast. Please visit tpf.link to check it out.

    • @quiet_woods2568
      @quiet_woods2568 Рік тому

      @@PeoplesForum this link doesn't seem to work? has it moved or gone offline?

  • @mehtab.mp4
    @mehtab.mp4 2 роки тому

    bookmark / commodities section 1 lecture - 1:01:23

  • @Diamat1917
    @Diamat1917 3 роки тому +2

    1:11:50
    Społecznie niezbędnym czasem pracy jest czas pracy potrzebny do wytworzenia jakiejś wartości użytkowej w istniejących społecznie normalnych warunkach produkcji i przy społecznie przeciętnym stopniu umiejętności i intensywności pracy.

  • @Diamat1917
    @Diamat1917 3 роки тому

    46:00
    *Metoda prezentacji musi się różnić od metody badawczej*
    *Posłowie do wydnia drugiego*

  • @boniface95
    @boniface95 2 роки тому +3

    A question to the Hosts; what is the exact copy of Capital that David Harvey is reading from there? Thankyou

  • @brakonikolic1446
    @brakonikolic1446 2 роки тому

    Chapter 1: 1:01:13

  • @danieljones9463
    @danieljones9463 4 роки тому +3

    "What Is Socially Necessary?" Quite the question, this.

  • @nowfuture6792
    @nowfuture6792 5 років тому +16

    A genuine question, will you guys be able to provide an english subs for all these videos?

    • @PeoplesForum
      @PeoplesForum  5 років тому +15

      Thank you for bringing that up. For the moment, we recommend turning on the Auto-generated captions that UA-cam provides.

    • @alinepereira7014
      @alinepereira7014 4 роки тому +7

      There should be subs for every living language on earth

    • @ff-qf1th
      @ff-qf1th Рік тому

      @@PeoplesForum that's a terrible recommendation

  •  2 роки тому

    1:34:00 Suply and demand

  • @fernandocortes1187
    @fernandocortes1187 2 роки тому

    1:01:40 Comienza explicacion capitulo 1

  •  3 роки тому

    1:07:09 Use value versus exchange vaue

  • @Diamat1917
    @Diamat1917 3 роки тому

    39:40
    *Kapitał to pieniądze użyte w specyficzny sposób a mianowicie: to pieniądze użyte w celu pomnożenia pieniędzy. W kapitalizmie produkcyjnym pieniądze są użyte aby zakupić towary a w szczególności dwa rodzaje towarów: 1)siłę roboczą i 2)Środki produkcji. Te dwa rodzaje towarów są użyte w procesie produkcyjnym aby wytworzyć nowe towary: środki produkcji, towary luksusowe i towary kupowane za płacę roboczą*

  • @meganiswatchingthis
    @meganiswatchingthis 3 роки тому +8

    Love the irony of none of these videos being captioned :) I’ve luckily already had the opportunity to read Das Kapital in a class setting but it would be nice to learn more about it 🙃

    • @PadraigTomas
      @PadraigTomas 2 роки тому +3

      Presently there is a complete transcript in the description. On a phone this feature is more easily read.

  • @linyou5844
    @linyou5844 4 роки тому +40

    I'm a chinese translator,Could I upload my subtitle?

    • @PeoplesForum
      @PeoplesForum  4 роки тому +18

      Sure thing!

    • @linyou5844
      @linyou5844 4 роки тому +7

      @@PeoplesForum Yeah!I still need to complete it,after then I will unplod,thank you

    • @NewAgeNomad93
      @NewAgeNomad93 4 роки тому +13

      @@linyou5844 this is amazing! international workers' solidarity!

    • @linyou5844
      @linyou5844 4 роки тому +6

      @@NewAgeNomad93 YES!

    • @linyou5844
      @linyou5844 4 роки тому +12

      @@PeoplesForum I have uploaded Bilingual subtitles.for english version,there are some mistakes,because it from youtube auto submit

  • @kassokilleri2ff
    @kassokilleri2ff Рік тому +1

    Hi. Free market capitalist here trying to learn Marx. Maybe when I'm done ill come back and say what I learned.

  • @art0hearter
    @art0hearter 5 років тому +5

    thanks for posting! can you attend these sessions in person?

  • @revolutionarydefeatism
    @revolutionarydefeatism 3 роки тому +2

    Guys, is anybody interested in modification of the subtitles? If anyone can do 5 minutes it will be done in a week. Let’s do a collective work!

  • @inwithon
    @inwithon 4 роки тому +1

    a fun side dish for Harvey's class, or a great way for newbies to get an overall pic of Marx's ideas in layman's terms is this vid someone shared with me a few years back - ua-cam.com/video/qJuuZoF9WT8/v-deo.html
    Enjoy!

  •  2 роки тому

    1:01:04 Empieza Capítulo I

  • @rodrigocortesmora18
    @rodrigocortesmora18 Рік тому +1

    Great conference

  • @AtticusHatzis23483
    @AtticusHatzis23483 Рік тому

    great and exhaustive speech

  • @torresleite1
    @torresleite1 4 роки тому +1

    Congratulations

  • @terenceliao6595
    @terenceliao6595 2 роки тому

    which Version of capital should I choose?

  • @JAMWITCH
    @JAMWITCH 10 місяців тому

    I feel the pull to read Capital but I never got past chapter 2 so far before giving up

  • @musaali705
    @musaali705 3 роки тому +8

    Since there are 12 parts to this video series, can someone let me know what chapters each part covers? I assumed it would be each part of Capital Vol. 1 for each video, but there's only 8 parts in the book if I remember correctly. Would really appreciate some guidance here!
    Love from Pakistan :)

    • @MattWrafter
      @MattWrafter 3 роки тому +17

      Class 1, Introduction
      Class 2, Chapter 1
      Class 3, Chapters 2 & 3
      Class 4, Chapters 4, 5 & 6
      Class 5, Chapters 7, 8 & 9
      Class 6, Chapters 10 & 11
      Class 7: Chapters 12, 13 & 14
      Class 8: Chapter 15 (first part)
      Class 9: Chapter 15 (second part)
      Class 10: Chapters 23 & 24
      Class 11: Chapter 25
      Class 12: Chapters 26-33
      Happy studying comrade!

    • @musaali705
      @musaali705 3 роки тому +3

      @@MattWrafter thank you so so much!

  •  2 роки тому

    1:01:24 ¿Porqué comenzó con el análisis de la mercancía?

  • @vophie
    @vophie 3 роки тому

    39:00 capital graph

  •  3 роки тому

    22:03 Purpose according to Marx

  • @Politicalet
    @Politicalet 6 місяців тому

    Thanks sir!!

  • @10z20
    @10z20 4 роки тому +15

    Which one is preferable, the 2007 or the 2019 edition?

    • @revolutionarydefeatism
      @revolutionarydefeatism 4 роки тому +3

      10z20 That’s exactly my question: as far as I can say, the 2007 was better. The difference between terms “appear” and “is” in the first sentence of the Capital, in the 2007 version mentioned but in this new one, he just mentioned it when someone asked him a question.

    • @mirakimber6333
      @mirakimber6333 4 роки тому +5

      I've watched video 1-3 of the 2007 talks, and in my opinion this version is better because it gives more of a complete overview at the beginning, whereas the 2007 talks are more cumulative and it took me a while to understand where you are / what's the argument.

  • @neillholley5061
    @neillholley5061 9 місяців тому

    At 51:00, what is a "historically developed form"? Can anyone explain/expound on what that means, please?

  •  2 роки тому

    1:20:50 Productos que no tienen valor de mercancia o valor de uso por "otros". Ejemplos

  •  3 роки тому

    30:45 law of motion in the capitalist mode of production

  • @rodrigocortes1353
    @rodrigocortes1353 Рік тому +1

    Thanks

  •  2 роки тому

    39:15 Volume 1

  •  3 роки тому

    1:24:08 need a want, a need and desire for the commodity. If it isn´t it has no value.

  •  2 роки тому +1

    47:00 Marxs dialectical method

  • @truthaboveall7988
    @truthaboveall7988 Рік тому

    Thank u 🙏🏽

  • @DisVo51
    @DisVo51 Рік тому +3

    Посоветовал всем, Политэкономия, учебник. Островитянов, 1954 г. Есть в сети на русском и даже на ютубе в аудиоверсии. Он основан на трудах Маркса, Ленина, на опыте прошедшей революции, на опыте построения социалистической экономики.

  • @pltq-z341
    @pltq-z341 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this videos, so can you make the subtitres on French ?

  • @giovannidebiase6850
    @giovannidebiase6850 5 років тому +11

    The sound quality is awful. Compared to the original youtube lectures it is actually worse.,someobe needs to sort it out as it is making understanding the material more difficult.

  • @RJ-wb8jx
    @RJ-wb8jx 3 роки тому

    Is this in podcast mode?

  • @aliexpress.official
    @aliexpress.official 3 роки тому +4

    should I watch this series or the 2010 version that takes place in a classroom?

    • @alandoane9168
      @alandoane9168 3 роки тому

      Both.

    • @SocialCreditScore
      @SocialCreditScore 2 роки тому +1

      @@alandoane9168 do you think I should go through part 1 of the earlier one, then part one of this one and so on? Or should I completely finish the earlier course first, then come back and go through it again with this course?

    • @alandoane9168
      @alandoane9168 2 роки тому

      @@SocialCreditScore I would watch the newer one first and then go back and see if the earlier version has added value for you.

  • @fernandocortes1187
    @fernandocortes1187 2 роки тому

    20:00 El método de Marx : abstracción

  • @MRJJJarhead
    @MRJJJarhead 5 років тому +11

    has anyone got any idea why prof. Harvey doesn't teach vol.3?

    • @josephjohnson701
      @josephjohnson701 5 років тому +10

      Harvey dealt with Grundresse and Capital v. 3 in his lectures on Capital vol. 2.

    • @snoopy_poopy69
      @snoopy_poopy69 4 роки тому

      @Rabble Repository where does michael hudson talk about it?

    • @tliltictotolotlmacehualli5796
      @tliltictotolotlmacehualli5796 4 роки тому

      @TheCanMan Can Since 1990 Michael Hudson doesn't get what Marx lays out in the first chapter of Volume 1 of Capital, how the hell would he be an authority on Volume 3?

  • @MrDXRamirez
    @MrDXRamirez 2 роки тому +1

    A blackboard will help to lay out the theoretical concepts Dr. Harvey is speaking about.
    Visual aids are always a good learning tool.
    Verbally the lecture is fantastic and people should get a lot from this.

    • @geedebored5108
      @geedebored5108 2 роки тому

      He uses a blackboard in the other version of this class you can find on UA-cam!

    • @MrDXRamirez
      @MrDXRamirez 2 роки тому

      @@geedebored5108 Have you read Capital?

    • @geedebored5108
      @geedebored5108 2 роки тому

      @@MrDXRamirez yes, a couple times, why?

    • @MrDXRamirez
      @MrDXRamirez 2 роки тому

      @@geedebored5108 Am reading it now. I wish I can discuss it in a group. I found the first chapters completely understandable against a back drop of writer’s who say the first three chapters are the hardest, but if skipped, and not understood I think the rest of the book is not understandable, because the method he uses is the method used in all other sections of the book. Anyway. My question had no other motive.

    • @czarquetzal8344
      @czarquetzal8344 9 місяців тому

      Don't be so demanding. Are you paying for this lecture? Just be grateful.

  •  2 роки тому

    1:03:00 La mercancía es una abstracción de lo que se puede hacer con ella y del producto del trabajo y del proceso. De su utilidad!, Valor de uso, valor de intercambio, valor. Tiempo de trabajo socialmente necesario para realizar la mercancía. Dependiendo de la tecnología y la productividad del obrero o sus competencias y habilidades.

  • @vophie
    @vophie 3 роки тому

    1:11:30 socially necessary labor time

  • @Diamat1917
    @Diamat1917 3 роки тому

    33:00
    *Alienacja dwie fazy*

  • @jacobschwartz7785
    @jacobschwartz7785 3 роки тому +4

    So you're telling me...that Marx's writing had a lot of...Engles *Badum tiss*
    Alright, ill be quiet for the lecture now.

  • @laurencepeterson8466
    @laurencepeterson8466 5 років тому +7

    I've been tempted by a perhaps heretical reformulation of Marx's immortal introductory statement about capitalist production appearing as a great agglomeration of commodities; I'm tempted, and would love to hear Prof. Harvey's(whom I've met, read, and admired) response to this, especially regarding the environmental nightmare, to recast it as follows: now, capitalist production appears as a great accumulation of externalities (more, perhaps, than commodities). I would love to hear Prof.Harvey speak on this.

    • @colecando
      @colecando 5 років тому +1

      That's an interesting idea. What do you mean by externalities?

    • @laurencepeterson8466
      @laurencepeterson8466 5 років тому +7

      Thank you for the compliment. Externalities is economist-speak for costs of production that are not borne by the producer, but transferred to others, such as consumers or the general public. As such, these costs are not reflected in the price of the commodity offered by the producer. The classic example is pollution: the producer creates the mess and dumps it in the river, or emits it in the air, and the damage will cost the local population in medical bills (or even funerals), and the commodity sold by the producer would cost much more if the costs of cleaning up the pollution were included in the price of the commodity. There are positive externalities, too: being able to watch a sporting event for free if your apartment contains a balcony that overlooks the stadium, for example. So I was saying that, especially given the unbelievable dependence on fossil fuel extraction of virtually all production over several generations, the accumulated and exponential expansion of externalities in this regard alone might overwhelm all the other cost dynamics in the pricing of just about all important commodities and services. But I think I was being too glib here: the commodity, for Marx, as Prof. Harvey would surely insist, is the locus of the central contradictions of capitalist production in a way that, without much reflection, the generation of externalities is not. So I'm not so sure this line of thought is going to be as helpful as I did on the whim that inspired my comment.

    • @MarvinRoman
      @MarvinRoman 2 роки тому

      What about “capitalism production appears as a great accumulation of commodities that cast shadows of externalities that are inescapable.”
      Because the externalities seem to be the shadows cast by commodity production, but the mode of production seems central.

    • @laurencepeterson8466
      @laurencepeterson8466 2 роки тому

      @@MarvinRoman Hi Marvin, thanks for the interesting comment. In response, I would return to Marx's use of the word "appears". As Prof. Harvey has often said, when Marx uses words like this, which Marx does repeatedly at important points, he is trying to prepare us for a certain movement in his analysis. In this case, the reference to appearances should prepare us to watch Marx attempt to develop, with all relevant contradictions, a structural process that involves far more than the mere appearance might suggest in isolation. By doing so, Marx then is able to approach the production process theoretically without remaining focused on the mere appearance of bourgeois market functioning, where most conventional economists are happy to languish. Where things get dicey is my suggestion that capitalist production no longer appears to us so much as an immense collection of commodities, but is beginning to appear to us in the accumulation of externalities that are so rapidly and thoroughly taking hold, and perhaps encroaching on the very appearance of commodities in everyday life. My comment was not a theoretical suggestion so much as a playful invitation for people to try to tease meaning out of it, or to reject it.

    • @MarvinRoman
      @MarvinRoman 2 роки тому

      ​@@laurencepeterson8466 I see, I can appreciate what it compels in me to consider. Like when Guy Debord rephrases it in Society of the Spectracle to be an "immense accumulation of spectacles". I would say it's a great way to start a dive into a specific piece of capitalism's effects. However, I guess I still see it downstream from commodity production though. But I am honestly not well grounded in theory which is why I am here trying to get through the MOB mother of all books. It's always intimidated me 😬

  • @henryberrylowry9512
    @henryberrylowry9512 3 роки тому +1

    "And it was an Idealist conception that human beings have been alienated from their own potentiality and nature." This was Marx' subjective Idealist position, not the German Idealist trend culminating in Hegel. Ironically, in the Manuscripts, Marx makes the very move he falsely accuses Hegel of (the one you have mentioned in the quote above).
    The Objective Idealist conception of Alienation or Externalization (Entfremdung/Entäusserung) a la Hegel is what is now called "dialectical materialism". The split between thought and its object, between a subject and the objective world, marks an irreversible form of alienation which sets into motion the externalization of the spirit of a person/people to project onto and subsequently alter extended substance or what we now call Matter.
    However, Matter isn't merely this inert universal substance , as 'it' does not apply this Notion to "itself" (funny enough Marx sounds much more mystical to me on this point), but rather is subsequently elevated to thought after the instances of manifestations of material events are elevated to a general concept in thought which we call Matter.
    Late Marx, in his fully developed phase, is where he is truly Hegelian and understands this dialectical relation between the extended substance, matter, Being etc and thought which divides, unites, posits, particularizes and generalizes.
    Capital is Hegel's Logic applied to economics...A monumental feat!

    • @ClaudioBenassi
      @ClaudioBenassi 2 роки тому

      You are right, the problem is the transitioning from idealism to materialism. Something is evidently going to be lost, on a scientifically viewpoint.

    • @ClaudioBenassi
      @ClaudioBenassi 2 роки тому

      Marx’s new world in practice would be pretty crude in respect to the past.

  • @mikey5279
    @mikey5279 3 роки тому

    1:08:00

  • @franciszekkorbanski2782
    @franciszekkorbanski2782 2 роки тому

    does anyone know what edition of Capital he is citing from?

  • @user-ty2zn6vk8r
    @user-ty2zn6vk8r 3 місяці тому

    1:09:08 Human Labor Value

  •  2 роки тому

    58:18 Marx está más interesado en el proceso de la creación de VALOR a travézdel "flow" dinero-mercancia-producción-mercancia-dinero-distribución etc.... La creación del Valor en el proceso. Eso es lo importnte.

  • @ndiogoudjim4123
    @ndiogoudjim4123 11 місяців тому +1

    La meilleure solution pour un monde meilleur climat

  • @mortek1379
    @mortek1379 Місяць тому

    where is the superplus?

  • @juliansnei96
    @juliansnei96 Рік тому

    Why there is not subtitles

  • @wildgoose77
    @wildgoose77 3 роки тому

    Could you please fix the hiss in the audio?