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*FACTS:* Had they successfully cross the Sudd, the Romans would be able to make contact with the native Bantu and Nilotic peoples. This might cause them to discover a nearby lake (OTL Lake Victoria) in the middle of nowhere. However, finding out that the lake has more rivers than the White Nile itself, only a few Roman soldiers faced the adversities of the natives to send the message to Sicily.
Imagine, living in Rome, center of the most powerful empire at the time, hearing news of far off Africa. Living in the hot Mediterranean knowing of the forests to the north, and maybe the icy realms more north still. Thinking that the bottom of the world is a hot desert wasteland in opposition to the cold north. Then maybe finding that there are vast savannas with massive beasts in just grasslands, yet past that dense, lush jungles full of horror and wonder past that! Must have been exciting, maybe put into perspective the true size of the continent and the world.
Had they went even further,they would have known the place further down to be a Desert,followed by High Altitude Grasslands and finally the vast endless Southern Sea!😲😲😲
They were trading with countries in Indian subcontinent especially ancient Tamil country. So I believe they would have known a thing or two other than just Europe.
Greetings from Italy. This portions is always so overlooked, and it's strange. There are so many of articles and videos about Rome interacting with Asia, but so few talk about Romans in Africa. Thank you for making this video.
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The climate there must not have been as bad back then. Otherwise, I can't imagine how they'd have been able to transport enough food and water for the journey.
i've been to the atlas mountains and it was sunny, but fairly cool compared to the rest of morocco at the time. summer 2017 i think? morocco was insanely hot...i think it was about 96 fahrenheit just in the shade
@@StopFlaggingVideos Yes, some parts can really be hot in the south. Let alone when you enter the dessert. I kinda like the romanticized and adventurous idea of Roman expeditions into the Sahara. Would be great for a movie. But the reality is obviously very different xD
Rome wanted full control of the Mediterranean coast. Hence why it only occupied a slither of the north African coastline. It saw no benefit in penetrating deeper into the harsh and arid environment of central Africa. The Roman Empire was already dangerously overextended, struggling to put down rebellions in Britannia, Judea, Gaul and Hispania. Occupying vast swathes of largely infertile desert already inhabited by fiercely independent nomadic tribes would have been counterproductive to the Empire's ambitions.
Don’t forget to mention those fiercely independent tribes were master horsemen, archers & warriors. They knew the land by heart & were extremely good at hit & run tactics. The Romans knew it was a long losing battle.
@@mukisatimothy7508 That's a slight exaggeration. However the British Empire was the largest in history, yes - Dwarfing the Roman Empire by almost five times.
@Dean the Largest Empire in History and Sea Empire, the largest land Empire is the Mongol Empire and 2nd Largest Empire in the world 3rd is the Russian Empire
Roman coins of bronze, silver and copper have been found in my country of Zimbabwe. A hoard were found in a 21 metre mine shaft near the city of Mutare featuring Antoninas Pius. A silver coin was found in the Ruenya River featuring Emperor Philip's wife, Octacilia Severa. These were likely traded. It is fascinating how much history Africa has. PS. Arabian, Indian, Portuguese, Chinese, Greco-Scythian coins and goods have also been found.
this is true. until one makes a pilgrimage to lake chad, you can only be mostly chad, but still a little bit virgin. to reach pure chadness, lake chad is required.
Not exactly. There have always been huge aquifers of fossil water tapped by Berber native who can live nomadically in any part of the desert thanks to that and their pastoral herds that sustain them on long journeys in daytime caravans & nighttime camps. Romans moved in small groups with these people they paid to move & sustain them along the millenia long trans-Saharan trade network full of dozens of well-established routes interconnected by an archipelago of small but fertile desert oases, especially between the Fezzan & Chad basins. The Tibesti Ayer & Hoggar mountains are also full of life & resources for back & forth travel between Mediterranean & Sub-Saharan Africa. The water I mentioned earlier accumulated from the “Green Sahara” Humid Period (or Neolithic Subpluvial) when African monsoonal rains reached farther north shortly after ice age and made vast grasslands, marshes, forests, megalakes, etc. then drained into underground caverns after the 4.2 kiloyear desiccation event. But the Sahara has always been inhabited & traversed since prehistoric early humans.
9:47 A topic for another video? But that is the title. Based on what you showed us the name could be: Roman expeditions deeper in Africa, or Saara adventures by the Romans.
I’m Igbo and my people were healers, farmers,blacksmith, sculptors with iron ore. We moved and engaged in trade to Cameroon to Zaire to South Sudan all the way to Sicily. The roads/stories are well documented in our arts
I think you just misspoke there, but Carthage was not founded in 332 BCE. That's when Tyre was sacked by Alexander the Great, but Carthage had become dominant long before that, and was supposedly founded in 814 BCE.
@@yudistiraliem135 The Romans campaigned in Scotland and possibly Ireland in the 80s of the first century. According to Cassius Dio Emperor Domitian sent 100 horseman to help an allied tribe in what is today Poland, that's possibly the furthest they went into Germania.
*FACTS:* Had they successfully cross the Sudd, the Romans would be able to make contact with the native Bantu and Nilotic peoples. This might cause them to discover a nearby lake (OTL Lake Victoria) in the middle of nowhere. However, finding out that the lake has more rivers than the White Nile itself, only a few Roman soldiers faced the adversities of the natives to send the message to Sicily.
They explored and even traded in east africa not just axum but the somali city states of avalities, malao, mundus, opone etc etc they made it as far down as Swahili Coast if i remember correctly but this was when they already established the indian trade They're playable states in the Imperator: Rome game
Exactly what about Romans trying to pass through Danube River and Karpats Mountains. Officialy they had been to actualle Vienna (Austria) non official Histoires are that they arrived to nowadays Slovakia and maybe Romans arrived to nowadays Cracow (ancien Polish capital) through valleys of Tatra Mountains between Tchécoslovaque and Polish frontiers but Romans retreated to Danube river or a cause the battle won by ProtoSlavic and Goths tribes (similar to Teutoburg forest battle in the west after Rhine river crossing) or Romans signed kind of treaty for amber, fur and wax trade with chiefs of local tribes.
Suetonius Paulinus? Wasn't he the guy who put down Budicca's rebellion in Britain? The man went from Mauretania to Wales 2000 years ago.This is truly amazing. Truly a Pax Romana.
I'm surprised because cross the desert is undoubtedly hard and they needed to face many challenges and obstacles in the middle. The weather was extremely hot, I'm really surprised.
Was the sahara desert really that large during the time of the Romans (that is, at the height of their empire)? Hasn't the desert been steadily expanding? and wouldn't that infer that ~2000 years in the past it was much smaller? Could there have been other reasons why the Romans did not pursue expansion to the south?
The Romans only expanded into territories that made economic sense. If a territory could not support itself (and more) they would leave it to the control of someone else.
Nice video of the Roman exploring inner Africa. The Roman just had to followed the thousand years old ancient trade route from inner Africa to North Africa. The Sahara desert and the desert nomads make it difficult for the Roman to conquered inner Africa.
I donr think the romans wanted to venture too far into the jungle of central Africa due to how dangerous it was and still is. The romans should have tried to sail around the coast to map out the African continent for exploration purpose and perhaps trading to get. A better sense of how big Africa really is and could have set up posts along strategic areas along the coast.
Adrastos O the Phonecians made it as far down as Cameroon centuries before the Romans but doing that they never got off there ship to interact with the locals.
Romans in Sub-Saharan Africa. ... Between the first century BC and the fourth century AD, several expeditions and explorations to Lake Chad and western Africa were conducted by groups of military and commercial units of Romans who moved across the Sahara and into the interior of Africa and its coast.
If they did, west and central african people would be linked the rest of the world sooner. The trade links with North Africa were quite sporadic in ancient times and only increased in 8th century. Which means their history and development would be quite different, and the whole history would change. Rome wouldn't held power in this region for too long, not even berbers from the North did it. The trade and integration in Roman world would change everything, the modern age colonization probably would not exist and I woudn't be here.
Africa even today is divided into thousands of regional groups, clans, kingdoms. Back the Africa was wild, large, unpopulated & definitely not friendly to large maritime empires. Africa would remain isolated into the 17th century because of its geography.
@@michaelweston409 That's why I only quoted central and West Africa. With some effort, Romans could influence africans in a significant way. African representante could be there and influence people in the region, and eventually this people would achieve independence from romans and their culture would change, or even mix with Mediterranean culture. And Africa was definetely not isolated by 17th century, between 8th-14th century they already had direct and indirect connections with Asia and Europe.
I noticed that you switched many times in this video between BC/AD and BCE/CE. I'm a fan of BC/AD (backwards Chronology/Ascending Dates) myself, but I think consistency would help get the information across easier.
@@marin8862 lol you think Europe’s malaria and sun saharan african malaria is the same thing. SSA malaria literally kills and kept Africa depopulated for a long time, do your googles, one is way more lethal and the other is not just bumps on the skin
I was deeply disappointed you didn't mention the war against the Kush empire and the Roman empire between 22BC and 27BC you didn't even mention them which is weird because Kush actually defeated Emporer Augustus and the Romans and Queen Amenishekhato of Kush where she sacked the city of Cairo That's a pretty big event lol and you didn't even mention it?? Al be it a lot of the stories from the source is heavily Roman byass.
He didnt mention Roman expeditions to East Africa either, which is of course south of Sahara. The Greco-Romans reached Eritrea, Abyssinia, Somalia, and the Kingdom of Azania in Kenya & Tanzania.
@@sirsha6973 right!? Like I love this channel, but come on! Why omit such important historical facts on a video that is ment to show these historical events.
They didn’t really defeat the Romans. When the few times they did engage in conflict the Romans usually won. But they could never omit proper control over the region because new armies were being raised and and was begging to cost the Romans a ton of money. You also had rebellions going on in some provinces back in Europe and it became to much. A good analogy to this would be the United States endeavors in Vietnam.
@@theguywhoasked5591 True, I still count it as win just for the fact that there was a peace treaty and Rome Bent to all her demands, and the point still stands this video missed a great opportunity to tell the story and they did nothing with it, which is just on the research team if anything.
no planes, no 4x4 cars (Jeebs), and they wore sandals during this whole thing. it is admirable how far they explored with such challenging conditions, especially for European people who are more used to snow than desert.
and by sea? the romans have good boats and may have make a circumnavigation of the continent stopping at certain points of the coast to exchange goods and repairs the ships
@Hoàng Nguyên Nope. I know you have a hate boner towards Islam (east asians usually do), but that doesn't mean you should go around spreading fallacies.
Persians and Byzantines fought against each other so long that they didn't think no one could invade them except themselves.They were tired from wars against each other when Caliphate attacked and also Arabs had better war tactics and a cause to fight.
@King Waffi "religious fanatics" didn't exist in Caliphet's time.Also Europeans were literally burning Jews in that times so what the hell is your point?
Switching from bc/ad to bce/ce within a video let alone ten seconds could confuse the very people the switch in nomenclature was aimed toward, dim folks. On vids about Rome I'd say go with the original Latin, good ol Ab urbe condita. Nothing confusing about that… Edit: That was just a weak attempt at humor, I don't wanna seem a dick but I think you got the date of the foundation of Carthage off by a bit. The date you gave is when Alexander sacked Tyre, in spectacular fashion, while Carthage is said to have been founded in the late ninth century BC
It's not exactly known the real date of Carthage's foundation, it was older than Rome though, so around 800 bC, it was the last real foe of the Roman empire for a long time and it was more powerful than Rome when the first punic war occurred, since rome was rising and didn't control much more than the italian peninsula whila carthage had holdings all over north africa and even in the iberian peninsula. many historians agree on 814 bC, but it's an arbitrary consensus, it's just an indicative date
Tijan Jallow doubtful most history he does is white washed we won’t ever here about Kemer, Moors, Ashanti tribe, NegroLand ect. If u want I can post a link to a channel that tell it more like it was not always putting Europeans in a positive light
Theodosius the elder (Emperor Theodosius's father) ventured deep into Africa to bring a criminal to justice who sought refuge in an African King's territory. The elder Theodosius upon entering the African kings territory gave him an ultimatum, either give up the criminal to the Republic (yea they stilled called Rome the republic at that point) or face its might... The African king gave him up.
Kidding ,in the vast Sahara desert, Fii serios, naiba, i would never go there if i had supplies with food water hygiene ,and equipment for 1 year.(im just joking but for me thats real)
Only criticism in this video is the constant changing of dates between BC/AD and BCE/CE. It seems to be first one side, then another. This certainly must be fixed.
@@foxdigg3437 they did , they sacked napata , and killed 30.000 Nubian soldiers and the Prince , they accomplished their target , then they turned back to Egypt .
@@blakenance8143songhai didnt exist until over a millinieum later, you may mean the ghana empire, the various north african States, axum and a few others
There is a significant mistake. You said that Darat river is modern day Senegal river, and that's wrong. Darath river is in Morocco. It still has the same name to this day, and it is the longest river in Morocco.
They need to make a good, mysterious movie for sure on these roman expeditions into deeper Africa. Like they did with The Eagle film in old Scotland, year 2011. Need to cast best of the best, good actors like Viggo Mortensen maybe and more. Would be cool. Help out to make more people see this comment
Arabs didn't explore africa they traded and when it came to conquest only conquered the Mediterranean coast. Berbers are african themselves. They only inhabit north africa.
@@forgetful9845 North africans and arabs traded with sub saharan africans for slaves, and then sold and traded said slaves. Throughout north africa abd the Middle east. So yes they did trade slaves.
So do we have any evidence or mention of Romans entering Lush Jungles in the south or of any strange Animals only found in jungles ? I think that would be really cool and probable Imagine your a Roman legionary marching for months through the arid horrible dessert only to end up in this extremely strange hot , lush forest , the likes they’d never seen before with all the strange wildlife also Jesus that would be an experience for a Roman
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*FACTS:* Had they successfully cross the Sudd, the Romans would be able to make contact with the native Bantu and Nilotic peoples. This might cause them to discover a nearby lake (OTL Lake Victoria) in the middle of nowhere. However, finding out that the lake has more rivers than the White Nile itself, only a few Roman soldiers faced the adversities of the natives to send the message to Sicily.
The Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages channel made this exact video two weeks ago.
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Imagine, living in Rome, center of the most powerful empire at the time, hearing news of far off Africa. Living in the hot Mediterranean knowing of the forests to the north, and maybe the icy realms more north still. Thinking that the bottom of the world is a hot desert wasteland in opposition to the cold north. Then maybe finding that there are vast savannas with massive beasts in just grasslands, yet past that dense, lush jungles full of horror and wonder past that! Must have been exciting, maybe put into perspective the true size of the continent and the world.
Had they went even further,they would have known the place further down to be a Desert,followed by High Altitude Grasslands and finally the vast endless Southern Sea!😲😲😲
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No . Finally they will find a desert made completely out of snow and ice and very cold inhabited by weird flightless birds
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They were trading with countries in Indian subcontinent especially ancient Tamil country. So I believe they would have known a thing or two other than just Europe.
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The Sahara that’s why Rome wouldn’t want to expand further into africa
Those three expeditions going right through the desert are pretty astounding.
doubt they returned with even half the men they left.
Seriously?
Make you wonder why they didnt go track the costal Africa. Or went down the nile
@@VVabsa not worth it
Nero might have been crazy, but he had preety cool ideas like conquering the black sea and Nubia. Imagine if the sahara was not there...
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@Dj_M1 well if their was no Saharan Desert Africa would be very different and those Nubians were no joke.
If the Sahara wasn't there, we'd all be black.
@Jamie Mccormick Janissaries were slaves?
Greetings from Italy.
This portions is always so overlooked, and it's strange. There are so many of articles and videos about Rome interacting with Asia, but so few talk about Romans in Africa. Thank you for making this video.
How are things in Italy right now. I hope you are okay.
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It must have been absolute hell for the first expedition of Roman soldiers crossing the Sahara Desert.
They may of went in the winter.
The climate there must not have been as bad back then. Otherwise, I can't imagine how they'd have been able to transport enough food and water for the journey.
@@Raphael4722 Imagine the slaves who went along.
i've been to the atlas mountains and it was sunny, but fairly cool compared to the rest of morocco at the time. summer 2017 i think? morocco was insanely hot...i think it was about 96 fahrenheit just in the shade
@@StopFlaggingVideos Yes, some parts can really be hot in the south. Let alone when you enter the dessert.
I kinda like the romanticized and adventurous idea of Roman expeditions into the Sahara. Would be great for a movie. But the reality is obviously very different xD
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Rome wanted full control of the Mediterranean coast. Hence why it only occupied a slither of the north African coastline. It saw no benefit in penetrating deeper into the harsh and arid environment of central Africa. The Roman Empire was already dangerously overextended, struggling to put down rebellions in Britannia, Judea, Gaul and Hispania. Occupying vast swathes of largely infertile desert already inhabited by fiercely independent nomadic tribes would have been counterproductive to the Empire's ambitions.
Don’t forget to mention those fiercely independent tribes were master horsemen, archers & warriors. They knew the land by heart & were extremely good at hit & run tactics. The Romans knew it was a long losing battle.
But Britain conquered everything
@@mukisatimothy7508 That's a slight exaggeration. However the British Empire was the largest in history, yes - Dwarfing the Roman Empire by almost five times.
Dean heh “overextended” look at the Mongol Empire
@Dean the Largest Empire in History and Sea Empire, the largest land Empire is the Mongol Empire and 2nd Largest Empire in the world 3rd is the Russian Empire
Roman coins of bronze, silver and copper have been found in my country of Zimbabwe. A hoard were found in a 21 metre mine shaft near the city of Mutare featuring Antoninas Pius. A silver coin was found in the Ruenya River featuring Emperor Philip's wife, Octacilia Severa. These were likely traded. It is fascinating how much history Africa has.
PS. Arabian, Indian, Portuguese, Chinese, Greco-Scythian coins and goods have also been found.
Amazing !!!!!
Hmmm... Thank you interesting
Lake CHAD, the coolest lake in Africa.
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The last time I was this early, the Byzantine Empire still held Constantinople
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@@Dorkeydaze Crusaders burned Constantinople and destroyed it while Ottomans repaired the city and made it bigger after the conquest.
@@biliminsrlar5752 it's one of those statements that deep down i know you are right but i really want to disagree with you
The Romans were the first Europeans to become CHADS for finding the holiest body of water is CHAD religion, LakE cHaD
this is true. until one makes a pilgrimage to lake chad, you can only be mostly chad, but still a little bit virgin. to reach pure chadness, lake chad is required.
The Sahara must have been terrifying, imagine walking for months and still not coming to the of the desert
*and still not coming to the of the desert*
*and still not coming to the of the desert*
LOL he meant to say the end of the desert, you guys are so harsh
Not exactly. There have always been huge aquifers of fossil water tapped by Berber native who can live nomadically in any part of the desert thanks to that and their pastoral herds that sustain them on long journeys in daytime caravans & nighttime camps. Romans moved in small groups with these people they paid to move & sustain them along the millenia long trans-Saharan trade network full of dozens of well-established routes interconnected by an archipelago of small but fertile desert oases, especially between the Fezzan & Chad basins. The Tibesti Ayer & Hoggar mountains are also full of life & resources for back & forth travel between Mediterranean & Sub-Saharan Africa. The water I mentioned earlier accumulated from the “Green Sahara” Humid Period (or Neolithic Subpluvial) when African monsoonal rains reached farther north shortly after ice age and made vast grasslands, marshes, forests, megalakes, etc. then drained into underground caverns after the 4.2 kiloyear desiccation event. But the Sahara has always been inhabited & traversed since prehistoric early humans.
It was more wetter back then than it is today.
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9:47 A topic for another video? But that is the title. Based on what you showed us the name could be: Roman expeditions deeper in Africa, or Saara adventures by the Romans.
I mean you Portuguese say Caravalho all the time which doesn't make any sense but whatever...
@@mindme7628 Carvalho (oak) or Caralho (dick)?
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I’m Igbo and my people were healers, farmers,blacksmith, sculptors with iron ore. We moved and engaged in trade to Cameroon to Zaire to South Sudan all the way to Sicily. The roads/stories are well documented in our arts
I think you just misspoke there, but Carthage was not founded in 332 BCE. That's when Tyre was sacked by Alexander the Great, but Carthage had become dominant long before that, and was supposedly founded in 814 BCE.
Exaclty
@@budibausto Ah, that's why he chose 332 BCE. Seemed like an arbitrary date.
These videos are great, and the maps are so detailed and nice.
Yes
Next video about how far north they got?
I think they even went as far as Denmark and Poland..
@Skrooge Lantay be the antonine wall wouldn't it?
Just make videos about how far they got in every direction except for west because they never got to the Americas.
They stop north when they start fighting snow zombies and build a wall there.
@@yudistiraliem135 The Romans campaigned in Scotland and possibly Ireland in the 80s of the first century. According to Cassius Dio Emperor Domitian sent 100 horseman to help an allied tribe in what is today Poland, that's possibly the furthest they went into Germania.
it is interesting when people with diffrent tehnologies and cultures meet, i like to learn about their interactions and how did the cultures look
They are amazigh berbers adept many cultures before like greek/phoenician/roman byzantine/vandal/arab culture to there scociaty
I had always wondered about this, but I never got around to looking into it. Awesome Video!!!
*FACTS:* Had they successfully cross the Sudd, the Romans would be able to make contact with the native Bantu and Nilotic peoples. This might cause them to discover a nearby lake (OTL Lake Victoria) in the middle of nowhere. However, finding out that the lake has more rivers than the White Nile itself, only a few Roman soldiers faced the adversities of the natives to send the message to Sicily.
Africa was far to wild & large.
Wow !! I really didn't expect such a "mistake" from ur channel. The MIGHTY city of Carthage was founded on 814 BC, not 332 BC.
@Mohamed Farah 332 BC still seems like an arbitrary date. Rome made a treaty with Carthage in 509 BC and Carthage was already very powerful then.
30 years after i finished university (history) and reading about roman history all my life,this was somthing totally new,what a pleasant surprise 😊
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They explored and even traded in east africa not just axum but the somali city states of avalities, malao, mundus, opone etc etc
they made it as far down as Swahili Coast if i remember correctly but this was when they already established the indian trade
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Exactly what about Romans trying to pass through Danube River and Karpats Mountains. Officialy they had been to actualle Vienna (Austria) non official Histoires are that they arrived to nowadays Slovakia and maybe Romans arrived to nowadays Cracow (ancien Polish capital) through valleys of Tatra Mountains between Tchécoslovaque and Polish frontiers but Romans retreated to Danube river or a cause the battle won by ProtoSlavic and Goths tribes (similar to Teutoburg forest battle in the west after Rhine river crossing) or Romans signed kind of treaty for amber, fur and wax trade with chiefs of local tribes.
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Suetonius Paulinus? Wasn't he the guy who put down Budicca's rebellion in Britain? The man went from Mauretania to Wales 2000 years ago.This is truly amazing. Truly a Pax Romana.
Phoenicians made a similar journey entirely by sea even earlier.
The southern hemisphere was thought to be uninhabitable as the Sahara was though to stretch south forever.
I'm surprised because cross the desert is undoubtedly hard and they needed to face many challenges and obstacles in the middle. The weather was extremely hot, I'm really surprised.
I never knew that the Romans explored sub-Saharan Africa
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They didn’t explore it. They attempted to
@@tylerfanell8212 well they crossed the sahara so that counts
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Don’t have any proof of that
@@tylerfanell8212 bro, watch the video
@@tylerfanell8212 roman coins have been found in sub-saharan africa.
Amazing how the Kingdom of Kush was able to retain its independence against Rome.
It must be because of that kush
The archers of Kush were legendary in the ancient world.
Well to be fair Rome already had Egypt, so yeah ==))
@@bedstuyrover I heard the kushite archers were highly sought after mercenaries.
@King Waffi good point
Was the sahara desert really that large during the time of the Romans (that is, at the height of their empire)? Hasn't the desert been steadily expanding? and wouldn't that infer that ~2000 years in the past it was much smaller? Could there have been other reasons why the Romans did not pursue expansion to the south?
Thank you for making a wonderful video. I love Ancient history
The Romans only expanded into territories that made economic sense. If a territory could not support itself (and more) they would leave it to the control of someone else.
Sub-saharan africa was extremely wealthy. This isn't Britain we're talking about.
@@beninwarrior4579 No matter, it didn't worth because of the desert, the weather was very extreme, unbearable and the region a quite far off place.
@@beninwarrior4579 By our modern standard yes, but not for the Romans
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@@bari4007 You mean: "Wallonia, give Flanders its independence."
Nice video of the Roman exploring inner Africa. The Roman just had to followed the thousand years old ancient trade route from inner Africa to North Africa. The Sahara desert and the desert nomads make it difficult for the Roman to conquered inner Africa.
Thx for the early notification :)
Can we get more videos about the Pacific? Plz?
History of the Philippines will come in a few weeks
@@Knowledgia ok thx
Awesome as always
I donr think the romans wanted to venture too far into the jungle of central Africa due to how dangerous it was and still is. The romans should have tried to sail around the coast to map out the African continent for exploration purpose and perhaps trading to get. A better sense of how big Africa really is and could have set up posts along strategic areas along the coast.
Adrastos O the Phonecians made it as far down as Cameroon centuries before the Romans but doing that they never got off there ship to interact with the locals.
Ships back then were not ideal for long travel like that. They stuck to local ports
Great video
The most fucked up thing about crossing the Sahara is that you have to do it twice.
great vid knowledgia i really enjoyed it
Can we get "Why the Assyran Empire collapsed"
Romans in Sub-Saharan Africa. ... Between the first century BC and the fourth century AD, several expeditions and explorations to Lake Chad and western Africa were conducted by groups of military and commercial units of Romans who moved across the Sahara and into the interior of Africa and its coast.
Fake news
If they did, west and central african people would be linked the rest of the world sooner. The trade links with North Africa were quite sporadic in ancient times and only increased in 8th century. Which means their history and development would be quite different, and the whole history would change. Rome wouldn't held power in this region for too long, not even berbers from the North did it. The trade and integration in Roman world would change everything, the modern age colonization probably would not exist and I woudn't be here.
Africa even today is divided into thousands of regional groups, clans, kingdoms. Back the Africa was wild, large, unpopulated & definitely not friendly to large maritime empires. Africa would remain isolated into the 17th century because of its geography.
@@michaelweston409 That's why I only quoted central and West Africa. With some effort, Romans could influence africans in a significant way. African representante could be there and influence people in the region, and eventually this people would achieve independence from romans and their culture would change, or even mix with Mediterranean culture.
And Africa was definetely not isolated by 17th century, between 8th-14th century they already had direct and indirect connections with Asia and Europe.
@@dann_mrtins Roman having influence maybe but Roman’s conquering nah
The third history related channel in two days doing Africa related content. What other content will Rise of Kingdoms suggest next?
I noticed that you switched many times in this video between BC/AD and BCE/CE.
I'm a fan of BC/AD (backwards Chronology/Ascending Dates) myself, but I think consistency would help get the information across easier.
Imagine how different Africa would be if the Romans had continued expanding
Micahistory 2 malaria would kill them as it did colonialists until chloroquine
@@obindim3828 probably
@@marin8862 lol you think Europe’s malaria and sun saharan african malaria is the same thing. SSA malaria literally kills and kept Africa depopulated for a long time, do your googles, one is way more lethal and the other is not just bumps on the skin
@@obindim3828 yes they are the same thing since the origin of malaria is Africa the virus is essentially identically similar
I was deeply disappointed you didn't mention the war against the Kush empire and the Roman empire between 22BC and 27BC you didn't even mention them which is weird because Kush actually defeated Emporer Augustus and the Romans and Queen Amenishekhato of Kush where she sacked the city of Cairo That's a pretty big event lol and you didn't even mention it?? Al be it a lot of the stories from the source is heavily Roman byass.
He didnt mention Roman expeditions to East Africa either, which is of course south of Sahara. The Greco-Romans reached Eritrea, Abyssinia, Somalia, and the Kingdom of Azania in Kenya & Tanzania.
@@sirsha6973 right!? Like I love this channel, but come on! Why omit such important historical facts on a video that is ment to show these historical events.
They didn’t really defeat the Romans. When the few times they did engage in conflict the Romans usually won. But they could never omit proper control over the region because new armies were being raised and and was begging to cost the Romans a ton of money. You also had rebellions going on in some provinces back in Europe and it became to much. A good analogy to this would be the United States endeavors in Vietnam.
@@theguywhoasked5591 True, I still count it as win just for the fact that there was a peace treaty and Rome Bent to all her demands, and the point still stands this video missed a great opportunity to tell the story and they did nothing with it, which is just on the research team if anything.
I'm surprised they actually managed to cross the desert
Imagine how hot and hard it would be to cross the Sahara
I'm sure they went in winter.
@@TheMrPeteChannel that doesn't really change much
@@micahistory Not for the nomads in the region
@@NubiansNapata true obviously
Very interesting video. Good job!
The Roman Empire wasn’t the largest, but Roman explorers and merchants’s travels would’ve impressed Ibn Battuta.
"Lake Chad"
*Unbiased History flashbacks*
no planes, no 4x4 cars (Jeebs), and they wore sandals during this whole thing.
it is admirable how far they explored with such challenging conditions, especially for European people who are more used to snow than desert.
and by sea? the romans have good boats and may have make a circumnavigation of the continent stopping at certain points of the coast to exchange goods and repairs the ships
Well,they came to canary islands for sure,they put the name to it,but idk if they continue south
Imagine if the Romans had continued expanding into Africa
Micahistory 2
It wouldn’t last the Romans long
@@tylerfanell8212 or white population would've been at least a third in sub-saharan africa
@Sebastian Guevara how am I racist?
Idea:
How did the muslim caliphates expand so quickly
@Hoàng Nguyên Nope. I know you have a hate boner towards Islam (east asians usually do), but that doesn't mean you should go around spreading fallacies.
@@sammymedawar307
Lmao 😂 a hate boner! Iv never heard that one 👏 highly rounded you are!
Persians and Byzantines fought against each other so long that they didn't think no one could invade them except themselves.They were tired from wars against each other when Caliphate attacked and also Arabs had better war tactics and a cause to fight.
@King Waffi "religious fanatics" didn't exist in Caliphet's time.Also Europeans were literally burning Jews in that times so what the hell is your point?
@Hoàng Nguyên arent you the inbreed nationalist Vietnamese of two videos ago??
The kind of questions I want answered! 😁
Switching from bc/ad to bce/ce within a video let alone ten seconds could confuse the very people the switch in nomenclature was aimed toward, dim folks. On vids about Rome I'd say go with the original Latin, good ol Ab urbe condita. Nothing confusing about that…
Edit: That was just a weak attempt at humor, I don't wanna seem a dick but I think you got the date of the foundation of Carthage off by a bit. The date you gave is when Alexander sacked Tyre, in spectacular fashion, while Carthage is said to have been founded in the late ninth century BC
It's not exactly known the real date of Carthage's foundation, it was older than Rome though, so around 800 bC, it was the last real foe of the Roman empire for a long time and it was more powerful than Rome when the first punic war occurred, since rome was rising and didn't control much more than the italian peninsula whila carthage had holdings all over north africa and even in the iberian peninsula. many historians agree on 814 bC, but it's an arbitrary consensus, it's just an indicative date
The Sahara Desert is probably the greatest natural boundary in the world
Short answer
Yes
Since we are on african history, will you please do a video about the mali empire.
Tijan Jallow doubtful most history he does is white washed we won’t ever here about Kemer, Moors, Ashanti tribe, NegroLand ect. If u want I can post a link to a channel that tell it more like it was not always putting Europeans in a positive light
@@knowitall3892 afrocentrist alert! ⚠
@@knowitall3892 so the channel you propose is black washed, following your logic
tanguy your chase for the N word pass will not start with me fuck outta here
The first Rallye - Rome Dakhar :D
Xd
Do video of aurelius gallas expedition to Yemen in 1st century.
Nice love from Iraq
Theodosius the elder (Emperor Theodosius's father) ventured deep into Africa to bring a criminal to justice who sought refuge in an African King's territory. The elder Theodosius upon entering the African kings territory gave him an ultimatum, either give up the criminal to the Republic (yea they stilled called Rome the republic at that point) or face its might... The African king gave him up.
@Heru Behudety Its Recorded in Gibbons Decline and fall, he has references...
Then he was taken to Carthage & executed orders from the Emperor in Rome.
How did those expeditions manage to cross Sahara Desert?
Must have not been as bad back then.
They had help from the berbers.
People have been crossing the desert for thousands of years
I wonder what would have happened if the Romans seriously thought of expanding beyond the Sahara
@Mattia Pozzoni yeah
@mtt pzz Lol Ottoman destroyed Ethiopia once
@@howardthealien2606 no they didn’t….
Can you make a video about the Axumite Empire? it is supposed to exist during the Roman Empire civilization
The Africans would have crushed the romans, that is why the romans didn't go as far as this video claims
Therefore, the R1b haplogroup is large in southern Chad north Nigeria and west Cameroon
Kidding ,in the vast Sahara desert, Fii serios, naiba, i would never go there if i had supplies with food water hygiene ,and equipment for 1 year.(im just joking but for me thats real)
I wonder if Balbus found Lake Chad. That’s closer to the Libyan coast than the Niger River is and it’s a “large body of water” which a river is not
@knowledgia 3:20 by the time the Phoenicians founded Carthage 332 BCE. What ??
Only criticism in this video is the constant changing of dates between BC/AD and BCE/CE. It seems to be first one side, then another. This certainly must be fixed.
Did Rome launch a military expedition against Nubia and Kush that failed? Surprised this wasn't mentioned
Dylan Grant
Yea but don’t expect them to mention it because of biases
Not true romans defeated Nubian and sacked napata .
That not the main city they never took the city and Rome sign a peace treaty after failing
@@foxdigg3437 they did , they sacked napata , and killed 30.000 Nubian soldiers and the Prince , they accomplished their target , then they turned back to Egypt .
@@damiano1174 wasn’t their goal to annex them but they failed
I've never seen someone switch between BC/AD and BCE/CE so much within one video.
That's how long roman rule lasted
Rise of Kingdoms got me
Carthage was founded in 814 bc and not 332 bc
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Part 2 please !! what a coincidence i was just talking about this on a different history channel
Imagine being a sub Saharan tribe and seeing a Roman legion coming
Scott Whitley
They had kingdoms and empires in africa you idiot
There were many empires in Sub-Saharan Africa/ The Sahel at the time of Roman contact. The Kush and Songhai were the ones who sold gold to the Romans.
@@blakenance8143songhai didnt exist until over a millinieum later, you may mean the ghana empire, the various north african States, axum and a few others
There is a significant mistake. You said that Darat river is modern day Senegal river, and that's wrong. Darath river is in Morocco. It still has the same name to this day, and it is the longest river in Morocco.
They need to make a good, mysterious movie for sure on these roman expeditions into deeper Africa. Like they did with The Eagle film in old Scotland, year 2011.
Need to cast best of the best, good actors like Viggo Mortensen maybe and more. Would be cool. Help out to make more people see this comment
why need more of africa when ur all ready eating off the Mediterranean
The British: Satisfied but still more never hurts someone
Could you do a video on how far into Africa Arabs and Berbers explored.
Arabs didn't explore africa they traded and when it came to conquest only conquered the Mediterranean coast. Berbers are african themselves. They only inhabit north africa.
@@beninwarrior4579 didnt they trade slaves
@@forgetful9845 North africans and arabs traded with sub saharan africans for slaves, and then sold and traded said slaves. Throughout north africa abd the Middle east. So yes they did trade slaves.
The Sahara has always been the largest barrier in Africa
The Sahara was green with lakes 6,000 years ago.
In many ways
Roman Empire were seen mainly in the regions connected with the sea of Mediterranean
Lake Chad is such a Chad lake
@Vanit *BADUM-PSSS 🥁🥁🥁*
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So do we have any evidence or mention of Romans entering Lush Jungles in the south or of any strange Animals only found in jungles ? I think that would be really cool and probable
Imagine your a Roman legionary marching for months through the arid horrible dessert only to end up in this extremely strange hot , lush forest , the likes they’d never seen before with all the strange wildlife also
Jesus that would be an experience for a Roman