Why did Rome attack Greece? ⚔️ Battle of Cynoscephalae, 197 BC (Part 1/2)

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  • Why did Rome attack Greece? ⚔️ Battle of Cynoscephalae, 197 BC (Part 1/2)
    I'm so happy to say that I've collaborated with HistoryMarche on this amazing mini-series.
    In the 1st Part you will learn about the geopolitics of this period and why did Rome attack Greece. In the 2nd part, you will see details about the Battle of Cynoscephalae
    Make sure to check out Part 2 on HistoryMarche's Channel, for a detailed animated battle that changed the history of Rome and Ancient Greece. • Why did Rome attack Gr...
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  • @Knowledgia
    @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +112

    Check PART 2 on HistoryMarche's Channel : ua-cam.com/video/IFTtvRmNX0c/v-deo.html
    Consider subscribing to his channel as he does amazing battle videos that you'll probably enjoy!

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche 3 роки тому +19

      Chiming in to say that it's been great working with Knowledgia. And we got more stuff planned :)

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +12

      @@HistoryMarche More to be made :)

    • @ShadowSpy666
      @ShadowSpy666 3 роки тому +9

      Absolutely awesome collaboration: keep it coming like this, huge fan of both of your channels!

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 роки тому +3

      I like the idea of collaboration between two fine history channels. And I'm already a longtime subscriber to HistoryMarche. I actually subscribed to them before I found Knowledgia.

    • @denniscleary7580
      @denniscleary7580 3 роки тому +3

      Any friend of History Marche is my friend👍

  • @Alex_FRD
    @Alex_FRD 3 роки тому +428

    Rome: *Crosses the Adriatic to invade Greece*
    Me, who does not know how to do naval combat: *Invades through Dalmatia*

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +82

      Imperator Rome?

    • @deteon1418
      @deteon1418 3 роки тому +15

      At least you can recruit some Dalmatian horsemen or something on the way.

    • @zainmudassir2964
      @zainmudassir2964 3 роки тому +15

      @@deteon1418 Dalmation dogs too but I doubt the breed existed yet

    • @RexGalilae
      @RexGalilae 3 роки тому +11

      @@deteon1418
      The Illyrians were a belligerent bunch. They'd have constantly raided, pillaged and annoyed your troops and their supplies each step of the way
      I'd rather be catapulted across the Adriatic than walk through their stench ridden lands

    • @Alex_FRD
      @Alex_FRD 3 роки тому +4

      @@Knowledgia Yes.

  • @byzantinetales
    @byzantinetales 3 роки тому +381

    I sometimes wonder whether the Hellenistic states were so ignorant of the Roman expansion or they were so busy fighting each other that they couldn’t actually do anything regarding this issue.

    • @Toto-95
      @Toto-95 3 роки тому +49

      Both. Even those who were aware had already 1 bezillion issues to take care of.

    • @Warmaker01
      @Warmaker01 3 роки тому +40

      Outside of Philip II and Alexander the Great of Macedon kind of forcing a unified effort, Greece has a very long history of fighting each other.
      In 480 BC you had the Battle of Thermopylae.
      In 479 BC you had the Battle of Plataea, which helped end the Persian campaign in Greece.
      Greeks fighting the Persian invasion.
      Greek unity disappeared with the devastating Peloponnesian War of 431-404 BC only a few decades later, complete with the Persians funding one of the two leagues.
      That's just the tip of the iceberg.
      Also, all the major players in the Hellenic world were fully aware of the rising power coming out of Italy. Greece is next door to Italy and there's still tons of Greeks in southern Italy. Philip V actually went to war against the Romans DURING the Second Punic War when Rome was having trouble with Hannibal, Rome never forgot this. With the Greeks fighting against each other, bringing in the Romans against much bigger opponents, i.e. Philip V of Macedon, was probably quite reasonable to them. Rome was the only power that the Macedonians, Seleucids, and Ptolemies had to respect. The Achaean League was not going to stand up to Macedon by itself.

    • @theyoutubenomad.3035
      @theyoutubenomad.3035 2 роки тому +13

      there was no Way in which the greeks could have avoided their fate of being invaded by the roman empire.
      the greeks already Had way too many problems to do deal with before and after the invasion had started, and many of the greek states had ignored the issue of roman impérial expansion in so that They could look after their own internal prombles.

    • @locusta4662
      @locusta4662 2 роки тому +9

      simply the Roman way to use the power was incredible and had fortune on her side . Rome was born in the same period as the firsts greeks colonyes in Sicily . At the beginning the city was not the richest city in Italy but at north the Etruscans spent much power against the gauls . in the south the greeks colonyes fougth against cartago and so they didn't grow up as fast as Rome . At east Alxander was the reason of the greek's fall . Aside from that Rome was incredible at bribing other people , had a very strong centralized power , they copyed the enemy , and were pioneers in the ways of propaganda and thanks to that they had a greater capaciy to resist as a state

    • @budibausto
      @budibausto 2 роки тому +10

      Rome was also fighting other Italics

  • @nikosveloudakisafricancich2990
    @nikosveloudakisafricancich2990 3 роки тому +333

    Fan fact before his dying Alexander the Great was planning to make a campaign in the west. Imagine what it would have been! He was only 33. Caesar when he concord the Galls was 53.

    • @jackdonith
      @jackdonith 2 роки тому +27

      The army had gathered in Babylon for a campaign in Arabia. as he'd go around the penninsula starting from modern Kuweit, he;d end up near Egypt and it's supposed he'd campaign against Carthage from there.

    • @Dante-vf4sd
      @Dante-vf4sd 2 роки тому +1

      King Nebuchadnezzar was the most powerful ruler in ratio to the times they lived and tech/ weapons they had. Each following great empire is weaker.

    • @nikosveloudakisafricancich2990
      @nikosveloudakisafricancich2990 2 роки тому +22

      @@Dante-vf4sd The Athenians fought with Atlantis 10.000 b.c with lazer canons and their ship were flying. Also Jason with Argo and his Argonauts who was flying too, travelled to Amazon Brazil in one of his adventures. Also huge copper mines were found in the three big lakes in northern USA and the general idea is that Greeks were mining and send home thousands of years ago because the local indians were at the stone age. Navaho indians in the west coast of America still uses greek words and just not forget the findings in Mohave desert in California! Also lets not forget the travels of Hercules and Hermes in India thousands of years before Alexander the Great. The story of Greece ,as the Egyptians knew, started 100.000 years ago and survived three major flloods but the today historians try to cover it up because they will have to rewrite the worlds history from the beginning. So they continue to estimate Greek history 2000 years before the birth of Jesus Christ and not 10.000 or 15.000 years before Christ as they should!

    • @Dante-vf4sd
      @Dante-vf4sd 2 роки тому +2

      @@nikosveloudakisafricancich2990 There will have been civs pre great flood, who knows what they were like but they weren't as old as you are imagining, no more that 7 or 8 thousand years. Post flood Babylon is the most solid empire, the golden head, each one there after is made of weaker material/ foundations. The last and final one will encompass the entire world again in a more complete way but will be ultimately the weakest foundationally and will be broken by the Rock.

    • @-_Ella_--wk9ej
      @-_Ella_--wk9ej 2 роки тому +2

      @@Dante-vf4sd If they've made new technology doesn't that just make them better in general considering innovating is the way to defeat your enemy in battle, it's the same in technology

  • @regiltube7932
    @regiltube7932 3 роки тому +210

    Laws are like sausage, it is better not to see them being made
    -Otto Von Bismarck

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +39

      Bismarck had wisdom!

    • @regiltube7932
      @regiltube7932 3 роки тому +6

      @@Knowledgia indeed, 😁 I happen to come across this humor flavored Quote from otto, I am shock to see such quote as this haha

    • @josepatino2368
      @josepatino2368 2 роки тому

      💯

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn 2 роки тому +2

      Give a nobel prize to the guy who wrote this comment
      -Admiral Yi

    • @TheJallumn
      @TheJallumn 2 роки тому +2

      A historical figure could say "Im going to go take a shit" and someone would still quote it

  • @vangelisskia214
    @vangelisskia214 3 роки тому +296

    "Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit" ("Greece, although captured, took its wild conqueror captive") - Horace

    • @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
      @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt 3 роки тому +3

      @Ghost Ghost According to Horace not so Delenta. On the contrary...

    • @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
      @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt 3 роки тому +58

      @Ghost Ghost And what happened after that? Hellenism found the way and flourished again and gave birth to the eastern Roman empire. The eastern Roman Empire stood solid for a period over 1100 years as the breakwater against the Asiatic hordes. It gave Europe the chance to rise and reach Rennesance. After that, internet was created and here we are, having this conversation.

    • @nomissiontodifficult3054
      @nomissiontodifficult3054 3 роки тому

      @@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt lmaoo poggers

    • @miliba
      @miliba 3 роки тому +11

      Same can be said for China when the Mongols and Manchus "conquered" them

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 3 роки тому +11

      @@miliba Yes, surely the two cases bare similarities.

  • @thealphasam7350
    @thealphasam7350 3 роки тому +92

    This is so high quality. Also, appreciate the kaiserreich refference with the music. This channel gets better every video, keep it up. :)

  • @user-nc5yc9es6j
    @user-nc5yc9es6j 3 роки тому +75

    So the greek states feuded with each other, which resulted in all of them(except Greco Bactrians and Indo Greeks) coming under Roman rule.

    • @georgekokkos5347
      @georgekokkos5347 3 роки тому +19

      It wasn’t Roman rule. It was Roman ‘protection’ 🥸

    • @DivineHellas
      @DivineHellas 3 роки тому +8

      @@georgekokkos5347 Roman Unification

    • @georgekokkos5347
      @georgekokkos5347 3 роки тому +1

      @@DivineHellas I like that term too

    • @MojoBonzo
      @MojoBonzo 3 роки тому +5

      the thing is for the greeks it was better to be under someone from the other side of the sea(for all they knew the romans could lose a war in the future which would make their dominance over their city lighter and easier to remove) than from their neighbor... first of all dont forget that the macedons were still the kingdom that went all the way to asia, the diadochoi were still beefing over who takes to rule the empire... and alexander was god and all, but he didnt do the fighting... the phalanx did and greeks always feared/respected a good phalanx, be it spartan, theban or macedonian... think about it, you have macedonia next to you and then some upstarts on the other side of italy(i mean dont even consider "rome" as italy yet, its not long ago and the boot wasnt "roman-roman", had the romans actually failed somewhere down the way, the boot could still fragment, especially the greeks in the south and the gauls on the north and maybe some latins too)... so whom do you fear more? the people that have leveled thebes and have shoved their dicks to your face for a century now or some greebos from the tyrrenhian sea with funny looking soldiers(i mean they were not even phalangites ffs! im fairly certain that to the greeks at that time, they looked like noob soldier! xD)

    • @DivineHellas
      @DivineHellas 3 роки тому +5

      @@MojoBonzo yes I agree, and also on top of all that the Greeks never had any problem with Roman interference but wanted it because they were fed up with Macedonian rule and they didn’t consider the Romans something different just some other city state on the other side of the sea, they weren’t considered barbarians so Roman interferes was something good.

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 3 роки тому +28

    amazing thank you both for your hard work!

  • @wael4070
    @wael4070 3 роки тому +27

    History Marche Channel is my favorite, it's great to have them collaborate with yours

    • @RexGalilae
      @RexGalilae 3 роки тому +3

      Don't you dare compare the prestigious "History Marche" to the trashy "History Channel"

    • @wael4070
      @wael4070 3 роки тому +1

      @@RexGalilae actually I misspelled it, I meant History Marche, thanks.

    • @RexGalilae
      @RexGalilae 3 роки тому +3

      @@wael4070
      No problem, the senate has decreed that you be set free with a warning

    • @chrisberge1634
      @chrisberge1634 3 роки тому

      I agree with you !

  • @vikingdemonpr
    @vikingdemonpr 3 роки тому +24

    I love these collabs between history channels. Keep em coming. 😍

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +4

      We will for sure. Just wait a few months, something big is coming

  • @samuelmargueret9626
    @samuelmargueret9626 3 роки тому +6

    A spectacular video , as always an Amazing work you did for that documentary on 2 parts !! Keep Going on love that and the idea that you make videos with history marche !!! You deserve way more sucess !!

  • @Falls628
    @Falls628 3 роки тому +11

    I like this guys enthusiasm when dramatic things happen.

  • @RexGalilae
    @RexGalilae 3 роки тому +41

    Can't help but feel bad for Phillip V. The cards were so heavily stacked against him, yet he kept going.
    Wasn't his fault in all of this. He was lucky to be born with brilliant traits of a great leader yet unlucky enough to have Rome as his enemy.

    • @Atomic866
      @Atomic866 3 роки тому +5

      Alexander was just lucky to have a weak dying empire as an enemy

    • @lewistaylor2858
      @lewistaylor2858 3 роки тому +1

      why? he shouldn't have stabbed Rome in the back if he didn't want to get destroyed.

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify 3 роки тому +22

      @@Atomic866 "dying empire" lmao, which dying empire could afford to assemble twice times and an army of 100k men from their dominions? In Anatolia, at the river and the first battle, Alexander sure was in a slight advantage, but he still had to cross the river to engage the enemy. Due to his bravery and genius tactician to take advantage of the terrain he was about to battle.

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +15

      Yes. Philip was a good leader, but Rome had more power and influence in the end

    • @Atomic866
      @Atomic866 3 роки тому

      @@mariano98ify The Persian Empire was weak politically and somewhat militarily. Persia's army was large, yes, but they used the same tactics from Cyrus the Great, 300 years prior. They had little to no military innovation in tactics thus were beaten by the Macedonians. Persia's political system was also weakened by internal instability which could affect Persia's military to a certain degree.

  • @adzsrulz
    @adzsrulz 3 роки тому +35

    Unexpected but damn cool colab!

  • @ashclaw2306
    @ashclaw2306 3 роки тому +19

    Oh dear history! what a good collaboration.
    Well done , both of you!

  • @jonathanrobison9667
    @jonathanrobison9667 3 роки тому +30

    Anyone notice how the east most Border, 2:00, kinda looks like a side view of Alexander’s face?

    • @sayedhusson3876
      @sayedhusson3876 3 роки тому

      Oh yeah cool

    • @bujarcullhai3567
      @bujarcullhai3567 2 роки тому

      Alessandro Magnio e Iliri macedonia Albanian Legend

    • @johnsnow5286
      @johnsnow5286 2 роки тому

      @@bujarcullhai3567 delete this comment bujar, from an albanian myself

    • @justinmuca8842
      @justinmuca8842 2 роки тому

      @@johnsnow5286 perse vella?? Aleksandri i madh ishte ilir me baba maqedonas dhe nene ilire, pra kishte prejardhje ilire keshtu qe bujari nuk e ka gabim.

    • @johnsnow5286
      @johnsnow5286 2 роки тому

      @@justinmuca8842 duhen akoma prova

  • @irtifairshad2646
    @irtifairshad2646 3 роки тому +4

    You should do more of this....Great Job!!!

  • @thedirty530
    @thedirty530 3 роки тому +24

    I like how the collab is on both channels! I sure have appreciated all the work you guys have put out this past year... You make lessons of our past far more accessible to the average person. If that's not a teacher, I don't know what is!

  • @arrikmontijo3916
    @arrikmontijo3916 3 роки тому

    Subscribed and liked. Excellent job partnering with History Marche. This is quality.

  • @Tigerman85
    @Tigerman85 3 роки тому +145

    I'm already subscribed to both of you of course. Who isn't? 🧐

    • @samuelmargueret9626
      @samuelmargueret9626 3 роки тому +2

      You right, but there still a lot of people who are not subscribe to them !!

    • @DaVultureTTG
      @DaVultureTTG 3 роки тому +6

      Roughly 7.6 billion people 😂

    • @Tigerman85
      @Tigerman85 3 роки тому +7

      @@DaVultureTTG 🤔 Well not everyone has internet.

    • @DaVultureTTG
      @DaVultureTTG 3 роки тому

      That wasn't specified, can't go making new restrictions on the data set after the fact now 😅

    • @yousefshahin2654
      @yousefshahin2654 3 роки тому

      I Subscribed to Knowledgeia

  • @RodolfoGaming
    @RodolfoGaming 3 роки тому +4

    Why is the 2nd part was uploaded before the first what kind of scheduling is that?
    jk love the video and was looking for something more than just K&G's video on it a while ago glad you guys went more in depth with this particular one! Glad to also see a collab from 2 channels i'm subbed to. Anything else on the pipeline or going solo for the next video?

  • @Georgios1821
    @Georgios1821 3 роки тому +2

    I love your maps guys keep them coming

  • @mattpope1746
    @mattpope1746 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent graphics and narration.

  • @ashiinsane90
    @ashiinsane90 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent videos, Would be amazing to see episodes about ancient Egyptians wars.

    • @altinmares8363
      @altinmares8363 2 роки тому

      If you love history you can watch videos at channel "Kings and Generals"

  • @stjepanemilsculac3221
    @stjepanemilsculac3221 3 роки тому +11

    Why you don’t have subtitles? There is many of us who don’t hear very well :/

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +17

      They are on now. I knew something was missing. Thank you!

  • @JoeRockCr
    @JoeRockCr 3 роки тому +2

    Great collaboration!

  • @tonyb9735
    @tonyb9735 3 роки тому +2

    Brilliant vid, in particular I'm loving the graphics

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you Tony! The graphics will be even more improved in time

  • @tasoslts3480
    @tasoslts3480 3 роки тому +45

    Amazing video!!!! And to state it once more just for clarifications, ancient macedonians were Greeks, just like all other Greek cities and Kingdoms.

    • @charlesandrews2360
      @charlesandrews2360 2 роки тому +2

      Then why did they live in Macedonia?

    • @Spacegamer1250
      @Spacegamer1250 2 роки тому +12

      @@charlesandrews2360 it was long before the slavic migrations into southern Europe

    • @arbenzeneli2126
      @arbenzeneli2126 2 роки тому +5

      Macdonians are greek lol greek didn't even existin this era, there were Ilyrians and thrakes modern Albania now

    • @Spacegamer1250
      @Spacegamer1250 2 роки тому +12

      @@arbenzeneli2126 nope the Greeks did exist they were one of the first civilized groups on the greek peninsula they are the only group that didnt migrate into their modern region in the past 10-5k years

    • @SardonianSmile
      @SardonianSmile 2 роки тому

      @@charlesandrews2360 citizens of Nevada live there, why not in USA?

  • @frankmithra6140
    @frankmithra6140 3 роки тому +11

    Amazing how Rome produced one Legion and Great Leader after another!!!
    Their resources were incredible!!!

  • @shawnbeckett1370
    @shawnbeckett1370 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome as always

  • @ayman2121
    @ayman2121 3 роки тому +2

    This is amazing
    High quality ❤️💙

  • @scacchiereglobale
    @scacchiereglobale 3 роки тому +5

    Epic collab!

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you :) We really invested a lot of hours into this

    • @scacchiereglobale
      @scacchiereglobale 3 роки тому +1

      @@Knowledgia congratulations for the quality you can bring to this channel! You are a reference for culture on UA-cam!

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +2

      @@scacchiereglobale I still have to learn and to do a lot, I hope i can bring even more quality for you guys :)

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 3 роки тому +4

    great collaboration between two of my favourite channels

  • @detailersgarage
    @detailersgarage Рік тому

    Amazing video, thank you for making.

  • @dannielcabacungan8348
    @dannielcabacungan8348 3 роки тому +1

    Oh yeah ive been waiting for this

  • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
    @giulianoilfilosofo7927 2 роки тому +6

    Because Italians love Greece and would like it to be united to the Peninsula. Jokes aside, we truly like our Greek neighbours, No humor about that one.

    • @greekmetalhead1805
      @greekmetalhead1805 2 роки тому

      We love you too brothers. Una faccia una razza 🇬🇷❤🇮🇹

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому

      Last time this happened it didn't go so well (ww2)

    • @giulianoilfilosofo7927
      @giulianoilfilosofo7927 Рік тому +1

      @@wankawanka3053 One unsuccess over a 100 successes is the exception that confirms the rule

  • @leadingauctions8440
    @leadingauctions8440 2 роки тому +3

    How long did it take for the second group to go around entire mountains?!
    That sounds like it would take far too many weeks to arrive in time.

  • @trentondamm194
    @trentondamm194 3 роки тому +1

    very good video guys.
    please keep up the great work.

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому

      We wil for sure :) Thank you!

  • @deteon1418
    @deteon1418 3 роки тому

    Really good video!
    👌

  • @peterroberts7684
    @peterroberts7684 3 роки тому +7

    One of Rome’s crimes,was a bone headed legionnaire slaying the Greek genius Achemedes ..

    • @DivineHellas
      @DivineHellas 3 роки тому +1

      Another was the destruction of Corinth and another was the Burning of Alexandria, the Romans sometimes were complete. r e t 4 r d s, but in the great picture they were a good part of the Hellenic history.

    • @peterroberts7684
      @peterroberts7684 3 роки тому

      @@DivineHellas The Greeks were refined,but the new rising power of Rome of this era abit less but as time goes on ,Rome will gain The civilising influences of Greece,and yes the Romans did go onto complete the Alexandrian dream of a unified world between east and west,under one emperor..

    • @DimitrisTziounis
      @DimitrisTziounis Рік тому +1

      Peter Roberts, our ancestors never threw women and children to lions nor did they force people to kill one another for "entertainment". The Romans were the ones who did these and other horrific things, therefore the term "Greco-Roman civilization" is invalid. In fact, there was only Greek Civilization and the Romans just copied it.

    • @cantrait7311
      @cantrait7311 3 місяці тому

      @@DimitrisTziounisif that makes you feel better ok

    • @DimitrisTziounis
      @DimitrisTziounis 3 місяці тому

      @@cantrait7311 What exactly do you mean by that? My statement is based on FACTS. Forget my feelings.

  • @connordevereaux759
    @connordevereaux759 3 роки тому +5

    Great video knowledgia 😊👍🏻
    I like history from any period of time. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @antonioborzellega9700
    @antonioborzellega9700 2 роки тому

    That was unbelievable, thanks.

  • @averagerevolutionary6698
    @averagerevolutionary6698 2 роки тому +1

    I told my teacher about your channel and she is loving your videos.

  • @HellenicWolf
    @HellenicWolf 3 роки тому +48

    Macedonians are descendants of Greek city-states btw that immigrated from the South (search on it). So saying greek freedom doesn't make sense. There were city-states that had a common Hellenic ancestry and ethics. It wasn't Macedon vs Greece. Let's not fall into the traps of semantics that favor Slavic bungalows from FYROM.

    • @janeza382
      @janeza382 2 роки тому +1

      Macedonia was kingdom, city states was colonial outposts. Greece is Roman name.

    • @mickeymouse1697
      @mickeymouse1697 2 роки тому

      @@janeza382 This is a GREEK CIVIL WAR the Romans exploited , The Greeks pulled their own eyes out

    • @janeza382
      @janeza382 2 роки тому

      @@mickeymouse1697 By that logic Ukraine is civil war . If Greece is Roman name it is not Greek war...

    • @mesafamily5830
      @mesafamily5830 Рік тому

      The same logic also says we’re all fam, so these divisive comments don’t hold much weight to me

    • @alexandros6433
      @alexandros6433 Рік тому +1

      Also not completely slavic, it's just balkan people mixed with slavic and greek but speaking a slavic language.

  • @tomurg
    @tomurg 3 роки тому +16

    A new power is rising! It’s victory is at hand! There will be no dawn, for Greece....

    • @Facade953
      @Facade953 2 роки тому

      Actually, Athens thrived under Roman rule. The rest of Greece though...

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому

      Many greek states thrived why do you even think that eastern rome was richer than the west that and Egypt

  • @akirama4086
    @akirama4086 3 роки тому +1

    I was subscribed to the 2 when I received the notif at the same time

  • @fabionwilson6992
    @fabionwilson6992 2 роки тому

    Excellent job!!

    • @altinmares8363
      @altinmares8363 2 роки тому

      If you love history you can watch videos at channel "Kings and Generals"

  • @Luthies
    @Luthies 3 роки тому +14

    The pronouncement of Flamininus is killing me xD

    • @essenceofsuchness
      @essenceofsuchness 3 роки тому +8

      Yes and it doesn't stop there. CannEE? HellesPOINT? I spent this whole video wishing I could edit his script. Poor grammar and so many wrongly selected words as well.

    • @DesertAres
      @DesertAres 3 роки тому +2

      I have watched almost of this channel’s offerings and there isn’t one that does have egregious mispronunciation after egregious mispronunciation. It hurt my ears to hear his pronunciation of Flamininus, Cannae, Antiochus, Ptolemy, Nicaea,
      Acro-Corinth. This has probably more incorrect pronunciations, than all the rest combined.,

    • @norbzt
      @norbzt 3 роки тому +1

      That's how it's actually pronounced though.

    • @Luthies
      @Luthies 3 роки тому +1

      @@norbzt it's not, he pronounces it like "Flam-inin-us" it's actual pronouncement is "Flami-ni-nus"

    • @DesertAres
      @DesertAres 3 роки тому

      I’m sorry after 2 years of Latin at the University of Richmond and 2 more years at UCLA I can speak with some formal education on the subject. Unless someone has a tape recorder and can send it back 2200 years, no one can definitely ascertain as to the exact pronunciation.

  • @terza333
    @terza333 3 роки тому +10

    The Chad Flaminius vs The Virgin Mussolini

  • @lcloco100
    @lcloco100 3 роки тому +1

    nice this collaboration need more of this

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. And a collaboration between two fine history channel's is a great idea. Too bad it doesn't happen every day.

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +1

      I wish I could upload every day. But every video requires a lot of hours...

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 роки тому +1

      @@Knowledgia---I can respect that. Your video's are very good. Nicely informative. Have a nice day or night wherever you are.

  • @user-ll9hb3sd8h
    @user-ll9hb3sd8h 3 роки тому +11

    The Byzantine empire according to modern Byzantinism is the continuation of the Hellenistic period this is true in many way's. Byzantine warfare was based on that of the Hellenistic-Greeks, Belisarius himself when "invading" Italy tried to emulate Pyrrhus of Epirus armor, he also had studied Xenophon's tactic's and he had employed the Sarissa style phalanx against the Italo-Goths. The Greeco-Gothic wars is pretty much the invasion and devastation of Italy by the Greeks (A huge plotuist)
    PD:Pls Knowledgia make a video about this!!! Cheers from a huge fan :)

    • @Atomic866
      @Atomic866 3 роки тому +11

      The Byzantine empire was really just another Greek Empire. Due to centuries of interbreeding and cultural influence, those ruling the Empire were far more Greek than Roman. It’s kinda like the plot in some spy movies where your enemy survives and take over the country from within.

    • @user-ll9hb3sd8h
      @user-ll9hb3sd8h 3 роки тому +4

      @@Atomic866 Amen the devastation of Italy by the "Greeks" it has being seen as an practical approch of what would had happened in the Hellenistic period if Pyrrhus succed on destroying the Romans.

    • @tylerellis9097
      @tylerellis9097 3 роки тому +5

      @@user-ll9hb3sd8h Neither Justinian nor Belisarius were Greek and the majority of Roman forces under Justinian weren’t Greek either. Latin was still the military language and Armenians formed the core of the Eastern Army,

    • @user-ll9hb3sd8h
      @user-ll9hb3sd8h 3 роки тому +4

      @@tylerellis9097 Yes both were Ilyro-trakians but they both had being Hellenized to some degree. Justinian tried to Hellenized the jews in Palestine by mayking and edict where traditional Jewish practices were banned and the native Jewish rituals had being probihited. He impose the Greek bible "sputgant" and he made it mandatory to practice the Greek rite insteed of the Jewish one. And let me correct you in something. Belisarius army was in a large degree Greco-Balkanic. According to Procopius after the siege of MIlan most native Roman-Latin citizens had being killed by Belisarius army afterwards it is said that he repopulated the city with Greeks from Anatolia, Sicily and nearby towns and at all times he's said to give orders in Greek not in Latin. Again in Procopius "on wars" it is said that he called his soldiers to form a "Chiliarchia" a traditional Hellenistic warfare formation to figth an Italo-Roman village that was resisting to the "Greeks".

    • @stratvar
      @stratvar 3 роки тому +3

      @Jordan & Jordan My God the amount of time you must spend to go to every youtube video that involves Greece and post your propaganda nonsense in every comment even remotely mentioning Greece. Truly amazing. I mean i just saw you in two or three videos but i am willing to bet you do this a lot. If they paid you for that, you would have been a millionaire by now. Maybe it's time to find a girlfriend and leave history to the grown ups.

  • @larrys6678
    @larrys6678 2 роки тому +5

    For anyone who might interpret all this as if Macedonians were not Greek, I would just like to remind everybody that all Greek states were in constant antagonsim with one whenever they were not threatened by an outside force. The Peloponnesean war is a very good example of that. The Greeks had just beaten the Persians in war and when everything was all over, they started fighting with each other about which state would be the Alpha Dog in Greek affairs. That is when some states started asking Persians for help, in order to subdue other Greek states. And the Persians actually took advantage of that and started playing an active role in Greek politics by helping one or the other city-state, although they had failed in occupying the territory in direct conflict. As one may see, the same thing happened with Rome, and the result is well-known to all.

    • @skylinelover9276
      @skylinelover9276 5 місяців тому

      Greek is a modern concepts.. the real names of Hellenic states were Macedon, Epirus, Thessally and Achea(also known as Greek city states)

  • @mrsmuggiepuss0181
    @mrsmuggiepuss0181 3 роки тому

    Love the vids

  • @bvillafuerte765
    @bvillafuerte765 9 місяців тому

    Excellent video.

  • @arasarkissian501
    @arasarkissian501 2 роки тому +11

    I love Greece ❤️ soldiers of the lord almighty

  • @xjuliussx
    @xjuliussx 3 роки тому +4

    imagine been in Philip V boots not able to defend Macedonia, while Alexander took over the whole world.

  • @wizardpv1
    @wizardpv1 3 роки тому +1

    You and historymarche are dream team

  • @farhadzaker2377
    @farhadzaker2377 3 роки тому

    Exceptional Narration!

  •  3 роки тому +12

    Wow...

  • @aldrinmilespartosa1578
    @aldrinmilespartosa1578 3 роки тому +8

    I think Hannibal Barca has the talent and skill that can rival even for the great Alexander but became tied from the limitation of its own empire

    •  3 роки тому +1

      The romans always said he only was in the wrong side of the history.

    • @aegonii8471
      @aegonii8471 2 роки тому +2

      Hannibal was kinda dumb for escalating the 2nd Punic war at the time he did. He should’ve spent his lifetime building up his powerbase in Spain and ultimately become king of Carthage.

    • @haideramvs3891
      @haideramvs3891 Рік тому

      @@aegonii8471 or could have besieged and ended rome after his campaigns in central italy

    • @AustinSauce3
      @AustinSauce3 Рік тому

      @@aegonii8471 no, Rome provoked the Second Punic war in various ways. Hannibal being confident and powerful in Spain, rose to their challenge and the rest is history.

    • @cantrait7311
      @cantrait7311 3 місяці тому

      Then he met Scipio and the rest is history

  • @pixydust4112
    @pixydust4112 2 роки тому +1

    wow amazing video

  • @erd9637
    @erd9637 Рік тому

    Super nice videos and aspatially animation

  • @heilvaterland5321
    @heilvaterland5321 3 роки тому +3

    The next time they tried to invade Greece through Albania.. it did not went so well lol.

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому

      @Keeps these never were actual wars more like venicians taking advantage of Eastern Rome's weakness

  • @tiusernamenabalw
    @tiusernamenabalw 2 роки тому +3

    I wonder how different the world would be if Alexander lived long enough to consolidate his empire and look to the West (where already the South of Italy was full of Greek colonies and Rome was much weaker). Maybe we would be commenting in Greek here :)

    • @astronaut205
      @astronaut205 Рік тому +1

      We still are in a way..
      considering english language is partially Greek/Latin oriented
      Some historians claim that Latin language had first-spoken in central Greece and had been carried to Italy by the colonists..and of course became the primary language of western Europe countries in the middle-ages: English, French etc.

    • @adolfhipsteryolocaust3443
      @adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Рік тому

      ​@@astronaut205 well those historians would be wrong

  • @rasulpourjafar2080
    @rasulpourjafar2080 3 роки тому

    Excellent ✌

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 3 роки тому

    Always good to hear fan-boying about my boy Hannibal.

  • @iwannisbalaouras1687
    @iwannisbalaouras1687 3 роки тому +3

    Greeks always where divided....

  • @pcjenkin
    @pcjenkin 2 роки тому +3

    I think Rome attacked Greece is the same reason why the Crusaders attacked Byzantium. Money and wealth.

    • @SmashingCapital
      @SmashingCapital 2 роки тому

      What do you think war is? You bet your troops and ability at war to obtain advantages later on

  • @Glyssajanenaganag
    @Glyssajanenaganag 3 роки тому

    I am already subbed to both of you

  • @dennisjk76
    @dennisjk76 3 роки тому +1

    Truly Epic! Both your narration and pace and atmospheric music make this history lesson very much enjoyable. I can listen to this and have the time to let my imagination produce the pictures and can still orientate myself of where we are and which character is who. I wish the channel "Invicta" had your pace...
    A heartfelt Thank You both from an "old" guy from Berlin

  • @fm-gamer5617
    @fm-gamer5617 2 роки тому +8

    The death of Alexander, the greatest Greek ever lived, was indeed a turning point for the Greek civilization and history led to modern Greece being much smaller than its historical homeland. I’m glad Greeks survived till today and didn’t got extinct.

    • @nikosveloudakisafricancich2990
      @nikosveloudakisafricancich2990 2 роки тому +1

      Great civilizations never die like the Egyptians and the Chinese except the later had a huge setback with islam and communism . We Greeks survived both of them that makes us the strongest of all ancient civilizations!

    • @mickeymouse1697
      @mickeymouse1697 2 роки тому +1

      The Greek Empire did not Collapse , it was just divided and administered by the DIADOCHI of Alexander the Great into separate GREEK KINGDOMS and DYNASTIES . The East Roman Empire aka BYZANTINE EMPIRE that out lived the destruction of Rome and the West by 1000 years is a Continuation of Alexander the Greats Hellenic Empire .

    • @NYG5
      @NYG5 Рік тому

      Should have won the 1919 war and removed kebab from anatolia.

  • @bogdanbarbu7156
    @bogdanbarbu7156 3 роки тому +3

    commentary tone is hillarious!!

  • @ciudat105
    @ciudat105 3 роки тому

    Good job

  • @theassening4563
    @theassening4563 3 роки тому +1

    0:17 sounds like a dungeon master narrating the campaing in the first session

  • @nonye0
    @nonye0 3 роки тому +4

    easy +1 sub

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you for your support!

  • @valkoharja
    @valkoharja 3 роки тому +4

    A calmer, more objective sounding read would be preferred. The hyped up enthusiasm seems very inappropriate, even when talking about wars which happened in the distant past.

    • @thefilthycasual8863
      @thefilthycasual8863 3 роки тому +2

      agreed, the end caught me off guard.

    • @RegCampbell
      @RegCampbell 3 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing all the way through. He sounds like he's on stage at a high school play.

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for your opinion :)

    • @names1842
      @names1842 3 роки тому

      I think he sounds good

    • @valkoharja
      @valkoharja 3 роки тому

      @@Knowledgia you’re welcome, intended as constructive feedback. I’m sure cultural expectations are in play here, as I’m from North Europe. American TV documentaries tend to sound terribly over-hyped to me as well. Think David Attenborough vs. American style of nature programming.

  • @LaPierrefr
    @LaPierrefr 2 роки тому +1

    Nice vidéo i like the translate in french, its more ez to understand what you say ^^

  • @Miskoleonic
    @Miskoleonic 2 роки тому

    Nice video! How to make so detailed map?

  • @aleksandarkozhuharov6533
    @aleksandarkozhuharov6533 3 роки тому +5

    I appreciate the video, but all the evidence show that Alexander was Greek. Calling his empire Macedonian it is wrong. Also how does it sound to you: Macedonian Empire conquered all that territory, but spread Greek language and culture? Just it does not make sense.

    • @DivineHellas
      @DivineHellas 3 роки тому +5

      But It was Macedonian. Just like an Athenian empire would be called the Athenian empire, it all goes under the Hellenic civilization.

    • @janeza382
      @janeza382 2 роки тому

      @@DivineHellas Hellenic civilization is not exclusive Greek.

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому

      @@janeza382 hellenic literally IS greek bruh greece full name is actually the HELLENIC Republic explain that smart ass😉

  • @kostas3577
    @kostas3577 3 роки тому +3

    I haven't watched the vid yet but I think that the Romans attacked the Geeks as a "revenge" for the city of troy bc they told everyone that the ancestors of the founders of Rome where from Troy

    • @kostas3577
      @kostas3577 3 роки тому

      Correction aslo the used the revenge thing

    • @lucaferrari2106
      @lucaferrari2106 3 роки тому

      no it is a legend...Roma was born from Romolo and no from Enea...he escape from Troy to nord of Turchia ..not in Italy..
      look the history on the books not on the movie of Hollywood guy ..bye

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому

      That's just a myth the romans here cared more about the politics of the situation than some sort of revenge they allied with half of the greeks

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому

      @Keeps greece wasn't really punished except for Corinth

  • @MerkaRaukea
    @MerkaRaukea 3 роки тому

    Your enthusiasm is great, which is honestly half the battle and I gotta applaud you there. After that though... I have a criticism that I'm forced to bring up. Your pronunciation for a lot of the names, titles, and even some generic words is pained and obviously wrong like you're getting drawn into the narrative script-reading. I know you're doing a lot of this as a collab, I highly recommend you run by some of these things with people like Historymarche who use these words on a continuous basis.

  • @MatthewLum11
    @MatthewLum11 6 місяців тому

    If you watched HistoryMarche's 19-episode series on Hannibal and the Second Punic War, I highly recommend THIS video as the next one to watch. It has that same strategy and feel to it that helps you understand why leaders did what they did as it pertains to warfare. 👌🏻

  • @peemanjones2796
    @peemanjones2796 3 роки тому

    Love it

  • @fabikom
    @fabikom 3 роки тому

    this is better than a movie

  • @HatredOfMephisto
    @HatredOfMephisto 3 роки тому

    beautiful

  • @29Alkis
    @29Alkis 2 роки тому

    This is interesting yall, but at 9:31 Orchomenus is sooo misplaced on the map I think i will cry...
    😥😢😢

  • @KennedyMister95
    @KennedyMister95 2 роки тому

    1:55 my heart shivers

  • @navinkumarpk86
    @navinkumarpk86 2 роки тому

    What are the basic maps you use to make the video?

  • @fisherdoing9472
    @fisherdoing9472 3 роки тому +1

    Nice

  • @aronvstheworld
    @aronvstheworld 2 роки тому

    This narrator is amazing

  • @eliaspapanikolaou3563
    @eliaspapanikolaou3563 3 роки тому +1

    Recommend to go to the video with title " How Rome was foudend" of this channel, EXELLENT

  • @RegCampbell
    @RegCampbell 3 роки тому

    Great vid, awesome collab! But please, diff narrator.

  • @rayanalfarhan9397
    @rayanalfarhan9397 Рік тому

    Why did you not made part 5 of the History of Rome?

  • @giannisgiannis870
    @giannisgiannis870 2 роки тому +2

    11:06 Chalkis is the city that I live now.

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  2 роки тому

      Amazing! Those lands are full of history!

  • @Thraim.
    @Thraim. 3 роки тому +1

    HistoryMarche sent me your way. Hi!

    • @Knowledgia
      @Knowledgia  3 роки тому +1

      Hello there! Thanks for coming and welcome to the channel :)

  • @contactaquarios2023
    @contactaquarios2023 3 роки тому

    When the sub eng will be uploaded?

  • @artanxheza5124
    @artanxheza5124 3 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: Plato was a wrestler and Plato was just his stage name. His actual name is unknown.

  • @charlesandrews2360
    @charlesandrews2360 2 роки тому

    Saved it to watch for later but I started laughing when I thought about the question:
    THEY NEEDED THE MONEY!!!!